C. Suite Unfiltered: Tik Tok, Love Languages, Co Pilot Secrets

Welcome back to the Mike Andes Podcast, where we discuss the ins and outs of owning a small business. If you're new here, the Mike Andes Podcast is all about taking your business to the next level. We have a new C Suite Unfiltered for you. This time, Mike and Lee are talking TikTok executives on Capitol Hill to the five love languages and everything in between. Would you pay $5 to creep on social media? Plus an exclusive segment about copilot secrets that you can only hear on C Suite Unfiltered. As always, you can find Aldous and more over at the Mike Candy's YouTube chann. Well, let's jump right into it. This is C Suite Unfiltered with Lee park and my candies.

Oh, we gotta record all the audio. All right, let's try that again. All right, now that we have audio, welcome everyone to another episode of the C Suite Unfiltered with Lee Park. Let's go ahead and kick it off. So Facebook group Nick Reed said he. He got an employee from our TikTok.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now we can talk about that, or we could talk about the fact that TikTok CEO today was getting questioned by. Was it Capitol Hill or lawmakers or whatever? Yeah. I haven't watched the recap, have you?

I have not watched. I've seen some clips.

Oh, really?

I saw a couple of clicks.

Was it juicy clips?

I saw one. I don't know who. Who posted it, like, what media outlet, but I was like, this is a perfect reason why we need younger representation in Congress. Because it was like, I like the.

Whole thing with Mark Zuckerberg.

Yeah, it was the classic, like, old white Congress mail. And he's just like, so when it's on the WI fi, can it look at other devices on the WI fi? It's like he doesn't even know what WI fi is. Yeah, it was bad. But, yeah, the clips I saw, I didn't see anything overly salacious.

Yeah, you know what? This is like super racially profiling. But I think a good political move for them would have been to get a guy that wasn't Asian be up there. It's like, oh, no, we're not sure. Like, I know. It's like, yeah, I potentially could be born in the US for all I care. I'm just saying, like, the optics of it.

I agree with that. Yeah. No, I've only seen a couple of clips. Nothing crazy, but it's like, I mean, it's what we talked about last time.

If.

If it's for free, it's not like they're using something, they're data mining, they're getting information.

So got to love it. And then that leads me into the fact that this gentleman that is now working for Nikrid has been really, really solid. Then on the Facebook, you know, chat Matthew Owens out and was it Matthew Owens or Jeremy Owens out in Georgia? He said they had a guy that also joined from seeing the social media, usually younger demographic because they're seeing the content, but they're usually really, really solid. And so I'm, I'm pretty stoked about that.

That's cool.

I'm going to share with the media team tomorrow in our weekly meeting because I think that's like a metric that's impossible for us to measure, but it's also like an extremely important data point, especially as we scale the media team. Like my goal, and I put it on there, like the goal would be that down the road, like the majority of people applying to work for us are actually coming through the content.

Right.

They're like pre qualified.

Yeah. Yeah. I actually used both those stories today on sales calls.

Oh, cool.

I was like, we're even getting people to apply that are high quality candidates from social media because most people know Augusta through social media.

Maybe one day someone say they came and worked for Augusta because this is.

I highly doubt that. If anything, this turns people off.

Dude, you're not in the yellow. I know the first time it's actually.

Because I just got in the shower and I don't know, I, I didn't have any clean yellow ones. It's off brand though, dude. I'm going to mix people up.

That's it. I like it. You know, co pilot, it's cool. It's the two heavy hitters, Augusta and co pilot.

Yeah.

Except it's white and no one likes it cuz it's kind of see through.

I like it. So, I mean, I guess blue hoodies. Yeah. Dude, when do I get the hoodie?

When did you get a hoodie? Well, someone asked about that on Facebook.

I know, I saw that.

We said, I said we'll focus on making a good product first and then we'll focus on merch, dude.

Yeah.

Andrew Schultz, who's a big comedian, very. Came onto the scene, very disruptive and he said, I judge my presidents by how they move merch.

You can hate Trump, but he knew how to move merch.

The way he said it too, is really good.

Yeah. So speaking of co pilot, man, we're at time of recording, we're like a full Month into launch. So you want to give us like an update. How are things going?

Yeah, so basically, what's the day? The 21st, 23rd. Today is the 23rd. So yeah, official, literally almost four weeks. We let everyone in the last week of February, like the last bit of the wait list. And you know, as with all launches, you always like, you could have it perfect, like you wish you could have done another week or two or whatever. And sure, we could have got more bugs out, we knew that. But eventually you just have to like let people in and just know that things are going to fall apart. So, like, I really appreciate anyone that joined in March. You know, going forward there's a way going to be way less bugs, it's gonna be much more stable and it already is a very useful product. But like the first couple weeks, man, there were some times where like the estimate page didn't work and stuff like that. And so it's very nerve wracking, I think. You know, even if you just look at my demeanor from the last pod versus this one, like it the first couple weeks of March were pretty rough.

Yeah.

