C. Suite Unfiltered: Most Stressful Jobs in the U.S.

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Let's go. As I'm thinking about it, there are certain parts of urology where I could see there's definitely some stress. Oh, man.

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Why do you want.

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This forces you not to do that.

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I think the camera makes it look closer than we really are. I don't know. We're pretty close.

Pretty.

It's like you're right on the. You're right on the edge of where it's, like, uncomfortable.

Yeah, a little bit. That's all right.

It's all good, I guess. Like, the iced coffee hour is probably twice the width.

Oh, easily. It's a big table. Dude, it is snowing like crazy.

It's thick out there, bro. I wasn't able to go to work today. Yeah, I just worked from here.

I, I, I, I went into the office. Yes. My wife was not super happy about that, but producer did not improve. Yeah, I gotta, you know, I just had to get after it. But I, I was thinking about it, and I was like, man, we don't do snow removal anymore at the Bellingham shop. But, dude, it's brutal. Like, I guess I just didn't think about in the moment, it's just like, yeah, we do snow removal, so let's get it. But, like, shoveling my driveway, I was like, dude, this is intense. So shout out all the guys who do snow removal. Honestly, it's insane.

I think part of it is just, like, repetition. Like, it's like people say it's we. We would go to Arizona in the middle of the summer. It's so hot. If you live in it, it's not so bad. Like, if you have multiple snow events, it starts to get easier and easier. Just get used to it. And even with the cold, like a couple weeks ago, it was like 32, 33 degrees. I was like, man, it's so cold. It's like 15 degrees now. It's like, ah, it's not so bad.

I think it's just like, you get kind of. Get used to it.

Yeah. Yeah.

All right. I don't have a truck anymore, though, so I can't drive anywhere. It's stupid.

Yeah, I got. I got a nice truck. I'm thinking about buying Liz's truck.

I know. So that would be the epic truck for this environment.

It's a pretty sweet truck.

Navi tires.

Yeah. So the Department of Labor.

Yes.

I don't know if you heard about this. They released a power rankings, if you will. They ranked. It was like almost 900 jobs. So they categorized all the jobs within the United states in a 900 categories, and they ranked them from most stressful to least stressful.

Okay. So I'm going to guess highest stress. We're going to go with something like emergency room or nurse. Something's got to be somewhere up there. And then like, either not operating room. Those are chill emergency room stuff. So that would be one. The other one would be like traffic control. Air traffic control.

Mm. Okay. Yeah.

There's really stressful and like, lowest stress is going to be like, oh, man, that's tough. Okay, so give me. Give me the highest stress.

So I got. I got the top. Top stress one. So I got the top 10 here. If I can find another article, maybe we can go through all of them. But number 10. So you were. You were kind of in the ballpark with number 10. I think is similar to what you're thinking. It is a nurse. Nurse. Anesthesia.

I don't know if I believe that, dude.

Really?

When I was in the. Or anesthesia, like, the one guy fell asleep. I have pictures of this guy during a. We were doing a procedure on someone's hernia, and he was asleep, like out cold. And the guy is getting paid out to wazoo. He's an anesthesiologist. I can't believe that was very stressful for him.

Yeah.

Taking a little snoozy. Snooze, yeah. That's nurse anesthesiologist, my foot. Why? Because when people wake up, they hit them like, what's up?

I don't know. It says these. These nurses administer anesthesia, monitor patients vital signs and oversee patient recovery from anesthesia. Possibly an assistant role to anesthesiologists or surgeons. So it's like the assistant to anesthesiologists, which. Which I'm not discrediting.

The doctors. The doctors, they might have easy, because they're just there, they're saying. And, like, maybe the nurses set up stuff, but, like, I can't say they're being high stress. Come on, dude. You're knocking someone out.

So they gave every job a score out of 100. Stress level 96.

Okay.

All right. Because we're in the top 10.

96. The highest.

That. Well, that's. That's number 10. Nursing.

Oh, oh, oh.

So we're gonna go 10, nine.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

So stress level out of 196. Stress level.

All right. Yeah.

Then they also give the median annual salary, so that. I think that'd be interesting. What do you think median annual salary is for?

