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All my dreams out of mind, out of sight. They standing on my left 'cause they can't get right. You know what make 'em wonder every time I turn the corner? Wiz Up Comedy, Fort Worth, Texas.

I like that, I like that. What's up, brother? How you doing, man? What's the damn deal? Shit, boy, appreciate you, appreciate you. Welcome to the show, man. Welcome to Turning Corners, you know what I'm saying? Listen, you are— motherfucker, I've been watching for a minute, you know what I'm saying? Excuse my language, how I talk, you know what I'm saying? Please don't get offended, I'm stupid, you know what I'm saying?

Nah, you good.

All right, I love comedians, man. I love comedians because I feel like— and I might be arrogant when I say this— but I feel like we are some of the most underrated hardest working fuckers that don't get paid on the planet. No, for real, you know what I'm saying? And when I see people that's doing their thing and I'm like, oh, he gonna— he about to catch fire, you know what I'm saying? And you, you in Dallas-Fort Worth, you about to catch fire. I'm like, you know what, I gotta have this brother on the show, man, you know.

I appreciate it.

So I definitely appreciate you, man. My name is Ray Can't Get Right, been doing comedy about 15 years, uh, love this shit. I'm an author, do a whole lot of shit. I'm, I'm an all-around pimp of the game, you know what I'm saying?

Trailblazer in the song.

Come on, boy, you know what I'm saying?

But listen, man, 2002 porno music.

Come on, he said I got some porno music.

I love that shit. I made it, shit, nigga. I'm getting interviewed by Wack 100. When you put the glass, I was like, ah, this— is that what you want? No, I'm just saying, I had to get that green tickle. I'm like, fuck, I'm still getting it. I'm still—

I love it, I love it. Now you know what, here's the thing about being a comedian, right? The thing about us, man, we don't care sometimes. We gonna say what the fuck's on our mind. We gonna roast the nigga. Like, I don't really like hecklers at a show, but sometimes I'm like, oh really? That what y'all want? Y'all don't know, I've been doing this shit forever.

But I don't know, I think when people like, when people get it wrong or when they have hard feelings about it and they take it personal, You got to think about it, as comedians, we talking about ourselves probably 24/7, all the time, bro. Like, literally, like, so you got to think about it. I ain't said nothing I wouldn't say to you that I wouldn't say to myself.

So yeah, well, you wouldn't call yourself whack 100, you know what I'm saying?

Because I don't look like the nigga. You know, I mean, I got called Draymond, first of all, first of all, goddamn Anthony Hamilton. I didn't got called.

I can see, I can see Anthony Hamilton.

See, fuck you.

No, man, that's my nigga, man.

He's cool, he's short too, but you, you taller than him though. I ain't calling on no Charlene.

Now I, I saw you get out your car seat in order, you know, when you drove over here. I was like, oh, that nigga got a car seat.

That's crazy.

I'm just fucking with you, man. Say, man, so, so let me ask you this. How long you been doing comedy, man?

I've been doing it for 4 years.

That's it?

4 years. I'm coming up on 5 years.

No, for real?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I started, uh, 20— I started after COVID. Like, I started 2020, I think. I started 2020. Or whatever. No, '21. I started '21. I did my first like showcase in '21, but I did like have done open mics and shit like that. I did open mic in like 2018 at the Improv, and I did like a talent show. I did a set at a talent show, but I don't count that as my start because I was just up there, you know, bullshit. But I say '21. Yeah, '21 is when I started.

Yo man, you know what, that's crazy because so far that means you are the youngest as far as doing comedy person that's been on the show so far.

Oh damn, that's a lot.

But like I said, you doing your shit, you know what I'm saying? Like people say, well, how are you gonna figure out what comedian? I said they gotta be funny. Yeah, they gotta be funny, they gotta be grinding. And since I've been— since I've been in Dallas, you know, a lot of cats been inboxing me like, yo man, I heard you got the show, such and such called me, when you gonna invite me? And I, I don't want to hurt their feelings, but I don't think you funny and I don't think you serious about it, I'm not gonna fuck with you.

Nah, I feel like you should tell them. You should hurt their feelings.

You know what, some people— no, no, you sound like Derrick Jaxx last night.

No, not even— it's not even that. It's like sometimes you got to be for real about it. Like, you know, just— you gotta tell people, you just not my— it's not my— your comedy is not my cup of tea and what I want on the platform. That makes sense. No, no, no, you can't get mad at that. You just either got to work harder or— that's just somebody that don't— you know what I'm saying? You gotta make it— you gotta make it to where they want to come fuck with you. I, I have a saying, like either they gonna, they gonna fuck with you either now or later. Like, you know what I'm saying? Once you start, you're gonna have them people that's gonna off the top, off rip, that's gonna fuck with you and that's gonna support whatever you do. But then you got those people that's kind of like at arm's reach with it or just looking from afar and like, but then seeing everybody else jump on the wave and it's like, oh, nice, you know what I'm saying? I'm fucking with it. So I mean, it's— I don't know, man.

No, what you're saying is real because— and it's not that They're not funny, right? I just don't— I don't like their funny because there are some comedians that I see that they got good followings, but you don't—

you don't see the humor.

