The Next President of the United States is... - Episode 053

Hello.

Welcome back. Another episode.

The cold opens, bro.

The cold opens. Yes. That's how we do it. Cool. Well, let's jump right in. C Suite unfiltered. I wanted to, to ask you, do you feel that to be the CEO of Augusta and or copilot that you should take a cognitive test.

To prove to us that you are fit to be our CEO? Mike, Andy's the question to you.

Okay. You obviously got this from the all in pod. No.

So I would say that I don't think a cognitive test is, is actually needed because your, your results should kind of like speak for themselves. And if that's coming into question, we have a problem.

Yeah, fair enough.

So, like, I think that that would just be a, you know, a metric that is not really needed because you can tell from someone's behavior and how they do things of whether or not they have cognitive abilities.

Yeah. So if you don't know what I'm alluding to there, obviously, you know, we don't talk politics often. I know Mike isn't the most interested in politics. He's more interested in business. I feel like I have a tendency to lean towards. I just enjoy politics and, and the gamifying of it and learning about it. But basically, you know, Biden was potentially supposed to take a cognitive test, or he was asked to and then they never forced him to or he declined it. I don't know all the semantics of it, and I'm not going to pretend I know the semantics of it. But then it's an interesting question because people are like, well, should the president have to take a cognitive test if the public can see signs of mental decline? So what are your, what are your actual thoughts on that? Maybe like a public office, not necessarily for private businesses, but a public office. Should there be certain.

Look, if you're going to look at this to jump, if you're going to look at this from like a, just a neutral standpoint, apolitical. Trump didn't submit, you know, never gave his tax returns. Right, Right. So it's really just a matter of I just don't care about all those things. I just care about how does it impact me and the people I love.

Yeah.

And so, like, if the bottom line is the thing that's troubling about the cognitive test is like, technically this person is control of nuclear powers. However, the thing is being, because he's built his organization, that is the cabinet and everyone around him, the staff so much, they make the decisions. So that's why we've kind of had A ho hum. Several years. Cause.

He'S not doing much and his staff is running it. So to the point all inmates, it's in their best interest to keep that going because they make the decisions. And so I'm not opposed to it. I just look at the track record and I just judge them based upon that. And I, I just, you know, I don't care about someone's personality, I don't care about their morality. I don't care about any of those things at president level. Other than, I guess from a morality standpoint. It does reflect sometimes on the country. And that's the part like with Trump, I just think he really fails in. Yeah. And that's what his biggest thing is. Like, do you want this guy really being representative of America?

Not really.

Yeah, but like the things he has done affects positive. Like we didn't have any wars. Like if you just stripped out like one thing. He kept us out of war. And he went and like went to North Korea and shook people's hand. Went to Russia and like kept. That's what the President's supposed to do.

Right.

And so that's what I judge them on. I hate his morality. I hate the. I'm sure he's corrupt to the core on so many different levels. From a moral standpoint, Trump. What?

Trump.

100%. Yeah.

I just want to.

Biden. They're all a bunch of.

Well, yes, I just want to clarify.

Those things, but like I just care about their policies because. Cause that actually impacts me.

Right.

And then, you know, with an asterisk, I would say next to it, like there are certain representations of our country and then like trickle downs from our leadership. But when there's. When there. It's kind of like a shadow government and like other people running it and not the actual President. Like we don't get a lot of impact from Biden because we hardly hear from him.

Yeah, right.

For some people, that's what they love. They just.

Yeah.

I want the president to shut up and never hear about him again. And that's fine. Like that's what they are going to vote for. Right. I vote for more of a perspective of like how are their policies gonna affect me and the people I love.

Yeah.

And that is like my team and Augusta Nation.

Yeah, totally.

And so that's how I would vote personally.

Yeah, that's fair. Do you think America as a whole on the world stage, do you think we have an image problem? Do you think we need to do some rebranding, get a new marketing campaign.

Out every country has its problems because every single politician's so corrupt and every government's corrupt. So, you know, yes, the US needs rebranding. They need rebranding back in the 50s, in the 40s, after they just dropped nuclear atom bombs on what is now one of our closest allies. Like, yeah, like every single country has problems. Totally. And so that's why I don't like to do politics because it's just like this ever ending, never ending, like laundry list issues and problems that like, are never going to be solved because we're human beings.

Yeah.

And they're going to have problems. Every leader has problems. And because they're so removed from like our day to day life, it's so easy just like to just shoot at them.

Yeah.

Because they're humans.

Yeah.