So I knew we needed to get it done too because we're going to spring rush for Augusta. So I need to focus on that. I can't be spending all my nights and days focusing on Copilot and I need to, I need to establish the team around bug fixes and all that. So that's what we've been working on. Working better now. And I'm pretty excited because this is the last week of beta. Next week we'll start finishing like a lot of the stuff that we've been promising, like KPI Dashboard, which is the cockpit and some other things. And then in April, like we start features and like, we're so close to that. I'm really looking forward to it. And yeah, it's been, it's been a crazy, crazy journey. I'll tell stories down the road. Like, we're still so close to it, right? Like, I don't want to say stuff but like, give me a few more months and then I'll share some of the crazy stuff that's happened the past few weeks.

Because it's not really like, and I don't mean this to be harsh, but it's really not tested yet, you know, to its fullest extent.

No. And I've been honest with people, like, that's the biggest drawback I think of anyone joining is like, look, we, we, we have all of four weeks of history. So like, you can't don't have. You can't talk to customers. And like how has it right been over the trajectory of innovation? But like I just guarantee that anyone that joins for three to four months will see that like we're outpacing anyone else in terms of the way we're doing bug fixes as well as feature innovation. We're going to be actually releasing this is. Oh, you got all these experiences, dude.

Let's go.

So we're going to be releasing this thing. It's actually a live look at our internal development team of what's being fixed and what's being worked on live. So we're going to call it like a live flight tracker. You know how you can track those.

Jets, dude, like flight aware.

Yeah. And then we're going to do like notes from the. What's it called?

The Big Towers Control Tower. Air Traffic Control.

Atc. There you go. And it was atc. I was like, what stands for again? Air Traffic Control Weekly. We're going to do which is going to be basically a summary of everything that was done and I think it's going to blow people away. Like this past week we went through 73 things and I'd say 50 of them were bugs, 23 or so of them were feature or like improvements. And then I think once we hit features we should be able to do four to five a week.

On a good week.

Yeah.

But like we have 40 to 50 that I need to get through this year. So there's going to be cool stuff, dude. Going to be awesome. I feel really good now.

Good.

Because like the first couple weeks are brutal.

How many users are in it currently?

There's ballpark, I don't know, probably 80 to 100.

Oh cool. Right on. What's been the. What would you say is the biggest success of these four weeks?

I'm a couple things. I'm really happy that a lot of people are using enterprise. It's extremely important from a business perspective. It's sticky here. The features are the strongest in terms like two way texting where we're going to really focus on the innovation side with the AI. So that's been helpful just to see that stickiness. We've only had three people out of any paid, any subscription level drop out. That's huge.

Yeah.

Especially during beta when we like we were dropping the ball left and right on in the first couple weeks. That's been super helpful. But in terms of myself personally is just the team coming together. It's very difficult to bring teams together and so we had to Bring developers from that we're working. Used to be on Lawn Pro, then my dev team and then my support internally and then Patrick and me working together. So like it's a lot of people colliding and we've only been doing it now for a few months so I feel like we've just started hitting our stride and it's gonna be really good. So I would love to hire more. It's just we all watch the money so I really want to hire some in, in house devs. Extremely expensive but like I really want that we have their in house support. I want to keep building that out. So it's just like you got to walk this fine line of like I want to keep growing it but like there's money involved so we got to watch it. It's expensive.

Yeah.

So subscribe, get a, get a, get a subscription.

Oh, oh, Copilot.

I think.

I don't know how that's.

Going to help enterprise level. I don't know. Do you call it a subscription purchase? Yeah, I'm using Subscribe because it's not as big of a sales word.

You know, I think like when this comes out tomorrow, hopefully tomorrow, if not Monday, we're going to be releasing like 30 plus automations, a whole bunch of email templates that we've designed. Cool. Um, no one else is doing that. Most other softwares like Service opa, they make you pay for it or they have certified advisors that you have to pay every single month for it. And I guarantee these automations will put any home contractor into the 98th, 99th percentile of automations. And so I'm pretty stoked about that. I've been spending weeks on that as well. Like with a long beta, I've been building those. It's been a pain in the butt. Like so I finally finished, I feel like this massive weight off my shoulders and so now the only thing I'm really still plugging away is the 3D notifications which won't come out till April. So that's data driven decision. It's kind of like the beginning of our foray into AI and that, that hurts my brain but it's much more challenging and less.

I don't know, just like what you're trying to build needs to work for every single service, every type of business, whether they're doing flat rate, whether they're doing per hour, whether they're doing P4P, whether they're doing contract level billing. So you got to think about all these things to make sure you don't mess something up for them. And the thing that hurts me the most is, like, when we did the beta and we messed stuff up and I know it's affecting their business. I know they're scrambling their brains over it. It kills me because I know it'. You know, it's like, yeah. And so I think that's what I think that is what will make Copilot good, though, is because I do know that pain. And I don't look at it as, like, zeros and ones. Like, the dev team's like, oh, we're on this. I'm like, no, no, no, no. We are fixing this problem right now. Because I know what it's like to not be able to open up a page. Like, there's a certain bug. And so me and Patrick will not sleep until certain things are fixed.