A lot of stuff that is— it's— it's low-hanging fruit, you know what I'm saying? And it sounds like something I've seen 10 times before. And it's not me judging. I'm not gonna call them out and say, man, you suck. But I don't want you on this platform at this stage because I'm like, nah, I don't see you going anywhere. You might You know what I'm saying? But when I see people like that, because there's some cats in Austin that, you know, are funny as hell, but they weird. You know, Austin's a weird kind of place, but they weird as fuck. But I'm like, you know what, since we started with Texas, let me, let me get some young guns on here that's, that's doing their thing.

I appreciate it.

So here's a question for you: when did you fall in love with comedy?

Uh, man, I ain't got no, no lie. I've been since I was youngin', like literally since I was a baby. Like I said, I'm the youngest of 3 boys and I, I was— it wasn't nothing was uncensored for me. Like I used to, like I watched, I watched Don't Be a Menace before I watched all the real movies that they parodied, you know what I'm saying? So just watching, uh, literally just watching the specials and shit that my people and them were watching. I vividly remember watching Comic View with my people and shit. Like that. But now that I think about it, that's funny. To answer your question, uh, Jamie Foxx, I'm Gonna Need Security. I watched it. Yo, I watched it with my brother. Like I said, I got a brother that graduated 2006. Uh, I watched that with him, with him and his homeboy. But it wasn't even the fact that I was watching the special. I was— they was laughing. My, my brother and his partner was laughing at Jamie Foxx, his jokes. I'm laughing at the jokes too, but we ain't— you gotta think about, we in my brother room and we watching it. Me and his partner laying on the floor, like his partner laying like diagonal like that. Well, we laying perpendicularly.

That nigga got— wait a minute, hold on, that nigga use a big word.

So look, so listen, so listen, we laying perpendicularly, right? I'm look— I— something tell me look at this nigga feet. I look at this nigga feet, this nigga got them claws.

Come on.

And I'm goofy as hell. So these laughing at the jokes, I'm down here laughing at bro feet. I'm like, bro feet out of there.

Like, I'm—

that's hilarious. I'm done laughing. They looking at me laughing hard at me because they think I'm, I'm catching the jokes and like that, but I'm just really down here laughing at bro feet. And when I told my brother, once bro left, he was like, , that's crazy because we always be finding up about his feet. And that died laughing.

And how old were you at that time, if you don't remember?

I don't even remember. I, I was in elementary though.

Damn.

Like, I was literally in— no, no bullshit. I was— I wasn't even— I went— it went past the 5th grade for shit show.

So here's the question: do you think— because of course comedy is one thing, the stage is something else, you know, because a lot of people can be funny, but that don't mean they can be a stand-up comedian, you know what I'm saying? Because some cats, yeah, they funny as hell, no doubt, they are funny as hell.

The stage is different.

But the stage is a different beast with a lot of artists, not your cousins, not your brother, sister, whatever. What, or is there a moment where you was on stage and you like, I love this shit, like this, this is where I want to be at?

Uh, I just say just from the first time I did step on, you know, step on the stage, like I just feel like when you, like for me it's just, I don't know, like it's just, I ain't gonna say it's liberating or no shit like that, like that. But like, it's just, it's a different feeling being on that stage, you know what I'm saying? And just hearing people laugh. But then it's also, you got to think about it, I do it, I do it on Instagram too. I do it on Instagram, I do it on— yeah, you know what I'm saying? I drop it on everything. But just to hear like, like your friends and your partners come up to you and just, just randomly and say like, bro, your videos be having me dying laughing, bro. Like, your video made my day. Like, I was in a bad mood, nigga, then your video popped up and they get changed, you know what I'm saying? Hearing, hearing shit like that, just Sometimes when I'm on stage, I think of shit like that. Like, okay, if I got these people dying laughing right now, they don't know what the fuck going on. Like, I don't know what they got going on. Somebody probably just arguing with their girl or some shit. Somebody, people, parents just, or something just happened, you know, some, some tragedy just might happen, but they still gonna go out because they going out with their people. And at that moment, they laughing and it's just, you know what I'm saying? Like, I be telling people all the time, like, I done had some of my best sets when I done been broke and like my account been in the negatives, you know what I'm saying? So yes, I didn't— I'd have been up there and just going like, just, just having that out about experience, and it's just bringing me through like, shit, yeah, like I make like, you know what I'm saying, having people howling. It's like, what the fuck? You, you watch this on TV.