But like, ultimately, would I ever want that job? No. Like, I would have a lot of. I have a lot of problems and failures. Like, I try not to like shoot up at people. Like shoot at people because it's like, look, if I was in their shoes, people would have a lot of problems with me too.

So metaphorically shooting. Let's just be very clear. I want that on the record for you to. That on the record talking metaphorically.

Don't ban us from, from adsense.

Yeah. About shooting your shot. Not anything physical, no projectiles. Yeah, no, that makes sense. And, but I would, I'll push back on you in this, that you are a well educated, successful citizen of the United States. All right, let's just, let's reduce you to that. Okay. You should be the person though, that should be wanting to make change. Right. Like taking your civic duty and voting. I'm assuming you vote. Okay. But you should also be at the forefront of trying to ask for political change.

You could, you could flip that really easily that logic. You could say that the people that are not well educated, aren't white and are not male should be the ones looking for change too.

Right.

But.

And I'm not saying that's like a prerequisite. I'm not saying.

You're saying I'm an. I am enabled to be able.

You aren't able to. Yes, yes, yes.

I vote with my, my dollars.

Right, but so does that mean are you contributing to like, political campaigns? You're saying you vote with your dollars via the free market.

The free market, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would never give money to a politician.

Yeah, yeah. I, well, yeah, I couldn't imagine that. That's why I had to ask.

Never.

Yeah. It's just frustrating though, because like, someone like Yourself, you know, well educated, successful business person. And then obviously, you know, we're kind of piggybacking off the all in podcast. They talked about like, they all have like these great ideas for political reform and they're successful businessmen that, that like not saying I trust them, but I like listen to their advice. I think they're well thought and well read gentlemen. Like why don't they try to force more political change? Like play the hand and vote with their dollars? That is. But it's just, is it all just a cabal of corruption at this point?

It's all just a matter of like, what you're saying is use your influence to be able to.

To change other people's minds.

Yeah.

And so the bottom line is their vote is the same amount as someone else has. No money, no education, citizen in the US So from a numbers perspective, quote, unquote, doesn't really matter.

The question becomes, should those people use their power to change the mind of other individuals? Because in my opinion, it could be argued. It could be argued. I wouldn't say my opinion. It could be argued that like they should not say anything because the per. The individual citizen should be making a judgment call based upon direct data from like say a debate or, or like what the policies are of the candidates instead of so and so thinks like an actor thinks. Like that just boggles my mind.

Yeah.

When people are like, oh, because this actor thinks they're going to vote for this, I'm going to vote for them.

Yeah.

Are you out of your mind? Like if you just shut up and not vote, it'd be so much better because you have no idea what the policies are. No idea whatsoever.

Yeah.

And so I don't, I don't believe necessarily like even like that's why for myself, like, I don't really share a lot about politics because like I don't change someone's mind. I don't have all the information I could in 10 years, I find out this person's corrupt and completely messed up.

Yeah.

So it's just like, hey, look, these are the policies and like the agenda that I believe in. Right. I believe in free market capitalism. I believe like low inflation, let the market determine things and that anytime the government gets involved, bad things happen. Keep us out of war.

Yeah.

Because no one should be dying over the stupid things that are happening inside of a room of politicians. And that's all I care about.

Yeah.

Keep me out of war.

Yeah.

Make sure the economy's doing okay. Keep gas prices low enough. Don't do Stupid things around green energy garbage. That's a bunch of waste of money. Like, that's my, my bigger thing.

Yeah. How do you feel about the exterior spending? That's a real hot button issue right now that a lot of people are bringing up is like, how much funding the Biden presidency has given to other countries, I. E. Ukraine.

It's politics, dude. It's nuts. It's so stupid.

But like, how do you feel about, on a personal level, like, should. What percentage of the US budget should go to foreign aid?

100%. Once we are debt free, we are debt free.

Once we're cash flowing.

Yeah, once we're cash flowing, it'd be like any business I'd go into, like, oh man, I've got to give so and so money and so and so. Like, wait a second, dude, you're $33 trillion in debt and you're losing trillions every year and it's growing. Let's focus on like, what's going on here.

Totally. But, but then what does that. Like, this is just all hypotheticals, but it's fun at least for me. And if you, if you're not having fun, we can change topics, like what happens to the world economy? Like, let's, let's just say like chaos happens. All right. RFK is our president or something.

I think that would be chaos.

Yeah, yeah.

Why?

Because I think the two party system would like not let it happen. We just have, we would just have a 6 to 12 month, like circus court of like, there's not like the Biden campaign saying it wasn't a real election, the Trump campaign saying he was robbed. And like, we would have 12 months of just nothing getting done, of just circus courts and allegations and blame games. And like the Senate would hold out and then they'd shut down the government again. And then the average citizen is like, can I just like pay less in taxes? Like that's what I mean by chaos.