So I like that. And I think that that would be, you know, not to like, use this term, like, in a. In a joking sense, but it's almost like someone's competitive advantage of using Copilot knowing that it's run by a CEO that has home service businesses. Because I remember scrambling when a, you know, a certain CRM to not be named changed massively overnight. And we were scrambling. Yeah, the tickets thing.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, we. And they reverted back and then it reverted back and it was just a whole process where we basically lost thousands of dollars trying to scramble and figure that out, if not tens of thousands.

And hours of sleep.

And hours of sleep. Oh, yeah, it was chaos.

Nuts.

So.

So, yeah, like, I think. And that's. That is to be expected of a company that's innovating, I think when, when it takes weeks to solve a problem, like even the problem we've been having with said CRM over the past couple of weeks, where we're telling our franchisees, like, don't send automations for the next couple weeks. So we don't know what's going on. It needs to be addressed.

Right.

It's like atc. Like, like, like you can listen to any atc. Yeah, right. Air traffic control. So, like, our goal is like, okay, how do we make this to our user base where they see everything live? Okay, this bug just. They're working on this. Okay, great. I know it's being fixed. Right. And then if they see a pattern over time that we're fixing things, like, as they come in and quickly and like, we. We're good at prioritization. So that's what I'm happy about, is that we figured a lot of these systems and like, the team is better.

Cool.

And I think it'll be good.

Do you feel. This is not a prepared question and don't. You don't have to answer it. But we're. But we're unfiltered. Is. Do you feel like right now you could switch Augusta over to copilot?

Oh, dude. What's your.

Where's your confidence level?

I do think we could. Yep. We're obviously not. We're going to switch over. I can't say that.

I mean, I know that's why I'm like, like, so.

Yeah.

So the positioning is that.

Theoretically.

Yeah, I think we can do it now.

It'll go smoother when we have the integrations with Ringcentral and, like, the command center integration and things like that. But we finished the command center one. I think we could do it, dude. I definitely do. There's already some franchisees using service Copilot, and so it definitely usable. It definitely could happen. It'd just be. We don't want to do it switch over quite yet. Mm. And when that happens, it'll be really cool.

Yeah.

Because it just, like. It's just like, look, if. If I. Every single day, I get to talk to right now, 125 service business owners. I just don't believe that any other CEO of these software companies is doing that and having real lifetime, like, feedback. Like, this is not working. Okay, guys. Like, I could just run this every single morning. Okay, guys. Poll. What do you guys think? What should we do? Like, what's best for you guys when you're being conservative?

Because that's just a Gust of Nation franchisees.

Right.

You could put up a poll on YouTube every day.

I'm just saying I'm with them every day. Like, every other weekend. I'm with all of Copilot, but with the franchisees, like, every single day. Feedback is what I think a CEO needs.

Yeah.

And so, yeah.

Anyways, any fun conversations with other CEOs recently? We can't share all.

I mean. I know.

I know.

Yeah, there's been some ones.

Yeah. All right.

Yeah. I got another one coming up with an AI company next week. It's going to be fun.

Very cool.

I basically told him. I said, look, I was really honest with them. I said, look, we're gonna rip you off next year. And I said, the benefit of us doing business together is I think this will really help you. And here's why. And this will really help us because it'll save us six months of development and a bunch of money that I don't want to spend on it right now. I said we can join forces and be stronger together or like I'm gonna, I'm gonna knock you off next year.

Yeah.

And so they booked a call with me. So we'll see what happens.

Let's go, dude. It's gonna be great.

So I really hope we can work with them. I can't say the name yet.

Yeah.

All right, that's fair enough. I just like to ask, I like to pick, you know, the people want to know the juicy stuff, the juicy details.

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Well, I. Let's. I want to jump backwards. Okay.

Okay.

So we, we on a pod early in the year we talked about some stock picks.

Yeah, dude, I bought Tesla live on.

The show and that was the inception of not financial advice.

Oh really?

Well, yeah, cuz we were like it's, it's not financial advice but Tesla's a buy.

Was that one of my non financial advice?

I think it was more just a bit. And then I thought about it later. I was like, we should make this recurring.

I think on the Show I bought 8,000.

I don't remember the full total.

8 or 13. I know I bought 5 and 8 that day. So either 8 or I bought both. I don't remember.

Yeah, so give us the update.

Do you want me to show them?

Yeah, if you, if you're comfortable.

Because everyone always says that they like made money on trades and I. Let me be the first to say I have lost money in 2022 in stocks. But like let's look at.

Yeah, I just did my taxes. Oh, it's rough. It's rough out there in the streets.

Robin Hood or what were you using?

I use E trade.

Okay.

Yeah, dude, that's old fashioned. That's like serious. Like what's it called a boomer.

Yeah, it's a little overwhelming. Hey, I'm nostalgic.

Okay. All right, so Today, Tesla's at 198. Okay. We. If we go back to when I lost last bought it was this the time we talked on the show? Because I felt like that was the bottom. I was like, let's.

