Affording Private Jets, Immigration, Lee's Birthday!

Welcome back to the Mike Andes Podcast where we discuss the ins and outs of owning a small business. If you're new here, the Mike Candies podcast is all about taking your business to the next level. We have another C Suite Unfiltered ready for you with Lee park and Mike Gandies. This time it's Lee's birthday. That means light topics and boring content, right? Nope. Instead, Mike and Lee talk about the January 6th insurrection immigration. Plus, Mike spent some time with Meet Kevin over the past weekend. What kind of money do you need to afford a private jet? Find out in today's off the cuff chat. As always, you can find all this and more over at the C Suite Unfiltered YouTube channel. But let's get right into it. This is SE Suite Unfiltered with Lee park and my Candies.

All right, dude, Happy birthday.

Thank you.

Welcome to another episode of C Suite Unfiltered.

Thank you, sir. Birthdays.

29 years old.

29 years old last year, 27. Turning 28 this year.

Yeah, nice, Eddie. We're getting old, man.

Yeah, we're, we're not going to make any 30 under 30 lists or anything like that like Forbes does.

You got another year.

What's up with that? Yeah, well, I mean, I'm just saying.

Hey, you could push a thousand subscribers, you might have a shot.

We're pushing it. We're pushing it. Thank you, sir. Thank you to everyone that sent me birthday messages. Absolutely. Dude.

Essential sponsor, let's go.

You obviously have to get this way more than me because you, you're more public facing than I. But the worst thing about your birthday is the random phone number, birthday texts.

Oh really?

And you're just like, oh, I don't know who this is.

And there's no context either like no previous messages or you deleted it. You're like, oh man, who is this?

Oh man. The worst. Yeah, if they, if they, if they're not contact, I definitely don't respond. But like I'm getting pretty bad cause like there's so much of like the people I kind of actually do know from like just the public, like conferences so many times. Like they're long care business, I don't care web design clients and like I kind of get to know them and I have to kind of not respond to them. So like I'm just getting bad at responding to people in general. My family now are starting to get on the bandwagon reminding me that I'm horrible at responding back. Yeah, don't feel bad, bro.

It's all Good.

It's a random number. Obviously not important enough to be in your cell phone. They're not on the list, bro.

That's fair. That's fair.

Yeah.

Today I was. Because I, like, I still worked a full schedule that, like, I. I enjoy working. I love Augusta. And it was fun, but I was getting calls and, like, oh, yeah, you know, people were trying to FaceTime me and stuff. I was literally, like, in the middle of a sales call, and, like, my mom's.

You know, I gotta finish this up here.

You know, just do a quick close, like. So you ready to sign? I gotta answer this. So, yeah, you did something pretty interesting recently.

Oh, are you gonna jump in?

Let's do it, man. So you haven't posted anything about this on your public channel?

I'm not going to.

Oh. Oh, okay. Exclusive to C suite, Unfiltered. So you got to hang out with me, Kevin.

Let's just.

Let's just clear the air. You did pay for it. Yeah, because people are like, how'd you link up with me, Kevin? He was doing a promo. So tell me how you heard about the promo, what the promo was, and then we'll get into the details.

Yeah, so I've had a couple interviews before, too, with Meet Kevin. They weren't paid. This one was paid $3,000. You basically shadow him for a day. And so in this specific case, we went to Aurora, Carol, California. Looked at, like, nine houses down there. So, yeah, I wasn't really there for looking at the real estate. I really was just, you know, there to shadow. The value for me is, like, just getting around someone that thinks really big. Right. Like, it's not healthy, in my opinion, for me to tell, like, the franchisees, especially, like, hey, like, become better. Grow. Learn your. Educate yourself. Like, listen to podcasts, listen to books. And then I'm over here, like, stalling out in what I'm learning. And so there comes a point where you have to start paying, like, weird amounts of money to go, you know, be around those type of people and not be the smartest person in the room, which not. Let's not say the smartest. The. The person with the most money in the room if you're actually trying to grow, expand. So, yeah, paid three grand. I think it was worth it for me. Definitely wasn't. Like, I was a fanboy, which. It was more a matter, like, I asked, had specific questions about banking, about media, stuff like that. So it was good. Yeah, it was fun.

So. So he put this promo out that for three grand, you could join him look at houses, learn real estate, and just kind of watch the back end of how Meet Kevin works. So what you. What was your main goal that you had of that meeting? Uh, was it to fly in a private jet? I guess we kind of glossed over that.

I actually even have questions going into it, to be perfectly honest. I didn't have any, you know, things. I was like, oh, I gotta ask him this question. Not at all. It was like, I just need to get around people that are thinking way bigger than me because I think the private jet thing for his stage is stupid. I still think this.

Did you say that too?

If I would have, if I would have. If I would have thought about it, I probably would have ran some math for him that I had ran previous in my head. And then like, okay, what's not making sense here?

And like, the reason I didn't post that publicly is people think, okay, because I'm with Kevin, I'm going to become like him. Or like I somehow support everything he's doing or like, somehow I became a fanboy and like, I'm paying him to be paying to be around him. But the bottom line is like, I expect people to come to conferences. I think that's a great deal. I think people should buy audiobooks and like, buy courses and like, educate themselves. Like, I have to do the same thing.

Yeah.

And as well as the fact that like, just being around someone that is thinking so big that they are willing to buy a private jet for something I think is like, I don't think. I don't. The master said to me, does not make sense, but he made sense of it. And I want to be around someone that thinks outside the box and thinks bigger than everyone else around them. And it gets ridiculed for thinking that big. Um, I'd rather be around someone that's get re getting ridiculed for how big they think than how small they think. And so yeah, it just like get around someone who's like, like it just when you start running the math like a private jet, dude, it does not make sense. Yeah. And I'm not going to invest in his. His business either. House hack. I'm not investor in that. I don't think I will that will that the trip cemented the fact that I would not invest in their business.

Well, would you be comfortable sharing why it's cemented?

I think it's being ran like an influencer's business and not like a business.

And I. There's no. No knock on Kevin. I like Kevin. He'll probably see this but like, because he somehow finds whatever I mention him. But anyways.