You don't think a third party would be a good thing?

I think it is a good thing. But, but let's just. I don't, I'm not saying. I was just using RFK as an example. Let's say RF hops in the office and then like January 7th next year he goes, all right, executive orders, executive order. No more spending is going outside of the U.S. like, what happens to the world economy?

Yeah.

Like, what are your thoughts on that?

Like, I don't think that things should be done that hastily. Right. Like, if someone was to get in there. The problem is in part, like, the pro and the, the good and the bad of democracy is like the four year thing is tough because it doesn't take like you can't change it. Make a lot of changes in 300 million plus people in four years and like change budgets and change departments and restructure things.

So it sounds like the government's too big.

Oh, it's.

Interesting thought. If it can't be done quickly, I.

Would be a huge fan of a third party system. Yeah, third party, like the two parties is completely broken. It's all messed up the way the funding works.

You should vote party lines at this point.

That's so dumb. It's so stupid.

Dude. If that, if that isn't like, if that doesn't make you feel like the system is broken, like, then you should reevaluate how you assess it because like essentially like when, when November comes, like I already know where I'm voting and it's like it doesn't matter because like it's just a two party system and I'm going to vote party lines. But that's, that's wrong. And it's like the conversation people have is like, these are our best two options or these are our three best options. Like this is bad. Right? And then the thought is like, well maybe RFK comes in, stirs the pot, but does he just take votes from the right or Trump in this case? He's the leading candidate at this point.

They lose to Biden and then they.

Lose to Biden, which in my opinion I feel like is probably the worst situation. I'm just going to speak candidly. I would rather have someone that actually is like in control of the presidency and not run by the staffers in the background. So yeah, the, the three party system I think is good. Well, not even a three party system, just a more open ended system.

I just hate the idea of having Democrats and Republicans. I just want what policies are being made. Like I'm not. I hate you being labeled as conservative. It's like, look, I just have certain policies that I think are positive for the country and the people I love and myself.

Yeah.

And that's how I should be voting. Not based upon like the color of your tie. Totally. It's just, it just boggles my brain. And so I think that the third party, like I think in 50 years we'll have more than two parties because people will go get so sick and tired of what's happening and like seeing what's happening. But this is the bottom line. Every country has its problems when it comes to politics and ours isn't as bad as a lot of others.

That's fair.

We are in it. And we are going to cast stones inside of our little, like, ivory tower. But like, there's countries where it's a complete kangaroo court. It's completely rigged, it's completely messed up. There's no democracy, there's no voting. So, like, hey, it's comparatively not that bad. I don't think me having an opinion on it is going to change anything. So I'm just like, look, I'm going to look at anyone that's running and look at their policies and strictly vote based on that. If there was a blue candidate that came in and said the things that I believe in from a policy perspective, that would help me and the people I love, I would vote for them 100%. I don't care if you call me a liberal or whatever. I'm just going to vote based on what they're totally. I get really concerned when it's like, oh, oh, we're not going to have any debates because. And we're not going to actually see what they actually believe in because, you know, now they're, they're senile and they're past their 80s. Like, I don't think that's right. Yeah, we don't, we can't judge them based upon their policies. And so then it just becomes blue versus red.

Totally.

Like with a general red versus general blue policies. And then they have to, they must, in order to be able to be elected, they have to conform to those party lines. Like the general, like, oh, like, we spend money. We don't spend money. We care about these people. We don't care about these people. Like, that's stupid. Yeah, I think it should be like, okay, candidate number one, here's what they believe in, here's their main agenda. Here's what they do in office the first 30 days. Vote for them. Okay, candidate number two and like strip all everything else and then judge them. It'll never happen.

So, yeah, I think it's, I think too, like, as dumb as this sounds, like most people in the presidential election just vote party lines. It is what it is. Like wherever you typically lean, wherever you typically land, that's how you're voting. You don't care about the policy, you don't care who the person is. You just rip the vote. But I will say where people need to focus also too is like on their state and local elections. I can say, because I do enjoy, like, the political side of things is usually My ballot is pretty split when it comes to local elections because I actually like get those voters pamphlets and you think I'm, this is probably dumb but I actually like read them and then I talk to my buddies about it and I'm like, how, what are you. Do you know about this person? Like what about this policy? And then it's like. And then I'm more split. I'm not party lines when it comes to local elections because I actually look at like who that person is, how much do they know my community and what do they want to do for my community. Great. I don't care if your social agenda doesn't line up with mine. This position is not a social position. So I'm going to vote for you.

