RJ Prince: I Was Terrified ofSmallRooms| TURNING CORNERS With RAY CANTGETRIGHT

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Giving culture for the culture, enlightening you folks. So many origin stories before RJ Prince is in the building. Okay, for those of you who are new to the channel, Turned Corners is about comedians that you may have heard of but you don't know a lot about them, or comedians that you need to know, you need to follow them. See, y'all think everybody's on The Breakfast Club, everybody's on Drink Champs. There are some comedians that's putting in work, they're grinding, And I want to introduce my boy RJ Prince to the building. What's going on, bro?

Man, it's going good, man. Thank you for having me, man.

I appreciate you, bro. I appreciate you. Before we even get started, do you remember the first time we met?

I feel like I do. I feel like that open mic. Yes, they tried to make it over.

Yes, they— come on now.

Uh, it was in Arlington, right?

It was in Arlington off of Matlock. I think that's it. And I remember there was an angry comedian there that was a lawyer.

Oh yeah, he was a host.

He was the host.

I don't know what kind of lawyer he was. The man was— he wore sweatpants with a button-up and tucked his shirt in. Can't you even— nah, you're not about to be my lawyer dressed like that, bro.

I, I remember it because it was, it was such a good day and we had so much fun. Shout out to TJ Evans.

Yeah, shout out.

TJ was doing his thing. Uh, Queen was there. Uh, I mean, we, we had it, we had a ball. But the thing I remembered about it is that we laughed so hard at the bar, and I was like, they're true comedians. Because some people just get up there, they tell jokes, they do their thing and whatever, but they don't understand everybody's not a true comedian, right? So let's just get started. I want people to get to know you. How long you been doing comedy? What got you started?

It's just, let's just have Man, I've been doing comedy since 2013, so that's 22— no, 22— 12 years. Wow, 12 years doing comedy. Uh, now it depends on who you ask because— so I started doing comedy 2013, was the first time I ever got on stage and did it, but it was at my dad's past wife anniversary. My dad's a pastor.

Yes.

So that was the first time I ever did stage.

Shout out to your dad. Shout out to me because I remember seeing him when we went to the chicken spot. I met him, I think it was Father's Day or something like that, and I was like, yo, that's the dad.

You can tell my daddy gonna pull up to a show. My daddy gonna pull up.

My dad.

Okay, my daddy, my momma gonna pull up.

Okay, I mean, I mean, cut you off, but I want to shout him out.

Shout out to him, man. Uh, yeah, he, he threw me on stage because it— he, uh, he went to— he went through these years of—

he didn't—

he, he don't like doing stuff that's like boring or what everybody else doing. So when he had these pastor and wife anniversaries, he didn't want to just have preaching. He like, every, every year was a theme. So there was a musical theme, there was a— was the '70s themes one year. So this particular year it was comedy, going to comedy. He, he hired two professional comedians. I think one of them was like on HBO at one point in time. Two professional comedians. My dad out of nowhere wanted me to host it. I want you to I'm like, Pop, I don't know how to do comedy. And you know, you got it. Yeah, you got it. And it's crazy how he, he saw something in me that I didn't even know myself. Because, uh, the anniversary started, I got up there and do I ripped, uh, my time. Every— I had timing, which I didn't know how important that was at the time because I didn't know, I didn't know what it was. I just, I instantly had timing. And I, uh, I found out over the years that as a kid, when I would watch comedy, I didn't know I was self-consciously studying it, you know. So that's why the first time I ever did it, it was all natural, like my walk, my talk, everything. So for like from then to all the way to about 2019, I was doing comedy, but it was only for like— it was only clean comedy. It was only for like uh, churches, birthday parties, stuff like that. So I wasn't really taking it serious. I really liked it, but I wasn't taking it serious. Uh, 2019, I was doing music at the time. Yes, I ain't gonna lie, Mr. Can't Get Right. I thought I was gonna be the biggest rapper that ever stepped out of Fort Worth, Jason.

Hold on, hold on. So, so I'm curious, what, what was your name?

RJ Prince. Never changed my name. My name was RJ Prince.

Was still That your, your, your rap name?

RJ Prince. Because here's the thing, I'm the prince of entertainment. I'm entertaining.

Okay, okay, talk your shit, talk your shit.

Prince of entertainment. So I always did music. So I went to this one place, this guy did monthly showcases. I went there, did music, and I killed it.

What helped— now, were you singing or you rapping?

I was rapping. Okay, I was rapping because I did more music than comedy. Comedy was only like special occasion, like somebody birthday party, something like that, or a church event. So I did, uh, this showcase, and he gave me like a full 20 minutes to do all my songs. It was cool, and the stage was dope because they had lights, smoke screen. Like, dude back there was killing it. So he looked like I was on BET Awards. It was, it was going, it was going down. Afterwards, I get off stage, this girl gets up and do comedy, and can't get right, she bombed. Horrible. And as I'm seeing her bomb, I'm like, oh, I can do better than this.

Yeah, yeah, I want to do it.

I don't know what it was about that moment, but I was like, I got to get on stage because I think it was the love of comedy. I'm like, you can't disrespect— yeah, respect comedy like this. So I told the guy, I said, hey man, can I come back next month to do comedy? He's like, you do comedy?

Yeah.

You're like, yeah, well, I'll put you on there. This was the first time I could do any joke I wanted because I was only doing clean comedy, so I couldn't— certain topics I couldn't talk about in church and stuff. So this is the first time I was doing it at this, this big bar. He had a big stage. I'm like, I can talk. So jokes that I had but I could never do, yeah, I'm gonna do all these jokes, man. I came back, killed it, uh, standing ovation. And I felt that was the time— I've been doing comedy before then, from 2013 to 2019. That, that time I fell in love with it.

Okay.

I was like, I don't— I want to do— I stopped doing music and everything. This is the only thing I want to do.

I like how you said that because the next question was, when did you fall in love with comedy? I stole that from the movie When Did You Fall in Love with Hip-Hop, you know what I'm saying? But because I always say there's a moment where comedians, where you say, you know what, this is me. This is something that I really want to do, and no matter what happens, I'm going to do this. Yeah. So that was the moment when you fell in love with comedy.

Oh yeah.

Uh, throughout your journey, have there been some moments on stage that you say, uh, might not want to do that again?

I promise you I'm not trying to be cocky when I say that, but it's very, it's very rare. Okay, I can't even think of a time because I have a good judgment in my head of like, okay, this joke, it might not get the pop I want, but this is a good joke. This is a good joke. Yeah, I might have to tweak it a little bit. Okay, but this is a good joke. So like a lot of times, that's why when I hang— when I have comedian friends, when we all together We would be on the road, like we'd be on the road, we about to do a show in front of 100, 200 people. I would, I would do a new joke that I just wrote. They're like, you just gonna do it? You ain't worked out, you ain't worked on it? No. I said, yeah, yeah, I'm the way it's in my head. I'm sure. And then my thing too, if I do a joke, it ain't hitting the way I want to, I'm going to the next joke.

A lot of comedians will be sitting there and you can tell, you can tell.