So, so watch this. I had an interview with Derrick Jack, okay? And funny dude, you know what I'm saying? Like, dude is crazy. But we got to talking about how the stage heals people, our comedy heals people, the The stuff we say heals people. So therefore, as we minister to people and we pour into these jokes, it's gonna, you know, we almost like a maestro. We, we, you know, orchestrate in the room, but sometimes we get off stage and we're empty. So we need to have somebody pouring to us type shit. Yeah. So, so everything you're saying is like right in line what he was saying, because I definitely agree with that. Because there are times where you're like, man, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm sick. My back is hurting, or, you know, I'm old now. Fuck you, nigga. You know what I'm saying? You don't know about that shit. Fuck you. Yeah, I saw you come up these— I was like, this nigga hopping up there with some Crocs. It ain't even no sport mode, you know what I'm saying? Ain't even no sport mode. I have to use the rail. Yeah, man, you see me, nigga? I got 10 screws in his leg. Fuck you. But, but yeah, yeah, I remember one time though, I was at, I was at open mic and I'm looking at my jokes on my phone, right, right? And I'm hearing these young comedians behind me just roasting me. I'm like This nigga talking about me. They like, they ain't— now one of them got a phone out. I looked, that's like, really, nigga? They're like, unk, your fund big as hell, nigga. They started roasting my ass, man.

And see, this is how big was your fund though.

I ain't in your business. I, I— if I show you right there, you gonna laugh. Fuck you, you know what I'm saying?

I'm old.

If you don't see these big-ass glasses right here, got the table leaning.

If you're gonna at least do that, at least lower your brightness, because that's, that's where y'all be That's what it is. Y'all be having y'all brightness high as hell. But see, I'm gonna say this, y'all, y'all be looking at them big ass funds and still doing that, still.

But see, the thing about the brightness, you gotta understand, you know, I don't know if I got cataract, gout, I don't know what the fuck going on, but I can't see sometimes, nigga. And then that brightness be helping because I need to find my car keys too. Oh my God. All right, you keep on living.

I just did a joke about a nigga trying to find his car keys.

See, see, and you keep saying, oh, but that's okay, keep on living, bro.

That's the crazy thing, y'all take that as offense, but that's—

no, I— no, no, Lord, don't—

when I say don't— and not trying to be funny, when I— when I feel like when I say, oh, nigga, or just, you know, just old people, I don't mean it as, you know what I'm saying, you walk around here with a cane and you barely—

I got one in the car.

Like, I don't— I don't mean it like that. I don't mean it like that. I mean it as like, y'all be got having all these new words, seasoned and, uh, uh, school and not— nah, you old. People, some people don't live.

First of all, first of all, let me just say this to you, nigga. I ain't old.

You ain't old, but you're old.

I'm getting—

I'm older.

I'm getting there. You know what I'm saying? My daddy, my daddy watches. Sorry, pops. Uh, my daddy old, you know what I'm saying? You know, that nigga 78, you know what I'm saying? But I mean, what you're saying is 100% true. I can't even be mad at you because I'm older. Like, even now doing these, these shows and stuff, like, I hate open mic because motherfucking open mics be starting like at 8 o'clock. I'm sleepy. And I gotta pee, you know what I'm saying?

You gotta pee?

Yeah.

What time you waking up for work? Who, you?

I'm a comedian, nigga.

11, 11, 12. Okay, so you shouldn't complain about staying out all night.

Oh, I'll be sleepy.

What that mean?

Okay, okay.

Yeah, if you still— why you— how you gonna say I love this shit, I'ma grind for this shit? All right, you talking about open mic or you talking about for a show? That's your fault to going to the open mic. Go get there early then, nigga. Go first and go home.

Like everybody else do. No, hell no.

It work.

Folks open mics start at 8, 9 o'clock. Nigga, I be tired as hell, nigga. I'm trying to go home, watch Seinfeld, you know what I'm saying? Listen, man, I got a question for you. I got a question for you. So Katt Williams kind of exposed the comedy world, you know what I'm saying? He, he exposed comedy world talking about the beefs in the comedy area, you know, this person beef with this person. And we all know it, we all see it. People think it's just comedy, but truth of the matter is it's not just comedy. You know, their lawyers don't like each other, or basketball players don't like each other, whatever. Have you experienced comedy beef since you've been in the game? Because you're on fire. Like, I'm— you literally are on fire. I'm seeing you, I'm watching you, bro. Like, I'm a fan already. No, for real.

I mean, I appreciate it. Oh, I mean, it's being real. Comedy beef, I would just say I don't know, it's, it's the, it's the, like you said, in every world what it is. Like somebody's seeing, probably seeing the light that I'm shining, and rather than, rather than meet them in my light around them, you know what I'm saying, they want like— I don't know, it's just, I don't know. Hey, I wouldn't say I had a beef, but it is, it is certain shit that you question. Like, damn, like I wouldn't have did that. Like I would have Yeah, I'd extended this or I would have did that. But other than that, I wouldn't say it's no comedy beef. And if it is, I ain't gonna lie, I do it. I just— everything.

So, and you know what, I, I like that because sometimes you gotta just keep going. And you're right, there, there are moments where you'd be like, this nigga, did he— you know, like, people be tripping in this kind, but it's, it's competition, but it really ain't.