And so I typically see the, the local spending being more efficient because it's more, it's a more targeted.

Yeah.

So like them. So for example, the one we've been talking about in the office is like a skate park coming in.

Oh cool.

That's a big deal for Ferndale.

Yeah.

Right. And like it's going to impact the people in the office more than like some fringe loophole in the tax IRS code that, that is on a national level that they're spending billions of dollars trying to give rebates on or whatever.

Yeah.

So like I think local politics, everyone should be focused on.

Right.

Because it moves the needle for us as individuals the most.

Yeah.

And I think that's like a good thing to do. And that's. I agree. Like I think spending in general is usually looked on as more liberal.

Yeah.

But like again, I hate even the ideology. It's like is this money going to be going to be put to good use?

Yeah.

If. Yes. Yes, let's do it. If it's wasteful. No, totally really basic. And I think in general localized spending is more efficient.

Yeah.

And so I would agree with you.

Yeah, I agree with that. That's, that's really all I wanted to like touch on. I just want to get your thoughts. Trying to get your opinions, I guess.

Do you.

How do you feel about RFK though? Like what do you know much about him?

Or I'd be voting simply because I don't like the two party system. Yeah. And like to your point though, that could skew the results of who actually gets elected. And so that's where you have like play that white. You know what the best of. No, both worlds. No, no. The worst of two evils. Which one's the worst one? Right. And so but I don't know whether or not. I vote for him or not. It's like, I don't like the two party system. Yeah. I don't like that at all. I think the president. It'd be really cool if it was like, the president is independent, like, all the time.

Yeah.

Like, you can't have party lines. It'll never happen, though, because we have everything else based on red and blue. Like everything from local to all the way to the top. And it's all backed by money and it's entrenched. So it's just not going to change.

Yeah.

I was speaking of politics. Have you seen Tucker Carlson and Putin do their interview? Let's go.

We can talk about that.

I'm down.

I'm down. Okay, so Putin. So this is a political heavy episode.

Putin.

Tucker Carlson. All right, what, what did you think? Give me the brief. Like, what, what was your gut reaction to it?

I just think that everyone should talk to everyone. I think communication would solve a lot of problems.

Yeah.

And so whether you think that Tucker is being too nice to the Russians or you think that and you think that Putin's like the worst man alive and, you know, should be convicted of war crimes, or if you think that, like, it's all the US Fault, it doesn't really matter. I just think people should talk.

Yeah.

Like, I just think that 90% of conflicts could be solved if you just got people in a room and had a good conversation. Yeah. I just generally believe that, like, employee problems, like, lots of things, you just communicate.

Yeah.

And so that's like, that's where I believe that Trump got points, is like, he went to our worst enemies and talked to them.

Yeah.

You have to agree with people on everything. But, like, just talk to them. Like, where are you at? Where am I at? Okay. Is there any compromise in the middle? Because if you don't compromise, you will lead to war, whether it be in a relationship or in actual, like, people are dying. Like, I just don't. I just, I just can't fathom the thought that a leader, like, I will have other people die for my political agenda. Tens of thousands of people are going to die and millions of people are going to suffer and billions of dollars are going to be spent because I have a disagreement with someone I'm not willing to talk about, talk with. Right. Like, this boggles my brain totally. Like, that is so immature. That's why I think every politician is, like, is just absolutely corrupt to the core. Because, like, you actually believe your thought process based on history or like, they said this or they're not allowing me to. That deserves people to die. Mm. Like, that just.

Stupid, dude.

No, I agree.

So I don't agree, like, with Putin, but I also don't agree with the fact that, like, we can't get, like, as leaders, talk to each other and, like, figure out a compromise and, like, figure out what you want and what do I want? And, like, where am I misunderstanding you and, like, how can we work together? Like, I just think it's absolutely insane, dude.

Yeah.

The fact that there's war just. Just boggles my brain.

Yeah. Well, there will always be war. We are corrupt.

People can't communicate.

We're corrupt as people. We want power. Right.

And we can't communicate.

Yeah.

It would literally that people would die over politicians. Disagreement with someone that they can't talk to.

My brain.

But then.

But.

But also, like, there are people you can't reason with.

Right.

And let's even like, war. You know, that's the. The worst of the atrocities. But even boil it down to, like, customer interactions or team interactions, like, there are just people you cannot communicate with. So what do you do then?

Well, do you go to the person's house if they don't pay you and shoot them? No. You're like, okay, we will. We will part ways or we're not.