Yeah, they even say, oh, y'all don't like that one. You don't get— I'm a showman. And I've learned that about my— that's something recently I learned about myself. I'm, I'm a showman. Anytime, rather I'm performing from 500 people or 5 people, I want to— I feel like you bought a ticket, or not even if you bought a ticket, if you got a free ticket, you still took time out of your day to come to me so I can perform for you. I'm about to give you my all. I'm gonna give you— so even, even when I'm working on a new joke, you can't tell I'm working on it because I'm going to present it to been like, I've been doing this thing, like I've been doing this joke. So, but there's been some times where— and it's usually in like small crowds when it's like, like 5 to 12, 20 people. Okay, the joke that you've been working on, you don't get nothing.

Let's talk about that because a lot of people talk trash about big rooms, right? Oh, I did this, it was 150 people there. To me If you can perform in front of 5, it's a whole different art form, you know what I'm saying? Could you talk about that for a minute? Because again, there are people who maybe are watching this that are aspiring to do comedy, or they forgot what it's like to be on the smaller stage, or whatever the case may be. But can you talk about the confidence that it takes to be in a room of people you don't know and there's only less than 20 people?

Oh yeah, yeah, that's where you— that's where you sharpen your, your iron. That's where you really know, like, okay, am I funny? Here's the thing about big crowds. Big crowds, they already have the energy, you know what I'm saying? Big crowds going off the people that's right next to them laughing. Sometimes they'll laugh because the person next to them laugh. So you get a— you, you go with a joke and it's only about 10 people in the room, they spread it out because for some reason they don't want to sit together. So they scattered through the room. You just— you, you do a joke and you— if out of 10 people you get one person, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you got to think about that's 1 out of 10. So if that was 100, that's 10 people. That was it. You got to think about it like that's how I think about it. Okay, so I'm like that. If I get one laugh out of here, I know it's a joke. I like that. I know it's a hit.

I like that. I like that.

I love— and I used to be terrified of them. When I first started doing actual comedy clubs, I used to be terrified of small rooms, but it never like— but yeah, it's a, it's a terrified that like I'm pacing. Like you'll see me pacing back and forth because I'm like, oh crap. But I still loved it because those rooms strengthened me. Yeah, I was, I was already decent because for some reason I was naturally good at comedy, so I was decent by the time I started hitting comedy clubs. But when I started hitting these small rooms They straight, like bars. Oh man. Me and TJ Evans, we used to go to this bar in Arlington, dude. And the bar, they used to have us do shows. They used to call them shows. They were really open mics. But they used to, anytime I don't get paid, it's open mic in my book. So we used to go do these, these little mics that they would put together, but it would be a full bar during like a hockey game. And it's like a bunch of drunk people in there.

So hold on. You're one of the first people to book me in the Dallas area, and I think I know the bar you're talking about because you did a show and you jumped off stage. You was, you was doing, uh, Uptown Funk. Uptown Funk. And you jumped off the stage. Is that that bar, or is it—

that's not that bar.

I don't know. Okay.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Because when I saw you jump off, I said, this fool is a good night, is a different kind of ignorant, you know what I'm saying?

I want you to remember me. I want I want you, when you leave any show that I'm a part of, I want you to remember me. Even if you don't remember my name, when you see me, you like, I can't remember his name, but that's the dude that jumped on.

Yeah, that's the dude.

At this bar, that was it. Everybody that got on the mic and did, they said, they did like a whole 10-minute set, ain't nobody listening. Which, that's worse than a boo to me. That's worse than a boo. They're talking while everybody's watching the game. Like, we're right here talking to people, the game's right here though. So everybody just facing there. It's like 5 comedians go, I go last. I said, bet. And, and, and this is something my dad taught me, even with him preaching. Walking into a room, you have to be ready to adjust. Yeah, that's why I'm not a— I call them scripted comedians. I can't— like, even if I have a whole 10 minutes wrote, like, oh, this gonna kill, if I go in the room, most likely that's gonna change because I got to go off the room. That's how I've always been. So as soon as it was my turn, I grabbed the mic, I got on top of the bar in front of the TVs, got everybody's attention. I started going— my energy was already high because everybody was talking out of the middle, man. I'm like, what's going on, y'all? Good. Hey, I'm gonna give y'all about 10 minutes, y'all can get back to your hot game. And I killed it, dude. I killed— I had that whole room laughing.

First of all, okay, so one of the things I believe is why I love comedians We are— I'm not going to say it in a way where it's witchcraft, but we, we have a way of moving the crowd. We adjust the temperature in the room. No matter what your day is, no matter what you're going through, if you are a comedian, I'm gonna make you, at least for a little while, forget that. So by you jumping on the bar, by— there's a level And if I say this wrong, I apologize, but it is what it is. There's a level of arrogance that comes with doing comedy. Now people say it's cocky. No, it's not cocky. I have to be arrogant to say I'm gonna make you laugh. I'm gonna make you feel something you ain't felt all day. I know you ain't come here for that, but I'm gonna do it any damn way.

Yeah, because if you don't believe it, who will? Okay, if you don't— if you don't have that confidence in you Why would— why should the audience? Yes. You know, that's why again, I think some of the best crowds to do are bars that don't even know it's comedy. Yes. Because you can make them— what if you make somebody that didn't— I didn't come here to laugh, I came here to have a drink, watch this game. You make that person laugh, you got something.

Now, are you, are you nervous when you hit the mic? Every time. Okay, okay, okay. Help me out with this, because most people know I started off in the church.

Right.

So for me, for you doing comedy, it's natural for me to think about you doing comedy because you watched your dad for so many years. Even if he wasn't preaching, you watch his style. You watch how in the room for the elderly he preached different than in the room full of young folks. You might have watched why he went through 10 things before he got to the pulpit, but when he got to the pulpit, it was something that just kind of took over. And the way I write my jokes is the exact same way I used to write my sermons.

Yeah, right.

So there's a level of arrogance, there's a level of you ain't funnier than me. It's almost like competition. That's not a competition where I'm gonna put you down or make you feel like, you know, whatever. But there's a level of confidence and that goes along with it. And I've seen you, um, change rooms over the years. I've seen you walk into a room with a black glove on, and I'm like, why does this fool got on a black glove? But it makes you stand out. Yeah, because I'm like, first of all, it's hot, we're in Texas, man, he got a glove on, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, okay, what is he about to say? Yeah, what made you do that? What made you come up with these ideas to say, I'm gonna hit them tonight?

Oh man, so my, my wardrobe is a suit with the gloves. Uh, but it's pretty much an homage. A lot of things, a lot of things I wear is always an homage to my Mount Rushmore of comedians.

Okay, let's go, let's go.

So the suit is the Bernie Mac, like every time I saw him he was in the suit. Kings of Comedy, it was a suit. So the gloves is Eddie Murphy though, on Raw. He had the glove with the ring on. So that's why it's my homage to, uh, to those who came for me, man. That's why I'll be having a suit. That's why I have the gloves on. And it's always like, like you said, it's gonna— you're gonna, you're gonna remember me. Even when someone's hosting and I get off stage, the one— almost every time that person says something about my glove, I love it.