85.

A nurse anesthesia is $195,000.

What?

Median. That's your median.

What?

Yeah, so you probably do have entry level at 95, 90, 100. But you got people making 300 plus 400 plus.

Is it a nurse anesthesiologist?

That's just what it says. Nurse anesthesia.

Oh, man. Yeah. I wonder, though, if it's like a nurse practitioner.

That's kind of what I'm thinking. But Anyway, that's number 10.

Okay.

That's not even that stressful.

Get a mill.

Yep. All right. A first line supervisor of a retail sales.

What?

So frontline first line, I guess.

How does this compare with, like, life changing alt. Like, life risk. Like, I guess they're not taking in, like, risk of life. Yeah. They're taking, like, emotional support. These are the people who need emotional support. Animals. No.

Yeah. They definitely can't be thinking about, like, life and death. It says on top of obligations to supervise our other duties and may include purchasing, budgeting, and accounting. Like, is that like.

How does that compare with, like, a logging. A logger, where like, every day you go to work, it's like, good luck coming home. That's a little more stressful stress level.

96. Median annual salary.

Which one was this again?

This was the supervisor of retail sales.

Like 50 grand.

39.

Yeah.

39K. Next.

Not worth it. Not worth a 96.

So I think this falls into what you said, which is air traffic control. They said public safety, telecommunicators.

Yeah, yeah.

So that's going to be transit, public safety, communicating. 91 1. Dispatch bus dispatch. Information regarding crimes, threats, disturbances, you know, that kind of front line.

Two different cat. Two different categories. Physical stress and emotional stress.

This is all of it. I feel like.

I don't know, dude. Physical stress. Physical stress needs to take a little higher weight in this category. Yeah, like, if you're gonna die today, I feel like that's a higher stress. Like, police officers better be in the top list here.

We'll see. All right. All right, so that is a stress level of 97. So we just went up a point. Median annual salary, 46k.

Okay.

For public safety telecommunicators. All right, you have the medical background, so you're going to have to tell me to say this first one.

I know.

The second one, hit me up. What do we call it? What's.

Obstetricians and gynecologists.

Obstetricians.

How in the world is that stressful?

Dude, it's super stressful. They give medical care to pregnancy and childbirth.

I know that, but, like, how is that super stressful? Like, I guess if a birth goes bad, but you do it every day, multiple times, and, like, you've seen everything.

We've had 8 billion babies.

I know you think it's not so stressful. I just feel like if you're gonna die, your stress levels should be, like, a little higher weight than just.

This is why I want to bring this to you, because I feel like you're just gonna rip it apart, which is what I love, but Shout out the department of Labor. This is what our taxes go to, folks.

And actually, I felt like that was my. The most fun thing I did in healthcare was delivering baby. Dude, that's fun, dude. Like, the closest thing you get to see, like, you go, like, the first breath. It's crazy.

That was really cool. I got to hold one of my nieces when she was, like, an hour old, and it was, like, one of the weirdest things, like, in a cool way. Like, it was weird, but it was. It was, like, emotional and very exciting. I don't know.

So.

Yeah, but. So there you go. So their stress level. 97 again. All right, $208,000.

They deserve it.

Median.

Like, if you're going to have options of, like, how much your doctor's going to pay when you're giving birth to your children. Like, I want them paid well, that is a position you want paid well.

What's your stress level at right now? Like, just like, hey, my wife's giving birth. But like, just.

Can you quick check?

See, so I've been asked this before because I've done it a few times. I could not deliver a child by myself, just to be clear, so.

Well, you could.

No, but, like, it's not even about stress. It's about skill. Like, if something went wrong, I wouldn't know what to do. So, like, all the ones I did, four, maybe five, that was a part of in Africa, and they all went super smooth. Like. Yeah, in an Africa, dude. Just to be clear, having a child is not high on the stress level because they come in, they knock out a baby, and a couple hours they're gone. Yeah. Like, they're working the next day. Geez, it's crazy.

Yeah.

Like, they would literally come in, be like, hey, I'm gonna. I'm gonna have my kid. And they hop in there, and a couple hours later they're gone. Yeah.

