How To Think Like A Champion & Destroy Your Limits With Your Mindset

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the School of Greatness. Today we have a very special collection of episodes. And one of the biggest things people struggle with today in life is mindset. It's understanding their own mindset and how to go from a weak mindset that keeps people struggling in their career, their life, their relationships, into a strong, powerful, foundational mindset that allows you to overcome the obstacles that are thrown your way. And a great famous quote is that everyone's got a plan until you get punched in the face. That is from the iconic Mike Tyson, who. We have an amazing excerpt from one of our interviews on the School of Greatness with Mike Tyson in this episode. But in this interview series, we've got three powerful boxing experts and also business leaders. First, we have Canelo. Canelo is arguably one of the greatest boxers of all time, specifically in this generation. I had the opportunity of interviewing him while he was preparing for a fight. And we talk about how he's learned to develop a mindset, a sustaining mindset of success for so many years. He's been in the game for a long time. And we go over really a little bit about his mindset. And also we ask him a big question. Who do you think would beat you in the boxing ring? Mike Tyson or Jake Paul? And his answer and response was pretty interesting. I'm excited for you to see what he says based on that question. And a big thing happening with both of those individuals fighting each other. Then we hear a clip from Jake Paul, who we had on seven years ago, before he got into boxing, before he became one of the most popular people on the Internet, but also one of the most hated people on the Internet. He was a Disney star. He left high school, he came to Los Angeles. I met him in those early years when he came to la and I got to know him behind the scenes. I got to see a little bit about who he was, his character, his heart, his mindset. We played pickup basketball together. I went to his house when he had a whole house of creators that he was living with. I got to see him before all this stuff happened. I got to watch him practice boxing in the early days and I watched his evolution over many years. We talk about the mindset he had and really how he went from a high school kid making content to building a network of influencers and creating expansive content to how he's learned how to persevere over challenges, developing self belief in himself and overcoming all the different things that he had to do now. Love him or hate him, it's hard to deny what he's created for himself. And he's constantly reinventing himself. And he talked about this idea of how can I continue to innovate and have continuous improvement on my content creation. That's what he talked about in part of this interview. And you see that through his evolution, how he spoke it into existence and, and then he went and created it and is creating it now. It's pretty powerful to watch what he's created. Whether you love him or hate him, it's interesting to see what he's created, his creativity, his dedication, and how he's taken his boxing career this seriously. He also talked about how he believes that by helping others, you eventually set up yourself for rewards down the line. So just note that when you're listening to the segment with Jake Paul and he also talks about his mindset and how it's at the center of everything he does. Then we do a clip from an interview that I did on the school of greatness with the iconic Mike Tyson. Mike shared some powerful insights about the mindset required to be a true champion. And here's a kid who struggled immensely as a young adult who had huge success in fame and and then it all came crashing down, who's had to reinvent himself over and over. And he talks about the mindset of a champion in this segment as well. Powerful stuff. 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I'm curious, who do you think would be a harder fight for you right now? Mike Tyson or Jake Paul? In a hypothetical scenario, who do you think would be tougher for you?

I think if you put them together in the ring with me, maybe it's.

Gonna, maybe both together.

Maybe it's gonna be a little complicated.

But one or the other, they're about the same. You think they're the same? You think for you, who do you think would. Would win between them?

It's hard to say, but, you know, it's, it's risky for Mike Tyson.

Really? Why?

Yeah, because he's 57 and 58. I don't know. And, and it's. Boxing is. No, it's not a joke.

It's not just, it's.

But, you know, I know. I get it. I get, I get, I get it. What they. Why they do business. It's a business.

Yeah, yeah.

They're gonna fight with 18 ounces with not bigger clubs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a business. You, speaking of business, you've been getting into business more and more over the years, which I'm excited to talk about as well. Real estate, your own businesses, Canela Energy, you know, all these different brands that you're building. What excites you the most about business and entrepreneurship? And is it, and is it a distraction to do all that as well as fight ever?

No, no, no, no. It's a distraction because I have my correct people doing my team everything, and I do what I need to do for my business and I care about every business I have, but I like it. I enjoy doing real estate. I enjoy being my drinks and everything I do, I really enjoy it.

What is your vision for your organizations?

Everything.

You got a lot going on. What is your vision for your future after boxing? Is it to be a business leader in the world or what is the main vision that you have for business?

Yeah, that's my goal is being one of the best businessmen in the world.

Really?

Yeah.

Why does that excite you so much after boxing?

I, I just, I, I like, I, I, I love to be involved in these kind of things and, and, and, and see how they go big and big and big and big, you know, starting with, with some and then grow up. I like it so much because when I was young, I saw my brother, he put ice cream store with $5,000 and, and we built in five, six months, like bring people being people being people and then he sell it for 30, $40,000. So. And I saw him and I, I just start learning, start learning and, and I really enjoy that kind of things.

Well, that's beautiful, man. Is there a difference between how you trained early on when you were a nobody, the first few years in your teens versus how you train now mentally, physically? Is there a difference? If so, what is that difference?

Mentally is I think is the same mentality, the same hungry. You know, is for me is I train my mentor, my, my mind is always try to get more, try to get more history to my career and, and I never, it's never enough for me.