The reason, like I know what it's like to run a real business that has hundreds of people, lots of moving parts, et cetera. He, for, for years and years was against hiring people. Right. And when I, even when I interviewed him last year, it was like I can just do it myself kind of thing. He's now going to do house hacking. He's got to get a team around him. But he really doesn't have the Skill to run $100 million organization that requires dozens of individuals contributing. And so the problem with an influencer type business is typically you have all of the decision making power at the top and no hierarchy and no management. And so things fall through the cracks. Decisions are made too quickly. There's no one challenging that person because like the people around him are fans. They're people that he played video games with. Like Rust online. Yeah. Like I don't think that's healthy. I like, like you and I were brought together because of business and so we have a really good business relationship. I don't feel like someone who's brought together because of video games as a commonality is going to run a business well together typically.

Yep.

And so I just feel like there's too much group think and so I don't think it's being ran like a business. I just, just my personal opinion. I know we're like I'm shooting above my head at that level. Right?

Yeah.

But that's just my takeaway from that small perspective because I wasn't like considering investing or anything but like stepping away. It's like I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole.

Yeah.

And hey, I'll probably be wrong. Like maybe he'll crush it. Probably figure out the, all the bumps along the road. But like I, I wasn't blown away. The operational excellence. Yeah.

I don't want to fully step away from that. Because, because I do want to talk and talk about the fact that you were on a PJ on a private chat. But I, I do want to.

Give me a second. Yeah. Someone text. Did you text me that?

No, I don't know.

Someone else text me pj. And I was like, dude, that's what.

All the rappers say.

Peanut butter and jelly. I was like, I don't know.

Get off the PJ and your PJs. You know. No. One of our franchisees, Kyle, Shadow Kyle from Oklahoma, he recommended the book to me on a lot of coaching calls. I try to ask franchisees, like, what are you reading? Are you pushing yourself? Like, what are. Do you have managers? Are they reading anything? And he recommended who, not how. I can't think of the author right now, but I think that encapsulates kind of what you're saying about Kevin a little bit, which is he needs to build a who, not a how. And he. He obviously has the drive to figure out how. Like, he can figure out how to do things, but he needs who's around him to get it done.

And he might grow into it. Right. Like, what you have to realize as an influencer is that your job is promoting. Your job is not operations. And as soon as you can realize that, it'll be very freeing. Because he's good at promoting. Right. And people hate him for that, but that's why he crushes it. He's good at promoting. So focus on that instead of trying to do all these other things that you, number one, have always ran away from, don't enjoy, and probably are not the best at. Go hire an executive. Overpay for them. But they have 20, 30 years of experience of running a multi billion dollar organization, and they'll come and just make you so much better on the oper side. And so, you know, for me, I don't really want to be known as an influencer RAM business. It's extremely important to me. And. Yeah, so anyways.

Yeah.

So. So when I'm there, I'm like, okay, this is a good idea. This is something I would avoid at all cost. This is like what I don't like. This is what I do like. So I also don't think I need a private jet anymore.

Yeah.

Which is kind of a bummer. I was stoked about that. If I just put the cards on the table, like, that would have been cool.

It's cool. But math, like, the math.

Yeah.

I could never make sense of it. Like, for example, just the mortgage that he's paying on the. So he paid about 2, 3 million dollars down on the. On. On the plane.

And it's what, like a $50 million plane?

No, no, 13. Oh, okay. 13 million. If you get one that you need to stand up in, like, you basically double or triple the price. You go up to Gulf Stream 500 and something like that.

I was like, I was just assuming it was bigger.

Yeah, no, no, it's smaller plane, but it's brand new, so that's why. 13 million. Anyways, it was like 2 or 3 million dollars down plus just the mortgage. $75,000 a month. That's like no fuel, no pilot. Which has a full time pilot. Like no hangar space, just the mortgage. 75,000. $75,000 a month. I started running math.

Yeah.

Would get like all my family and extended family, a mansion each. Yeah. And a car. Yeah. I'm like, how could I fathom, Even if I'm like super frugal going and get a private jet. Yeah. And then my family, like not getting a mansion each.

Yeah.

Would never do either of them. So like it's just like.

Or.

Okay, good.

$75,000 a month. This is one new Augusta location each month. Yeah. I mean, theoretically. Right. Just from the initial investment.

Yeah.

I mean you put around 80 into your new corporate stores.

Yeah.

This is 75,000, right? Not 7,500.

No, 75,000.

Okay.

Yeah, yeah. The thing is like if you actually take the cost of a flight, for example, it's not, it's like the fuel, the pilot, everything is so much you, whatever you're doing, but it'd be high value. And that's where me. The math didn't work. If you're gonna go buy houses, we went, looked at nine of them, let's say three of them that you wanted to buy and all of them, you're able to create like a hundred thousand dollars worth of equity over the course of a couple years. That's 300 grand. But you spend $150,000 in wages for your staff to go there, your pilot, the fuel. You just for one trip, if you were there twice, you just wiped all your profit out. Yeah. So whatever you're doing, this is why, like I'm saying, he's thinking on a totally different level because he's somehow made sense of it. Which means he has, he has a conviction that this company is going to literally 10x so all power to him. I think that's great.

Yeah, that's awesome.

And I hope that happens for him. It just, I don't see the operational excellence required to do that in the business because it's. He has not set like managers a coo. Like. Yeah, I want to say things like that.

No, you're good. I. I think what I want to say is like credit to you for going into it with that mentality of like critiquing, learning, understanding, questioning. And I think that's what you wish. And what I wish, like when people come to our conference or when they interact with us, it's like no critique. Have a little bit of reservation about what we're saying. Like analyze, question, you know, the classic Saying is trust but verify. Right. And so it's like, you trust me, Kevin, enough to like pay him the money, get the experience from him, but you want to verify that what he's saying is legitimate, that you understand his business plans and like what he's doing.

Moving forward and that there's some things that I could be completely wrong on my conviction. Convictions, right? Yeah. Because he says something that I might think, oh, that's crazy. But he has different perspective and has done it right. He's done something right. Totally right. And so like I can't afford no private jet. So like he's done something right. I can learn from that. Right. So.

Yeah, I think people are just too close minded and at the same token they're too gullible. Right. There's a balance in between there. But I think the vast majority of people are actually too close minded. It's like, oh, I've always done it this way, or like that's wrong. Like maybe it's not right that the influencer needs to be just the promoter. Right. I could be wrong on that. Maybe he's a, he has great effort, great ability to do operations. I just don't typically see that. Right. Especially from someone like him that went from like literally no employees to now running a 100 million dollar business. I just don't see that working well. Yeah, right.

So all right, one out of ten. How was the PJ experience? Like, we gotta know, we gotta know.

I would give it like a solid six out of ten.

Only a six, huh?