Going to do service for you, send you to collections.

Right. It's like, okay, we're not going to do trade with you anymore, for example, or whatever. Like, if you need to do those things, great.

But, like, embargoes.

Yeah. Or just by having an agreement. Okay. Like, we will sacrifice this. You're going to have to sacrifice that.

Well, it's a Cuban missile crisis is a good example. It was just like, all right, well, we're just cutting off trade.

Yeah.

Like, you're done.

Which is a form of war. Right. And I don't believe in economics.

It's a financial war.

Yeah. Right. Like, so, like, I believe in free trade because if it is economically incentivized to go to another country, you should. But as soon as that country has something against me and doesn't just make it better in your country to do business there. Right. Like, no one would be trying to import stuff from. From outside the US if we didn't have inflation and it was so expensive to do everything here. And if we could actually mine and we could actually build things and we could actually hire people without being like, our hands tied over every little thing. So, you know, just make it better here instead of focusing on, like, fighting the war, just spend all that money on, like economic development and education and like building, building projects, like solve our homeless crisis here before we go fix some stupid garbage and never ending war in the Middle east, like just stick it out here.

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. On, on the Putin interview specifically.

Yes, sir.

I want to be very clear about what I'm about to say. All right. I want to make sure people understand this. When I watched it, I watched it through the lens of if I had zero context. Okay, how, like, how do I view this interaction?

Yeah.

Like, let's say I have zero context. I know who, Tucker Carlson. And I'm like, okay, he's not, he's not, you know, going to lie or like, try to manipulate this interview. He's just interviewing. You're assuming this world leader. This is my assumption. That's the lens I tried to watch it through. Putin comes off as a very sympathetic character.

Yeah.

In that, in that interview, in that bubble. Through that, through that lens. However, given the context, it's clear that he's just like playing political mind games. But he, he handled it well. And that's where you could see, like, why he is such a powerful leader and why maybe people who disagree with him in Western, Western societies, European US Are opposed to him is because he is clearly like a fantastic manipulator and like bending his words. And KGB do that. Yeah, he's, he, he came across very sympathetic. He, he spun the questions the way he wanted to spin them. I wonder how much. I don't know what Tucker said. Did they give him the list of questions beforehand? I, I have to imagine they had to.

I would imagine. I don't know.

Like, I just, I don't think you get to come to Russia and talk to the President without saying what you're going to talk about first. Be interesting.

I just think it's insane that a journalist is doing that and not the President of the United States.

Well, yeah, and, and, and they're trying to suppress it too. Like you. I'm sure you saw that. Well, like, mainstream media was like, oh, like you shouldn't watch the interview. Like, it's all going to be like propaganda and like this, that and the other. And it's like, it's just like it's.

Journalism immediately goes to Tucker Carlson News Network.

Yeah, totally. Yeah. Tucker CarlsonNetwork.com like this. I almost got overloaded. They said, yeah. And like, and then Elon basically tweeted. He was like, I will not suppress this on Twitter.

Yeah.

Like a mainstream media will try to suppress this interview. Like, it is important that people see this.

Communication should just flow, like.

Right.

That's why anytime the government gets involved, dude, they mess stuff up.

Yeah. It's like, anytime someone says, you should not listen to this person, I feel like red flag should go off.

Oh, that's why everyone goes. That's what I'm saying. Like, as soon as you say, don't do this, everyone's gonna go do it.

Right.

So why not just, like, make it where everyone can do exactly what they think is right?

Yeah.

And stop suppressing stuff and stop, like, getting involved at all.

Yeah. It'd be like your boss being like, oh, no, no, no. Like, you don't need to contact the payroll people. I'll fix your paycheck.

Yeah.

It's like, no. Like, it's my right. Like, I want to ask the payroll person why my paycheck's not accurate. You know, it's like, just go find it out for yourself.

Yeah.

So, yeah, I think I liked it. I like the transparency. I think that Tucker did phenomenal at, like, making it conversational, and I feel like he made Putin feel comfortable and in control, which someone like that. You do need to give that. You need to give that slack of. You are the power player here, and I am the lowly interviewer, and I thought he. He played that dynamic very well.

Yeah.

So it was fascinating. I want to see him do more interviews just like other world leaders. Because communication is important, like you said.

I think, like, every. If you actually look at, like, okay, why does government exist? It's like, humanity should be moving forward, and in order to see progress, you need to communicate. So, like, let's put our leaders in the same room. Like, that's why you have the UN and you have all these organizations and NATO and all the rest of it. It's like, okay, why can't we just all say, we're human beings and we communicate.

Yeah.