Really.

It's never enough for me. I always train so hard because you know, I, I started like that training so hard because in my mind always when I was kid, I say I want to be a champion. And then I realized I, I accomplished that champion. And I say is something else more. Is something else there? So I always, my mind is always is never enough for my mind.

Right.

I always train so hard and I, and I love boxing so much. I enjoy it, I enjoy it. I still enjoy it.

You still enjoy it. But it's almost been 20 years, right? 20 years.

19 professional.

19 professional. What is the three greatest lessons that boxing has taught you in almost 20 years of boxing?

It's gonna be very difficult to pick three lessons because I think the man I am right now, I learned from, from boxing because my whole life, I, I give my whole life to, to boxing. I think boxing teach me everything. Everything bad and good and, and everything I think, I think boxing made me.

Made you? Yeah. What is the, what is the lesson that you would, you would say to your younger self with all the wisdom and experience you have now?

The only thing I can say to them, like If I you're 15 in front of you, I have my, my, my son and say, you, you, you can do whatever you want. You just, you need to be able to, to have able to. Sacrifices, discipline and hard work.

Yes.

And have a good mentality. Because if you have that three, three, three. Discipline, discipline, sacrifices and hard work. Hard work. But if you don't have that mentality, it's going to be very difficult.

How do you keep the hunger alive inside of you for so long, though? Because you're starting out as a young man wanting to be a champion. You became a champion. But how do you continue year after year to stay hungry and love it so much?

I don't know. I don't know. I always say, because I love what I do and I, I have that passion on me and I love what I do and, and I enjoy it. And I'm that kind of man. Since I'm that kind of person, say, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do a hundred percent.

Yeah.

No, in the middle. No. 90, no, I'm 100%. I always try to do my best and try to do my everything and, and I, I think, because I love what I do.

How do you manage fear? Did you have a lot of fear growing up as you started fighting? And do you have any fear when you fight today?

I never feel fear, really. In boxing, I never feel how it's like to feel the fear. I always enjoy it. I just enjoy a lot. My favorite day, my favorite thing is sparring days and a fight day. I just enjoy it a lot. Yeah, I enjoy it and I never have that experience to, to, to feel the fear or something.

When you became a champion, world champion, did you feel fear to lose that ever?

No.

Really?

No. Never, Never feel that fear.

Why not? Well, did someone teach you how to overcome fear or is it.

I don't know, I, I just, I always say, because I, I really enjoy boxing. I really love boxing. I really love being in the, in the, in the ring fight, thinking about if this happened or. I always go with that mentality to, to win and enjoy.

Do you ever, when you're preparing for a fight, do you ever think about, well, what happens if I get knocked down or if I lose, will I feel bad or.

And I never think about lose. I never think about lose. I always think and train for the win. Yes and yes, I do. I think about if I get knockout, how I'm on a reaction and we train about everything. You'll fall down if I feel dizzy, what I'm going to do. We always train about that. We prepare ourselves for everything, of course. But I never think about losing.

Wow.

What is the process like? The Day of a fight. For you mentally and emotionally, how do you prepare for that fight?

For me, it's a normal day.

Just like me, I grab a cup of coffee, relax, hang out, relax.

Obviously very relaxed. But for me in my mind is, is, it's a normal day really.

But the world is going to watch you on this fight. I know there's so much money on.

The line that, you know, I don't think about that. For me, it's normal. I'm gonna do my thing and that's it. Obviously, I think I, I, I, I put everything together that day. We, we put in the whole training camp. I put, okay, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, we train for this and but for me, it's a normal day. It's like you wake up if you see me in, if you see me in the locker room 20 minutes before the fight, I'm, I'm listen music chilling with my, with my team. So for me it's normal day.

Are you not visualizing the fight?

Yeah, always.

You are.

I always visualize my fight in the night. I know, okay, this happened. I'm gonna do this. Everything.

How much energy does it take from you to visualize? There's a lot of energy to train, to run every day, to spar, to lift, but how much energy to actually think at night about what you're going to do in the ring?

I just think, I don't put so much energy to think because I just, okay, I'm going to do this and this, I train for this and that's it for me. My life routine. Yeah, it's not like I don't.

Do.

This, you know, or to stress myself.

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It's the best feeling.

Yeah.

It's the best feeling because you put your life there. You put everything in the training camp. You left your family, you left everything. For that moment?

Yes.

For that moment. For the win. You prepare yourself for. For the win. And it's the best feeling.

Yes.

Then is when you realize everything, everything you do, everything. The sacrifices, the. The discipline you put in the gym there is the result.

It's worth it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you ever doubt yourself growing up? Like, self doubt, insecurity?

Never in my life.

How did you learn that, though? So many people in the world are insecure about who they are, right? They doubt.

I never doubt about myself.

Was that your parents, your grandmother, or.

I don't know.

Did they teach you how to. I don't know.

My ment is always like, I don't care who is there. I'm. I'm gonna achieve my goals no matter what, so. And I started professional boxing when I was 15 years old. So sometimes my trainer. My trainers saw the opponent and say, hey, he's too strong. And he's. He's 30 years old. And I don't care. I don't. I don't. I. I don't really care. And then two rounds in that, and.