You got to, because what people don't understand, you should be different. Like, of course I wear Can't Get Right stuff all the time or whatever, but I'm always gonna have on some shoes that's different. Something's gonna be different where you can be like, why you got that? You know, because I want you to pay attention. Now the adjustment for me was in the church we was taught to not have on stuff that's gonna make people pay attention to me, right? And then, but now it's opposite. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Just for a second, I want to talk about this because one thing I, I noticed about you, man, you, you go anywhere. Like you, like you said, you've been in San Antonio this week or whatever. I've seen you go places and I've inboxed you like, bro, how did you get— he said, man, I just I went online and I saw what they had this and I did this. A lot of people as comedians wait for an opportunity to come. Yeah, you don't. You seem— you appear to me that you make your opportunities come by you staying busy and whatever. What, what made you say, you know what, I'm not gonna wait for a manager, I'm not gonna wait for an agent, I'm gonna get out there and I'm gonna get it myself?

I don't like 9-to-5 jobs. So that's why doing— having a mentality like that is doing a 9-to-5 job. You, uh, if you gotta wait for somebody to say to do this, do that, don't— I'm not like that at church. Like, when I go to church, I don't wait for the pastor, which is my dad, to tell me what to do. I get to— I get to doing stuff. It's the same with my comedy career. I have to— I haven't got— I'm— I am my— we're entrepreneurs when we we start this comedy, or rather we should be. And even when I get a manager and I get an agent and stuff like that, they work for me. I don't work for them, so, you know what I'm saying? So I have to find these opportunities, man. And it's still— I still— that's why I love meeting people and stuff like that, because it's still doors that I didn't even know existed. The more I keep talking to people, you know, I'm just— just got booked to go to New Mexico. Love it. But, you know, just talk about showing up to a show last night that I knew was only gonna be 10 people. Here's the thing, because some of these comedians have been doing it not even as long as me. They've been doing it for 5 years. They'd be like, I'm not about to go there, they not paying, you know what I'm saying? It's only gonna be 5, 10 people there.

You hear it?

That's the thing. I ain't got nothing to do Saturday night, you know what I'm saying? I'm about to do something that I love. Yeah, why not do it? And it's always because you never know who's in the crowd. I did that, somebody was in the crowd that had a hookup for New Mexico. And I was able to get it like that off my name. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like, why— I never understood that, where, uh, and I get, I get it, you want your bread, so I definitely understand that. But at the end of the day, it's a grind, you know what I'm saying? Some people are able to pop up quicker than others, but it's still— at the end of the day, it's a grind, dude. A lot of times you're gonna get them, do them shows for a chicken plate, you know. Anybody who ever told you differently was a fat Faison liar.

Okay, I'm sorry, I couldn't, I couldn't resist it because it is a grind. It is something that you must do. Now with me, I still work, but I'm, I stay tired, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, people don't see the grind, the hustle, like I was telling you before you came in, like all the stuff that people didn't show up for you and whatever. Um, How do you deal— because this is an issue I deal with a lot that stresses me out, because I'm my own manager, I'm my own agent, I, I do it myself.

Yeah.

Um, how do you deal with club owners that are shy and don't want to pay your money?

It's a problem. If I, if I— because I'm so— I've, I've luckily not encountered with a promoter or owner who like, I do my set, then they don't— then they like, we don't— I haven't ran into that yet. Okay. Pray to God I don't, because I know how I am. Praise God. Yeah, I'll hate to have to come back in there like Ice Cube with a bag. I would hate to have to do it, you know what I'm saying? But definitely got some promoters that they, they want your talent but they don't want to pay you. I got one hit me up not too long ago. I told him like, yeah man, I can do it, let me Let me see my contract and tell me what your budget is. Okay, boy. His next comment was like, yeah, if you, you know, you sell 10 tickets, you get $100. So I'm doing your job. You want me to promote? You're the promoter. Here's the thing.

Well, let's talk, let's talk about this.

Which camera? Which is this one?

Let me put you right there. Right here.

Promoters, here's the thing. Promoters, when you hit us up, and you're hitting us up because we're very good at our job, which means we get booked a lot, which means if we have our core audience, which is our friends and family, they're constantly coming to our shows. Which means we're not about to keep bringing them to shows. They're tired. Yeah, they keep hearing these jokes. That's why I keep writing so good. I have to write because I'm, I'm still in my city. Same people keep seeing my shows. I can't tell them the same jokes. Yes. Yeah, no promoters. Yes, do your job.

And it's not like we're not going to promote. Yeah, because I want people to come. I want people to know, hey man, this guy's still working. Sure, but I'm not gonna do everything for you. And I, I've had— okay, I've had situations where I've told comics, listen, I'm going to pay you, but I'm also going to give you 5 tickets each. You can give them away or you can sell them for yourself. That's an extra. If the tickets are $20 a piece, I am giving you this because I want the room to be filled, right? I have had a show, several shows, where comedians don't even come pick up the tickets. I'm like, hold on, the tickets are $20 a piece. I'm giving you 5 of them, plus I'm paying you already. That's an extra $100. Oh man, you know, I've been busy. Are you serious?

That's why.

But what that tells me is I can't work with you anymore because I want people that are serious, right? You know, when people ask me, well, how do you know who you're gonna interview with, you know, Turning Corners and stuff, I said serious comedians. It's not about if you have the biggest following because some people aren't real good on social media, you know. Like, I've hit you up and like, hey man, I need some help because some stuff I don't know how to do.

But still learning.

My thing is, are you serious? Yeah, you know, are you about the craft or are you just going to clubs to drink? Because there are some people who just go to the club just to drink, you know. So I got a question for you, just be honest, okay? Tommy was on stage and although you knew the joke hit, that room was not feeling it. Oh yeah, that joke hit 100 times before. You hit it, you said it the same way, same demeanor, whatever. How did you respond to that joke that didn't quite do what you thought it was gonna do?

I'm talking about the night afterwards. Like, you had a kill on a Friday and don't do nothing on Saturday. What's happening? I move to the next joke quickly.

Quickly.

Yeah, there's no need. Y'all don't like it, cool, let's go to the next one. I got plenty, I got a whole arsenal. Like, okay.

Okay, how do you memorize your jokes?

Memorize my jokes is pretty easy because they're life. Like, there's stuff—

most—

90, maybe 85, 85 or 90% of my jokes, I've experienced it, so it's in my brain. Like, I got a— I got a joke about a crackhead smoking crack in the back of my car while I was Uber driving. This really happened.

Well, that really happened.

I can't forget this. Crazy. So a lot of— a lot of his stories, I'm, I'm very much storytelling. You know what I'm saying? Uh, I'll ever so often have some little punchers, but most of the time I'm storytelling, I'm doing crowd work.

So almost— I don't know how— I know you know who he is, Ali Siddiq, right? Ali Siddiq is one of my heroes in the game because first of all, he's the first professional comedian told me I was funny, and he did a show years ago before he got super big. Okay. And he told me, he said, can I tell you something? I said, yeah, you can tell me whatever. He's like, your set was good, but you went too far. Okay. I was talking about a deacon at the church who had messed up leg and all that stuff. He said it was funny at the beginning, then people felt— so I feel sorry for him. He said you went too far, you know. He said you gotta keep working on that joke. And I was like, wow. So the storytelling that he does is something that I like, and I've actually seen you do that, like you hit him with a punchline, but then you say, hey, and another thing, this happened the other day. What made you go in that direction? Or better yet, I'm gonna ask, like, how is it that you learn to just be you? Because I've seen a lot of comedians come in and they try to be everybody except who they are, man.