Let's go.

Bye. Bye.

It was right around 100. It was floating. Yeah. Dude.

Let me just find this, because I sent you a screenshot.

You did send me a screenshot.

Just to prove that, like, we're not making this update. Oh, man. I just have to prove that listening to C Suite unfiltered, not a financial advice is great financial advice. It's great financial advice. All right, so here we go. You can. You can just share the screenshot.

Yeah, I got it right here. I pulled it up on my computer.

You know, on January 3rd, we had a pod, so I bought 8,000.

Yeah.

5,000. 3,000. Okay, great. But then right before that, I bought more, so about another 3,000. So like a total of 11,000.

Okay.

I sold it all for 20,000. Now, full disclosure, it's not like I sold out of Tesla. I still have. Do you want me to say how much?

You can if you want. Oh, let me guess. So you have. This is what you're still holding.

I'm still holding in Tesla as of today. As of today, just Tesla, not. This does not include ETS to include Tesla.

When. When do you think your first investment in Tesla was? Like, how many years ago? Like, way back?

No, I didn't start investing. So they were profitable. That's my thing with companies. So it was only a few years ago.

I don't know. I don't want to be, like, too conservative. I just don't know how much you did.

Well, here's the thing. If a stock gets over 15% of my portfolio, I immediately sell.

And you're holding it. Yeah, I feel like I could be way off.

You know what we should do based upon those just this snippets. I just said people should guess how much of Tesla.

All right.

In the comments.

Okay, cool.

And I'll share on next time.

Yeah, that sounds good. I. I have a guess. I'll give it to you when we stop recording.

Screenshot it. So that is the numbers as of now.

Okay, I've. I witnessed he screenshot.

Okay, boom.

I have a number. But I'll.

I'll.

I'll wait till we're done recording. Okay, I have a guess.

So. Great. So. So based upon What I've just said. Because if you actually just do I just. If you take the numbers, I just said, you can run the math and figure.

Yeah, yeah, that's what I figured. So I'm going to. I'm going to try. Okay, we'll see.

But yeah, so you can tell your guests out live because they're not going to know.

Well, yeah, but I haven't. I got to pull a calculator. That's cheap, dude. This is unfiltered, so it's.

Yes. Now you got to run the math.

Yeah, now I'm running the math.

Okay. So go for it.

So the 20 is what pushed it over what you sold, that made it go over 15% of your portfolio?

Well, I didn't say that. I just said that when Something goes over 15%, I sell it.

My number.

Okay.

My number before Crunchy getting numbers was what you were holding was 85.

Okay.

All right.

Well, we'll have to see in the comments when we'll release on the next episode. Dude.

Okay, cool. All right, we'll see. Yeah. Tesla stock picks. Not financial advice. Sometimes it works. Sometimes, but it's just not. It's not financial advice.

Dude. I got so lucky in the stocks because I had to buy this real estate.

Yeah.

In October of 2021. So I sold a bunch. It was totally luck. I would have lost so much money in the first four or five months after that when everything started collapsing. But I didn't. I had to buy this place.

Yeah. Did you see, like, two days ago, Jerome Powell was speaking about rake. Rake rate hikes.

Yeah.

And like, if you watch like S&P 500 and NASDAQ, as soon as you start talking, they all just went boop.

Yeah. Because a lot of people were hoping that he'd stop the interest rate.

Right.

But you know, they stay in their course and, man, they're really. They're pretty ballsy, dude. The fact they keep raising rates into what's happening. They're going off of historical data and like, look, dude, look what's happening now. Like, that's two, three months old. Like, we're in a banking crisis. So I think it could really be pushing us towards a recession like we've been talking about already. But, like, I think it's just even more like they're basically saying, we're going to push. You push everyone into recession to stop inflation. Yeah. So.

So, well, completely switching gears.

But you know what's a good thing.

Even though we haven't hit me with.

It, is since we talk about copilot is my hope is that I'm able to get cheaper developers.

Developers.

So all these companies like Google and Facebook were basically hiring anyone. Yeah, that would code well. It made it so expensive. Like, you have to pay 200 to $300,000. No joke. 200 to $300,000 minimum to get a full stack developer. Full stack means, like, you can do UI UX front end, back end. And so, dude, now you can get for half of that because Facebook and Google aren't hiring. They're actually laying people off.

Right.

So could be a. Could be a good thing for us in the long term, like next 12 months.

That'd be sweet though. That'd be cool if you had devs in house.

Yeah, I would love to have that. It just. It's hard to find them because, like, you got to look at like, okay, let's say there's a million devs. Only a thousand of them I really like are like the. The skills that I need because we have a small team. Right. If you have a massive team. Oh, this person's good at UI ux. Okay, great. There you. We don't do like, we have. We got to do everything. You'll be full stack.

Yeah.

So they're more expensive. They got to have more skills because we want them to all like, you got to do a mobile app for Android, then you need to do iOS app. Then I need you to design, then I need you to be able to do databasing, and then I need you to security and payments. So, like, it's just a lot. So it's expensive. Hard position to find.