You knock them out. Yeah. Do you have. I mean, do you ever have any insecurities outside of boxing, like starting business or in some other ventures? Are you. No, no. No insecurities.

I think the. The priest time. I jump in the. In the bus and try to sell ice creams, and in the bus, I feel a little. I don't know, insecure or I feel a little ashamed because, you know, I'm. Red hair, freckles and everything, and I. I feel, like, a little ashamed, maybe.

Insecure, but you're like five, six, seven years old.

Yeah, five, six years old. And. And then I say, nothing happened. And then I start. I started feeling good, But I think that moment I feel, like, a little insecure because the people saw me and say something about me. I don't know. But then I realized I don't give a.

So, like. So 25 years ago was the last time you were insecure?

Yeah.

Like being on set and, like, having that experience.

Priceless.

Yeah. It's Priceless. And I. And it was like so beneficial in the long run because you see how the acting classes then apply in real life because you know, you're on set, you're kind of just chilling. Then it's like makeup, wardrobe, hear your lines, stand here, go. And it's like that fast. And before you know it you're like, oh my God, like I'm in front of camera, like they're about to roll. And then everything's on you. Like 50 people. And you have to like nail your lines and nail your take. So how did you do?

Did you ever mess up a bunch when you were like, when it was rolling on you or were you pretty prepared?

I was pretty. Yeah, no, I was pretty prepared because I was like, yo, this is my first thing. Like, I gotta be really nervous though.

I can imagine.

Really nervous.

You have to do a lot of takes or did you kind of get your groove? How did that work?

I kind of got the groove. I think the first couple takes I was like nervous. And it wasn't just like a solo scene or whatever. So there was like other actors messing up me. But then I would like mess up one and we found the rhythm. But yeah, after the first kind of scene, the nervousness went away and I got comfortable with the director and the crew and.

And then you landed your own show, right? With Disney.

Yeah. So all those kind of like built up well before, before Disney, my brother and I kind of had this attitude like, why, why are we waiting for other people to cast us when we know, we know we're talented? We, we want to showcase our skills. Why not like write a movie? And I think, I don't know if you talked about this. Yeah, so like we, we sat down, we're like, okay, let's write a movie. And went into that process, learned a lot about writing from that, finished the project and then went to go like raise funds for it. And like we had no idea what we were doing, but we like paired with some, some awesome people. And eventually we had Ron Burkle and Jonathan Orenstein. Fun the movie. And like we got to see like our vision come to life. And now it's like fully shot and edited and should be coming out like this this year sometime. It's called like airplane mode and we have like all of our social media friends in it. But that was like the idea like, yo, we could, we could do this on our own because we have the built in audience and I think we'll see, we'll start to see like a lot more of that in the future.

Yeah.

And like, I know we want to continue to. To do our own projects as well as be in these, like, traditional films, but yeah, I actually could. Well, leading to your next one. I actually couldn't be in that movie because it's like, rated R. Really? And I. Yeah, and I booked the Disney show.

You couldn't be in airplane mode?

I couldn't be in it because of.

Rated R. Because you're under 18 or what?

Because.

How's that work?

Because I. I'd booked a Disney show before. Like, what? Right before they're about to start shooting. I was like, I can't pass up this opportunity.

So because you're on a Disney show, you can't be in a rated R movie?

Well, yeah, it's pretty. I mean, there's like a gray line. Sure. But the script was like, it was pretty vulgar. And they were like, we. We can't really have you, but you.

So you didn't want to pass up.

On Disney, of course. Yeah, no, definitely not. And that, like, whole process of, you know, auditioning to be on Disney was like a whole nother level of like, competition because there's so many kids and like, so many different rounds of auditioning.

How many kids were there? How many rounds?

I think it. I mean, I think at the start there was like 10, but that was like, after it was like narrowed down.

Right.

So I don't know what the initial like, search was, but might have been.

Hundreds in the beginning. And then it got down to like 10 finalists. And then you did a certain amount of rounds. Was it like a month of rounds or was it a couple weeks?

It was like two to three weeks. And they would like, have you test with like the other actors and, you know, figure out like, who is vibing the best. And I remember just like seeing the character and I immediately, like, understood who he was. And when I went to go do my first test with the girls who were already casted as like the two lead roles, I walk into this room and there was like a giant table and like just 15, like executive looking people, like, just staring at me. Suits.

You're like, yeah.

And I like walk in. I'm like, hey, like, what's up, guys? Like, trying to like, crack the, like, break the ice. And we went into the test.

Were you nervous? Intimidated?

I was very nervous. I was very nervous. But I was, I practiced so much. I had my lines, like, perfectly memorized. I knew exactly, like, you know, the arcs I was going to take throughout the scene. And like, halfway through the scene, I was, like, playing it so good that the girls that I was testing with started laughing. They, like, broke character because I was, like, making them laugh so hard.

You were too good.

And. And, yeah, the executives were laughing, too. And sort of after that one, like, I came home and my brother was like, how did it go? And I was like, yo, I. I know I got the role. I know I got the role. And I kind of just like, had that. That mindset of, like, yo, like, I killed that one. I just got to keep on killing it and eventually got the role. But it was an awesome process, and that was probably, like, one of the. The biggest moments of my career. Getting the call. Like, hey, like, you booked this Disney Channel show. It was very, very surreal.