Literally, it ain't like that. And that's why I be telling people, it's, for me, I look at it like this, it's like It's worse with comics when it comes— it's competition and everything. But say in music, if you got an artist that's on fire and he come out with a fire-ass song, you can have a bigger artist that he probably like, damn, this like— he probably thinking like, damn, this nigga like, he on fire. But he, hey, can I— let's hop on the— let me hop on the remix. And then it— he let him hop on the remix and it elevate the, the whoever, the artist, whoever it is. I feel like with comedy, you can't— you kind of can't do that because it's kind of like an ego stroke. If you, if you featuring for a headliner and you going that hoe and you just not even trying to shit on the headliner or no shit like that, you just going there and do you and they— you go crazy. And then the headliner, I ain't gonna say he can't follow that, but he funny. But it's like, you funny because nigga, we here to see you type shit. But then after the show, it's like, you, you like— people come up to you and say this shit, you was the funniest. Like, shit, it shouldn't be like a damn, like, I ain't gonna fuck with this nigga. No more. It's like, damn, okay.

But it's like that sometimes.

But I'm, I'm a competitor. Like, I'm a competitor. Like, I'm from a sports background. Like I said, I played sports all in high school and shit like that. So I look at it as a competitive— I have a competitive nature. If I, if I put a show— because I do produce a lot of my shows as well— if I produce a show, I'm looking to see how to elevate the show. Like, I'm not gonna put somebody on that bring a lot of people, but they— but I ain't gonna say they're not funny, but they're not funny. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, no, it's like, it's okay, it's gonna kill the show type shit. I'ma, I'ma do the show so that that fits my needs. Like I said, I feel like I come from a comedy background. My people are not in comedy, but literally my people have watched from when I say Comic View to Def Comedy Jam, from people's specials to shit like that, all this shit. Even my brothers, like my mom and my dad, like everybody, when it comes to movies and just everything, like, I feel like we watch— we actually watch that shit and we know what's funny, we know what is in type shit. So I know my crowd gonna come and see— they don't want to see somebody do the— I ain't gonna say same jokes, but if you're gonna do the same jokes, at least have it switch it up to where you, you don't— they don't see where it's coming from type shit. So I, I— me personally, I like to show that if I'm the headliner and everybody kill, all right, I have to kill. If I don't kill, that's on me.

You know what, and it's funny you say this because at the stage that you at, it seems like— and again, I've been watching you Like, it's a lot of people on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. I'm just fans of— I'm a fan of anybody doing something great. So if you are a butcher, if you are a barbecue guy, I'm watching you. I'm like, man, this nigga know how to light a pit.

Nah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?

I'm just— I'm a fan of that. And for you to be already a headliner at this stage, you know, that's normally hard. That's normally, you know, everybody can't do that. Some people got a tight 20, but it normally takes about a year to even get that. You know what I'm saying? So you being a headliner, do you feel the pressure of, you know, say for instance the, the, the opener wasn't that good, or, or the feature wasn't that good, or damn nigga, even the host was bad, and now you gotta come up and lift up the whole room? The room. Have you ever been in a situation where you was like, man, I gotta, I gotta bring it because them niggas dying?

Yeah, I didn't. Yeah, but at the same time, I didn't been a headliner and didn't live up to, or like I said, the nigga going last, and I didn't live up to what I was supposed to, yeah, to do. Or I, I felt that I, that I didn't give the crowd what they wanted. So I mean, I feel like it just, it come with it. Like, literally, that's, that's what I feel like some people don't understand. Like, it comes with it. Like, it literally come with— I look at this shit like sports, that part. Literally, Jordan ain't scored 45 every game or have a triple— like, Russell Westbrook ain't have a triple-double every game, you know what I'm saying? LeBron ain't— niggas ain't postering some shit every game, or you ain't having a great game every, every fucking game. You gonna fuck up.

You know what, and it's funny because you're telling your age by the people you name, right? Because my old ass was like, man, Kareem didn't hit every shot. Kareem, you know, come on, man.

Kareem is crazy. That's—

I'm just playing.

That's 3 decades ago. Talking about now?

Oh, T-Mac is nice. Nice. T-Mac was nice.

You talking about showing my age? Yeah, but like, no, no, I'm just saying, but that's fun. I'm just saying, people in general, I ain't gonna just—

I'm just fucking with you.

I'm not— I'm a sports fan, but I'm, I'm really more so— but no, but I'm a wrestling fan.

But see, here's the thing about it though, because the way y'all look at comedy at, at under 30 compared to me at 50, it's totally different.

What you mean, how you look at it?

Because like me, I look more of the business side. Not saying you don't. Look more of the art of it. And then I'm always looking at older videos with, you know, Richard Pryor, Dick Gregory. I'm studying them guys. Like the GOAT of all GOATs to me is Eddie Murphy. You know what I'm saying? But I also love Jamie Foxx. Like Jamie Foxx, let me say this to the camera. Can't stand your talented ass. Like, I can't stand Jamie Foxx because that nigga got so much talent, and I'm a hater. Fuck it, I'm a hater. I hate that nigga because he's that damn good.

So let me ask you this, okay? You name some, some older comics. Do you look at some of the younger comics?

Oh yeah, I love DC Young Fly.

Okay, okay.

Carlos Miller is funny as fuck. Chico, you know, Chico Bean. Uh, I forgot the white guy, man.

Right.

Huh, Matt Rife, man, that dude is funny, man. And he's like, I can't even describe it. And then my OG, my OG that I just, I always salute this nigga, Ali Siddiqi, you know what I'm saying?

