
Natalie Fisher argues that landing top jobs requires strategic networking over mass resume submissions, and treating interviews as two-way conversations where you ask questions about the company's challenges. She's secured offers from Amazon, FLIR Systems, and top consulting firms using this approach and now coaches professionals through a 10-year blueprint covering networking, interviews, and salary negotiation.
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Hi, I'm Natalie Fisher, founder of AskNatalieFisher.com and author of the ebook Get Any Job You Want. I help young professionals redefine the common job search rules and beliefs that stand in the way of most people when they're out there looking to create a successful career. In other words, I help you find and land the dream job that you never thought you could. For real. So there are 2 big misconceptions when looking for an ideal job. The first one is that the black hole is the only option for applying, and it rarely works. If you haven't heard of the black hole method, it basically means submitting resumes through an online application system or an email address that's overloaded with thousands of resumes per day. For example, careers@companyname.com or hr@companyname.com, and then you're just waiting for responses, and this can be pretty frustrating. The second misconception is that the employer has all the power. So they're up here and the job seeker's down here. So the person offering up the value to fill the position, the job seeker, is at the mercy of whatever the employer decides. In this scenario, job seeker is the groveler and the employer is the king or queen up on a pedestal deciding whether or not you are worthy of the job. So with these beliefs, most people get stuck and they don't go nearly as far as they could in their careers and their lives. The simple truth is, if you want to be successful at getting top-level jobs at really good pay, you need to start with 2 things. The first thing is you need to think outside the box for when you're applying. For example, I use and I teach strategic networking as my main tool for getting interviews. And number 2 is you need to change the way you think. So instead of thinking like a groveling job seeker that's hoping that they'll like you, you need to start thinking like a highly valued and highly paid consultant who goes in there with value to offer already. Ever since I was very young, I just loved going for interviews. Mock interviews in high school or college or you name it. Real job interviews were my favorite. I was never nervous. I was always stoked and ready to go. I would attend the employment seminars for fun, even if it wasn't a requirement. People would ask me why. My friends would be like, what's wrong with you? And anyone I told would always look at me like I was a little crazy. I would tell them that I really liked interviewing because I get to talk about myself for a whole entire hour and I get to put on my nicest outfit. So it worked out pretty well for me. Everyone loves talking about themselves, right? Then it hit me. Engaging the interviewer in a conversation about themselves, their problems, their company made them even more engaged and interested in the conversation. Because in contrast to everyone else, all the other candidates that they speak to just go into answering the questions and that's all they do. So I started asking more questions. I would always answer, but I would always go deeper, and sometimes I even asked the questions back if they were good questions. They'd ask me, What would your coworkers say about you? And I'd answer the question first, and then I'd ask them, well, what would your employees say about you as a boss? I would get some really interesting answers, and sometimes they'd be caught off guard, but I found that in general they really liked it. I would get deeply curious about what stressed them out and what their main priorities were at the time. I'd ask questions like, if I were hired, what would the top 3 things that I would start with right away be? I'd even ask where they were from and why they liked working for the company themselves. And then my skills flourished. My interview skills flourished. I began to get requests from people who wanted help from me. They wanted help on their job interviews, and the rest is history. So who am I really, and what qualifies me to be teaching this stuff? Well, besides being the girl who loves her interviews, I've also been repeatedly successful for myself and others in getting high-quality job offers throughout my career so far. I've worked at some top-level companies, including FLIR Systems, Amazon, X Matters, AbeBooks, some top management consulting firms, and some top law firms, and some others. On my website, you can also see some of the talented professionals that I've been honored to help achieve things they never thought they could. And that is why I do what I do. My goal for you is if you ever find yourself in a situation where you're not happy in your current role, or you're without a direction, you're kind of lost, you don't feel trapped. I don't want you to ever feel like most people feel, where they feel trapped and they feel like it's so hard to get a job, because you know there's a proven blueprint you can follow. You just need to follow the steps, and that's where I come in. I've perfected the steps over 10 years of doing this for fun and for my career, and it's been the best journey I've ever taken. If you want to learn the system that I've been practicing for the last 10 years, including strategic networking, interviewing, salary conversations, and more, go ahead and click on the link below to get on the exclusive list. You'll receive my free ebook titled Get Any Job You Want, and the best part is we get to stay in touch. Thank you so much for watching, and I really look forward to connecting with you in the future. So you want to bring yourself to the interview. Why would you pretend to be someone else? Bring yourself to the interview. Lots of people just pretend to, you know, like numbers or something. So I did this once. It did not work out for me. They go, so what's your experience with payroll, Miss Fisher? And I said, I said, um, I love payroll. Payroll, I would do it all day. I love it. And then I left and I'm like, actually, I really hate it. I hate numbers. Please don't make me near another numbers program. I'm really, really— I'd rather stick a rusty fork in my eye. So don't fake it. Be honest. Be upfront. You got it.
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