It's kind of like a nature versus nurture aspect.

Yeah. But they, like, based upon what. What all the other people were saying, like, the volunteers and stuff, like, a lot of them did pass away because they didn't have the care that if there was any sort of a complication. But like, over there, there's pound babies out like machines, dude. I'm telling you, man. It's like you give birth, you wash them up, give them back to the mom. Like, we're talking like an hour max, dude. Yeah. And then they're out.

Jeez, that's wild. Do a little different. It's interesting that you say you couldn't perform a birth on. On your own because.

No, I'd just be completely out of my wheel, dude.

Yeah. I don't know. My. So my wife and I. My. One of my sisters, she is a critical care nurse. She's. She's awesome. She's amazing what she does. And she watches a lot of Grey's Anatomy. If you know good medical.

That was what I.

My wife and I were also big Grey's Anatomy fans back in the day. I'll admit it's pretty good show, but I.

Okay, it's like Shark Tank for. For medicals.

I'm gonna. I'm gonna go out here on a limb.

Okay.

And look like an idiot. Not now, because I don't watch Crazy Dad. In my peak Grey's Anatomy days, I was like, dude, I could do a tracheotomy. It's like, you just tilt the head at the right angle, find a soft spot, and send it.

See, that would be stressful for the nurse anesthesiologist. He's like, yeah, the surgeon, he just comes in here. We watch a couple Grayson Atom in the back, and we're popping into people's.

Just say 10 blade. And you're good like that? Oh, yeah. This guy, he knows he's good. He's Jill.

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What do you think? Okay, realistically, what do you think is, like, the highest level medical emergency that you could confidently perform?

Oh, dude. Not very high. Now. I think you've been out for, like, there's a reason why you have a practice. Like, you got to know what you're doing. Like, I don't remember half of my medical terms. I don't. I don't remember half my organic chemistry. And, like, the drugs. Like, I used to know drugs, like, the back of my hand, like, the organic compounds. And, like, I could draw them for you. I have no idea, dude. It's like math. Like, if you don't use calculus, it's gone.

That's fair.

So I literally don't remember. Like, I. I'll still remember this day. Like, I. I'll be like, okay, this certain muscle. And I'm like, man, I knew that, like, the back of my hand. And now I'm like, I know I haven't used it in, like, a solid, what, eight, nine years? Like, not anything. Like, I use the guy. Like, the posters in the wall with the Skeletons and the muscles, like, I knew it all. Like the back of my hand, now it's just like nothing. So, like the highest level, dude, is not high, like suturing.

It's like stitches.

I used to be good at stitches. Now I haven't done one so long. I would be like, I'd be worried for my patient. Gee, you're gonna bleed out. Like, let me give it a shot. But not very high level.

Yeah. Hopefully the Washington State lni isn't listening to this. Yeah, I think it's.

I think in case of emergency, we'd figure out what the answer is.

Well, when I. When I cut my finger on the bricksaw, do you remember this? It was like my second year working at Augusta and I could. I could see the bone.

Yeah.

Thankfully I was wearing gloves, but it ripped, it shredded right through the top side of my finger. So there's nothing there. It's just skin and bone.

Yeah.

And I remember Liz sends you to go pick me up, obviously. And you're like, hey, do you want to, you know, go to urgent care? You want to go to the emergency room? I was like, well, I called my sister, who's a nurse.

Please don't tell me. I said, I'll suture it up.

My sister advised that I go to the emergency room to make sure none of my tendons were messed up or that I had a fracture in my fingers. And you were like, dude, I could suture it up.

I distinctly remember you saying that. And I wasn't offended. I was like, I trust you to suture it up. Like, if we were in the wilderness.

100%, I think back then I could have probably done it. That was six, seven, what, six years ago.

I was like, yeah, like five. Like four or five.

So bad. That's so funny.

If we were in the wilderness. 100% confidence.

That was back before I got. I got sued by lni and all the rest of it. So now I'm smarter.

I'm literally in the truck with my shirt wrapped around my bleeding hand, just like holding it up. And you're like, dude, I could price.