Yeah, because like the math just hurts me too much. From an experience perspective. Yeah, it's great, dude. You literally drive up, you walk on the plane, you head out, it's like there's no friction, there's no security, there's nothing. And yeah, you can get like way more done. Like what would take me three days you can get done in one day. You'd literally do that in terms of just the travel time. Like for example, I was running the math, okay. So like I was supposed to be there a certain time. I could have, if I had my own flat private jet, I could have done it all in one day. It took me three days. Like went there the day before, got a hotel, went and did the trip with him, got that night back in. There's no flights out of LA at that night at night. So I had to go the next morning. So it took me three days, full days. I could do that all in one day if I had my own jet. So it's like, okay, well saving two days, that's a lot of value, right? Is it $200,000 value? Not yet, but based upon my calculations, you need to have. You need to be making $12 million in free cash flow, like net profit in your bank account to go buy one, like entry, like, like one like his.

Yep. Six seater, like passengers. Six passengers.

That one has the seven.

Eight. Eight.

Yeah. So you need me at least 12 million. And that would be assuming you're flying a lot. Like, if you're only flying a little bit, you need to make even more so. But for me personally, I think I'd have to make like 40 to 50 million a year for me to like make sense of it. Because then at that point you're. The savings of your time is worth so much that you should actually like, economically it makes sense.

So I got to get into banking. So the money's at.

Yeah, I talked to him a little about banking because he knows that really well, they were actually going to start a banking and stock trading app right before the crash, like in 2020 and 2021 there. So he talked a little about that. We talked about bank charters, a little bit of like crypto and stuff like that, of how that would actually play into a bank and things like that. So it was interesting. Really good.

That's cool.

Yeah. And even just learning how he like set up his ETF and like the regulations around that and then even how I wanted to know about like his funding because like back to what we talked about on the last podcast of C Suite Unfiltered, we talk about like, you know, Augusta Capital. Yeah, I wanted to learn more about that and I was really helpful. That was, that was probably like a little bit of information I really needed. So I'll probably text him and ask them for like down the road when I'm ready to pull the trigger on something like that, I'd probably text him like, hey, can you give me who you used? And then actually get that information. Yeah.

Was it, would you say that your biggest takeaway. That was going to be my follow up question, like, what was the biggest takeaway from hanging out with him for a day?

Just that, like, I think too small.

Nice.

Yeah. So everything, everything should be thought bigger and like, like I can't, I can't make sense of it financially, but someone did and that means I'm not thinking big enough.

I like that.

Yeah.

Because I feel like sometimes I try to be the, the, the 10th man, if you will. Like there's a principle that if there's 10 men in a room and nine agree, one of them is assigned to be the person that disagrees. And so like last spring, not to, you know, air out the dirty laundry stuff was hitting the fan and I was like, dude, come on, Mike, let's just go. Like, you got big dreams, you got big goals. Like, just forget it. Let's push it. So I don't know, I think, yeah, thinking big. Like, I always respect people that think big. I think that's what's helped me stick around at Augusta. Like, I don't want to. I don't want to have a dead end job. And it's like, yeah, next year we might, you know, have 5% year over year growth. It's like, that's boring. Like, I could do that in any corporate job. So.

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Well, let's, let's switch it up. Just a nice harsh transition here.

Politics, did you. Nothing like a little politics to throw in there.

Did you see?

Not to go mega back to back weeks.

Oh, really? Let's go.

Did you see the new footage that was released from the January 6th insurrection?

I've seen some headlines. I haven't seen anything.

Yeah, so I'm just gonna, you know, if people haven't seen this, once again, we're talking politics, but I'm not, I'm not siding here, okay? But Tucker Carlson, who's a very polarizing political pundit, Fox News pundit, and he got exclusive footage, security footage from the Capitol security team about the January 6th insurrection. And he aired it last night on prime time on Fox News to millions of viewers live. And it very clearly shows Capitol Police just kind of hanging out, letting people walk through. And if you remember, the QAnon Shaman, as he was called. The guy with, like, the buffalo head and the face paint. Yeah. He is being in this footage. And hand up. I don't know if this is doctored or not. I'm just being 100 honest. I'm just telling you what I saw, that Capitol police were escorting him and trying to unlock doors for him to get into the Senate chamber. I don't know if this is.

So what. What's. What are people that do seem. Obviously there's a gazillion.

Right.

Theories. But what's. What's being deduced.

Yeah, what's being deduced. And to, I guess just preface a little bit more. Tucker Carlson has had a narrative since the January six insurrection about how, like, the election was rigged and that these people are innocent and blah, blah, blah. So take that as your grain of salt. But what they're saying is that they didn't commit the crimes that they're being accused of. And I'd have to look into, like, the actual trials and what they were accused of because this QAnon shaman is now in jail for four years. His trial just ended. The footage was not allowed by the judge in his trial. He's like, did he say it?

Because it was classified area, though. I. I guess showing the Capitol building interior. I don't think that's like, a very good security move. Right.

Yeah, but they open up for tours like school kids. I took a tour there when I did.

Okay. I thought that was all behind.

No, no, no. I took a tour. Tour when I was there as a kid.

I know that.

So anyways, what. What I'm trying to get at is basically people are saying, like, this was. Was it a false flag operation? Like, were the Capitol Police in on it? Like, did certain parties, whether Democrat or Republican, like, let the insurrection happen to create a narrative? And then you watch the security footage and it's like, no, like, the guy with the buffalo head in the face paint that we all saw when January six happened is literally being, like, walked around with Capitol Police, not, like, in handcuffs. Not arm and arm.

Okay, so how would. Okay, so let's. Let's follow that. That rabbit trail. Let's assume that's true. What have. What about the police guy that died? Right.

So that's. That's the big talking point now. So Chuck Schumer today was speaking on the Senate floor. Who's the. The majority or minority? He's the Democratic leader in the Senate. And he was basically saying, like, if you don't think this was nonviolent if you don't think this was an insurrection, like, ask the family of the police officer that died. And I'm like, well, that's anecdotal to an extent. Very sad that someone passed away. But I'm like, you can't just point to one death and be like, clearly this makes it a bad thing.

Right.

But it's bad when anyone dies. Yeah, but you can't be like, the whole thing was bad because one person died thing.

Let's assume they're in on the deal. They're wrong as much as the people who did. Whatever. Like, it's just because I can go rob a bank and not get in trouble for it because they just let me take the money does not mean that I am somehow off the hook for taking the money from the bank.

And I agree with that.