My dad actually— I remember when I first started doing comedy, like that first year or two, you know, I was really— I think because I was watching a lot of Kevin Hart Because around the time I started, he just put out that first special, and I was like watching it so much. So I kind of— a lot of my mannerisms was kind of acting. My dad was like, hey, you need to, you need to start getting to know you, and you need to show more you because you kind of starting to sound and act like Kevin Hart. I'm like, oh. So that started making me do, uh, rewinds. Every show I would do, I would record it and watch it back. I wouldn't even put it— definitely at that time, I wasn't even putting nothing on social media. I would literally record myself just so I can, as, as I'm driving home, making sure I don't sound like nobody else, making sure, you know, saying I got my own voice. So, and that's where the storytelling came through. Okay.

So do you, do you find yourself— I'm gonna say myself, I don't. If I got a show coming up, especially it's a big show, I don't watch other comedians for like a week and a half, maybe two 2 weeks because I find myself emulating them. Like, like one of my guys that I'm really a big fan of is Earthquake, and I catch myself, my mannerisms is Earthquake, and I'm like, hey, why do I do that? But then I've heard other comedians say, well, that's because you're a fan, you know, you're not doing his jokes, but sometimes you do his mannerisms and stuff. But I was like, well, Kobe became Kobe watching Jordan, so I don't really see anything wrong with it, but I can't watch other comedians. Like, even if I'm, if I'm going to perform, I try not to watch what they're about to do.

Okay.

And I don't know why I've been like that. I don't know if it's something in my head where— but it was like that when I was, you know, in the pulpit. I, I didn't like— if we had like, they would have the preachathons or the Seven Last Seven Words of Christ, all that stuff, I would go to the bathroom or something. It's my turn. Because I didn't want to have that pressure on me of doing what somebody else did.

Yeah.

How— I know it sounds like repetitive, but no, you being unique is something that a lot of people can't do.

And I've heard a lot of— I, uh, you like the third person I've heard that don't too much like to watch other comedians and stuff like that. I guess because again, I've always just— I'm a student of the game. I study. And a lot of times I'll listen to— I'll listen to some comedy on my way to a show, and that's kind of just like I would say that's kind of like how you got to go to the club, you kind of just bumping some 50 Cent or something. Like, that's kind of— that's kind of the same mind frame. I'm listening to some comedy and I'm just kind of going off that energy, I guess you could say, that, that energy, that rush of just getting those laughs. That's really what I'll be listening for. And I'm like, yeah, okay, get myself in the zone. And I really just get— definitely, like, definitely if I gotta do a show and I'm just in a funk, I'm just like, I'm not there. I gotta, I gotta hear comedy. Music ain't really gonna get me there. I gotta listen to comedy. Comedy is gonna, it's gonna get my— it's gonna lift me up, as it should. I mean, it's the medicine for the souls.

So, so is— I've heard a lot of comedians, including myself, comedy is therapy. That stage is like— every time I just need to get on stage, like, I don't— don't pay me, I don't care if you pay me or not. I need to get these 15 minutes What?

During the pandemic, I was— I feel like a crackhead, dude. I was enough. And that's— the pandemic is what got me started doing stuff online because I had to get it out. I was stuck in— I was going crazy in the house. And that's when I, man, I put my camera up and just start doing stuff. I'm like, I have to get— I was wanting a stage so bad, dude. It was bad, dude. I'm telling you, even today, last night I had to go do something for a pastor. So last night I didn't finish that till 3:30. Got home, I ain't go to sleep till 4:30 this morning. Woke up at 7:30 this morning, go to church. After that, we all went out to eat. I'm here with you now.

Wow.

Everything in my body is saying you should go to sleep for the rest of the day. I want to hit a stage right now.

It's in me.

Yeah, when it's in you, it's in you. Rather it's comedy, rather it's doing music, rather it's an actor, rather it's Rather, it's cooking, you know what I'm saying? If whatever, whatever God put in you, you're gonna want, you're gonna need to do it.

Okay, so I was trying to wait till later, but I'm gonna ask you this question. Okay. Because when I first started doing comedy, it was, it was an issue because of course I was behind the pulpit and all that stuff, right? And it was a whole lot of people that's upset, and then they started booking me. And so it was like one of those things where I was stressing because part of me was like this is who God made me to be. But then the other side of it is, well, I can't do that because church folks won't get mad. Now it seems to me that you, you have a pastor, a father who allows you to be you, right? But have you ever gotten pushback from church folks? And not being in particular because we don't want to, you know, name anybody, but how did you handle it? And then how would you advise somebody else who might be a PK, or they might be, um, somebody that want to do it but they're Christian.

Yeah.

And they'd be like, well, I don't want to do it because the Lord might be upset at me, you know. How would you advise them?

I, uh, well, one, the people who probably do have an issue with— I don't too much hear it. If I do ever hear it, like, it comes from the grapevine. So I don't never hear it. The people at my church and just the people that I grew up around in the church, they kind of they accept it. They kind of like love that I do comedy and stuff, especially my dad. Uh, I would say anybody that had to go through that or even think about it, you got to remember anytime you step outside you're gonna upset somebody. So you should just— once you wake up, you should just erase that out your mind. You being alive is upsetting somebody. Yeah, the most perfect person in the world couldn't please everybody. That was Jesus. Ain't nobody going— you ain't going— so you need to get that out your mind. So it's gonna be— if God put that in you to do it, you got to do it, you know. So I, uh, I've— my passion for, for this is, uh, it drives me. So a lot of times I don't too much try to look to try to please people, you know what I'm saying, in that kind of way. And plus I know how to seperate stuff. I'm, I'm, I go to church every Sunday, you know what I'm saying? But I do know how when I'm on stage, I'm gonna say some stuff. I'm trying to get a laugh and I'm trying to be relatable to people. My average, average person in that crowd don't go to church. A lot of them ain't even been to church. Why would I try to stick to church stuff if I'm trying to be relatable? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So you got to be able to say— because that's the same thing if you If you're trying to be too deep and like somebody want to book you for a movie and you're like, well, I can't, I can't, I can't do— I can't kiss her because I, I'm, you know, I'm in the church. You getting paid to not be you. You getting paid.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so that means you should be really good at it.

Yeah, you know, so I mean, hey, everybody different.

So, so have you worked with the comic, and you don't have to say their name, and you felt one way about the comic before the show And I'm talking about not— I'm talking about someone that's big because I know you opened up and you've been on big shows, big stages for other people.

Yeah.

Have there been a comedian— you don't have to say their name, you can if you want to— but, and you was like, you got to be kidding me, like, really, bro? Like, you know, um, yeah, there's one comedian I met and that was like a big fan of, and that nigga was drunk the whole time. Like the whole time. I was so excited for opening up for him. I did my thing and I went to the room. He was drunk. I think he had a little powder on his nose.

