Mark Moyer Life after sports

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Welcome to the Mike Hartman Show. Mike is a performance coach and former Stanley cup champion with the New York Rangers. Topics on this show are focused around stories, mindset and champions. Mike will also go into details about helping you with your pain points and struggles and finding motivational solutions on how to have the mindset of a champion. Now, here's your host, Mike Hartman.

Hello everyone. Welcome to the Mike Hartman Show. This is Marc Moyer stepping in as a guest speaker. Super excited to be here. This podcast is absolutely fantastic. So many great speakers and experts and those who are offering motivation, inspiration, so much more. I highly encourage you to listen to all these episodes. They're all fantastic. But thanks again, Michael for having me on. I've known Michael for a couple years now. Fantastic guy, heart of gold, and truly is able to bring such important advice and inspiration to everybody he speaks with. So thanks again, Mike for having me on. I work with athletes and I help them transition from their sport to their next great step. And I found that unfortunately, many of the various leagues and teams and agents and so forth pretty much abandon athletes when they leave their sport, whether you're a student athlete or an Olympian or any sort of amateur or any sort of professional. And unfortunately, there's so much really, really bad advice out there. And I'm trying to change all that. And that's what inspired me to write my book, Win Again, which you can get on Amazon. There's a shameless plug, but it's really a job search playbook for athletes who are making that transition from their sport that they spent so many years training for and their next step, whatever it might be. Now, it's my firm opinion that everybody, whether you're an athlete or non athlete, deserves to wake up every morning fired up and excited to do what you want to do. I want you to be able to earn a very comfortable living doing something you love. And I find that almost everybody tends to settle. They settle for what they do and they're really taking what the market is providing them and offering them instead of being proactive. We're going to talk about that in a minute. But you know, I'm going to first focus on athletes because that's a lot of what I do. That's the coaching and training I've been doing. And although you could scratch out the word athlete and put in anything, I'm going to start with the athletes. So as an elite athlete, you've spent thousands and thousands of hours training for your sport. You've been up crack of dawn, you've trained like Crazy. You've worked out, you've eaten properly, you've followed a daily routine, you've competed. You've felt that adrenaline rush. You've had those teammates around you, and now either you've left or you're about to leave. And that's a startling change. It's really a big change in your life. You could have all the money in the world. You can have the houses, the cars, the fame and all that sort of thing. And maybe you like to play golf, and maybe you like to sign some autographs, but at the end of the day, you're missing the fans, you're missing that competition, the adrenaline rush, but also you're missing your family. And what I mean by family is your athletic family. So it's my personal feeling that you can do all kinds of different things to really make that transition much easier. One of them is really to almost take away the noise. And what I mean by that is that when you're playing and even when you retire, you're likely getting approached by all kinds of people that are going to tell you, hey, Jim. Hey, Sue. You'd be really great at Fill in the blank. You should have a restaurant. You should be in real estate. You should sell medical devices. You should do all these different things. And quite frankly, I would say, look, timeout. I'm not interested in hearing what you think I can do. I want to know what I can do, and I want to use certain types of exercises and assessments to really figure out what that is. Now, I think many of you already know that Mike Hartman, he's got a whole boatload of assessments that can absolutely help you with that. But I'm going to throw in a different one today that I think can be absolutely great. Now, look, right now, you're used to. You've been an elite athlete. You've been at the top of your game. But going forward, your biggest game, that you really need to prepare for and play, because it's the rest of your life. You know, it doesn't matter what age is that you retired. You're still retiring whether you're in your teens, 20s, 30s, maybe, if you're lucky, 40s, although that's super rare. You still have 40, 50, 60 years to live, right? So to me, you know, you've already developed so many amazing skills, traits and qualities. You know, you've, for example, you've overcome obstacles, you've led others to victory. You've trained your mind and your reflexes to be at the top of their game. You've been comfortable in front of a camera, you've been comfortable addressing the media, you've been completely comfortable performing in front of crowds. These are all skills that 95% of the public don't have. Non athletes have not had to do that before. So already, as an athlete, you come to, to the table with some tremendous skills and capabilities that non athletes just simply don't have. So it's really important that if you're listening to this, I want you to automatically know that. It's almost like I want you to flip that switch and regain that confidence. Because most athletes, when they retire from their sport and they go into a conference room filled with executives, they feel a little intimidated, like, gee, I don't belong in here. But what's interesting is that actually an executive may go into a locker room and be like, wait a minute, I don't belong in here. But the truth is that each shares so many qualities with each other. And I can't tell you how many athletes I've coached who have become absolutely amazing entrepreneurs, business owners, and working in the corporate world. So you're already coming to the table with a lot more than you may anticipate and think you have. But look, I think it's really important that you