It's crazy. That's like winning the state championship. National championship.

Exactly. And. And I knew that I had, you know, break into traditional media somehow in. In some way. And if I was one of the first influencers to do so, then that would set me up for success in the future. Just because, like, having that experience under my belt, which is like, the. The Disney. It's like, a powerhouse and brand and their connections, and they own Marvel and abc. I was like, okay, this is the right place to be at. And the experience I gained from, like, just the first season of being on Bizaardvark was massive. Like, shooting 21 episodes. Like, I could memorize pages of lines in, like, minutes, really, and blocking and four cameras pointed at me. And, like, I basically, throughout that process, I lost, like, all the nervousness I had as an actor. I completely, like, broke out of my shell, which takes. Sometimes. It takes, like, a lot of actors a long time to get there. And then once they get there, they're like. They're some of the best actors that we see today. Wow. But, yeah, I mean, it was. It was such a huge moment to. To be able to have, like, a series regular job, something steady as an actor. Yeah.

And again, you're differentiating yourself from all the other big social media influencers who have. Maybe they have 10 million followers, but they don't have mainstream credibility. They don't have something consistent. They're schlepping, like, sweet tea or whatever it is or, like, you know, like, vitamins online.

Yeah.

To, like, continue to make money because they've got this audience, but they don't know how to build a business. They don't know how to build their own brand and traditional media around it. Maybe they're getting a few press hits or some articles or features. But they're not doing something like this, like a show, a movie, you know, getting bigger brand deals the way you are. Which is interesting.

Exactly. And, and one thing that I noticed after like we finished filming or after the show started airing, a demographic that never previously came up to me in public started coming up to me.

Really?

And it was an audience that was like five, six, seven years old that didn't even have cell phones. And so that was like you're getting.

Five year olds come up to you.

Yeah.

And.

And what's your name on the show? Dirk. Dirk.

So they say you're.

They don't even know Jake.

They don't even say Dirk.

Yeah, they said Dirk. Oh my God. Like you're on Bizarre Vark and they don't even have cell phones. And that's that. And that moment I realized, okay, this decision to like spend a ton of time on making the show was so worth it because I'm building into that audience who like eventually will have phones, who can eventually follow me on social media and while I'm building out this like social media demographic. And so to me, it was all worth it when that started to happen.

Because you're probably not making as much money as you could be on other things from the show. I'm sure it's making good money, but it's not like as big as a big brand deal could be for you.

Just for one video, of course. Yeah, no, you're right.

And so you're almost sacrificing a certain area of your, your, you know, finances and your business to have a huge upside later. You're delaying the gratification by reaching an audience again. That really can't do much for you right now, but, but also tying yourself to Disney brand and saying you're an actor on Disney is massive. Yeah.

And that was then. That was like the thought around it, like, I'm going to need to invest the time now and this is going to pay off later. And the hustle on everything else is going to have to increase because like, even now I'm gonna have to vlog every day while on set every day. So.

Wow.

It's gonna, it's a lot.

How do you organize? You know, when I was 19, I was, I couldn't even get to class, you know, and all I was doing was focusing on football and I don't know like, what I was gonna eat that day. Like, how are you as a night. You're 20 now, right?

Yeah.

How are you as a 20 year old organizing your day, your finances Your life thinking about acting, businesses that we haven't even talked about. Building your content every day. Like you're doing so much every day. How does someone at 20, when a lot of people are listening at 30, 40, 50, are struggling with organizing the day? How are you able to do that?

The number one thing towards time management.

And how are you like thinking about that and how have you learned how to do this?

So as, as like my day started to fill up to the point where like I couldn't do anything else in the day. I had to just go to sleep. I was like, how do I prioritize this? And I studied a lot about, about time management, like prioritizing the things that you need to get done on a day to day basis. What's, what's more important, like you sitting on your phone and like texting people back right away or getting your video done and, and to the editor and being on set and memorizing your lines and taking this specific meeting. And I then invested money to hire employees to like an assistant who can basically do a lot of these like small tasks for me that I don't necessarily need to be doing unless I have to be there, I'm not going to do it. And she's like scheduling my day and you know, breaking down things as much as possible. The biggest thing I can say is like habit, the power of like habit and like doing things consistently. You know, waking up at this time, starting your video at this time, having your weekly meeting on Monday at 10 with all of your employees. So, so that you know you're gonna have to, you know, get a different piece of content for that day because you're not gonna have as much time to film and kind of just like knowing all of these things. But a lot goes into it and you really if like my saying is you gotta want it and I think that's like the number one thing is like you gotta want it. Like there's so much time in a day when I like pause and stop all of these things. I'm like so bored and like the time. Yeah. So I think I really started to realize like how much time there was in a day and you gotta want it and cut out all the non. The stuff that doesn't matter.

Yeah.

Even like a lot of influencers in particularly like they want to go out to eat for every single meal. Breakfast go to breakfast spot, lunch go to a lunch spot, dinner go to a dinner spot. That right there is like each of those activities is two hours. I'm like, yo, I'm just gonna like have. I'm just gonna get a personal chef and like have meal plans and microwave the stuff. Cook it up. It's healthy, quick done. So like, little things like that you have to think about.