I was like, come on, man.

I ain't gonna say his name because I'm, you know, that's not, that's not about— but, you know, have there's been a moment like that for you?

It kind of was reversed, and I'll say his name. It was, uh, Alisa Dee. When I, uh, I did a show with him, and, uh, it was a big show though. And when I first, when I first was like got to meet him, so like I thought he was a-hole. So I kind of like, oh, listen. But then once he got on stage, did his thing, he got— I kind of, I kind of saw, okay, he was in his own. That's what it was. He was in his own and he was cool. He was cool as a fan once he got off and everything. He kind of— oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I had to look at it from a different perspective. I was a big fan before I met him too. Uh, and that was the— who else that happened with? Uh, his name? Kev On Stage.

Okay, I did, uh, Christian comedy.

Yeah, I had, I had opened up for Tony Baker. So Tony Baker and me were at Arlington Improv. Kev On Stage was at a church in Dallas same time, but he was done, uh, first. He came to the show, uh, and, uh, I forgot to meet him in the back, but he kind of was like Hey, and then kind of doing his thing. But I wouldn't offend it because I'm, I'm a fan where I watch his podcast all the time. I watch him and Tony Baker's podcast, so I know that he don't like the— he got to do meet and greets all the time and he don't like that.

He did say that.

Yeah, so me knowing that, it didn't offend me at all. I'm like, oh, okay, you didn't— you just had to do that show, you hear everybody all in your face. I get it. That's just one shaking hand because you never know, this might be the last time I ever see you, God forbid. And yeah.

It just might not be the same city again, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm sure I'm gonna see him again because I know I'm gonna be—

but, but it's funny you say that because we forget comedians are human.

Yeah.

And I saw an interview with him, he was talking about— me and a man, he had a good interview where he was talking about, you know, the ups and downs of comedy and, you know, still working and traveling across town and all those stuff. And I think people forget that it is a lot of energy that we put out when we're doing shows. There's a lot of energy, a lot of anxiety. It's a lot of stuff that's going on in our head. Then when we come off stage, I don't know about you, but I'm like, I didn't hit quite like I wanted to. That part was good. Dang, I forgot to say this. Like, all these different things going in your head. Then somebody say, hey, can I take a picture? What?

Yeah, yeah, I know that's irritating. You know what's funny? This happened about 2 or 3 weeks ago. Damon Williams was downtown Fort Worth. Doing the show at the Big Laps. He was downstairs, I was doing the show upstairs. I still wanted to watch his set. I think it was like 4 more comedians that I had to go up. I went downstairs, he was in the back at the table, you know, like a lot of comedians would walk past him. Yeah, uh, Williams in there. I went right in there, sit right next to him. Hey, what's up, man? Bam. I was watching the people open up for him, like, because he's human, bro.

Yeah, yeah. And, and I think we forget that there's different personalities for everybody. Like, there, there are some people that's real cool. There's some people— the thing that has blessed me over the years is, you know, I've, you know, the time joining cruise and stuff like that, and I met some really big name comedians. And it's, it's what I learned: the bigger they are, the cooler they were.

Makes sense.

The ones that had like movies and shows and Netflix specials was so cool. And then the ones that just opened up, I'm like, really, bro?

You don't—

are you serious? Like, I saw your set, you wasn't funny. You ain't what you thought you were.

Usually the ones that— like, you ain't that funny.

There's a— there's a comedian here, and, and it hurt my heart because I was a fan. I used to watch him and everything. Thing. And we was at the, uh, Dallas Improv one day, and he said something after I got off stage. Just open mic. Yeah, but he said something, I looked at him and I was like, bro, I'm about to slap you. And he looked at me like— and he walked off.

And now I was—

and it's crazy, I deleted him. I like, like, because I was a fan. Like, I'm just a fan of comedians.

Yeah.

And I was like, you know, I supported you and this is your second time getting flat. And I just told myself, bro, you know I'm about to slap you, right? He just looked at me and then he walked off. And my boy I was with, you know, uh, he started laughing, man. He was like, boy, you're a fool. I said, no. I said, because I'm from San Antonio, and sometimes being from a different city, people think you soft or whatever. But I'm like, bruh, this ain't the stage. This is grown man stuff. So, oh, I got, I got a question for you real fast. I'm curious to comedic beefs. Where comedians are beefing. Like, I don't get it, but I do get it because it's a competitive sport. Have you had beef, or— I don't even want to ask that question. How do you deal with beef or comedians hating on you? That's probably a better way of doing it.

I don't know, like, who's hating on me? Okay, to be honest, it might be.

I don't know.

If they didn't— if they do, I mean, hey, yeah, that's your fault. I don't know why. And the comedy— and you hear people say this, but it's so true— it's enough money out here. Yes, sir. Honestly, for all of us. Because comedians are so different, different styles, you know. And it is, it is competitive because like, I, I got a tour that I made called the Dangerous Comedy Tour. It's 7 of Every show we do, it's competitive. Like, whoever's got on stage, like, okay, I'm next. I gotta do that, I gotta do that. It's a competitor. I've never— what irritates me, and it's kind of outside the beat, but it's like comedians that purposely get openers that's not as funny as you. Preach. That is weird. Preach, sir. Preach. Because my thing is, I need you to get this crowd where I want it to be.

Yes.

I need that. I don't need you bombing. I don't need you doing okay. I need you to try to do better than me because I know I'm about to kill it. Go ahead and give it my all. I hate that.

Let's see, they robbing the audience when they do that.

What, man?

Because— and then, yeah, but do I want to wait an hour before you even get on stage? Now when you get on stage, you're gonna have to work harder.

That part—

because you gotta get the room back.

I never understood it. I never understood it. And I, I don't understand people doing that because like these people didn't pay hard good money, you know what I'm saying, to come here. And you get— you like purposely don't get nobody that's gonna kill it, just though you can go out there. And I guess honestly, because it's— I'm— again, I told you earlier, I'm a showman. So at the end of the day, I want you to enjoy the whole show. As soon as you could, from the first person who want to come in, the, the, when the music hit, I want you to enjoy everything. Yeah, because I want you to enjoy the whole show, not just when I come out. I want you to enjoy this whole show. I think a lot of people don't.

Do you feel like there's pressure being a headliner?

Yeah, it should be. Yeah, I think it's some pressure there.

Uh, what stage did you get to the point where you like Yeah, I'm a headliner now because, you know, people don't understand there is a progression for sure, you know. I mean, yeah, you got a strong 15-minute set, but it's not necessarily a headliner. Can you do a 45-minute show, 45 minutes, an hour, and hold people's attention? That's a different level of comedy.

Promise you I'm not trying to sound cocky.

No, just do your thing.