Right. Like, I don't care if there was no police. If you walk in and do that, you're still doing stupid stuff.

Mm.

Right. Like, I don't think it's any sort of, like, get out of jail free card. Right.

But it's more or less like, Wolf, Capitol Hill security is there. Why aren't they restraining them? Why aren't they stopping them? Why is there clear footage, once again, don't know if it's doctored, of them unlocking doors for these people to get in. Yes. Yes. The rebuttal is they broke doors and windows, dude.

Like, think about it from the. I'm just being like, please. If you're Capitol Police and you have, like, 5,000 people coming storming into the building.

Yeah.

And you have a few of you dudes, what are you gonna do? Everyone stand back. Like, you're gonna get killed.

Yeah.

Especially if you just saw one of your guys get trampled. Right. Like, I. Like, what do you think they're gonna do? Like, the guys got guns. They had guns. Right?

Yeah, yeah, of course. But the. But here's the thing. There's the footage. I think you need to see the footage, because the QAnon Shaman guy walks. The big. The big headline is he walks by nine armed officers by himself in a hallway. It's him. Two guards are, like, walking with him.

Like, separate from all the other people.

Yeah. And then there's. There's seven more officers, like, fully suited and booted, like, strapped, and they just walk through, like, right there. You could have taken him down, and he was, like, the focal point of the whole thing. He went on to the. The. The. The. You know, the big chair in the middle of the Senate floor. And, like, Set a prayer on a megaphone and like a bunch of weird stuff. Like, the guy clearly has his own issues. And I'm not defending him by any means, but I am saying the optics are weird.

So what people are saying is that they, the Democrats allowed this to happen because they knew that they'd be a bunch of Looney Tunes and so they could just make basically public. Right. Okay, that makes sense because Trump was.

Hosting a rally near Capitol Hill and was like, I know we're going to protest today, like for freedom for America, blah, blah, blah. He probably said a lot of worse things. But what they're saying is it was like the perfect play to like, Trump rallied the base.

Yeah. But this, this goes, this goes to say, to show just how stupid Trump was in that moment. Because if they knew what was about to happen, the Democrats, Trump should have been smart enough to realize, okay, like, the reason they're going to bait me into doing this is because they know that they can then use that against. Right, right. And honestly, like, the. What happened even this past year is like the midterm elections, like, was. They use that. It's like, oh, like if you've Republican, you are this. Yeah, right. And so like, Trump should have been smart enough to realize that was really doing. He was butthurt. And, and he was a child and couldn't take a loss 100%. Right. And so if he would have just shut up his mouth, they wouldn't have been able to play the card, but they would knew he was stupid enough to take the bait. Yeah. So him.

Yeah, I agree with that. I think it's just, it doesn't line up. And that's where, like, for me, I'm just like, I'm sorry, but as Americans, we can't just put our head between our legs and just like, assume that the government's telling us the truth anymore.

That's.

I just think that something happened, something fishy happened. I'm not saying who's right or wrong.

You know what, you got to give it credit to the Democrats for thinking about this. Yeah, right. Like to push it to that extent and then the next 10 years, they'll be able to use that as like the political posturing. Like, if you are red, you are this. And show up to the QAnon guy or whatever.

Yeah.

Like, hey, they, they, they played 4D chess on that one.

Yeah, totally. I mean, hey, propaganda, Right? Like, like, if all you're trying to do is like, propaganda and like fear mongering and warmongering, like they did Great.

Yeah.

Like, whoever did it. But then the interesting thing is, like, because Twitter's blowing up, you'll trust them.

To take the jab.

Yeah. But Twitter's blowing up today because this aired last night in prime time.

Did you get the vaccine?

Did I get the vaccine?

Yeah.

Oh, let's get weird.

No, I didn't either.

No, I didn't. But it's not. I don't know. I'm not a medical expert. I can say that. Like, I'm not a medical expert, but I didn't feel like I needed it and I didn't get it, and I didn't either. Like, I have freedom of choice and that was my choice. So I don't know. I, like, I don't. I don't have anything against it.

I'm pretty happy now. You see all the studies coming out about this stuff.

Weird.

Yeah.

Dude.

I said. I said give us five years before because I was being pressured because I couldn't cross the border.

Yeah.

And so all my. A bunch of my family's up there and friends and so everyone like, oh, you gotta check it, you gotta take it. There's a lot of pressure. I was like, there's not a chance of taking this thing, dude. Like, I. I only know a tiny little bit of medical research and the fact that they got this pushed through so fast. I'm sorry. Yeah. Like, I'm just not touching this. This. Yeah.

That was my reasoning. That. And then, like, if. When you look at the death rates historically compared to the common cold and flu season, I was like, it doesn't make sense for me to go get a new vaccination.

Yeah.

And that's not to say I'm. I'm not an anti vaxxer. I just want to make that very clear.

What's the difference? Anti vaxx. And just like, I didn't take this.

Well, the anti vax is like, for your kids. And like, what are the vaccinations we all get as kids now? It's like, oh, like polio and like those, those vaccinated monkeypox.

Yeah. What's funny though, you know what's funny is when they have kids, instituted the, the polio vaccine, it cured it. Yeah. It didn't just, like, give everyone a placebo effect.

Yeah. Like, if they were like, no.

Like, if you need 4,000 of them every two months, if they're like, yo.

You'Re going to get Covid and you can't walk. Yeah, sign me up. Slap that thing in my arm. And like, yeah, I'd Love to walk. Like, that's polio. But Covid's like, yeah. Death rate similar to most flus. I'm like, well, I'm young and generally healthy, so I think I should.

Conspiracies Wuhan lab. I did see some stuff.

Okay. You're getting weird with it.

Yeah. Funny is like, the guy that said it, like, okay, so we're wondering where it came from. Did it come from Wuhan? The Wuhan coronavirus novel? Yeah. Like, that's the name of the research lab. It started there. But what's funny is, like, when you're in the moment, even back then, it was like, hey, like, this is like, as much as now everyone's hindsight 20 20. And it'd be easy as, like, someone who didn't take the vaccine to be that way. It's like, in the moment, like, people were afraid. Yeah. People that I thought would, like, never take the vaccine, never wear a mask. We, like, really were, like, all for it. So it's a big social experiment. Like, I really think there's so much to learn about, like, leadership, you know, following trends, following the herd, like, propaganda, like, media, like, all of that. There's so much to be learned from that. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, I think it was. I saw a clip on Twitter. It wasn't timestamped, but I think it was recent. So I'm not going to say exactly when recent. The View, the show on tv, you know, the View just now let their audience take off their masks?