Like, he's, he's not an older, older comic, but I just seen him in person. I just seen, like I said, I'm a fan of comedy. It's like, like I said, I just seen Bill Burr in person. I just seen Dave. Oh yeah, I seen Bill Burr at the American Airlines. I seen Dave Chappelle when he was shooting his special at the Dickies. Well, he didn't shoot at Dickies, but when he was shooting for his special, yeah, I seen him at Dickies. I seen Alisa D. I was at one of his specials that he shot this past— last year. So, um, and I'm going to see him again in November.

So, so you're a student?

Yeah, like I said, and I didn't say— I didn't seen Gary Owen, I didn't seen, uh, Desi Banks, I didn't seen Chico Bean.

Desi Banks is funny.

I seen, uh, Arnaz J. So I, like I said, I didn't goat. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I didn't work with some of the goats, so I didn't work with, uh, Joe Torre. I didn't work with, uh, you know, I saw that. Goddamn, y'all work with Scrunchow. I work with Kenny Howe. People, like I said, I'm so high, I'm hype as fuck about Kenny.

But see, and that's what I'm saying, I don't know if you understand where you at right now. It's not common type shit. No, not, not at the time, because most people, you got to wait 10 years to start getting those type of Bookings.

I'm saying Chris Thomas and Damon Williams.

Oh, you're talking about the mayor of, uh, rap city? Lower Rap City.

I just did Damon Williams. I just did his whole weekend. I just hosted his whole weekend for him.

That's what I'm saying. Like, where you at is, it's not common. And maybe to you it's just normal business, but—

and no, not trying to be funny. Like I said, me being a student, I know how crazy that is that I'm working with these comics. But I like— I'm not saying that I want other people people to realize that. But I'm like, y'all not real. Oh no, no, y'all not realizing what the fuck I'm doing right now. Like I said, it's for me. Like you said, I'm still looking at it like as a fucking fan of— I'm like, bro, I just literally work with Kenny. Like, I work with Kenny. I didn't work with Kenny Howard 4 times and got— and like I said, what's up OG, you good? Like, I didn't work with— I didn't work with Derek Keener. Derek Keener, my OG, and he was, he was, he was the one driving Alisa Dicke wherever they was going. And Ilyssa D. Top hip comedy. He on tour with, uh, the Chinese, uh, comic. What's his name? Jimmy, uh, I forgot his name. He was on Hot Tub Time Machine. Jimmy.

Oh, oh yeah.

Um, yeah, he on, uh, he don't—

I know you're talking about that.

Yeah, he don't— he, he doing his, his tour.

He doing theater.

So like I said, I feel like I mean, like you said, I'm in good company and I feel like I'm, I'm, uh, like I said, I'm just a student of the game. Game. And that's, that's what I feel like some people don't see.

Like, well, and that's, and that's, that's to me, that's to me, you have an old soul, right? You know what I'm saying? Old spirit, just because of the way you approach the comedy game. And I think that's why you are moving the way that you're moving, because of the fact that everyone don't have that gene, right? You know, I'm sure you, you've seen comics that get up there, they just drunk, they just talking shit, and you like, man, y'all niggas, I gotta, I gotta go to work tomorrow, you know what I'm saying? Like Like, y'all just BSing. Oh, I'm just gonna do some crowd work. , you ain't funny, you know? And I'll be honest with you, I, I get irritated when people come, um, to a comedy club and people didn't pay, and then they don't— they're not serious, you know what I'm saying? Like, what are you doing, bro? Like, they get up there and they just try to freestyle. I'm like, bro, you don't— you— that's not where you at.

I just got told I was wrong last week. I just did that. That shit. He an older cat, but he was a young— he's a young comic. get up there talking some crazy shit. I'm like, bro, the crowd not even entertained. And so I'm like, I'm like, bro, you— I address it on the stage. I'm going, you know.

Oh, you did it on stage?

That's not it, bro. Like, and that's what I was trying to explain. There's like some people like, you wrong. But I'm like, that's what y'all don't understand. Dallas comedy is not where it needs to be. I ain't gonna say not where it needs to be. It's a, like you said, it's a lot of funny ass people in the Dallas comedy scene, Dallas forward comedy scene. But it's the fact that we have a lot of people saying that they're comics and they're not actually comics. They just getting up there because it's a Tuesday night and they wanna talk some shit. Like you said, people come to pay their money. Like I said, it's a lot of people I know that, that did a lot of shit. Like I said, my rate, like think my resume— like, some people in here, that resume, you like, goddamn, you did what I'm saying, though? You know what I'm saying? So it's just, bro, for, for me, I feel like right now with the Dallas comedy scene, it's a renaissance. Okay, okay. I like that. With the, with the younger comics. Like, the younger comics are creating their own lane if the comedy clubs is not booking us, and which is making them looking like, oh shit. And now there's they're trying to book us or whatever, or we're, we're getting to the point where we're getting booked at the comedy clubs and we're packing it out.