And, like, the leaders should be moving humanity forward, not, like, let's all point a bunch of guns and, like, spend. If you just have all the energy, time, money, everything that goes into war and, like, missiles and everything is like, okay, let's communicate about things. And, like, let's all define, like, what. Where do we go shoot people up?

Yeah.

What's the line that they cross that we all go shoot them up.

Yeah.

Right. And then it's like, well, then it gets corrupt because you got things like NATO, and, like, it's who's in, who's out, who's in the club, who's not. So it just stinks that, like, you can have a president where, like, live streams every day to the population, and you can submit questions that get voted up and, like, the top question gets answered. That would be sick. I'd be like, hey, Elon, bro, let's do this every single day. I'm gonna hop on live stream. Yeah, Mike Minutes, Mastermind.

Yeah, dude, let's go.

And everyone can put their comment. Every human being can put their comment their question and get voted up or down. And I will answer them. I'm gonna do it for 30 minutes a day. Then every month, I'm gonna go visit a different country. I'm gonna talk to the. And we're gonna do a live stream of us talking.

Yeah.

And it could be our worst enemy. Like, I just. I don't just. It will never happen. It's just like, the euphoric, like.

Yeah, yeah.

It just boggles my mind that people can literally die, like, have other people die for them over their political agendas. Like, disagreements with people that they are not willing to talk about. Talk with. So dope.

Yeah, it is. It is interesting.

Which is a very simplistic way of looking at things. I know there's so many, you know, nuances to, like, history and what has been done and said in the past, but if you strip it down, ultimately it is. We're living on the same planet. Like, can we not get along? Yeah. Oh, like, there's water between us, therefore we are enemies.

Yeah, totally.

Like, that's just so stupid.

If you had to pick right now, if you know Mike and he's got to pick the next president, who are you picking?

Like, any human being.

Any human being.

Oh, brother.

I know.

It's a. You're asking me to make a moral judgment on someone's policies and their reputation.

It's more. It's just a fun question. No one's going to hold you to it. I'll give my answer to.

I don't.

I don't have one.

Yeah, you give me an answer first.

Oh, gosh. It's a hard question.

I don't know.

Top my head. Yeah, it's tough. It's definitely not Dwayne the Rock Johnson. I could say that the question really.

Becomes, do you judge them based on moral character or do you judge them based on policies? And that's the part where it's like, yeah, you want to drain the swamp. Yeah. You want people that aren't involved in Washington and have all connections, but also you want things done and get things accomplished, and you have experience and so that's where it's like, I don't believe in necessarily getting someone that has no idea what's going on.

Right.

And popping them. And, like, I have no idea about history and, like, all this stuff was talking about no idea what's going on. Like, I don't know, like, all what happened exactly with Khrutra and, like, all this other garbage.

Yeah, yeah.

You need someone that kind of knows that.

Right.

And that's who I would probably vote for. But then I'd also be looking at, like, who's willing to cross party lines and who's willing to just get things done and is willing to compromise to get. Get things done for the good of the whole. And that's just a very difficult person to judge without seeing them do anything. So, like, it's easier to look back and see who was a good president versus who will be a good president, because I can look at their track record.

Yeah.

Probably Andrew Tate. No, no, no, no, no, no.

No. Never. That was a joke. That was a joke. That was a joke.

No, no, no, no. Not a chance. I feel like if I had, like. Okay, let's just do it. We have to pick. Like, the Secret Service storms in here. Like, you guys are picking, man. If I had to. Here's the first name that came up while you were talking. Okay, let me think. Yeah. Do you have a guess? Not the first name that came up. The first name that. As I was going through names, I was like, that makes sense. I'd be okay with that. I don't necessarily think he's the best choice, but I'd be okay with it.

A current politician?

No.

Oh, no.

Non politician.

No politician. Oh, dude, now it's so hard.

Oh, okay.

Now I have no idea.

I'm going.

Literally any human being.

Yeah. I'm going. I would go. I. I'd feel medium confident in Jocko. Jocko Willink. He has the military background.

Right.

So Commander in chief. That's an important part of the job. So foreign relations. I do, like, just.

It's a very politically correct answer.

I do. I also like his just general philosophy of extreme ownership.

Right.

We practice that at Augusta. It's a core value we have. And I think he's a good communicator. I do think. I have listened to some of his podcasts on, like, foreign policy. I do think because he has a military background, he might be a little gung ho for me. I think he's very pro military operations and maybe doesn't fully understand some of the historical Context of these situations based on some of the comments I've heard him make on Ukraine and Israel, Palestine. But I think he would be a good representative of America. He's a clear communicator and I agree with a lot of, like, his core tenants as a person and be kind of cool every day on Instagram to get, you know, his watch picture in the Oval Office just up before the enemy.