Come walking in the emergency room. Like, there's thread from your finger to my hand. I'm like, I was trying, dude.

Thankfully, the homeowner was like the most chill guy, cuz he owned a construction company up in Canada. It was a vacation.

Was he there?

Yeah, he was like, because I went back there. Well, I went back like two days later. Just do some touch up stuff. And one of our other co workers, Fenton, he went and wrapped it up for me. And I went like two days later. And the homeowner was like, yeah, I figured. He's like, I own a construction company. When I see tools just laying around and the guy disappears, I know something happened.

He was like, so chill about it, and he gave me like a. I.

Remember, like, meeting your mom at the ER and everything. That was their first time meeting my guy.

Yeah. So that's how we do it.

Oh, man.

All right, back to the list. We're staying in the same field. Number six is acute care nurses.

Yeah, that's all I was thinking. Yeah, I'd say that. High stress level. Definitely higher than the Doctors.

Stress level 98.

I give them. They deserve it.

Provide advanced nursing care for patients with acute conditions like heart attacks, respiratory or shock. And I believe this is actually what my sister does. Like, she's. She's been at our local hospital ever since she got out of, like, medical school, nursing school, and like, got just entry level job at the hospital and just has worked way up over the last, like 12 years.

Yeah, see, I want. I want to do emergency surgery if I wasn't going to do brain surgery.

Yeah.

Because I either wanted them dying, like, whereas, like life or death, or I wanted it to be where no one else could do the procedure.

Yeah, that's fair.

Median annual salary for acute care nurses.

Ooh, it's gotta be good. Like 150.

No, half that.

Really.

77.

Okay. See, this nurse anesthesiologist thing, I don't know if I buy that. The anesthesiologists themselves only probably make 200 on average, max.

So I think that's a typo.

Yeah, well, we'll see. This is. Hey, this is from the Department of Labor. I'm referencing the whole story from USA Today. So. It is.

Yeah. See USA Today. It's from the Department of Labor, usa Yesterday. Okay, fair enough.

All right, number five. You actually employ this position?

What? Oh, a tree stuff.

No.

You'Re thinking physical. Okay, so my mental baby. It's a mental game.

Sales.

Nope.

What? Office manager.

Phone operators.

Oh, man.

Let's go.

It's so funny, dude. Yeah, see, I would put physical harm as a higher level. Like if you're going to go to work and there's a chance of dying, I feel like that should be ranked. Well, like, I literally think you could take the LNI score, like the workers compensation scores of these industries and, like, figure that out. Like, the highest is, like, logging, and then it's like, you know, tree removal, aerial stuff. There's like, linesman, people die.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, but, like, no matter how many people scream at you on the phone, you're not going to die. So, like, I think it just needs to be a little higher weight on physical harm.

I agree.

But I agree. It is stressful job.

I will say this.

It's stressful.

Having worked my way from a day labor using chainsaws, using bricks. I was using heavy machinery and loaders, excavators on. On hillsides over the ocean. So not. That didn't come for me. I was never like that stressed. I'm very confident. I think I just have good hand eye coordination. I felt extremely confident in this.

There were days I thought they would die.

Dude, in, like, 10 years, we're gonna tell some, like, OG Augusta stories, and people are going to be like, you guys did what? So, But I would say my most stressful days was when I was an office manager.

Really?

I hated dealing with people on the phone. I don't mind dealing with people. Face. Like, I can get screamed out to my face all day because I'm like, right there. I can show them my body language. I can diffuse. I can talk to them. But when I get yelled at over the phone, I just. I lose it, man. Like, I just. I hate it so much. There's like, you're just yelling at me because, like, there's this digital device between us that, like, allows you to feel safe.

Yeah. Hate it.

Their stress level. 98 average. Excuse me. Median annual salary for phone operators.

Oh, man. Low 25. 30.

Yeah. 37.

Mercy. So.

All right, next. I think this one's fair. Now, once again, not the physical side. I think all of these are mental, so you can take your qualms to the Department of Labor. But number four is judges.

I think that's.

Dude, I don't know. Dude. Judges are, like, determining whether you get speeding.