They are taking a lot of meetings, aren't they? Just like lunch and dinner meetings or just hanging with friends during breakfast?

A lot of it. Just like hanging out.

Yeah, just hanging.

Yeah.

It's six hours a day of just like eating.

Exactly.

And going to somewhere. Yeah.

Yeah.

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Apply Fidelity Brokerage Services Member nyse, sipc, Things. I forget the guy's name. Yeah, I was, I was studying it. What's his name? Lee. Lee. Clark Lee something. I don't know. He. He has a program called like Thrive 15, but. Oh yeah, have you heard of that?

Yeah.

So I watched a couple of videos on there.

Yep.

That really like, talked about how time.

Management and all these things. Setting up your day.

Exactly. And, and the way I think about it is like, yeah, I'm doing all of these things, but like people, people are doing more. Yeah, like there's celebrities doing more. So how can I do more? There's business people who are doing more. Like, I just think about the CEO of Uber or, you know, Snapchat. Like, imagine how much stuff is on their to do list and they have to prioritize it. And so I think about it in the same way as much as possible.

Five years ago, before you got into all this stuff, did you imagine you'd be here right now? No. What do you think you'd be doing? Like, finishing school and going to college and, you know, have a girlfriend or what? What was your vision then?

My vision then I was actually training. I was starting to train to become a Navy seal.

Really?

Yeah.

It's typical Ohio.

You know, it's like, of course. No, I was like, I didn't know what I wanted to do.

Right.

My grades weren't that good, but I was athletic, I knew how to work hard, and I was smart. I just didn't never, like, apply myself. And so started. And, like, the Navy SEALS is, like, everything that I loved. Like competition, mental toughness, brotherhood. Yeah, exactly. And so I was, like, fell in love with that and started putting a lot of effort into, like, figuring out how I was gonna do that. And, I mean, it's still something I want to do, but. But maybe you can play Navy SEAL on a movie. Exactly. That's the great thing about Hollywood is cool. You can do everything.

Yeah. So you're on that track, and then these things kind of fold. When you started to get contraction, did you realize, like, oh, I want to be, like, this influencer person, and. And this is what I'm going to do now, or did you think you'd be this big?

I don't think so. I think. I think part of where we found success is not thinking too much.

Yeah.

Which is, like. I think a lot of people overthink, like, okay, I need to do this, this, and this. And, you know, it's super hard to become an actor, so I'm not even gonna try. We didn't know how hard it was, but we just, like, went for it. I think that's, like, part of where we found success. Or, like, we didn't know, you know, exactly. You know, the formulas for creating, like, the best videos online at this point. Like, we were still young and, like, green, but we just went for it and posted content.

Yeah.

And I think as I, you know, started to progress, I sort of, like, was learning a lot and. And then started to see, like, where this could go. But definitely from the start, I was like, there was kind of just, like, growing followers and, like, making money from.

It, but.

Eventually I realized I needed to have, like, a vision.

Yeah. Yeah. And what is the vision now?

Vision now. I. I like to think of myself as, like, a young Ashton Kutcher. Like, the modern young Ashton Kutcher, where, like, he takes his, you know, acting presence and grows. That becomes like, you know, a huge star, but is also on the business side of things and the tech side of things and is an investor. And, you know, if Ashton doesn't want to act, he doesn't have to. And I think a lot of actors are trying to, like, take that route now, but they don't know how to do it. Like, they're maybe just good at acting, but the spin on it is, like, now there's a social media element involved and the acting space is a little bit different. And, like, the going, getting to the top is no one's really done it in, like, today's space now, so there's not like a paved set path. But yeah, like, I want to have this big presence in the world and be able to, you know, launch different businesses and products and. And charities and give back to the fans and just have fun along the way. I think one of my, like, very specific goals is I'd like to be like a superhero or super villain in like, a huge action movie. Like a Marvel. Yeah.

This sweet.

Yeah, The Green Goblin. I like, I want to play like a, like the Joker or something. Like a hard role. Yeah, I could see that.

Huh? That's cool, man. I'd see as the. The young Ashton Kutcher for sure. I mean, that guy's really paved out an incredible career for himself. Great brand. And he's, you know, invested in multiple, you know, companies as well. I'm an investor in one of the companies he's an investor in, and it's been incredible to see what he's done. I don't know him personally, but he's always impressed me, so.

Yeah, no, same.

And that you could do that. I mean, hey, that's great vision, man.

Thank you.

That's awesome. And so you're. It's. What's fascinating now is you're 20 years old and you've got. You started a couple of companies already and you have this thing called Team 10. Is that correct?

Yeah.

And what is Team 10 and what was the vision for creating this?

