Starfish vs Conquistadors Apache Indians' Strategy #businessgrowth #decentralization #business

13 Nov 2025 · 2 min
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In this monologue, the speaker uses the historical example of the Apache Indians to illustrate the dynamics of a decentralized, "starfish" organization versus a centralized, hierarchical system. The Apache operated as loosely connected tribes with leaders (nantans) chosen by community consensus rather than imposed authority, making the group resilient to the removal of any single leader. The Spanish conquistadors eventually destabilized this structure by granting wealth (cattle) to the chiefs, intertwining property with leadership, which introduced corruption, created power hierarchies, and led to societal decay. The speaker argues that dismantling a starfish organization requires sophisticated tactics that target its core ideals, and draws parallels to modern business strategy, suggesting that decentralization can foster agility and growth, but also warns of vulnerabilities when external incentives corrupt the decentralized ethos.

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  1. But there was a very, very good example that resonated with me about Apache Indians and the conquistadors. What happened when they encountered a starfish organization, which was the Apache Indians, that were not led by, you know, a god, king, or a centralized person that has put themselves on the pedestal and then divulges orders. Once you bribe that person or cut the head off, then you will control the whole nation. However, the Apaches didn't work this way. They worked as small tribes, circles that moved fast, and they always had this, what they called nantans, chiefs that would be leaders, but they would be leaders by choice, by the community. The community would choose to follow these certain individuals because, well, what they did seemed to work well. So they were playing a game, okay, let's stick with this guy. Maybe he's bigger, maybe he can hunt better, I don't know, maybe he can protect us. And once they cut off the head of the Nantan, there would be another one sprouting up because the ideology of the Apache Indians were to be free. They didn't want to have any other agenda except to stay alive and live a happy life. So that's a very interesting thing. And how did they actually manage to— win after all because there is a way to kill this kind of a starfish organization as well. And what they did was kind of go after the ideal. So what they did, they gave these chiefs cattle, okay? So suddenly they had property. So it became a position of wealth and they mixed that with the leadership which led to corruption which led to the— Corruption. To the decay of the whole society, and then that's how they were eventually weeded out. But it goes to show that it takes a lot of effort, a lot of cleverness to actually kill this kind of starfish organization.

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