go about pursuing your next steps, whatever they may be, in a really smart fashion. But really one of the things I talk about is how important it is to be proactive and not reactive. So instead of listening to what other people are telling you you should be doing, it's important for you to take a step back and really assess and understand what it is that drives you to succeed, what makes you that top level competitor, and what makes you the person that's going to really crush that next career. So I'm going to show you real quickly an exercise that you can do. Not a physical one, but a mental one. But it's really, it's not hard, but it takes a little bit of time. But it's going to, I think it's going to open your eyes to a lot of different things. What I want you to do is take out a pad of paper and make a list of the top, I don't know, maybe 10, 15, 20, 25 accomplishments you've done throughout the course of your life and your career. Now, they can be athletic, they can be academic, it could be even some professional things you've done. It can be philanthropic, anything. It could even be something like, you know, if you built a really cool sandcastle on the beach or something. It's really important to just make a list of 25, 20, whatever it is, things you've done the course of your life that you're especially proud of, things that had a great positive result at the end and you felt really good about it. You, I don't care about your family, your friends, anybody else. It's important that you felt really good about these things. And if you're having a little trouble figuring out, gee, can I come up with 15 or 20 or 25, maybe chunk out your life in five or 10 year increments and think, okay, well, when I was maybe a preteen or something, what are some of the things that I did? Maybe I led a bunch of Boy Scouts up the hill, or maybe I led. Or maybe I designed this really cool, as I said, a sandcastle before. And maybe in your teens, your late teens, you did some other things. Maybe in your early 20s, academically, you did a really amazing paper. I don't know, it can be a whole, you know, so chunk things out. Early twenties, mid twenties, late twenties, thirties, forties, whatever it is, however old you are, chunk it out and then just write down those accomplishments. And then what I want you to do is take a look at those 20 or 25 and say, well, which are the top seven or eight or six, but somewhere around there and think to yourself, okay, these are the, these are the top, top ones. Well, okay, then what I want you to do is write down three or four sentences about each one that describe that describe why they were important and what are some of the fundamental elements that really made it a great accomplishment to you? So, for example, if you were a Boy Scout and you led a bunch of other Boy Scouts up a mountain, and it was maybe a little bit of a dangerous trail, but you figured out the right way to go and you led them there, well, what made that a great accomplishment to you? Well, the fact was that you showed leadership skills, right? You also devised a trail that really led to the greatest success. It may not have been the most direct path, but it was the safest one and the most efficient one. These are all skills and capabilities that you can bring with you to whatever it is you do next. So make a list of all of those six, seven or eight top accomplishments, and then list out the elements of each of those. Okay? And then what you'll see at the end of that exercise is a whole list of, again, common threads that run throughout all of them that really will sort of shine a spotlight on what you can be doing next. That's going to make you feel engaged, excited, and really be able to do something that's fulfilling you, and it's going to be something that you absolutely crush. So again, it might be that maybe out of, out of those six, seven or eight, maybe five of them, you demonstrated, you know, fantastic leadership skills. Or maybe you were a really good analyst and you looked to analyze a situation, or maybe you were really good at articulating things, or maybe you were someone who is in front of a lot of people and a lot of those things. I think what's really just important is to use it as a tool to measure what are some of the things that the fundamental elements that will make you succeed going forward. Now, from there, what I want you to do is really develop a target list of companies and industries you think you'd love to work in. I wouldn't worry at all about, gee, who's hiring, what's the market like now? That doesn't matter at all. When we do something that's proactive and not reactive, we. We don't care if people are hiring or not, if people have open jobs or not. That doesn't matter. With this, the way I coach people is really going after your dream job. Go after something you'd love to do. If you do it in the right way, you'll have a great chance of getting it. So take all those fundamental elements and then start thinking to yourself, well, you know, in the past, have you ever thought about somebody else who you say, gosh, I'd love to do that, or, gee, I'd love to work for this type of company. Maybe it's an athletic apparel company, maybe it's a real estate company, maybe it's financial services, maybe it's being a photographer, musician, in the arts, whatever. But think to yourself, well, make a list of all the types of positions and companies you'd love to work for. List the companies by name and list the possessions by just kind of the functions and so forth. I think what you're going to find that is, is if you list perhaps 30 or 40 companies, it can be Nike, it could be Lululemon, it could be the NBA, it can be JP Morgan, it could be a real estate company, doesn't matter. Make a list of the companies that you think, gee, it'd be really cool to be part of their team, and maybe it's starting your own company too. But make a list of these things and then make a list of the types of positions you think you'd love to have. And if you make a list of 40 companies, and let's say you have five positions you think you'd love to do at each of those companies. Now you suddenly have a list of 200. That's right, 200 jobs that you would absolutely love to do. At least you think you would. So instead