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This is a short transcript excerpt from a YouTube interview titled "The power of coaching, Tobias Lutke CEO Shopify - The Startup CEO show" (uploaded by Mark MacLeod on September 13, 2024). Tobias Lutke reflects on how projects that are slightly too hard accelerate personal and team growth—"you can have people go for 10 years of four clock career time in a year"—and recounts Shopify's IPO, noting that only one person in the ~20-person executive group had prior public-company experience.

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