So sort of right when I backtracking, like before the acting stuff, like, that's one side of me. Social media sides, one side. The business side is like, I was sitting here in la, I was like, how do I become bigger than just myself or how do I create, like an empire? And I asked myself and, like, a lot. A couple of my mentors were like, think of how you can create money while you're sleeping. Like, mailbox money, where, like, you're just getting checks for not doing anything. Necessarily. And I started to think of how this would be applicable. And I was, like, studying the entertainment space, and I saw what Dr. Dre did where he was a big artist himself. He had a skill set, and he would find people with the potential to be like him. He would teach them that skill set, help them, like, cultivate it, then put them in front of his audience, and from that they would blow up. Out comes Eminem, 50 cents, Snoop Dogg, Tupac. And he starts to create this network, and Dr. J becomes bigger than himself. But then what he did with that was special was like, takes that network of influential people that he's very close with and puts a pair of headphones on him, and then that's his billion dollar exit. And so I was like, okay, is this same model applicable on social media? Can I find someone else who has potential small following and make them massive online? And so I put it to the test, and it immediately worked. I found these kids, they had like 30,000 followers at the time. And, like brothers, or their brothers, their twins. Yeah. And. And brought them out to Los Angeles for, like a month, started making videos with them, taught them, like, you know, little tips and tricks to add to their content. Taught them, like, how to post across the different platforms, like, all the little things that go into it. And I put them in front of my audience, and they were young, good looking, and good at making videos. And so they immediately went from like 30,000 followers, like 500,000 in a matter of weeks. Wow. And so I was like, okay, this worked.

What are they at now?

Now they're at like, 15 million.

What?

Yeah.

On one channel, on all channels.

Just all their channels come out. Yeah. But at the time, it was kind of just like a test, and I was seeing if it would work, so. And I was still 17 at the time. It's crazy, it sounds cliche, but what I found in growing out the network that I have with other influencers is like, at the start, I was just always giving and giving and giving and seeing nothing in return. And then later on, that's when the rewards come. And so I think as much as you can give to people without expecting anything in return, whether that's giving to charities, whether that's giving people advice, whether that's giving people promotion in a video, or, you know, giving back to your fans and thanking them, I think that always comes full circle. And what goes around comes around. I think life will then give give back to you. Because at the start of, like, growing team 10 alone, it was just like a lot of Giving and nothing in return until like very recently, actually. And so I found out that if you can give in relationships or in business or in life or to charities, that I really think that whatever the higher power is, I think there's something up there that then gives you that back in. In greater form.

That's great, man. What does it take to be a true champion? To be the best in the world at something? You lived it for a long time. What does the mindset have to be like if someone wants to be the best at what they do?

It's just dedicating and sacrificing your life to being a particular way. You want to be like you want to conduct. Say you want to be like Tony Robbins. You get all the information you can about Tony Robbins and you conduct your. This is how I want to live my life. This is almost like. What do we call these things? This is your manuscript.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, the blueprint.

Yeah.

Yeah. This is what I'm gonna do.

Yeah.

And I'm gonna live like Tony. I'm not gonna be Tony Robbins, but. I'm listening. I'm gonna conduct myself like Tony Robbins.

Yeah. So you gotta live it, you gotta breathe it.

And you have to be that before you actually become the person. You're not gonna become the person over there. You think you're prepared to be Tony Robbins right now, right to that tomorrow you Tony Robbins. You didn't know. It's going to take time. So I'm going to become this guy, you know, I'm going to be this guy before because you're not ready. But when the time comes, you're going to be ready. You're going to be Tony Robbins. This is my life. I'm accustomed to this. Of course I got this role. Of course I got this job. Of course I got this rig. I'm prepared for it. You wouldn't even be surprised.

Before you became the champ the first time, were you visualizing and imagining.

Yes, I was 14. This is who I am. This is who I'm gonna be. I'm Kentucky. This is the guy. You have to be the champ before you be the champ. You understand? Does that make sense?

Yeah.

Does that really? Cause it sounds like you have to be him before you can be him. You can't just pop just by training and doing push ups and knocking people out. This is on the champ. No, you have to be the actual champ. Your conduct, your lifestyle, have to be the champ before you actually wear the belt. Maybe that's better. You have to be the Champ before you can even wear a belt.

Wow.

So you were saying, I'm gonna be the champ. You were living life that you were.

I would read books about them. That's all I did. Read books about them, watch them fight. That's my life. I wasn't in school and I wasn't training. I was watching them and reading about them.

Watching the greats. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. What's the best advice you ever got from a champion before you?

I don't know. Most of them, the advice they gave me about life and tips. They said, you have to live your own life. You can't live your life like me. I can't live my life like you. You know, and we just all different. And some of them say, take care of your money. You know, they regret about that.

Right.

I used to learn from afar. A lot of these guys I used to watch the way they conduct themselves. They're always dignified, most of them. Some of them have some mental issues that he had damage from boxing. They're a little bit outrageous. But other than that, most of them are very dignified and classy men.

Yeah. What was your biggest weakness when you were the champ for so long as you were knocking guys out in the first round, first few seconds? What was the biggest weakness in your game and also in your life?

I don't know. I think I was a glutton. I just wanted everything.

Material things to win women.

This everything's one of everything. You wanted the world right now, though. That's the only. I wanted it now. I didn't want it yesterday, tomorrow I want it right now.

It's instant wow.

And if you can't give it to me, I don't want it no more.

If I can't get it right now.

I don't want it no more. Yeah. Anything I couldn't have, Anything I couldn't have. I despise and hate it. Wow.