So let me ask you this right here. Do you think that, do you think that, um, as a, as a comedian, you got to have a little swag, a little arrogance, a little confidence when you get up there? Because some people, you know, they say, oh man, you know, y'all are arrogant. I personally feel like if you get on stage, you got to have a level of confidence, arrogance, like I can make you laugh. I don't give a damn what you're going through.

No, it's crazy you say that, but I, I've been talking about sports. I look at it as like wrestling. I'm a big wrestling fan, okay? WWE, all that shit, WCW. I'm a big fucking wrestling fan. So I look at it as like a wrestler. They gotta have the charisma to catch everybody's eye. Now you got to get in the ring and you got to actually wrestle and do some cool shit to make people and your ring gear gotta look icy so they can fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? So I just, I look at it as, as an aspect of, uh, wrestling. Like I said, you got the— you got your Macho Man Randy Savage. Oh yeah, you got them Hulk Hogan. Nah, fuck Hulk Hogan. Yeah, fuck him. But I'm saying though, look, fuck Hulk Hogan. I'm not— definitely fuck Hulk Hogan. But I'm saying that's who you got. You got these people, you got people like that in the industry. You got your Rocks. Yeah, yeah, see, you see what I was doing there? You got your Rocks, you got, you got your goddamn CM Punk, John Cena, you get Stone Cold, which was my favorite wrestler. Look at who I got my merch, uh, after, um, yeah, I do my merch after Stone Cold, uh, okay, yeah, the goddamn Booker T, shit, The Undertaker, uh, who else, shit, you got all, you got all these people. Like I said, with wrestling, like I said You gotta have the charisma, you gotta, you know, you gotta look the part, you gotta go in there, you gotta tell a story as well. So I look, I look at comedy as wrestling.

So when you go on stage, do you, you find yourself trying to dress different than everybody else, or you just wear your merch and, you know?

So I, I, I got merch, I got my merch 2 or 3 years in, I think. I can't remember.

That's what I'm saying though, you don't— you doing stuff people that Man, I was only 10 years in the game doing—

I, and I, and like I said, I don't have— I ain't gonna say I— now I now have OG that I talk to, like I said, which is Derek King. I try to talk to him every once a week type shit. Okay. But I don't, I don't have OG. I don't know the quote-unquote rules to comedy. Yeah. I didn't know you weren't supposed to ask niggas to get on the show.

Why not?

Supposed, like I said, supposedly that's a, that's a rule.

Whoever told you that shit, they full of shit.

Yeah, not ask, but you supposed to work. But like I said, I didn't ask. I didn't ask to get on people's shows type shit. I didn't, you know what I'm saying, I didn't wear flip— I went with shit. I didn't wear flip-flops, head featuring for niggas and shit like that. But like I said, I feel like that's different. It's not disrespect for me. It's like, boom, if you don't remember my name, you're gonna remember, oh, the nigga with the flip-flops was funny. Yeah, come on, come on, you know what I'm saying? That's, that's how I'm thinking of it. It's not a, oh, I'm going up there on some bullshit. I'll throw on a nice little fit and throw the flip-flops on to make it look, you know, like, oh, this nigga here. Now I wanna, like I said, I want— but when you go up, I want you to say, this nigga got on flip-flops. Like, okay, you already trying to— and then I say some shit in that first joke, he like, oh, all right, okay, yeah, yeah, I see what it is, you know what I'm saying? That's what it is. Not a, I'm wearing flip-flops, I'm wearing flip-flops, fuck it, I just want to wear flip-flops. It's like a—

well, here's what's funny, because I literally And me and, uh, Derrick Jack was talking about this last night. I seen him at the Improv. He seemed cool. He was talking to Better the Exception, and I was like, man, I'm new to Dallas, I don't know anybody, you know what I'm saying? And I just walked up to him and we started talking. All right, cool guy, whatever, cool brother. Uh, and then when I saw he was doing Derrick, you know, Friends, uh, probably said the wrong thing. I haven't worked with But, but he was doing that at the Red Room in Hyenas. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

He always there.

So, so I inbox him, say, bro, you got space for me? Like, okay. He said, I think he said, are you funny? I was like, fuck yeah, right? Or something. I forgot what I said. I said some arrogant shit, whatever. And then I got on stage and I only had like 10 minutes. That's not a lot for me, but that's a lot. So I'm like, I'm gonna make this shit count enough. I mean, but I mean, I tell stories, you know what I'm saying? So I gotta build up to it, but But fuck it, I was like, I'm number closing. So I did like 3 of my closing jokes back to back, blah blah blah, and then I got off stage, he looked at me like, all right, I like you, you know what I'm saying? Because there are certain people that you just know that that's what they do, like they are real comedians. I'm not even dogging nobody else, but when I saw your shit, I said, okay, that's, that's a, that's, that's young Thundercat. That's how I said it. I ain't gonna lie, I'm an old ass nigga.

That's what I said.

But I was like, I said, man, that old nigga right there, good. Yeah, good at what he do. I'm telling you, bro. And when, and when this comes out, I want you to see the cats that's been on for a long time. You're gonna like, damn, I was the youngest. Yes, because you're doing your shit, bro.

You know what I'm saying? I appreciate it.