No, just now.

Just now. It was a recent clip. I don't know if it was the last, like, week or month, but it was recent. I was like, wait, wait, wait. What? So, yeah, FBI Chief Christopher Wray says China lab leak, most likely.

Oh, yeah, 100%.

See BBC News.

Yeah.

So, yeah, everyone, you know, like I said on the last.

What's weird is, like, let's say it's true, right? And like, the thing is we all made. When that was being said as, like, what could potentially happen. We all turn it into a racist thing. It's like, why, like, immediately we're judging, like, Chinese in the U.S. right? And that that was a bad thing. Like, people were, like, saying things to the people who have been in the US for years or actually, like, natives to America and born here, and yet we're, like, treating them strange. But, like, it's just somehow we make everything like a political or racial issue. It's like, no, no, it's a lab. It create a virus that wasn't supposed to be created and brought into Mankind. And now it did. Like, can we just attack that? Problems of the fact that Chinese and it's stupid.

Yeah, well, you know, I think Trump made it a little racist. Yeah, I feel like we're gonna call spade a spade.

He went a little Chinese.

He went a little overboard. A little overkill.

Oh, man. Speaking of it, we start talking about immigration. What are your thoughts on immigration?

What's that?

So are you of the belief that we need to, like, ship people out of here? Because I heard just speaking like, the headlines. Trump had his thing, whatever, the other day, and one of his big points is, like, he's gonna have the biggest deportation in the United States has ever seen him ship all these people back to their countries because they're letting insane asylums and jails. They're emptying them in the U.S. your thoughts on that?

I am. I'm pro dreamer.

Okay.

I'm pro dreamer.

Okay. Don't get technical with me, dude. Do you think we should deport people or not?

Yeah. Okay, so this is what I'm thinking. I'm. I'm pro. Who.

Who's. Who's against dreamers? Like, that's such a dumb thing to say.

But. No, people are saying that there are elements of that bill that could get dreamers kicked out.

Okay. So dreamers. Can you define.

Yeah. Technical term? I just wanted to support people, bro. No, dude, I got.

No.

Generally speaking. No. If I had to. If I had to hop back.

So a dreamer is what they come here for.

What a dreamer is when they're. I believe their parents crossed international borders illegally and they were born in this country, and now they are technically a citizen because they were born on this land.

Yeah.

So I'm pro. But that's. That's like a. That's usually the first thing people bring up when they talk about immigration. They're. What about the dreamers? Because it's like they were born here. It's not their choice. Yeah, Right. So that's. So that's why I wanted to say I'm pro dreamer. Okay.

So if. If someone comes over, they're born, their kids two or three years old now, do you think you should send the parent back?

Not necessarily. It depends on the context. I am 1000% pro your immigration. Like, as long as there are correct policies in place to immigrate properly to where you would get an itin number, Right. The tax number or Social Security number. And then you obviously, like, pay your taxes, you get the right to vote. But it's all the loopholes that people can Flow through and they get status as an American, they get benefits as an American, but they don't pay taxes. And there's, there's just. And tax isn't the big thing. And that's. Everyone wants to be like, well, just because they don't pay their fair share, you want to kick them out. No, but it's just a standard by which all native born Americans have to follow. Like When I turned 18, I got inheritance and I had to pay tax on it. I was like, what? My grandpa can't give me money? And they're like, nope, you have to pay tax. I'm like, but why? Right, so.

Well, there's like the reports of like the hospitals down next, the border going bankrupt stuff because like people go into the emergency room and they get health care with no, you know, they don't pay anything.

Yeah, yeah. I believe in obviously like borders. I do believe in borders and I believe in like national sovereignty.

You just turn into believing. This is like a very, very, very deep.

I believe, I believe, I believe in national sovereignty. Okay, but, and, but I do think that immigration should be allowed. I think people should be able to cross borders however they. I think the proper channels need to be gone through in order to gain citizenship and gain benefits.

So what are the proper channels? Like do they need me a certain amount of money?

Well, I think it's the like the testing process, which we do.

What's the testing process?

Yeah, you do have to take a citizenship test.

What's that?

So I'm. Dude, most Americans would fail it now. It's like American history.

Yeah, I know.

That's like American laws.

Is that all the thing that you think should be like the steps of the process you mentioned?

I, I mean, I guess.

What's the process? Do you just need to know who the president was?

Like, I'd fail, dude, Honestly, I don't know. I mean this is a loaded question. You're just throwing it at me. I unfiltered.

I love it. But like what's that process look like? We can all argue about whether or not we send the people back, but what's the process look like for someone that wants to, to immigrate? What that. Is it based on money?

I would say it is proof of. So there should be some sort of standardized test, which I know standardized testing isn't ideal, but it's the best thing we have.

Testing?

What testing? Well, I think they need to be tested on certain American laws, certain American history. Assuming I'm assuming we're talking about immigration to America. So I would say there should be a standardized test like the one now about American history, American law, American society.

Should that be?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

Well, we don't have a nationalized language, though. So that was the thing Trump wanted to do. He was like, I want to make English our national language. And I'm like, I mean, it makes sense. But then everyone was like, that's racist. I'm like, well, yeah, but like, we all speak it.

Okay. So you gotta know about the presidents and the laws of our land.

Yeah. And then I think here's my secondary qualification. What if you're sick in terms of like, mentally, physically.

Physically, you're sick. You have. You have cancer.

Well, that's. I mean. Okay, listen to my second. This is my second caveat.

There's no way to win this.

Let's say I know you're good. If you pass, you're gonna cancel. If you pass the test, you're good. Second. My second quality.

And the test of the law one.

The law, slash history, slash.

Why did you do a history? Dude, I have horrible history.

If you want to get an American, get me deported.

Okay, sorry. Go number two.

Yeah, 100%.

That's my goal, actually get my private debt after all. Yeah.

Is my second criteria would be some sort of proof of education and. Or trade. I think just some sort of verification there that you can. That you can contribute to the economy.

But what if they just were born in a place.

The education online school, man. Like, we could be very loose about what those requirements.

What if they're so poor they don't have any Internet?

I mean, I don't know. That's the thing. We gotta create proper channels. I don't know, dude. I can't solve this problem.

Yeah, yeah. You know, what if. Classic.

I won the lottery. I was born in the US what.

If they had a course?

Yeah, there you go.

Not a test, but a course.