Yeah.

If I couldn't have that girl, I hate her.

Wow.

Could I have that car? Those cars, they might have drive that car.

Why do you think that was? If you couldn't have it right now, you didn't like it anymore.

I didn't need no distractions. Oh, wow. That made me feel anything. That I'm less than immortal.

Wow.

Yeah.

So if you couldn't get right now, it made you feel less than immortal.

Yeah.

So you were like, get it out of my life.

Exactly.

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Error. I never thought about that, but I'm sure it was bizarre or something.

Yeah. I want a tiger right now. Give me my mentality.

That's just the way I was raised as a fighter to think. Because it would. If you couldn't get it, it would distract you. Why can't I possess that? If I'm so great? Why can't I possess that?

Wow.

That'll distract you from your goals in life.

What do you think is your greatest weakness right now, this time of your life?

I don't know. My friends and my kids and stuff. Family.

It's a weakness.

Yeah.

Cause people we're losing so many people they think that he's dead. She's sick. My friend, mother just Died yesterday. Everybody started dying. Everybody's so sad and wow, you know, there's some. Instead of, you know, we should always look at death as something glorious, you know, because, listen, life is very interesting. Listen, we got it for nothing. Look at what we received. We have kids and grandkids. All of a sudden, your mother and father and they saw each other and, hey, we in love. We made love. Now look, we're here. Look all we got. Look what you do. Look at your show. It's because people were in love. You know what I mean? This is glorious. For free.

Free. We didn't have to pay anything to be here.

Nothing. You can't get mad when it's our time to go. It's free.

What do you think about with death?

Death is beautiful, you know? How could life be beautiful? Death is not beautiful. It wouldn't be life if there wasn't death.

Wow.

So death isn't something you're afraid of?

At one stage in my life. And then you reach 52 and you say, whoa, I'm not going to get another 52.

Wow.

And then, you know, what happened to that time? My whole perspective in life is different. My whole perspective is what I needed, what I wanted. That was all about what I needed, what I needed for someone else that I love. When am I leaving? When I'm going. It's really bizarre, right? When you have the actual confrontation aspect of your mortality no longer existing.

What do you think is your biggest superpower right now? Like your biggest strength?

I think it's me, who I am, my essence, my existence. When I'm no longer here, it does no longer exist.

How do you want to be remembered now?

Just remember, it doesn't matter how. You know, how many thousands of years are going to go by once I die? It no longer matters.

No one's going to remember then. Yeah, a couple thousand years. Yeah. So what's the biggest fear for you right now? You don't have any big fears right now.

Besides, eventually I wouldn't want kids getting sick. I want them to have a life like I had and seeing the world like I've seen. Other than that. No. I'm prepared to meet God.

Wow. What was the biggest mentor you had when you were in jail? Was there anyone in jail that. That taught you anything or. No one.

Oh, yeah. It was just radical. And jail and my mental. I need to run it all.

Really?

Yeah.

You were like, I'm gonna run this whole place.

I want to be in control. I want to do this. I want to have my food Brought. It's just goofy. It's a mindset you get once you get put in that situation. I'm a megalomania at it.

Wow. What was the biggest thing you learned about yourself during that time?

Oh, no, back then I learned that I didn't want to be there. I was afraid to be there. No, I was afraid that I lost everything that I had at once.

You lost all your money at one point, right?

Yeah, but no. Well, no, no, not that time. At that time, I still had money. When I was in prison, I still had money. It wasn't no bankruptcy stuff, but I couldn't do nothing. So I was calling my accountants to send money to her. Somebody needs money. I would still take care of my friends and their bills and stuff. But.

You'Re afraid you lost everything else.

Yeah. Like the titles?

Like the respect?

No, just things you could have done if you didn't have this. What do you call it? Garbage bond. What is this garbage here?

Yeah.

You didn't have this garbage you could have carved off. There's a lot of things a lot of people used to it up. Oh, man.

What do you think you could have accomplished had you not gone to jail?

Really good stuff. But I've accomplished it. When I came out, right. And I still wasn't happy. It was just all in my mind. All the things I thought I could accomplish. Only if I didn't go to jail was just a hallucination in my mind. I went to jail. I still accomplished everything, if not more than I thought I was accomplishing.

Because you came out and you still won the title.

Yeah.

You made a bunch of money.

It was just an illusion, you know, I was chasing illusion. It was just. It never existed. But it was in my head. I was in my head. I was getting revenge. For who? No one got you in jail with you. Who am I getting revenge on? It's just my head was, you know.

What happened to your life when you started studying spirituality more?

I don't know. Spirituality is pretty tricky, you know, it's pretty much just letting it wing you say, just imagine if it was like this. And then you realize, I can make it like this. You know, spirituality, I don't know. It wipes everything. This is what spirituality. It wipes everything that I ever believed. It makes it a lie, you know.

I mean, what did you used to believe that makes it a lie now?

I believe just what everybody else. Adam and Eve. Yeah. I believe that'd be answer. I believe I believed all that crap. Wow. And everything then. So that's the paradigm shift with everything you've been taught your whole life and then it comes the time you realize was a lie. Now, how do we start from there? Well, we live in a lie. We have to make up our own lie and live in this lie. You know, it's going to take. If you check and try to figure out to the day you die, you will never figure it out. It's based thousands and thousands and how many millions of lives and years of lives and some people just dedicated their whole lives to trying to figure out the lives and what this world about and they found out nothing.