Take that old man's picture down, get after it. Yeah.

Take down Jimmy Carter, put up a pull up bar, do morning pull ups, doing morning wad. I think I'd go jocko if I had to pick right now. If someone forced me to pick, that's. That's where I'm going. I'm not saying it's the best choice and I'm not saying I think he's the greatest or gonna be the best president. I'm just saying if I had to pick right now. It's an interesting thought exercise.

Oh, man.

You're probably gonna go business wise.

No, I'm not. No. Because I really do believe they need to have.

Political understanding.

Yeah.

Like, like there's so many facets of being a leader at that level that cannot be discounted. Like, you need to understand social stuff, you need history, you understand economics, you need to be able to understand so many different elements. And again, I am not looking for someone that is actually capable in all those areas. I'm looking for someone that I believe would be able to get things done and listen to all their constituents and people and then like, make a decision and get collective buy in because they're a good salesperson. Yeah. And like, that's the part that's hard. And so, like, that's the reason Trump fails. He's so abrasive. He can't sell anyone and getting stuff done.

Right.

And so if he has a divided Senate or House, like, he's not able to be like, okay, guys, like, let's like compromise. And he just calls people names and like a stupid.

Totally. Yeah.

And so, like, if you just, if you could take Trump's policies and marry, marry it with like, Barack Obama's like.

Diplomacy and charisma, that'd be the perfect person.

And so is there any perfect person that hops out? Me. Not really, but I do. I value people that are willing to, to talk to other people. And that's why Trump won in my books. He kept us out of war and he wouldn't talk to all of our enemies.

Yeah.

And so someone like Tucker going and doing what he did, that would Be, like, the number one thing I'd be looking for in a president. Right. Is, like, who is willing to go talk to our foes and enemies and come to some sort of agreement and, like, see their side of the story. Cause, like. Yeah. Whether that is Tucker. No, I don't think so. But, like, someone like that that is willing to, like, be a little risky, be a little bit on the edge and, like, push the boundaries of, like, let's figure out compromising to be able to figure out, like, stopping wars and, like, economic prosperity for all of mankind, I think more holistically. And so the problem is, you have someone like Trump that is so abrasive. If he could just take his policies and then be more diplomatic. Yeah. A lot would get done. Mm. And so I think my personal marriage between Barack Obama and Trump.

Give me a name. Who is that person?

There's really no. That comes to mind. I would say. I would say literally just top of mind, because it's recently happened. Tucker. Because he went and did that.

Yeah.

Like, that was a huge thing.

The political background is able to go, just talk.

I don't care if you come to a commerce. I don't care. But let everyone make a judgment based on pure data and get around the whole, like, synthesized and filtered media. Like, just see it live. Like, let Putin talk, give our opinion. Here's. Okay, let's come. Like, if he actually had the power, like, okay, can we make a compromise? Right. Why is Joe Biden not in that room with. With, like, you could present. Prevent so much death.

Yeah.

And, like, billions of dollars being spent if we just, like, had a conversation.

Yeah.

So I'm not saying it's Tucker, but someone like that. And then I would say, like, the.

Perfect person would be the two. You just dodged the question.

Like, Barack Obama crushed it on diplomacy.

Totally.

Right. Like, there's so many elements of him that are positive, but I don't agree with a lot of the. Necessarily the. The policies. Right. Like, he really. Like, there's certain things that I just don't agree with. I could care less about the, like, moral stuff, honestly, because, like, it's not. Like, everyone's gonna have a different moral code. And, like, whether trending or culture, like, stuff moves around and, like, what's popular, I don't care. It's just, like, I'm not gonna change. Like, this is what I believe in. Like, I don't really care about all this stuff.

I.

She's like, just give me freedom, and we're good.

Yeah. Liberty or death. You're old school.

Just give me freedom and you do whatever you want. I don't care about what genders or colors or any of that garbage. Just, like, just let me have freedom.

Yeah.

And that's what America's known for, and that's what, like, we can't get away from. And that's ultimately, like, that would be the defining judgment of a president, in my opinion, is like, if you take away my freedoms, I have a big problem with that.

Totally.

So that's why in Covid, like, when you tell me, come and, like, threaten me that you're going to close down my, my, my gym, I'm like, sorry, no, no, no.

Yeah.

Like, threaten me with, like, lawsuits and going to jail twice, dude.

Yeah.