You got to have that range.

Range.

David Epstein. Range. What? David Epstein.

Oh, Epstein.

I was thinking a different Epstein.

No, no, no, David Epstein. It's a great book range. How generalists thrive in a specialized world. That's great book. Phenomenal book.

All right.

March Madness Challenge.

Okay.

You didn't fill out a bracket.

I didn't. But how many people did? I was shocked.

Like, I filled that one for you.

No, but how many people filled out? 100 people.

Oh, for us, for our pod?

Yeah.

No, 17. 17. 17.

Oh, I thought you said 70 the other day.

I was like, dude, that's great. 17 people filled it out. So at time recording. There's games being played tonight while we're recording.

Okay.

But person in first place, they don't have their real name on their account, but it's lawn care pros, so I don't know.

No ESPN fan. ESPN fan.

What does it show the name?

No, that's there that's their.

Oh, that stinks. Cash in on the madness.

Yeah.

So lawn care pros.

Lawn care pros, you're currently in the.

Lead and trying to think of a different.

In second place, it is full metal bracket, which is Dustin bearding. And then third place is Tommy for the W that trusted lawn and landscapes.

Yeah.

You know a place our brackets are in. Oh, dude, I made a randomized bracket for you with your winner, which was Alabama.

Yeah.

And I selected mine.

So I guess like in the 80th percentile.

Yeah. You're in 14th place out of 17. And I'm in 15th place. 17 from the front, dude. Last place is bracket title. Got him. So you're getting got. However, I don't like that lawn care pros bracket had Kansas is the winner and Kansas is eliminated. I like that. I feel like you automatically can't win if you get. If you don't get the winner. If your winner's already out saying, yeah, both of our winners are still alive.

I go for. I just go for the gold, bro.

Yeah. So who did you say?

Tennessee.

I said Texas.

Texas.

Yeah.

Gotcha.

You got Bama. So we'll see.

I haven't watched a single game.

Oh, dude. I haven't either. I've seen a few clips. I've listened to a couple podcasts, but I just. I don't have time to listen to watch it. But yeah, March Madness. Thanks for everyone that filled out a bracket.

Okay, so when does that end? Like in a few more weeks.

Yeah, a few more weeks. So this weekend there's four more days of basketball. So like starts tonight and then. And then that gets us down to. What's that get us down to? Final four or Elite eight? I don't remember.

I don't know.

The bracket works cool. It's exciting.

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Well, on. On that last video, we were also talking about paid ads or subscriptions. Oh, yeah.

Most people agreed with me.

Most people agreed with you.

Thank you very much.

Most people agreed with you very respectfully. But I'm going to. Since it's the Internet, I'm going to say I got dragged in the comments, even though no one said my name right. Everyone completely disagreed with me. So I'm going to be a victim and say I got dragged. Yes.

Someone canceled, bro.

Someone even said, Jake Schneider, he said he would rather. He said if I were homeless, living under a bridge, I would still pay for YouTube Premium.

Let's go, dude.

That's a. That's a. That's a hill to die on. Yeah, that's nuts. I'm still not paying, but I do. It got me thinking.

Okay, okay.

Not me. Once again, I won't pay for it. But here's a quick way you could get people to pay for a premium service on social media. It's something you could do to their.

Account, but you could only do what you're about to say if you had a follow a base of users so great and a following so much that they would use the product despite the pain that you're trying to inflict.

Just hear me out.

Do you know.

Do you have an idea what I'm going to say?

I think you're going to say that you basically make something really annoying, and then you basically say, pay to make it. Oh, okay, go ahead.

What I'm going to do is I'm going to create more transparency on social media. And if you pay for the subscription, you. You get to hide things. So right now, if you go on Instagram, you can look at other people's likes. Now, if you make everyone's likes visible and say, oh, if you have a premium subscription, we won't show your likes. Like, you can turn that off. You would get a lot of people to have a paid subscription. See, I don't like things because what you're going. What people want to do is they want to hide that interaction on social media.

Kind of like our bumble conversation.

Yeah, a little bit. Right? Yeah, like the bumble conversation. Like, you were on there, you were just beta testing bumble. You know, you're just getting that.

That. And I paid $20. Yeah. To be. To be anonymous or whatever it's called. Right.

So it'd be the same thing, like Facebook. So, like, think about Facebook. You scroll Facebook. Well, you. You don't scroll Facebook. But if I open my Facebook right now and scrolled, I would, at some point, I would see this Person like this post, and I'd be like, I haven't talked to that person in years. Why, why is it showing me they like it?

The whole beauty of social media is that you see your friends and what they're liking. I think like, it might devalue the fact that if someone's hiding everything, like, then you only see like three likes, when in reality there's 500 likes, but everyone's just hiding it.

Yeah, but I think you're thinking from, you're thinking in your world, think about like the common man, you know?

Yeah, but why would people, people want.

Other people to see what they're looking at?

Okay, so why would you click like on it then?

So you can keep it as like a, like a. Your portfolio of likes. I don't know. I don't know, man. I'm just saying, sure, the work of.