So I think I had that mentality before I even stepped into the comedy game of like comedy clubs. I did a— I shot— I never put it out, but only because like it was back in the day, they shot on a DVD, couldn't find a DVD. Gotcha. But I did an hour and a half of comedy, murdered every part of it, killed it. But that was because the way I started doing comedy, again, I, I got booked my pastor's birthday parties. So they're booking you— a pastor's booking you like a pastor. So you up there 25 minutes. Yeah. So when I got into the comedy club and I started hitting these open mics, I'm like, all right, cool, how much time? Oh yeah, 3 minutes. The heck am I doing 3 minutes? But I'm used to doing— so that was— so, so that's what kind of was different between the average comedian and me. The average comedian, when they get in the game, they struggle with a 3-minute, then they struggle with a 5, then a 10, so they can build up to doing 30. I had to do the opposite.

I had—

I was struggling just doing 3 minutes just because I started— I was doing— I was a storyteller and I was used to doing 25 minimum, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I, I struggled doing 3, 5, probably even 10 minutes, you know what I'm saying? I had to learn how to certain jokes don't stretch it so long. How, how can I make a joke long to short, short to long? And that's what I could do now. There's certain jokes that I know that joke can go a good 10 minutes, but sometimes I got to push that bad boy down to 3. I gotta hit points, I gotta go fast, you know.

You know, you know, it's interesting you say that because again, I started off in the church and it wasn't no 5-minute, you know, messages.

What?

You know, you get up there, you just, ah, Father God, uh, please turn, um, you gotta start with the preacher voice here. Start, uh, yeah, David here said— but, but so open mic has always been a problem for me. Um, that's why part of it, I'm still a barber. Uh, shout out to Next Level Barbershop. Uh, uh, part of it, I'm still a barber because I work on my jokes at the shop.

Yeah.

And there's 8 of us in the shop, 9 of us in the shop, and they know when I'm like— I will come from behind the chair and do a whole 3-minute set while somebody's sitting in the chair.

Yeah.

And they'd be like, yeah, because I got a real audience with a real— with open mics, one of the reasons I don't like it is because one, it's good for networking, but no one's really listening, right? And everybody's worried about what they're going to say, or let's go here. People are there to steal your shit.

Oh, sorry.

People are there to steal your stuff. So how, how do you work on your stuff? Or do you work on it as you're performing? And then, you know, like, do you run stuff back? Do you say, okay, I haven't did this joke in a year, it's a brand new crowd that never heard it, let me hit them with this? Like, what's, what's your—

I definitely do that. I did, uh, like I told you earlier, I'm I mostly open mics, I do crowd work because that's something I want to get better at. So a lot of times I go, I just, I really just work on crowd work. When I do shows is when I pop out a new joke. There's a new joke I want to work on, I got a show coming up on Friday, say, bet, I'm gonna throw that in the middle, you know, just right, right randomly in the middle. Let me see, let me get a temperature on this thing. Yeah, I said here, I keep that in the back pocket, you know what I'm saying? So I'm I'm quick to do it on there. I haven't— I'm sure it's gone. You know the reason why I've never feared somebody stealing a joke? Two reasons. One, it's my life. Hard for you to steal my joke. You can, it's gonna sound weird because it's my life. Two, it's like stealing a bullet and I got a safe full of bullets. Like, I'm not gonna miss that bullet. I got an arsenal of jokes. You try to take a joke, I got too many. Like, I don't have a joke where like, oh, that's the best one. Don't nobody touch it, Mike. I got too many. You know what I'm saying? So I've never feared somebody taking a joke from me.

So do you have those hitters that are just closers? Because I've heard comedians say, I gotta hit them hard at the beginning and then build up, you know what I'm saying? Like almost like going up a hill. I'm building, building, building. Then once I get to the mountaintop, that's the climax. Yeah. That's when, you know, I can do all the stuff I want to do. Do you have like— I got 3, 3 to 4 hitters where I'm like, when I hit this right here, these, these jokes right here, they guarantee, they just, they hitters. But they like 7-minute sets, you know, 7 to 10-minute sets. Do you have jokes like that where at the end you're gonna always close with this, or do you just kind of see how the crowd is going and maybe not use that joke?

Yeah, I gotta, I got a couple of, uh I got a couple of jokes where I'm like, all right, come on, I can end on this. I know, I, I know for a fact this one hit with a big laugh and I can walk off stage, you know. So I got a couple of them like that, a couple, like I said, little jabs. But, uh, and then I got a lot of them that I know if I start with a certain joke, I gotta end with this one because I know they tie, you know what I'm saying. And I, I'm a big fan of that. I love that. That's preaching.

That's callback. That's callback.

My dad do it all the time.

Yeah, it's callback. It's callback. It's, it's You're connecting the jokes.

I love it.

Ali Siddiq, when he ended his joke and he said, all because I wanted a dope track outfit or something like that, probably just messed up the thing.

Dope ass tracksuit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, he brought it full mic and walk off.

That was, man, what?

Yes, yes.

I got a question. I know it's your interview.

No, no, no, we just, we just talking, bro.

Have you dropped the mic yet?

I'm— you talking about on stage? I'm gonna tell you why I haven't, and I wanted to. When I did, um, San Antonio, I did, um, I Shouldn't Say This. That was, that was the name of the— and that's, that's Shouldn't Say This. That's on YouTube right now, doing real good with real numbers, no robots. Um, I did a joke at the end, and I wanted to drop it so bad, but I respect the mics so much and how much they cost.

It's because you go to church, you know them, like, you know how expensive the mics are.

But, but have you, have you dropped the mic?

3 times.

Did you break both?

No, uh-uh. Both the first 2 times, both of them was at Arlington Improv. I headlined her and like, it just was the moment, like I had to drop the mic.

So, so I'm curious now, did the club owner, anybody say anything to you?

It was one of the situations where I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, if I do it, we're gonna see. Yeah.

So did you plan on it before you said, tonight I'm dropping the mic? Yeah. Or was it like an improv type situation?

One of them was, one of them wasn't. One of them was. One of them, like, I planned my whole ending. I know the crowd gonna roar, and I'm gonna say, man, good night. One of them like that. The other one, I just dropped it because it just— it ended so cool.

Well, I got it.

And then last night, last night I did a show. I think it was 12 people in there. I dropped the mic just, just because I knew it was going to be hilarious to drop a mic with just 12 people in there. I was doing crowd work and the crowd work was very funny, and then I got real quiet and I was like, that's all I got, and I dropped the mic and walked out. I was the last comedian. I didn't tell people, y'all have a good night, pay your bill. I ain't say nothing. I just dropped the mic, walked out.

So, so you don't believe in having that big joke at the end?

Like, certain— I think certain moments— I, in that particular moment, it made it more funnier that it wasn't a big moment. So then drop the mic, like, that was the joke. The joke was dropping the mic. It ain't a— it ain't a packed room, you know what I'm saying?

It was even funnier.

It made it even funnier. So that's why I did it. Like, that was the joke. Let me drop them.

Let's see, that's that showman stuff that you was talking about.

Yeah, yeah.

Um, are you married?

No.

Okay, okay. So because I'm stupid and, you know, I always have crazy stuff in my head, um, you go to a girl house. Yeah, first date, you're there, you're waiting on her to get dressed, uh, because they're never ready, and you're sitting on the couch. And as she's coming back into the room, you notice a big-ass roach on the wall.

That's crazy.

That looks like he's about to take off.

This is why—

what's your next move?