of worrying so much about what is, you know, what are some of the jobs being listed on the Internet and who's hiring and all that kind of stuff, that doesn't matter. Because when you take a look at that list of 200 jobs, you're going to find that at any given moment, at least 5, 10, 15 or 20 are hiring and maybe more. And all you need to do is to make the right connections to get in there. Now, what I'm doing in these few minutes here is just speeding through the coaching process that I talk about in the book Win Again. Because it's really important for you to just get a taste of the fact that you can absolutely be doing again something you love doing if you're proactive and you go for it. So once you've developed this target list of companies and positions, then it's all about how do you network your way into those? And, you know, you may be saying, well, Mark, I don't know anybody at these companies. It doesn't matter. The most, you know, to me, the lowest hanging fruit on the Internet today is LinkedIn. Because on LinkedIn you can be connecting with all kinds of impressive people. I've connected with thousands of professional athletes, retired athletes, you know, any type of athlete, corporate C level people. I've connected with people in every sort of industry and area. I've connected with fellow alumni from where I went to college. I've connected with other hockey players, other rugby players. I've connected with a wide variety of people that I want to be connected to. I'm reaching out to them and making it so instead of being reactive and waiting for people to connect with you, you're going to be the one that's going after them. And we're not going to talk today about how to develop a really amazing LinkedIn profile, because that's a lot to talk about and a whole other conversation. But really what I wanted to talk to you today about was just the idea that if you start reaching out to the right people in the right way and you have the right messaging that draws them towards you, that they want to be connected to you, right? And you start a dialogue that basically becomes a professional relationship, a friendship. But it's so important to start developing and growing your network, leveraging the fact that maybe these people were fans of yours or fans of the team that you played for, or fans of the sport you played. But now you're going much deeper because you're no longer the athlete now. You're going to be the successful business person going forward. So it's so important to start developing and growing a very large network of people that are going to be basically your business fans. And that's what you want. You want people that are going to be rooting for you to succeed in business going forward. So taking this big step back, just to recap a couple things. Number one, it's really, you know, you bring so many incredible skills and capabilities to the table, to any job, to any company, to any business, to anything that you've developed as an athlete. There's so many things, and it's really important that you know that. And then from there, it's really starting to figure out, well, what is it that I'd love to do next? And you decide, don't let someone else decide that for you. And the way you do that, the way you decide what you love to do, is taking that, that assessment that I talked about earlier, where you write down all your accomplishments, then you figure out the top six, seven or eight, you've drilled deeper into each of those and decide, okay, well, here are some of the fundamental elements. Here's some of the common threads that I, that I really exhibited and that I had that really made me successful for those specific accomplishments. And then from there, if you take those, you're going to find that if you have those in your next role, then you're going to be wildly successful, super happy and really thrilled that you're the one calling the shots. So from there, it's all about then thinking, okay, well, taking some of those things, who are some of the companies I'd love to work for, who are some of the, the types of jobs you'd love to have and what you're going to find, by the way, and this happens almost all the time with the other people that I've worked with, is that typically you won't end up working for or with one of the companies on your original list. It ends up being a company that you've never heard of today, but it's going to be a company that ends up absolutely blowing your mind because you're saying, oh my gosh, these guys are amazing. How come I never heard of them? And then you're off and running from there. So from there, developing that target list, then really working on a personal marketing pitch that ends up leading to developing a really super strong network and really leaning on LinkedIn. It's an incredibly amazing not just a networking tool, but a research tool. And from that point, then it's all about once you've developed that network, really learning what to say to those people, how to say it to them, when to say it to them, when to follow up with them, and how to turn those initial conversations into meetings that turn into interviews, and then turned into eventually an offer or an offer from someone to do business with you if you're starting your own company. So I'm cramming a lot in here. There's so much more to tell, but please feel free to reach out to me anytime. You can go to my website. It's winagainacademy.com winagainacademy.com you can reach out to me at markinaganacademy.com by email. Would love to hear from you. Would love to have you join some of the Winnigan Clubroom events that I host. These are live, interactive and virtual online events. The technology is like something you've never seen before, allowing you to move from table to table and meet some fantastic people. Would love to have you join those events and I really, truly appreciate it. Michael Hartman, you're a good friend and a superb guy. I really appreciate the opportunity to be on your show. I hope that this has been somewhat valuable to everybody listening, but always happy to chat some more. Please reach out to me. And thanks again, Mike. This has been the Mike Hartman show and my name is Marc Moyer. Have a great day.

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