So, like, you know. Yeah. I went very red after that because I'm like, okay, I don't have guns now. I'm going to everything.

Come and take it.

Yeah. Just like, look, I'm Wasn't that way before. But, like, if you're going to take away my freedoms, that is the ultimate, like, you cannot cross that line. That's why I live in the United States of America.

That's good. All right, so Willink Carlson 2024. That's our pick. That'd be a ticket. That would be a ticket. Right.

Do you think Vivek is going to be the vice president?

Yeah, if Trump is the nominee, yes. I think. I think he's the obvious frontrunner. I don't understand why they would pull a dark horse right now. It's definitely not Nikki Haley. Trump hates Nikki Haley, which is so weird. It's definitely not Desantis. Trump also hates DeSantis. Or at least they butt heads. Yeah, they publicly butt heads.

So they were the front runners outside of him.

Yeah.

Literally, if they could have been crushing it in the polls, Trump would have turned on him and now wouldn't be able to. Vice president.

Yeah.

He's such a child.

I don't know who he picks that gets him more poll more than Vivek. Because Vivek gives him the. The youth poll.

Right.

I think Vivek communicates. Yeah. And business. But I think Vivek communicates very clearly on, like, TikTok and Instagram. He's very socially aware, and I think that massively helps Trump attack a younger generation that typically, statistically speaking, is going to go party lines.

He would have been good. He. He would be a good person going, I think, communicate with other countries.

Yes.

I think he's a very good communicator. I've seen him when People disagree with him and he, like, lets the security, like, shut up. Like, I want to hear them out. Yes. And it actually addresses their questions.

Yeah.

He's so good with words. He's the diplomatic person.

Yeah.

I don't think underneath a Trump presidency, the vice president has any power whatsoever. And so that's. That's where it's like, I don't think there's going to be that perfect marriage, because I think he's more like Barack Obama in diplomacy. And, like, if, If. If Trump could get along with his vice president, actually work together, I think they'd be a good, good pair.

Yeah. And I think Vivek could handle the public facing stuff very well. Not. Not just the. The foreign diplomacy, because I think Trump would never give that up. He's like, I'm the commander in chief. Like, I am meeting with them. But I think having Vivek communicate his message and policy more clearly and a little bit more politely, the opposite would be fantastic. Yeah.

The chief operating officer, that's what they should be. Be doing. But unfortunately, Trump will just stifle that person. The fact that what he did to Mike Pence, regardless of whether or not you think politically, you don't throw your COO under the bus. Right. You just don't do that. Anyone coming up underneath Trump is gonna feel that always on them, because what he did to Mike Pence. And so I don't care if you disagree with him, don't do that publicly anyways. We're getting way off track.

I love it. I love when I get you on politics. All right, let's wrap it up. Not financial advice. Do you have any for the people?

Well, first off, we gotta know if people actually like to hear us talk about politics. Okay. The most uneducated people of politics.

Yeah. If you don't want to talk politics, we won't.

Yeah. Just be like, hey, do you like politics? I'm mixed in. Because, like, no one likes it. Just politics. We're not ever gonna do that.

No, no, no, no.

We will resign from the podcast.

Yeah.

No, no, no. But if we have an episode every 10, because we're going to 20, 24, like, over the next six months. This would be a topic that we could cover, say, once a month. Yeah. Right. Would you like that?

Yes.

If you like it, I'll bring it.

Up either way, but we won't focus on it.

Okay.

Too much.

Give us, you know, because, I mean.

It'S an election year.

Just two uneducated politician idiots that have no idea what we're talking about.

Totally.

Okay. What was non financial advice?

I. It's just a simple one. It's very straightforward. Nothing crazy. Just go for a walk in the evening by yourself. No podcast, no headphones.

Oh, brutal.

It's nice. Now just let your mind clear or jog or run, whatever.

Okay.

But just do it. I've been doing that a little bit recently. It's really nice. Like a late night while it's dark.

Because Sarah's gone.

Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, my wife is out of town, so it makes it easier to like, hey, it's late. Like I'm going to leave the house, so. Yeah, but it's good.

Okay. My non financial advice.

I'm going to take a promotional one here. Okay. It's going to be go subscribe to home service. Home service millionaire. I'm bringing back the training and like the more whiteboardy type education stuff.

Yes.

It's. I enjoy it's low lift and I basically said I will just make it if I think of it. And so every two to three days I'll. I'll release something there that's more business in the weeds.

I'm excited for that. I'm a fan of the whiteboard. Bring back the whiteboard.

Bring it back.

All right, cool. That's a pod like and subscribe.

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I was trying to wrap up.