Tell you something happened. Okay, come on, tell you something. All right, sorry.

Oh, you said the name.

Let me tell you what happened. I went over her house, first date.

She was good.

She was thick, man. What?

Caked up.

Well, we talking, she had one of them kind of like this, like this was the sink. So like I was standing on one side, she was down another. It's just dirty dishes in between. She ain't washing dishes at all.

Yeah, did she know you was coming?

She lived so far, you had time to clean. You had time. Yeah, it was an hour drive. So everything big in Texas, it was an hour drive. Just talking and stuff every time. And I just, I just see— I can't— I casually see this roach crawl over the, over the dirty dishes. And when we stopped talking, the roach looked at her, she looked at the roach, then the roach walked off and she continued to come. So he live here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all roommates is what you say? Yeah, I left, I left. I wanted it so bad, but I was like, I can't, I can't. I'm— let me not lie to you. I was gonna still hit. Well, maybe not hit. I went in the restroom. I saw what the restroom looked like.

Oh no, I can't do that.

This is diabolical. Yeah, I can't do that. Why you living like this?

Did you pull the curtain back?

You got 3 kids.

Oh, she got kids too?

Yeah, I saw that roach. I need to see— I gotta see your tub. Oh man, come on, that was crazy.

Look like she growing plants.

What? How you feeding there? Now you gotta step in the shower. This is nasty.

So basically you had to wipe your feet when you got out of the house, man.

I kept my shoes on. You want the—

no, I'm saying you want the earth to be dirty. You stepped out of the house.

I didn't deserve that. Yeah, I'm just saying, I should have threw a bomb in there. Nobody should have came out the house.

Okay, okay. So as a comedian, yeah, you know, we, we are, we are stupid. We see things that other people don't see. I have, I have times where I laugh at stuff I ain't supposed to laugh at. Like, I, I'm— I laugh at funerals. I just like— it's some funny shit. Like, tell anybody, I literally for the first time went to a funeral and I saw somebody with a cold sore. Like, like, how you gonna have herpes simplex 10, you're gonna see Jesus? You know, he died for your sins. Yeah, he was in the casket. Like, he was in the— like this, he was like this, but he had a cold sore.

And I'm like, see, Jesus played too much because Jesus did that. See, because you know they go away and come back. You know what, wait for it to pop up.

But how are you going to talk to Jesus in heaven with a cold sore?

It's gone when you go to heaven. No, no, no, you got the perfect body when we go to heaven.

Well, is it? Is it? Okay, can we talk about it? I mean, because when we get to heaven You mean tell me I'm a six-pack?

Oh, if that's your perfect body, man, you in there, man. Perfect body.

I'm gonna have hair.

You gonna look 30. I'm gonna have—

so you say I look 30?

No, you gonna look 30. They say I look 30. They say 30 is the perfect age.

Okay, but what if you was 18 when you died?

You gonna look 30.

Damn, that would be—

if you was a baby, I'm all gonna look like 30. You ain't gonna notice some of you, some of the kids that died too young. You like, wow, that's you, Frank. You look grown.

That's Funny. I mean, it's not funny, but 30 now.

Look, man, don't—

but what if 30 was a bad year for you? Bad year? Like he lost a leg at 30?

You get that leg back when you get that leg, because you got to walk the gates. You got to walk. You can't go— ain't no crutches in this line.

You know what, you know what, hold on, hold on. See, we here. I always wonder why heaven got gates. Like, who going to break into God's house, man? I always wanted that. I just— I didn't want to say that right there, but you, you brought it up. Why, why, why haven't got gates?

He mean he closing gates when you got to watch the rewind.

Say, you know what, you know what, bitch gonna watch this.

I need you to watch it.

You know what you did, what you did, what you did. I won't let you in, you know. And then, and then I asked the question that was a real question to me. They said Peter's at the gate. Peter, they always said Peter's at the gate. That's the story is always. And I'm like, people die all the time.

All—

he don't get no break. So Peter working?

Nah, because Peter play too much.

So basically he's top flight security. Shoot, yeah.

Okay, okay. If I ain't gonna lie, if you don't get anybody to watch the gate, you don't get Peter.

Well, because he stabbed. Exactly.

Okay, okay. Let somebody get out of line, they see Peter like, hey, you need to calm down. And he cuss. Peter right there.

Oh yeah, and he cuss.

He on the outside of the gate.

You know what, and I always wondered, I always went out trying not to say this earlier, but I always wondered, Peter cuss What cuss words did he use? Like, did he say motherfucker? Or did he say nigger? Like, did he say nigger in whatever language they were speaking? They had a word that was nigger, you know. So I always wondered, did Peter cuss? But, but when he cussed, did he cuss cuss?

They cuss, huh? It was they kind of cuss. I want to go back in time and I want to hear them because, you know, I always wanted to hear a drunk man back in right before Jesus died cussing. What it sound like?

You know what, you know what, because I always wanted this right here, and I ain't shit for saying this, but we here. Uh, when Jesus took Lazarus out the grave, you know what I'm saying, in the Bible, you know, they said by now he stinketh. When he came out, did somebody say goddamn? Like, like, did they— or were they happy? Because you don't never— you know, they said loose that man, let him go. Yeah, but you don't hear nobody run up to him hugging him, you know. Martha was talking shit, oh, if he was here, he wouldn't have died. But then he came from the grave, She didn't run up to him, man, because he was gone 4 days. He's tight. Yeah, yeah, he ain't a barbless fluid.

Like them cheeks and went in a little bit, you know, your cheeks kind of going a little. Come on, dog, they passed a couple days. If he got up looking like he was 4 days dead, yeah, come on, man, come on.

Because even Jesus said, nah, I'm gonna stick on it.

Yeah, I would have whispered to Jesus, I said, Jesus, you know, you could just let me. Now we believe in you. Yeah, you have to prove that.

Yeah, but could you put some deodorant on?

Put a little something on.

A little something on. Because they said he came out and they said, loose that man, let him go. Would— man, his clothes, grave clothes was still on. So the grave clothes stank too, man. And then I always ask, like, was it velvet?

Huh? Bugs and stuff was eating on him too.

4 days? 4 days? Yeah, it was stinking, stinking a little bit.

He laid up.

Yeah, yeah. That's, that's— matter of fact, you know, I always wondered, because they never talk about whether or not Lazarus was married. Can you imagine him trying to explain to his wife that he was gone and it was like, where were you at? No, I was dead. Like For 4 days I was dead. I was dead. You didn't come to the funeral? Nobody told you?

You know, back then, if you was gone too long, they assume that the wolves got you. They gonna go and move on. He probably went back there, she was already with husband number 2. Damn, she like Lazarus. She like, Patricia, why would you—

You know what, y'all ain't shit. Say, man, just See, see, because you be saying— because I'll be, I'll be, I'll be having questions and I'm like, this might be inappropriate. But when Cain killed Abel, did he cuss? Because how you gonna kill somebody and not cuss, man? Because I mean, think about it.

No, no. Did you watch that movie with Samuel Jackson where he, he was a cop but he was like a neighbor?

Yes, when he was the black girl and then the white boy.