Art that you created, your likes is good.

Yeah.

I'm saying from a privacy body of work. See, you're, you're too nice of a guy.

But why would you like something if it's not being shared with your friends and stuff?

I mean, I liked like one of our franchisees wishes wife happy birthday on Facebook. I liked it.

Yeah, but would you like, like you have liked if it was private? Yeah. Why, why would you spend the time to click?

Like, because I'm saying if it's happy birthday to your wife.

But if it's.

Going to be private, who cares? Like, why would you do that?

Yeah, but he can see the like social media.

Social media, bro.

Yeah, but I'm just thinking about like, so on TikTok, here's, here's what spurred this. I was thinking like, what would get people to pay for subscriptions? On TikTok, you can hide what you like.

Okay.

It's built in to.

They haven't figured out a way to monetize that.

Right. So what I'm saying is if you pay for. So we're gonna say, oh no, likes are public now.

But see, then if that's the case, why would you not like something? There's a really easy way to not pay the subscription. Don't like things.

I feel like the producer has a thought here. She. Here's what happened. So she, the producer. No, the producer is a tick tock. You accidentally like something. No. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We had that conversation on the way over here because I was like, I'm going to pitch this to Mike, see what he thinks. And I was like, I would show. I would say I would show my parents, Jesus, and my wife all my likes on social media. Because, like, I don't. I was like, it's probably Mariner stuff, maybe some golf stuff.

Why do you like it? Why do you click?

Like, because it's just ingrained in me as a millennial.

But would that go away if you knew that it meant nothing?

Why are you saying it means nothing, though?

Because it only means anything for the showing it to other people.

But it already means nothing to me.

Then you can just save it.

Like, in my mind, it already means nothing to me. I don't think people are looking at my likes, but I think there's a lot of other people that think they.

Think they're so important. People are literally scrolling through to see here. This is exactly what I said to.

The producer in the car. Creeps don't want to get crept on. So when someone is on social media.

I want to. Yeah, I want to monetize the creep text. Yeah. Because people are going to be creepy either way on social media, so might as well make some money off the first thing.

The first challenging part, the hardest part about that entire property position is that you have to build a product that people want to use.

TikTok. You can already hide your likes on.

TikTok, but no one's paying for it.

Right. So what I'm saying is TikTok goes, oh, new update. All your likes are visible, but if you pay five bucks a month, you can go back to what it was.

Okay, going back to what we talked about last week. How many people are going to do that? Just don't click, like, a lot, man. Don't click. Like, bro, you. You create the next TikTok, and I'll pay $5 a month.

You're a nice guy. You're not going to be. You're not creeping on social.

Right.

I'm just saying, like, I've seen this happen, right? Buddy, him and his girl break up and they're like, we'll go look at her likes. She like another dude's pictures.

Oh, my word.

See?

Yeah, thanks. You're too nice.

Wait a second. So you're saying if you break up with somebody, so buddy.

Buddy gets broken up with by his girl. He's like, that was to use the slang of the.

That was us. There must be someone else. Yeah.

Okay, so let's go look at her likes. They're public.

Okay? Now, she can pay five bucks a.

Month to make sure those likes aren't.

Public, but then that would assume that she's the creep.

Now she Just doesn't want other people creeping on her.

But why would she care? She just broke up with this dude. She wants to stick it back to.

Him because their life. See, I'm trying to like, it's like.

But why would she care? She wants him to know that she is sticking it to him.

Not necessarily.

Why would she not?

What if she. What if she was cheating? So she's cheating.

She doesn't care. Obviously.

Yeah, but she doesn't want to look like. Look bad in public.

You just want to look bad in public cheating.

No, no, no, no.

Example.

Because if someone broke up with someone, they want them to know. Dude. Imagine they want them to see.

I think you're a little disconnected here, guy.

Why? Yes, you would. No, if someone broke up. Let me think this through. If someone broke up with someone else, they would want them to see that they're liking other people's stuff and make them feel bad. Typically 95 of the time.

Yeah, I guess. If there's animosity.

Yeah. So why in the world they pay $5 to be undercover? Unless they are creepy and they're trying to cheat on someone.

That's the thing.

So you're trying to monetize the creep.

Yes, that's what I said. Creepers don't want to be crept on.

Cheaters don't want to be cheated.

Yeah. I think you would get so many people to pay for that. I just genuinely think you would.

It's hilarious.

You could go.

I agree.

I was doing. I just pulled up Instagram and I pulled up my activity.

I agree with you.

Go.

Look at all. I could also make money by putting a massive on taking a gun down to the bank and robbing them. But is it right?

No, but if you pay me $5, I'll defend you in court. Here's the thing. If you go to my activity, it's going to be creepy because it's just your stuff. See, I don't want to be crept on.

So that's hilarious. Okay.

I don't know.

All right. I think there's validity to it. I don't think I would pay $5 to hide that. I don't care what people see on social media. My stuff.

I mean, me either. That's what I'm saying.