So, so I do have a question. Do you, you find yourself having to change up, change up your jokes when it comes to an older— I'm gonna say a fuck it— a white crowd and a Black crowd? You just be you. Okay.

I say nigga in front of them too, because I know they— we all know everybody say nigga.

See, that's interesting. And not just that, but I know some people, when they see white people in the audience, they kind of change up their stuff. I don't think you should.

And know what's crazy? I get more racist when I see white people. I put it like that. I do more racist jokes when I see white people.

Okay, you got to explain that.

Like, I do my— we know y'all say niggas. Okay. I, uh, I tell them I got a joke. I say the streaming service is racist. Why? You ever listen to shit with the subtitles on? You watch shit with the subtitles on? No. If you watch shit with the subtitles on, it make you hear better type shit. Okay, but okay, translate and they transcribe every word, literally whatever it is. They try— they translating, they trans— they literally whatever it is. A bomb going off, boom, kaboom, AK-47, what eerie music. Okay, they literally transcribe everything. But me and you can be talking just like this and I'd be like, what's up my nigga, nigga, you know they still gonna spell it N-I-G-G-E-R.

You know what, you just fucked me up because now I'm going to look at the subtitles next time I watch a movie.

Deadass.

Just, just to see, like, this motherfucker was right, you know, real shit.

And for me, I'm like, come on now, y'all, literally, what the fuck is eerie? I didn't know what eerie music was until I fucking turned on the subtitles.

It does say that. It says eerie music.

So I'm like, somber? What the— like, it literally translates everything. Like, hell, even the essays, they say nigga more putting up sometimes.

So by you being that way on stage and, you know, doing your thing, is there a topic in comedy that you like, nah, I ain't gonna— I ain't gonna go there?

That, uh, that child pedophilia shit, the pedophile shit, or niggas joking about that shit. I don't like that shit.

Yeah, I got you. Because, because, you know, these open mics and stuff like that, sometimes you'd be like, yeah, I don't like that shit.

Even, even when the whole, oh, I had sex with my grandma, or all this. I don't like shit like that.

And that really ain't us.

That's like— and I'm not saying— I'm just saying in general, like, that shit just nasty. Like, it's like, like, even like— not even that, even rape jokes, talking about, oh, you gonna— come on, man. No, no.

It's funny, I was doing open mic in San Antonio and I invited some comics and they had never performed in front of Black people. And so we had a nice crowd, it's nothing but Black people. Nothing but Black people in there. And the first thing he talked about, about raping his sister— when I tell you, Black women start rising up, like going towards— I say, wait, wait, oh, I say, all right, man, good, good job. You know, I'm trying to— he kept going. I was like, bro, good, give me the fucking mic. Like, they about to whoop your ass. Like, you ain't gonna get to your car. I think what they— first of all, you got to read the room. One. Two, you gotta culturally know the audience that you're performing in front of.

Definitely.

And we don't play that rape shit. We don't play that, none of that shit.

Yeah, that shit weird. I just think it's weird, but I ain't gonna lie, you said that, I, um, I headlined at the Arlington Hill Pride, uh, it was like late December, like around Christmas time. Put a young killer on there, dude named George Brown. Okay. He only 18. Y'all look him up, white dude.

Damn.

Okay. He, he, he just went to college. Ripped that bitch.

And he was where? At the Improv?

Improv, room full of black people. Just what you said, ripped that bitch. Like, I like that. Like, on some, like, doing his shit, doing—

not trying to be Fender.

He doing his shit. And they in that hope, you know what I'm saying? It's people in their 40s and 50s. I said, oh yeah, we gotta, we gotta kill it. I said, yeah, boy, you like that.

So, so what is your style of comedy? Like, what makes you stand out? Like, say, my style?

Yeah. Uh, I feel like I literally absorbed everything. Like, if you didn't see what slapstick, goddamn woke, goofy—

okay, see, the fact that you said slapstick is not something I was expecting too much about.

Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

You're a student, bro.

You know what I'm saying? All that, all that shit I do— I— when I say I got— I feel like I got everything in my bag. I got— because like I said, I'm a student. I didn't seen Jim Carrey do that dumb shit where he throw himself back and slam on the ground. You like, how this nigga ain't dislocate some shit? And he pop back up. I didn't seen that shit. I didn't seen this nigga, Sex Entertainer, give fucking animals traits and shit like that. I didn't— wow, I didn't seen that shit, you know what I'm saying? I didn't seen Cat talk about some woke shit but make it real funny as fuck and make you forget that it's some woke shit or some shit that's real, like, fucked up. You like, goddamn, that's Anybody that ever told you differently was a fat Faison liar. Fat Faison liar is crazy.

Yeah, that's crazy.

That's like, that's fucked up. Like a fat Faison liar. Like, come on now, bro. You done made a whole new word for this man, bro.

So, 'cause I'm more impressed meeting you.

Right.

You know what I'm saying? I'm more impressed meeting you because I'm listening to you and everything you're saying is like, it's resonating like you an old dude. Like, and I'm not being funny when I say it's a compliment, please understand.