Yeah, of course.

You educate yourself to a certain level. Then it's a matter of like. Well, are we, you know, take stripping out their. Their native, you know, what's it called, culture and things like that. But like, if you want to get in, you have to take a course and you have to pass a test. And that course is. Is made up of things not just about history, in my opinion. Yeah, but it's like, like not IQ stuff either. That's. That's what. You gotta be careful. Like if someone doesn't have the resources or they're not, you know, privileged to have certain things in life, like, should they not be allowed to come. But then also is like, anyone that wants to, can they come? Right. Is it just a matter of wanting to be here? I don't know.

Yeah. I think my view on this is too restrictive to the fact that I live in the United States, so I don't know how life exists outside of the United. Like, I've traveled and seen other countries. I've been impoverished countries, I've been to other first world, second world, you name it. But I think I don't know the systems that they follow. So it's like, how do we verify information from someone else if we don't even know what their system is? Because for me, it's like, okay, if I wanted to immigrate to France, and they were like, we need proof of education.

Cool.

I have an associate's degree. I have a bachelor's degree. I have physical papers and emails that provide that education. But, like, in another country, especially an impoverished country, like, how do they prove they have an education if that's the criteria?

What about, like, having a plan? What about in this course? They have to create, like, projections, not just financial ones, but then, like, what are they going to learn? What education is, they're going to. What relationships are they going to build, where they plan to get a job? Like, just, what's your plan? So there's like, showing up and then, of course, like, it's like if you. If you pack for a trip and you just throw stuff together, you always forget things. Like. But if you have a plan in place and you get ready for it and you pack correctly, you're probably gonna have a more successful trip. Yeah. So why not, like, make this course where. It's like part of immigration is you have to create a plan next five years, and then you're gonna have a check in every year to see where you're at on this path and actually be required that if you don't check in on an annual basis, you're out.

So, like, probation, kind of.

Yeah. It's like, look, here's your plan. You got to go execute against it if the plan is not good enough. And it's like, well, I'm gonna go on the streets and, like, you know, get high. Well, you're not getting in. Right. And then it's a matter of what's a contributing member of society and who gets in, who gets out based upon the. That. But, like, I think someone is having a good plan and then having, you know, reasonable benchmarks that they have to, you know, hit those on. Yeah.

So create a 12 month roadmap, a profit and loss statement. A marketing plan. Yeah. Like are you going to use, do.

You plan to get married?

Yeah.

Kids like have a plan in place, you know, what are you going to do? Like these are open ended questions, but what are you going to do in the event of getting sick and not having insurance? What's your plan? Like I don't even care what the plan is. But this have one.

Yeah.

And they've thought it through. Right. Because otherwise if you're only processing get across the border, well then you're going to forget stuff. You're going to forget like you're not going to do well. You're typically going to be much more reliant on social systems. So I don't know that I'm probably completely wrong. There's all sorts of holes in that.

Dude.

That's interesting. I think it's, I think it's, it's, it's a good idea. But I think the amount of labor that would go into that and infrastructure. This is a more correct term.

We're building a wall.

Yeah, dude. I mean I'm aware.

Can't we build a college like a facility? Take one of these colleges that are bankrupt, throw it into becoming a place where you learn, educate yourself, then beam out Internet using Starlink to be able to get Internet across the whole place. And look, if you want to sign up to come to America legally, you pass this course.

And now here's the, the, the big question, right? This is who pays for it? The American citizens pay for it.

Today it's a whole lot cheaper than guarding the border. Yeah.

I mean, and probably.

But deporting them, you know, cost. How much cost to deport somebody? Probably a lot do by the time you come and storm into their house, you go through all the child protection services to get their kids and all the rest of it. Then you house, feed and shelter them until they're in like in holding camps and then you ship them back like it's expensive.

Can't do the math on that. Good thing we're not using private jets. Just say that.

Oh man. But anyways. But you know, you know why I think we should do that? It's because we need labor in America. Agreed.

Well, the whole world is going to need labor.

Like we're all, we're also focused on entitlement that we skip the lowest labor of lowest levels of labor. And that's why we're in this crunch of finding laborers and finding people to work and do quote unquote, menial tasks because no one wants to do it. And so we're going to create a bunch of people that are dependent on social systems that don't want to get started and work their first career. First part of their career.

Yeah, there was, this was, this was a while back, but I did a, I did a little bit of digging on this for like a college paper or something back when I was just getting like my associates and there was a gentleman who owned a farm in Southern California and his whole thing was like, you know, you get all these people saying like, the, the immigrants are taking our jobs.

Right.

And he was like, I will pay you a livable wage if you come work on my farm and I will personally call ICE and have my workers deported. And like, no one took him up on it because he's in Southern California. He's in the desert. It was like an orange farm. He's like, no one's gonna work in 100, 110 degree weather working on my farm for 12 hours a day in the summer.

Right.

And he was like, if you come down here, I will personally have these people deported. But, but Americans don't want to work those hard labor jobs. So I do agree with you there.

Yeah. And yet we as consumers want the, the grapes from his vineyard at such a low price. So consumer, consumerism has pushed. Made what the problem. Yeah. Right. Because if we want things cheaper and faster, that comes at a cost.

Yeah.

And so we've just pushed it to the point where cheap labor, we, no one wants to do it. And we now have restricted the supply of cheap labor by focusing so much on restricting these immigrants and stuff. And so in my mind, it's like, have a good plan. You come in, you can work, you work for a few, you know, five, 10 years at lowest level because the rest of society needs it. It allows the American economy to be able to continue to grow and scale.

So yeah, that's my two cents.

Dude. You just created the 3F program for immigrants. If you're listening, you don't know what the 3F program is at Augusta. We've got 3F program, franchise fee, forgiveness, immigration, IFA, dude.

Yeah. Immigration forgiveness plan.

If you work for Augusta for two years, you can start a franchise, no money down.

If you work from, if you work, if you have. Let's go. Program is like, though, if you have a sponsor, you have a company that you'll work for. Right. And then you go back to Mexico. But like, yeah, I like it.

Mr. Mr. Andy's goes to Washington.

Yeah. Right.

Let's go pitch this thing, dude.

Oh, man.

Gotta get some bipartisan buy in. It's a pretty good plan, I'd say.

I think courses like. Oh yeah.

I'm stoked for the comment that's gonna say somehow we're racist.

Oh, 100 we are.

We only got one dislike on the last video.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

Only you can see.