I don't care if they're watching me. Whatever. I'm not that important.

Well, yeah. And that's what my whole thing was about. Ads and being have my data monitored. It's like, dude, Google already knows what I like.

Yeah. Like now if they're gonna Take my time for me, then I'll pay.

Yeah. So it forces you to see other people's likes and you're like, I would never.

I don't care. I have to think, would I ever care what they like? I think if I was trying to vet, like a really high executive, that would become valuable. See, but if they did, if they were. If they were paying $5, that would not be a good thing. Because I want to know.

I know. So, see, I'm trying to make money for the big corporations of the world.

But if they're creepy, they would have the five dollars. It'd be the stamp of creepiness. They have a five dollar. Yeah, they're creep.

See, that's what I'm saying. It's clear as mud. That's it. Everybody knows no one would want it.

Then why would you want to pay $5 for the thing that everyone knows that you have? That. That you're a creed.

Here's my counter. Here's my counterpoint. Everything on social media is fake already. Like, everybody knows everybody's lying, making their life look better than it is. Filters this, that, and the other. So you're already misrepresenting yourself online. So it's like, well, let me just go one step further and just not show people what I like.

Or maybe you want it. Let's.

Let's use.

I think that's the opposite of transparency, dude. I think that people would be willing to pay for ex. More. More transparency.

Like, they'd be willing to see other people, more information about them.

Let me. Yeah, so like, on Instagram, you could pay to see every picture someone might have posted their drafts, go through their drafts.

Would they click like. And then unlike on. There you go.

That would be killer. See, there we go. Now we're. Now we're getting some search history. Now we're turning into the creeps, dude. I don't know.

I would pay $5 for that.

I would pay 5. Well, yeah, if you're interviewing people, I would totally pay $5 to creep on what other people are doing.

Yeah, bro.

But then if I were an employee, I would pay him $5 so people could not see.

You're gonna monetize both sides.

Yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a never ending cycle.

Let's go. All right, next up, I think that business is gonna work very well. $5 I'm paying to pay for more information that you're hiding for $5.

So it just like cancels out, dude, Exactly. I think it's honestly It's a. It's perfect.

Oh, man.

It's like the people in the comments of my shorts all the time right now. Because we're getting, like, tons of views. Like, millions.

Yeah.

Because these shorts are hilarious.

Sick brag.

And so. Yeah.

So.

But. But what it does, it brings up in random people.

Yeah.

Like, I have no idea.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's what I meant. So a whole bunch of them are like, we should create a database that contractors pay in order to be able to see, like, the bad customers. And, like, it's the exact same philosophy because, like, the customers would also just do the thing back, and you just have this war of, like, well, I'll pay and I'll get, like. Because, like, Yelp does that now for customer reviews, right? Like, if you pay, you can basically get them erased. Then you can flip it around. Like, then the customers are starting to pay these. These agencies to remove bad reviews from contractors on them, saying that they're bad customers.

Well, it's already hard enough with the online review process because even, like, you know, your store, Bellingham, right? Your first Augusta location, we have, you know, 400 mowing clients. And then if someone leaves a bad review but their Google handle or their Google name isn't the actual name on the account, we're like, hey, please call us or please email us if you had a bad experience. We want to fix it, but we genuinely don't know who you are or what account we serviced. Like, that's obnoxious. So, yeah, the whole, like, counter reviewing, it's. I don't know.

Unless.

Unless we can make money off seems dumb. But I'm just, you know, I'm brainstorming.

You know, like, for example, if you had that. Where you're reviewing customers are really. Excuse me. Bad. And, like, you had a public database of customer names. Like, that just be a conflict of, like, data. Like, you could never do that because of privacy. Whereas, like, a business, when you create an entity that's a public corporation, it's a lot to be a searchable database because it's your license with the state. But you could never be like, lee park, we're gonna tag him, and everyone's gonna bag on how bad of a human is. Address his phone numbers, email. And everyone knows, like, that would literally be illegal. And then secondarily, I forgot I was going with that. But secondarily, something else happened.

I was gonna say, so you have the Better Business Bureau, and you have the crystal clear consumer.

Look at you, dude.

The Triple B and the Triple C. The Better Business Bureau is the worst in terms of refuting.

Yeah. It used to be a legit thing.

Yeah.

But now it's just basically like a. It's like a glorified Yelp.

Yeah.

It's pretty bad.

We need a crystal clear consumer product where we can just blast people online.

Go, dude.

And they can pay $5 to not be blasted online. All right.

Oh. Shout out. Brian Rand.

Shout out.

Brian came up with a new thing. P4P stands for praise for performance. Because he said. I hope he doesn't mind me saying this. He's like, mike, I don't like the conversation. I just want to. I want to be rewarded with praise. And.

Was it admiration or something? Like he was being funny.

Yeah.

Because he's coming up in two years with Augusta, so we're gonna have a little party for him. And so he's like. He wants people to sing for him. And it's like, is it his birthday? Two years of Augusta. It's like P for P. He said, I don't need P for P. I need, like, praise or something like that. And I said, P for P, baby. Praise for performance.

