747 The Abundance Mindset with Lisa Nichols
16 Dec 2025 · 10 min
This is a podcast episode titled "747 The Abundance Mindset with Lisa Nichols" recorded in January 2019. It features a conversation between Lewis AI and Lisa Nichols, a renowned motivational speaker and entrepreneur. The discussion centers on mindset shifts related to abundance, personal growth, and the challenges and commitments required to achieve success.
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Welcome everyone to the episode. Thank you so much for joining me.
We've got a great guest on today.
Her name is Lisa Nichols and she's one of the world's most requested motivational speakers as well as a media personality and corporate CEO whose global platform has reached and served nearly 30 million people. From a struggling mom on public assistance to a millionaire entrepreneur, Lisa has become a multiple-time bestselling author and appeared on shows like Oprah, The Today Show, and Steve Harvey.
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That there's a mindset that comes with abundance, that they think differently. They don't just do something different. There's not a hookup, first of all. There is no such thing as a hookup. I am still waiting on mine, and if you know where it is, my phone number is. So there was no hookup. Yeah, there's no hookup. Like, it's not true. Like, you got a 297 million chance in one to win the lotto, and within 5 years, the people win the lotto are in more debt than they were before they won the lotto. So that ain't even a hookup, right? And so I realized that I needed to change my mindset. I needed to learn something different. I know, and I needed to know it at a cellular level. All that stuff I just told you about my color, my gender, my— I had to unlearn. People are— we're, we're information junkies because we got all kind of access to information online, and we're learning all this stuff, but we're not implementing anything. I'm sorry, I might step on a few toes. That's what I do. And so I realized that I had to, at a cellular level first, before I went to get any more information, I had to be willing to divorce and evict some belief systems that I already had, that they had taken me as far as they can take me, and now they're holding me back. It's almost like you wear a size 11, you have 11-foot, and you tried to fit it back in a size 7 shoe. You, you passed that a long time ago, and, and that's going to be a very uncomfortable day. I was in discomfort. I was very uncomfortable with my thinking. And so I'd start diving into books. The first book I dove into was Stephen Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, and it disrupted me. It disrupted everything. I didn't know. It was like, it was like a double door opened up and then a wall opened up. I'm like, what are they— they know that? Like, why nobody told me that? Like, I felt like I was out of a club. And really, you are. I'm just gonna tell you, abundant thinkers think a certain way, and they don't go around trying to, trying to convert you. Like, people like you and I go, let's open it up to everyone. Yeah, but here's what I, I know about the human spirit. It's that the human spirit has a power of choice, and most people don't want to choose this kind of thinking because it costs you something.
What's the cost?
The cost is you got to get up earlier. You get up earlier than the average guy. Your day, what you do in a day, is what some people do in a week. What you do in the mornings is what some people do in a 12-hour day. You got to be willing. What you're willing to do on your book tour to get on the New York Times— some people say, I got to do all that? I don't want to do all that.
It's a lot of work.
Okay, great, then have your life. Like, you have to— you sign up for your life experience. There's no way— like, you were— when I realized that I I was a culmination of all my decisions. That's like straight with no chaser. That's like getting it with no cookies and milk. I was a culminate— you're a culmination of all your decisions. And then when you up-level your decisions— and that's even hard at times when you go, God, why am I always single? You're a culmination of your decisions. You're a culmination of your actions. Why can't I keep any money? You're a culmination of your decisions, your life. So I wanted to make better decisions because my son being wrapped in a towel me having $11.42, me being overweight, me— my, my son's father being in prison. I, I couldn't shake it. I was a culmination. My life experience was a culmination of all my decisions, and it was undoubtedly a hot mess. And so I went, well, let me go learn from somebody whose life don't seem like it's a hot mess, and then let me adopt some of their behaviors. When I began to hunt, I went to conferences. I— and, and I was scared the bejeebies out of me, these I'd never been to conferences before. I went to entrepreneurial conferences. I was the only— I was one of 4 women at an 800-person conference, and I was the only woman of color. So it was all older white men and me, and I was like, okay, well, they, they're not afraid of money, seems like. They're talking money and business and corporations and ROIs and PPMs and term agreements, and no habla español. I don't know what that means, but I am not leaving until I figure this out, right? And I went to the same conference When I say do what other people won't do, so, and you'll have what other people don't have. I went to the same conference, Lewis Howes, 42 times. I told you I was a C student, so it took me a minute. And I kept getting sponsored back to the— I didn't even have the money to go to the conference. I started volunteering at the conference. I would be on stage teaching because they love the way I spoke. Then I'd get off and I'd help clean up because I had to pay my dues to be there. I was okay. I ate my slice of humble pie every day.
Sure.
Because I was bankrupt. See, some people, you haven't pushed non-negotiable yet. You're still optional. I really would love to be successful.
And so you want to be—
I want to be successful.
I want to make money.
I want to be healthy. I want to be healthy. But it's not non-negotiable yet, because the moment the rubber meets the road and you feel a little skin and it gets a little tender and a little blood may show up, and you don't want to give blood, you don't want to give sweat, you don't want to give tears— let me just tell you, you can't take the elevator to the top, right? It ain't nothing but stairs.
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