I literally said make America great again on the thumbnail. I was like, that's at least four or five dislikes.

That person probably didn't watch the video.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, stole the thumb. Like, I hate that.

That's the worst. So I must be bad.

It's red.

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Speaking of consumerism transitioning a little bit, I didn't have this planned, but have you seen the ground zero for cobalt mines?

No, what's that?

So cobalt mines are basically everything and it's ground zero for batteries, cobalt. So your iPhone, your Tesla, how they get the cobalt in these third, second and third world countries. There was this guy who's an expert on mining and, and how this, the supply chains work. He was on Rogan, Joe Rogan. Oh, I shout out my peer.

I saw this dude. Yeah, I saw coffee. Zillow was on back in the day.

Yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, that was lit. I saw that post. So he was saying that like they basically take these workers and it's like if you, you make money, if you find cobalt.

Yeah.

And so they just, they P for P, baby. Yeah.

P for C. Pay for cobalt.

So. So these workers just flood these mines with no safety gear whatsoever.

I heard this.

They're in there and just they're like for us, I mean in America with jeans and a T shirt for them. They're in just their normal daily garb and no protective shoes, gloves, respirators, glasses. Not even like good mining equipment like chisels and hammers. And they just dig in these trenches all day and night, breathing in whatever's in the earth.

Buried.

And they get buried, they get crushed, they break hands, toes. And it's like that people are like I'm a climate activist and they have a Mac, right. Look like the battery in this was mined somewhere. The components of it. So yeah, consumerism is really the detriment of our growing society, sadly. And population decline is coming. Shout out, Elon. But dude, we're getting weird out here on this.

AI and just.

Yeah, AI will solve all our problems.

Have a robot that gets all the cobalt much faster. But it cost the robots.

He'd self supply too. We probably teach it to charges cost.

The cost of the. Of the. Of the robots too higher now compared to the cheap labor over there.

It's like that art piece. You ever hear about this art piece in Europe? It was a. It's like an articulating arm that was designed.

That was so cool.

Yeah.

The grease back in. Yeah, that was so cool.

Hydraulic fluid.

That was genius.

So it's this articulating arm.

If you've never seen it.

Yeah. That was intentionally designed to leak hydraulic fluid.

Yeah.

And the way the arm articulated was to just scoop hydraulic fluid back towards.

It because it was like running away.

And the art piece is designed to eventually fail.

Right.

So the machine just works itself to death.

Yeah. Dude, that was a. That was such a cool thing.

Yeah, super cool.

I love that stuff.

Yeah, I was very intrigued by that.

That's 40 chest that, dude.

Like, let's go 100%. Yeah, but that's. That's. I feel like that's consumerism.

It was like. It was like the saddest thing. Yeah. I think I watched the clip of it either dying or close to dying. And it was because the way like it splattered the hydraulic fluid on the glasses, it literally looked like someone worked themselves to death. Yeah. It was crazy.

It was wild.

It's cool.

Well, onto something lighter.

Okay.

This just dropped this week. IPhone 14, new color.

Oh, really?

Augusta?

Yellow. Yellow. I saw that.

You getting one?

I thought this was like a while back. Do they advertise?

I don't know. I saw an ad for it.

Okay. I just remember seeing the yellow.

I'm like on the website it still says new, so.

But see, you cover? No, because I put cover on it. Right?

Yeah.

So, you know, I already have a yellow iPhone. It just happens to be five years old.

I got black. I got black, but I got yellow buttons on the side. And then I got, you know, a gusto mp.

I want that. Is that sticker?

Yeah.

Sticky.

Yes.

Nobody want to take the thing off the back. You did it.

Yeah. Do you want it?

I want the people.

We don't have any More out of the deal.

Dude, I'll give you 10 bucks for that. Bucks?

Yeah, I was thinking 20.

I literally bought that and I'm giving you $10 to get it back.

I'll give it to you.

Let's go.

D. That's a full one.

Oh yeah, we have no more of those.

I, I thought, I don't know iPhone but the, the yellow, I thought it looked cool. Yeah, kind of a gross yellow but hey we like them all.

Imagine.

But there are some, some articles out there about iPhone. Do you think that iPhone is lacking innovation? Like we're at the iPhone 15s coming out later this year.

Yeah but the like the S curve of innovation, they're at the top of their peak which is high profits, low innovation because like change making any changes where they're currently at is going to hurt profits. Right. So.

Any company that is not growing very quickly. They're not growing very fast by the way. Yeah, they're growing like 6 to 10% in most their categories. Some of them are declining. So they're, they're milking for it's for all it's worth. They're doing stock buybacks. They're doing like you start buying back the stock when you don't know what to do with the cash. Right. And so you either innovate and grow revenues because you know what to do to build new products to do that, or you buy back stock and reward the investors because you don't know what to do with cash. And so.

I think Apple is going to be like any other company and they're going to fall behind and in 10, 15 years we're like remember Apple, they were so awesome. And then they either a, they figure out they're on the downtrend of, of the S curve.

IBM.

Yeah. Or, and they rebound because they're in such a good cash position. Some like IBM.

Other companies like IBM that were so big they have their debt laden. Right. It's very difficult to turn things around. Someone like Apple, they have debt because they have a whole bunch of bonds but they also have so much cash. And so it's interesting the fact that as long as there's someone who gets in there that can see the five year to ten year plan, that's, that's when they'll they the opportunity, the potential to ramp up, back up. Like why aren't they the ones doing self driving cars? Why is Tesla around? Like why do they either buy them out? Like it was very possible if, if, if five years ago they bought, they could have Bought Tesla out for like $20 billion if they would have made the offer. Yeah, they could have got all that technology, kind of got Elon on board. Like, can you imagine Elon being the CEO of Tesla? Like, or of Apple?

Let's go.

Right. So nuts. Yeah. You wouldn't even have to buy Twitter. You could just build his own thing inside of Apple.

Twitter would come pre installed on your phone. No, it's like the YouTub YouTube album all over again.

But like, you know, the bottom line is they focus to being driven by their investors. And that's what, that's why CRMs like I we started Copilot. It's like the past three years, they're all milking for all it's worth. All. And it's all investor driven. And so when, when the, the vision of the company gets more focused on the investor instead of the consumer, that is the moment it begins to decline. And whether or not it's in three to five years and that shows up on the balance sheet and the profit and loss. Because if no one cares until everyone's Apple's great, they've already passed the point of lack of innovation like years ago. Like, I would, I would beg to argue that when Steve Jobs died, they stopped innovating. Yes, they've created other products, but innovation is not necessarily output of products. He had the roadmap for them for the next five to 10 years. When that's over and there's no one else to pick up the torch of innovation and you simply become an arbitrage for financial means, you'd lost the ability to be able to take that next step in the S curve.