I like it. Some people just need words of affirmation. You know five love languages. Yeah, you know you into that. Five Love Languages. Gary Chapman.

I've heard of it. Yeah.

You've heard of it? Yeah, he was a professor.

I think I took the test a few years ago because, like, when my sister or my brother were, like, dating everything, they all started reading it, and I think I took the test. I think. Do you know. Wait, let me guess. Do you know what his is?

Yeah, we talk about this on. Not on a regular basis, but it's good to communicate in a marriage how you feel loved.

I don't know that. Okay, dude, I'm just trying to convey what I think of you based on. Okay, so one is like, look at my Instagram likes.

Good idea.

Money. Okay, so there's what? There's physical touch. There's words of affirmation. Those are my two, by the way. Cool.

Acts of service.

Acts of service.

What? Gifts. Gifts and quality time.

Quality time. So based upon how you answered that, because I just set that up, you're going to be acts of service. And.

The second one that I said, that's the other one. Not the.

You got it.

Words of affirmation.

Words of affirmation is mine, right? Yeah. And then the acts of service. Eh. Yeah, I guess. Is it.

Was it. You haven't taken the test?

Oh, no. Well, dude, the. The guy who Wrote that book is a professor at my school. We have a building named after him. Like, it's like everyone has to, like, read his books and know about it. But you took the test at Moody. You just did we ever. Was the test required?

Okay, cool. I know the guy. Therefore, everything in his brain.

Well, like, the. The book is, like, essentially required if you go to that school.

Okay, but you didn't.

Sarah said we did. Or I did. Okay, but I know it's words. Affirmation.

Okay. Words of affirmation. And then the. I think the second. The third one. That is. Right, right. You know. No, you don't know.

Acts of service.

Acts of service.

I don't. I only. What's my love language?

I only think that because the way he's answered, like, I would say personally, definitely words of affirmation. And yeah, I would say acts of service.

That's Brian praise for performance.

Yeah, there you go.

That's. I like. Yeah. Affirmation. That's my thing.

Let's go.

So my wife's the producer's quality time.

Oh, yeah, that. That stinks. See, I can't have a wife.

That's quality time.

I can never have that. Dude, like, oh, you're out, man. That ain't happening.

Yeah, just like, just fail first date. You're just like five love languages. Just let me know. Rank power.

Rank them.

I think.

Was it.

Was it on this. This pod where I said something about, like the first date, I would say something and someone said something like, that's why you're single or something like that. I forget.

I don't know.

Maybe it was another pod.

I forget.

Anyway, sorry.

Yeah. But I don't know how we got on that. Praise for performance and words of affirmation.

You got to give. You got to give the producer more time, bro. Call it time. Yeah. And here we are Thursday night, recording the pod.

We're going to go like Trader Joe's or something after this.

Super romantic.

Super romantic quality time walking down those aisles.

Yeah.

All right. I think. I think that's really all I got.

Okay. What's your non financial advice?

What's my non financial advice?

See if I had anything else. I actually took notes of those couple.

Things I got that had something.

Non financial advice.

Yeah.

And then I think I'm blanking.

Okay. My non financial advice because it's going live tomorrow.

Yeah.

Hopefully built for business.

Yes. Yes.

Going live this weekend.

Cool.

So everyone should go sign up. At least sign up for a free consultation with Christian. Christian's a cool dude. Very Very passionate about. Yeah. Fitness. Nice.

Here's my non financial advice.

I have B I L T number four business.

Com.

Nice. Love it.

My not financial advice is if you, if you have a partner or if you're looking to for a romantic relationship. Maybe, maybe you maybe check out the five love languages.

There you go.

Yeah, I had something else. I'll think of it. I'll give it next week. I think. I'm not saying drink the Kool Aid. You have to buy into it because I don't know if I fully like believe it, but I definitely see value in it.

It's a good conversation start.

It's a great conversation starter.

Yeah.

And there will be elements where you're like, oh, I see that in myself.

Or I see that in my partner thinks about it. When if you're different than the other person is that you value things that they don't and then that what that can potentially lead to. I've never read the book by the way, so maybe he already covered this. And this is like repetitive. Is that you do things that you think are valuable and they're like meh. Yeah. And then you're like so disappointed.

Like, man, I thought that was gonna be great.

Like for me because I value money so much. That's usually how I think. Like, oh, I should reward people with money. Like it's like no, no, some people don't care about that. That. So like I'm still trying to learn, like take the love part away. But just like in general, like compensation. Rewarding people how like I say thank you is usually like, here's something. Give this. Like because like I think most people enjoy that. But some people care less what you give them or how much money they make. Right. And so shout out Brian. Like it helps me like, oh, that's a data point. It's important. Like it's not a love language, but it's like I love him as an employee as well as a friend. And like if I ever want to give him more, it's like, okay, that's not when it's needed but potentially other things. So for example, like he's going to be just hearing it on our executive meeting.

Yeah.

More information, stuff like that.

Yeah, right on. That's a pod.

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