Yes, but in today's political climate, it's pretty tough to be a judge.

I guess I would say sure.

They administer the court of justice in a court of law. Their job description, that's their duties. Stress level.

Please tell me a cough is on this.

I don't know. I don't know. All right.

If a cop is not beating out a judge. Internal level of stress. We have serious issues with editorial staff.

Stress level for judges. 98. Median annual salary.

Ooh. 110.

148.

Okay.

Yeah, that's probably good. I would bet that's probably close. Like for our state.

Yeah.

I think you're thinking locally there, but then you think of, like, New York and then, like, circuit courts and federal courts. They're gonna be way up. All right, number three. So this.

This is. This is.

You got the medical background? I don't know. Number three is anesthesiologist assistants.

Oh.

So what's the difference between a nurse, anesthesia and an anesthesiologist?

I don't know. All I know is that it is not that stressful.

Yeah, so we're not gonna talk about that one again. According to us. Same thing.

Same thing. All right, number two is hijack the top 10.

Number two, you're probably gonna get some people asking you for a raise.

Oh.

Because it is the second most stressful job in the U.S. see, this is where I need one of those. Those booms. Second most.

I need the boom.

And I employ them.

Do you employ them?

It's not like. Is it vague, like manager, something?

Nope, it's very specific. You have media guys, three of them.

What? Not a chance. This is rigged, dude. There's no chance in the world. The media team has the most stress film, and we don't even have deadlines, dude. It's like, yeah, we need these projects done. Let's make sure we're all accountable to make sure they get finished. There's no deadlines. No one screams at us. We don't have bodily harm.

Filming video editors.

What? That's a bunch of.

This position, which includes jobs in television news, editing roles may work with producers or directors.

I highly disagree with this list.

Stupid stress level. 99.

Stephen will enjoy this bit.

So, Zach, Steven, Andrew, I teed you up. Okay, well, let's teed you guys up.

See what the average wage is. That's. That's the killer.

Median annual salary.

Yeah, 60, 70.

Yeah, 62. Right on the nose. Yeah, 62. But they're taking once again, film, video. They're probably going from Hollywood.

We're competitive. Yeah, we're competitive.

Nice. And you're hiring? Not yet.

Cool. You got to get them, dude. All right.

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Number one, dude, this one's gonna, like, blow your mind.

It better be a cop. Not a cop, then.

No, it's not a cop.

Dude, that's stupid. If the fact that you think a nurse, anesthesiologist, or a judge is more stressful than a cop. Like, talk about trying to, like, walk the political divide. Anyways, okay, number.

If you give me a clue, I'll give you the. Okay, I'll give you the.

The what would be the category in which it is under. Yeah, and then go broad.

Go broad.

I'll go broad. The field. There we go. I'll give you the field that it is in.

The same as industry.

Industry field. And if you get it right, I'll. I'll buy you lunch.

Buy me lunch. Dude, where are we going?

Wherever you want. Okay, Lunch bat. Everybody loves a good lunch.

Let's go.

All right. It is in the medical field as well.

That is stupid, dude. Oh, you know what? It's probably like the either medical billing or like the receptionist for.

Hospital receptionist.

Is that what my grandma was? A hospital?

Is that what it is?

No.

They special is a specialty within the medical field.

It's like some sort of surgery.

I don't know if these folks do surgery, but their stress level is 100 and their median annual salary is $208,000.

Dude, I'm sorry, but if you're making that much money, like, there needs to also be a calibration for your compensation.

Yeah.

Because if you're having that much money, like, you kind of deserve a little more stress.

They specialize in the conditions affecting the urinary tract and also deal with diseases and affect the reproductive system.

Urologists? Are you kidding me? That is such garbage.

The Department of Labor.

Why is that stressful?

Department of Labor.

Dude, put a bag on it, bro. Yeah, dude, that's stupid. Okay? Most. The least stressful jobs.

I gotta find it. I gotta find it. Least stressful. You want to know the least stressful?

The very least.

Yeah, I went all the way to the bottom. It's like 900 something.