Yeah, well, Wozniak made the iPhone.

Yeah.

I'm in that camp.

He's a funny character, dude.

I like he right feel I like him. I give him credit for the iPhone.

Really? Yeah. I don't know enough about it to like say it's.

It's an interesting dichotomy I think to baseball.

My knowledge, he. He made it and Steve Jobs sold it.

Pretty much.

Right.

Steve Job was the, was the vision.

Yeah.

But Wozniak was the engineer. Visionary engineer.

You need both, right? 100%. Right? Yeah. So I would give them both credit. Number one, Wozniak for realizing that he can't go take it to take it to market. And this goes back to like, you know, with me, Kevin, like, he's a Steve Jobs. You've got to figure out your Wozniak. Because if Steve Jobs would have gone forward, he wouldn't be Able to create a product and delivered on what he promised. Right.

So your jobs is Liz. Your Wozniak, or Liz and I are kind of co. Wasniacs.

Co Ozniacs.

I don't know. I. I would look at more as, like, not looking as a person. I think most companies don't have a Wozniak and Steve Jobs. Right. They have typically visionary and then a group of executives or managers that make up the operations. Right, right. And so, like, it's been. You know, my process over the past few years have been easy, and that is like, I'm. I can't focus on operations. I need to focus on promotion and vision like that. If I. If I'm getting into operations, I'm usually messing someone up and it's not my place. And so I've tried to get better at just realizing that and, like, trying to delegate more. But I would say people like you 100 are my Wozniak. It's like, I need someone that is really good, operationally, sticks to the systems, like, builds things. Once I, like, have the plans, like, I can come up with the plans, but, like, after that, I need to step away. Otherwise I get in the way of people like you.

I don't want to. I don't want to, you know, get out our secret sauce, but people were asking a lot of questions about something today at Augusta, and I was like, I'm just making a template for this.

Oh, yeah.

I was just like, I'm just gonna make a template because so many people.

Are internal for a little bit.

So many people were asking questions, and I was like, if I have to give this information to someone else, yeah, I'd rather just write it down so I don't have to say it 10 times.

Yeah.

And then a bunch of other people started asking, so I was like, here's a template. Yeah, just get it done.

Yeah, let's keep that internal for a bit. Fair enough. After Springer.

I like that. It's a good idea. Well, let's wrap it up. Good pod. Not financial advice.

Happy birthday.

Thank you, sir.

Dude, that might be our best one yet.

That was good.

On your birthday.

That was your birthday.

I didn't buy you anything.

Sorry.

No, it's fine.

I don't buy anything. I'm going actually right after this to my nephew's birthday. I don't buy him a gift.

Sarah, dude getting married. Let me tell you, all birthday gifts taken care of.

Oh, they're taken care of. Why?

Sarah just says all the birthday gifts.

Oh, yes.

My God. Just Got?

Well, yeah. I mean, but you have a budget for it.

I mean gifting like 20, 30 bucks.

Yeah, yeah.

That's what we try to do.

Yeah. You know what, dude? I had, I had this revelation. So I have, I have never like. So going in the jet thing kind of like I don't really need the jet. Especially for the next five to 10 years. Because this is the thing. Even if you have the money, you got to travel a lot. If you're only traveling once or twice a month even, it's not worth it. You need to be traveling a lot. Anyways, I came to the conclusion that actually want a nice house. Oh yeah, my guy. Now I want to build a house though where it's like small living quarters, big area for entertainment.

Yeah.

You know why? I don't two things. One, I want to be like call the whole team over for like a team team thing.

Yeah. Just love it.

Right. Second thing is I would want to have all my nieces and nephews around. Yeah. And like parties thrown at my uncle Mike's house.

Yeah, dude, that's clutch. I love that.

Even if I'm not there, like I host the party and I can even like, you know, give my brother or sister like hey, here's the keys. Have the kid's birthday at my house.

Yeah, dude, I like that.

And like people love it. Like that's what I would love to do.

You seem like an ocean view guy to me.

Or a water. Yeah, dude, I want lots of space. Either mountain. I only see mountain on top of mountain scene far away. Ideally place like Chuck in that drive we see really far across the water.

Yeah, I love that. That's great. So you're not financial advice.

Sure, let's roll with that because I didn't think of anything.

Get a nice house.

Yeah, yeah. Non financial advice. You go ahead, see if anything better comes.

All right. Here's my non financial advice. I'm giving all credit to Marcus Roberts.

Okay. Yeah.

Great colleague of mine. Yeah, dude. Awesome dude. He showed this to me. So this is. This isn't even really like advice. This is my not financial advice is have a good laugh and you need to go look up David Goggins birthday wish to Joe Rogan. It is hilarious.

This is like a couple years back. Oh yeah, yeah. I have seen this. It's hilarious. It's great. He read it. Joe Rogan read it.

Marcus sent it to me again this morning and I was like this. That's all I wanted for my birthday. It's, it's, it's Joe Rogan on his podcast reading David Goggins birthday text to him. Just, if you haven't seen it, go watch it. It is fantastic.

That's awesome. Let's go. Okay. I'm going to stick with like, yeah, buy nice house, cool down the road. That's what I'll waste some money on. Yeah, I don't. I don't think I've really wasted money on anything yet. Like, one day I would do that before, like a big car, but I feel like I could do that for way less. Well, I know I could. Best than a really, really jet.

Oh, totally.

If I spent $800,000, I can make a nice house. Yeah, right. Don't need a lot of living space, small bathroom. Don't care. Big open loft.

Yeah.

Games area. Lots of lounges, places to sit, like big couches. Let's go.

Yeah. Skee ball or air hockey?

What's skeeball?

You roll the ball and it's got all the circles and it jumps up and.

Oh, dude, that seems more novel. So I'm going to go with the producer.

She's skeeball queen.

I. I bet right now $100.

Let's go.

I would beat you in the first match.

Me or the producer?

The producer.

Oh, dude, she's the queen of skeeball.

That's the one with jump.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'd be $100.

Oh, no. She crushed a ski ball.

$100. First game. I'm a. I crush. I crush.

All right.

I'm confident.

Very confident.

Haven't played in 10 years, but I'm confident, bro. I still remember I was good at that game.

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