They got.

They had, you know, they have this big encyclopedia of mine about wonderful things in the history of the world and stuff, but we don't have the answer still, you know, it's just a beautiful ride.

Just enjoy the ride.

Yeah.

Don't try to figure everything out.

No way. It's a beautiful ride. We don't do that. There's human beings we don't do that. We don't enjoy. Not right. We gotta figure this out. This is not right. This is nice. That's how we are. Do you think if you had to spoil something. Yeah, I know.

Do you think if you had more peace in your heart, more love in your heart in your 20s, 30s, do you think you would have enjoyed the ride more? And do you think you would have been able to be as successful in the boxing world if you had peace and love in your heart?

I didn't know all my life I read about the conqueror, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Charlemagne, all these crazy gods clothed. I read about these guys, you know what I mean? They declared themselves God, you know, depends on. Just think of great prophecies. Think of Jesus of Prophet Muhammad was in the time of Alexander the Great. He would eliminate them. They wouldn't exist anymore. Everything is proper timing, you know, in certain worlds, in certain times, they would never existed. Wow.

When do you think was the moment you started to feel more peace in your heart, like inner peace?

I don't know. When I had the responsibility of just.

Taking care of my family, that's when it shifted more.

Yeah. After I tried to destroy it, it didn't work. And I said, well, I have to take care of this stuff. I have to really confront what am I going to do here, you know. And then I said, this is what I'm going to do. And I'm going to dedicate my life. And that was a mess too. And then eventually we have 10 years, you know, it worked out. We have a Great deal of respect for one another.

Where do you think you'd be if you had no kids right now?

I wouldn't exist.

Really.

No way.

Where would you be?

I don't know. Probably dead with AIDS or something.

Really?

I wouldn't exist. Or maybe somebody would kill me for. With their wife, their girlfriend. You never know. Else I'd be a junkie.

Wow.

Without kids. That's the only thing that stayed on me.

Wow.

That's the only thing that gave me any kind of meaning. I'd have kids. The world. I don't give up.

Wow.

Yeah. We have talk.

Do you wish you would have had kids younger then or.

No.

I wouldn't accomplish my goals. Everything's. Proper timing. Proper timing?

Yeah.

Listen, you think you're playing checkers and you think you navigating your life, but you're not. You know, you think you. I know. You say, why don't I just go ahead and do some jokes and just. My life up there and. Mike, don't think I'm navigating my life and miss. You're just not. You're not programmed to do that then. And if you were programmed to do that, you were programmed to come back and rebound. Your life is not meant to go there. It's just not meant to be. Wow.

What do you think is the lesson you still want to learn for yourself? Like the challenge you want to overcome still to make you a better person?

I can't. I can't. And never find that. Because that lesson, that thing I want to realize is, why me? Why is this happening? I'm never going to figure that out.

What's the question you wish you could have answered?

Why is this? Who am I? Why is my purpose here? You know? But I can make sense. I can say my purpose is to be the best person I could possibly be before I die. You know what I mean? That could be my purpose in life. See how far we can go in life before we die.

Yeah.

You know, but suppose people don't think in that perspective. That's what LL Cool J told me. Cause I'm talking some. I think I'm talking some glamorous. I'm talking some fly. And he was telling me on. Mike, you know, there's some people that live in the outskirts of Ohio somewhere. They just live simple lives and that's all they want to do, Mike.

Enjoy the money.

We talking about them? Nothing.

Nothing.

They afraid to die. Made me meet God. Taking care of the kids, the people they love who may go on a vacation, may never go On a vacation or leave the town. But this is just a simple life. There's is what makes them happy.

Yeah.

And I really can't, you know, I come into a place if you're nothing, if you ain't something, you're nothing.

You know?

Isn't that so Shower if you're not something. You know, what's my definition of something? Somebody with a fucking wad of money in their pocket. I have no concept of humanity is what life is. Does that mean I have a wad? I should be able to violate that person. That doesn't.

Wow.

Oh no. Yeah.

I'm lost again. Wow. I shouldn't start to just go with the flow.

How did you learn to finally start forgiving yourself for.

Oh, that man. That happened. Excuse my language. That must have happened yesterday or something. That stuff. You just don't do that stuff overnight. It doesn't work like that. At least with me it doesn't work like that. Took a long time to forgive yourself because I only. I know my demons and I realize in life everybody's gonna really find them out eventually. Then you gotta hide that. It doesn't work that way.

So you just started to forgive yourself on things or it's happening every day.

Or you know, it comes around.

Yeah.

Wow. I'm not gonna. Hey, Mike. You did cool, man. God love you. I don't function. I don't think that. I don't think God leaves you to figure it out. He doesn't know yourself. Is it cool? It's cool. If it's not, it's not. You figure it out.

Yeah.

What are you most proud of in your life that you've done?

I'm proud that I'm existing.

Yes.

I love to be alive. I know that makes sounds all but I'm proud to be alive and existing.

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