Oh, dude, if it has any sort of calibration with a top 10 where I should just go the opposite. It's like firefighters.

Yeah. So why'd you say it like that? Because they have a stressful job before.

Dying inside of a house that's burning. It's like the cats at the top of the tree.

True.

Got to save them cats. Least most stressful Job most. Least. Least most stressful job. Couriers and messengers.

Okay. Like they grubhub kind of stressful.

Dude. Dude, I had a buddy who did it in Chicago. He got a bad car straight up.

Like, traffic should be higher than a nurse, anesthesiologist, or urologist. That's stupid. I highly disagree with that. Urology is such a pancake. Department of medicine.

Next.

Lowest is going to be cutters and trimmers by hand. What do you mean cutters and cutting determiners? Like, I don't know, like people that cut, like fabrics.

What?

I don't know. That's what it says. I'll click it.

Oh, like us like a sewing and. Sewing and quilting. Yeah, Yeah, I can see that. They're. They're basically scrapbooker type shop at Hobby lobby.

Yeah, Maybe I'll skip a couple because some of these don't really make sense. I'm just going in order. The next one that is a common one would be.

Who makes this?

Dude, this is department of labor.

Dude, the department of Labor. They're so messed up.

Just saying they're on drugs.

Door to door sales workers.

That's preposterous. That's like very stressful.

You ask anyone in today's society to do door to door sales, they will crumple.

Dude, they would rather be a urologist than be a door to door sales.

Go do nine years of school. Be crushed by debt.

Okay, I can start. As I'm thinking about it, there are certain parts of urology where I see there's definitely some stress.

But that would not. That would pale in comparison to the fact of doing door to door sales.

We're not gonna go there.

Fair enough.

This is not an anatomy lesson.

Fair enough. Appreciate it. Door sales is extremely stressful. Like, I don't know what people are thinking.

No, most people can never do.

You literally, your life is rejection.

Yeah, I know.

Tell it to anyone that literally gets dopamine off of likes on Instagram to go get rejected all day and tell them it's not stressful.

No. Like nine 99 out of 100 people can't do door to door sales. No.

If you. If you think door to our trails isn't stressful, go try it.

Yeah.

Because it's horrible. All right.

How is being someone answers the phone more stressful than door to door sales?

You take anyone on the phone, guarantee you 9 out of 10 of them can't go knock on doors.

Yeah, I agree with that.

You take anyone that knocks on doors, guarantee you they can answer the phone.

Yeah, I feel like, I feel like that's like the natural progression too.

Sales is harder than, than service. Yeah.

I mean, bad example. Jordan Belfort, he started on door to door meat sales. Like that's his. He went door to door and sold like frozen meat.

Horrible example.

But because he was a swindler, a lot of other things. But I think that's like he started, but then he crushed it on the phone.

Yeah. Like, I think it's low stress, bro. You just make so much money, you just go on yachts and everything else.

Here's one that's towards the bottom and I think this is, this is dumb because I, I took shop class in high school. Welders, soldering machine setters and operators. Like you could instantly like blind yourself. You could instantly burn your hand.

Like, my brother in law's a welder. He seems pretty chill, but. Yeah, dude, same thing. Like he, he had one of his friends die a couple months ago. Yeah.

Like, I think you, you know, if you're doing. And if anyone listening, well, this is. I'll butcher this. But I think like there are certain tanks and like a MIG welder, like I learned on MIG welders, dude, if the pressure's off in that tank or the line doesn't feed correctly.

Yeah.

Like, I feel like that's got to be dangerous, right?

Yes.

And then they, and then right above that.

I think whoever made this is like very white collar idiot.

Yeah. Well, Department of Labor. It's like this is literally what our taxes pay for. Like they spent directly. They spent a lot of resources.

Compensation rates.

Yeah.

Like risk of injury and death. Yeah. Like your life is in danger. If you go door to door sales, you might get abducted. Yeah. Let alone being urologist for being on the phone. Yeah, let.

Dude, I want to see. Can I like look and look at rank. Like, can I just search landscape?

Yeah, dude, it's probably going to give you your code.

Yeah, that gives the code. Let's go back to the list. All keyword search.