Y'all go back and watch this movie. When he got shot and he died, all he said was, oh, it's all he said. I was like, out of anybody to get shot, you would think Samuel L. Jackson. Yeah, he sure did do that.

Yeah, his check didn't come through because he's the only— he's the most cussless person on TV.

Sometimes when that bullet hit the right place.

Okay, so, so, so I'm trying not to say it, but I gotta say it. And I'm just—

this—

and we about to close out, but I'm stupid, so this is in my mind. When Samson got his haircut, which is amazing how she cut his hair and he was still asleep. Like, that's some good head. I'm gonna put that out there. That was some good coochie for you to stay asleep. Did he cuss her out?

He cussed, and that was the first time anybody ever said bitch. Because I know, I know when Samson got up and saw his hair down there, he was like Bitch, I know damn well. Did you just cut me? Me and God had an agreement. Yes, I got to have this damn—

and you know what, I don't even think he said bitch. I think he called her funky bitch. Oh yeah, that's a funky bitch moment.

That is a funky moment.

That's—

could you—

that's a funky bitch moment.

How could you?

How could you? Funky bitch. Yeah, for some gold or whatever she got out of it. But you know, she was a hoe, so Stay down with dog.

Yeah, that was this weekend. It was a lot of— it's a lot of Samsons out here, man. Yeah, a lot of— I've done some dumb stuff.

Okay, let's talk, let's talk.

I've done some dumb stuff, some stuff I ain't proud of. You ain't got to say it, but if you want to, um, you know, I'm talking about sold all my stuff and moved in, try to change my life. Yes sir, yes sir. Uh, listen, I almost walked away from comedy for a chick, bro.

Oh, she was fine, man.

She was fine. Hey, you, you a dirty bitch, but you beautiful girl. I miss you just a little bit. Boy, she— hey man, I'm talking about just to please her, bro. I was so— and it's so crazy too because like I stopped going to church so much because like we— like where she lived, it was way past McKinney. Like, oh, I was out of town at this point. I wasn't even close. So like I It was hard for me to even go to church every day, but she didn't like me going to church. It's some, it's some stuff there. Okay, so like I end up to please her, stop going to church. Like, and I'm talking about I've been going to church since I was a baby because my dad's always been a pastor. So I went like a year not going to church. Oh wow, bro, when I tell you, to this day I still sometimes sit back and just ask God to forget. Like, it, it hurts my soul. That I let somebody— but I'm glad it happened because I learned. I learned, and I was able to see like what I'm not gonna deal with when it comes to somebody. And sometimes I feel like that's why God lets us bump our heads with certain situations. Like sometimes we sit back like, why did I do that? You had to. You had to do this so you know, I never do that again. Yeah, you can experience it. And when somebody— when a youngster come around and they about to do the same thing, you can— now they gonna still do it because they young and dumb. But you can still say, hey, I've been there. Yeah, I've been there. I got the shirt to prove it. Somebody signed it. Don't do it. Don't do it. It's gonna hurt. You gonna do it anyway.

All right, you know what, and it's crazy because I'm, I'm sitting up here as you're talking, I'm asking myself, I remember I paid a woman's rent up for 6 months. She was on housing though. It was $6 a month. So I just went and paid $48 to the leasing office. What's crazy, they gave me 50s. Y'all take that shit. Y'all take this shit. I'm a player like— but then the helper gonna put me out the next day. She gonna put me out the house. But I'm gonna tell you what I did when she went to work. I said, all right, I'm gonna get out. When you get home, I'll be gone. I went— $50.

Uh-huh.

So I took $100 worth of groceries because she was on stamps. I took $100 worth of groceries and I took the kids snacks that he likes. I ain't like the little voucher. And I took the snacks Here's the thing that was jacked up about it. I didn't have a car, so I had to catch a bus with all them groceries and ice cream. Don't ask me why I got the ice cream, but it was homemade vanilla by Blue Bell. I wanted ice cream, and I caught that bus all the way to my sister's house and begged her, can I sleep? Can I come in? No, you with her. And I'm like, well, I got groceries, I got groceries, and they let you, you know what I'm saying? But funky bitch, that's what I ain't gonna say. You know who you are, you know who you are. Where that camera at? You know who you are, you know who you And it's funny because I've seen the other day she missing the two front teeth. Like, you can see a uvula when she talk. You see the back of throat. That shit ain't cool no more.

Yeah, she deserve it. Yeah, she's very—

okay, bitch. Anyway, all right, listen, we're gonna close out. Um, let people know how they can get in contact with you, things you got coming up or whatever. Um, it's your time.

Do you think— yeah, man, uh, RJ Prince, the Prince of Entertainment, man. You can find me RJ Prince underscore ENT. That's on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. Find me on Facebook at The RJ Prince. Uh, that's my fan page, The RJ Prince. Trying to get my followers up. That's how we get booked. People don't really look at the talent, look at your followers. Go and follow your boy. Boy, follow me everywhere.

I'm trying to let you go.

I'm gonna do today.

Listen, help me understand that they don't look at the talent no more, they look at the numbers. How do you—

numbers mean money.

Okay, okay, okay.

You can get somebody that is not funny at all, but it's guaranteed— but they— if it's guaranteed, oh, we booked them, we're gonna get a sold-out place because we, we don't really care if you funny. They gonna buy— they gotta buy 2 items or less, at least, or more. I mean, they gotta buy 2 items more. So you know what I'm saying? You talking about 300 people in here buying 2 items. Oh, we good, we got money. We'll pay you a little thing, be good. It's a business thing, you know what?

And it's sad because— and you're right, it is a business thing. But, but I'm learning that people, no matter what, it's all about the money. It's not about the fans, not about the people. It's not about, you know, if I put out a good show. It's just 100% about, you know, putting people in the seats, even if the people ain't funny.

My proudest moments is when I open up for anybody. And I know it's people in that audience that don't know me. After the show, if you, if you came to see us, uh, Alisa Dig or Tony Baker, uh, Joe Torre, you came, you paid money to come see them. I just did 5 minutes before. If you take the time to say, bro, you did, you killed, bro, you made me laugh, that means so much to me because I, I literally, I was there, I was, I was pretty good to to make you laugh if you came to see somebody else. Real good stuff. That'd be my proudest moment. Actually, after I do— after I open up for somebody, I stay at the exit door. So I let them get their meet and greet with the headliner and stuff, buy the merch stuff. When they come to me, that's when I get them. If— because if you did all that, you ain't— you ain't even heard— if I open up, you ain't heard from me for a good 2 hours. So if you go do all that and you come to me, you like boy, that joke you did with such and such, if I got that, yo, okay, I did good.

And not only that, that builds self-esteem, you know what I'm saying? Makes you feel good. Because if you stay—

if you bomb, you ain't gonna stand by the door, I'm going to the car, man.

All right, then, you know, what old boy say on that song? Hopped on my swing and tell the homies, all right then, you know what I'm saying? RJ, I appreciate you, I appreciate you. Thank you again, brother, for coming through, you know what I'm saying? You always have been a great person, a great man, great father, you know what I'm saying? And I just thank you for taking time out. Thank you, man.

Yes, sir.

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