Oh, dude, this is like legitimate. Like a actual search, bro.

All right, where are we at?

Where there is landscape.

There you go.

It just says 83.

Well, no, but that's not. That's the stress. Score.

Score.

So landscaping.

83 at 100. Yeah, I feel it. I think it's relatively good.

Oh, there's architects or stress level 74. So what about, let's see, they're gonna do landscape architects.

Yeah, they chill. That's too easy.

Entrepreneur isn't on there.

Yeah, it's fine.

Yeah, I was Hoping is there like business owner.

But see, I think it's what you make of it, right? Because like business owner, you could have like a side hustle where it's like you basically nothing. Could just sell some digital widgets or ebooks or whatever and you'd be like super chill, no stress. Or you could have a business that does something very stressful and you just happen to do that. Right. So that'd be very broad. Same thing with like every one of these industry, like, hey, maybe we're not talking about the urologist guy that like has some massive feet. He's pulling off.

Yeah. So police. Okay, now that I found the keyword search function, this is interesting. Police did make the top 20.

Good.

So 96, they got it. Well, regular police are a 94. Transit and railroad police are 96.

That makes no sense.

Gotta protect the railroad.

I see the transit police. Like there's some weirdos in the bus.

Yeah, I don't know, dude.

I would be freaked out to be a copy 100.

Where's firefighter?

All the cops.

You're a big fire.

Deserve a raise.

Oh, dispatcher, fire, ambulance. They're gonna be 92. Their stress score.

Yeah, dude.

Elementary school teachers, 92.

I agree with that.

That's what my wife's. She's on. She's gonna be in a classroom next year telling you, dude, in a couple.

Months she's got to read 92 novels.

Books. Dude, I don't know. This is just garbage, man. Okay, I don't get it. Oh, my gosh. I should. I gotta stop looking. Dude, a 94 stress score. What's it. Therapist.

Therapist. Dude, what is our world coming to, bro?

I'm about to open an art therapy.

The real question, whether they get paid art therapists. What's the little sunshine thing mean?

I don't know.

That means like bright outlook. That's classic.

It's stressful.

How do you determine what they get?

I don't know.

Oh, you click on it. Oh, dude, this is that book. Okay, one second. I got a story about this in a second. Skills, knowledge, education.

You need a master's degree to do art therapy.

Art therapy. I think. I don't know. We should maybe.

28 an hour. $59,000 and you. Master's degree.

It's like Rorschach tests. Like the ink blots.

Okay, so here's a story. So there's one book back in the day when there's libraries and I would go library.

They still exist.

My wife goes on a weekly basis daily. I Hear. So.

Back in the day, there was one book I would get the BLS report, Year of Labor Statistics. For this.

Yeah.

And all it was was a print off of every single career. And literally have all of this information in print.

Yeah.

And I would read the whole thing. I. Every year it came out, I'd read from. It was, like, big. Like a phone book. I'd read the whole thing.

Why?

Because I was so interested in, like, what I was gonna do when I was. When I grew up. Like soup. Like, I'm talking, like, seven, eight. That was when I was obsessed with it. Like, grade two and three. That's why I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna be like. And, like, that's why I really, like. I thought I was gonna be a pilot. I thought I was gonna become a lawyer. I thought I was gonna become a financial planner. I thought I was gonna become a financial planner for a while. Yeah. Until grade eight.

So I thought I was gonna be a pilot, too.

You thought you're gonna be pilot?

Yeah, my dad flew in the Navy, so.

Yeah.

You know, Top Gun. It's kind of cool.

You can always, you know, you know, buy a jet when you're older or something.

That's the plan, yeah. Well, there you have it.

That's.

That's all I got, man. Yeah. So we just wanted to go through Department of Labor. Department of Labor. Stressful jobs. So exciting.

Yep.

So anyways.

This has been the Mike Andes podcast. Now you have some ideas on how to take your business to the next level. And if you liked what you heard, we have tons of lectures, interviews, and more over at the Mike Andy's YouTube channel. That'll be right up your alley. That's all we have for you today. We'll see you next time.

Sam.