Yeah, I definitely—

I appreciate it because I'm, I'm, you know, we interviewed a lot of people and stuff like that. You're gonna see, and I'm just listening to you talking like somebody that's been doing comedy 20 years, you know what I'm saying? Like, that, that is, that is rare of someone to be that way. So I'm curious now of your Mount Rushmore of comedy?

See, that's hard because I'm saying I ain't gonna put nobody on this bitch.

Okay, okay. It's gonna be an empty—

oh, Daylon, Daylon, and Daylon, and Daylon, because I spit that fire.

Okay.

And that's Wiz Up, Wiz Up, Wiz Up.

Okay, okay. Okay, so let me ask you that. I know you work with a lot of different people. Have you ever— and don't, you don't have to name it I want to be respectful and we're not trying to cross no, no bullshit or whatever. But have you ever worked with a comic and maybe he was a fan at first and you like, yo, old boy be eating, and then you meet him and you like, okay, that motherfucker's an asshole, or them, you know, wasn't that cool or whatever?

Oh, hell yeah.

You don't have to say no names because I ain't gonna say that.

I feel like it's a lot of them though.

Now if you want to say a name, I ain't gonna be mad at you.

She gonna go viral. You on that whack 100 shit?

No, fuck with back. First of all, I seen this nigga and I don't—

you look like that nigga.

He look like he Nigerian, like, you know, I got Nigerian blood in me cuz I did the little ancestry shit.

What, 1%?

I don't know, man. I did the ancestry shit and I was 1% caucus. I was mad as fuck. Nah, 1%? I ain't no fucking caucus shit. But, but you don't have to say his name.

But no, I ain't gonna say no names, but I feel like I just— not even famous, but just in general, I have been work— have not done— I said that I have worked with some comics and I was like, I wouldn't give a fuck if I work with these niggas ever again. Literally, like, even, even— and I've been working with— I didn't miss some comics. I'd be like, oh, this bitch, like, fuck this nigga. Like, I can't wait. And I ain't gonna say can't wait, but I'll be like, I can't wait to get to the point where I can shit on this nigga. Not even shit on them, but let them know, like, hey, you know what I'm saying? You a hoe for this. And like, don't ever do that to nobody else, bro. You don't know what— like I said, like, I'm more so for for the people, bro. Like I said, I just seen my— like, my parents— I feel like my parents raised me like that. Some people, parents raised them or taught them how to make some money or taught them how to do this or do that. Like, my people taught me how to stand on like my values and my morals and treat people right. Like, you know what I'm saying? What you put out and what you give to people, you know what I'm saying, you get it back. And they just didn't sit there and say it. Like, they literally led by example, if that made sense. So like I didn't see that shit with my people. My pop's a preacher and a fucking police officer. Oh shit. Yeah, he just retired from the police force. He got it.

My pops got his own Dallas police, Fort Worth, 28 years. Look, because people be hating on cops, but no, I can't say that.

No, but we don't back the blue though. Well, I don't.

Well, it's one of those things where there's a fine line because there are times when you happy a Black police is there, that way the white people won't beat you.

Nah, my people was like— when I say my pops was like for the community, my pops for— he ran my little league when I, when I played football. He, he ran the little league. Uh, shit, I went— my— the high school I went to, my— he was the resource officer there. So like, I literally got to see— I see my pops, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm curious, you say he's a preacher too? So it's interesting because I talked to, uh, another comedian and he talked about his family supporting him, you know. But it was— sometimes the church don't always support what you're doing because they like, oh, he's a sinner, he's a— have you had issues with, with that? Not just from your dad or whatever, but just church folks said—

when I say my people 100% supportive, it ain't the pointing the finger shit. It's literally— I love it. My people, like, my pe— my people love it. They know, like, you gotta have your fun. At the same time, you know what I'm saying? You gotta know why you here type shit. You gotta live in your purpose, but we know how to have fun at the same time.

So it's interesting now that you said that, because— and I probably put that in there somewhere— but RJ Prince, his dad's a— yeah, his pops a preacher, and he was talking about just the timing and everything. He said, man, I didn't realize I had time, and I didn't realize this, this. And I was like, you think it came from watching your dad for so many years because you, you get to watch. Because most people don't know this, I, I was, I was a preacher pastor for over 20 years. Damn. Yeah. And I was just like, I don't do no organized religion, whatever. No, you know, Kirk Franklin's a cool-ass dude. He's coming. No, he used to come to San Antonio.

He's going to school with my people.

Macedonia Baptist Church. Before, you know, shout out to Pastor Daley, before he became Big Kirk Franklin. And then when I met him on a cruise, on Tom Joyner cruise. Yeah, he was just a cool dude.

Yeah, he cool, he cool. Everybody from Fort Worth cool.

You know what, and it's funny you say that, but we're gonna talk about that in a minute. But comedy was kind of easier for me because of the fact that it reminded me of preaching. The way I write my jokes, the way I was preaching— shit, no, remember, we, we are, we are healers, you know what I'm saying? But I'm curious because if you watch your dad for so many years do, uh, um, I'm sorry, behind the pulpit.

But that's, that's the crazy thing. My pops just became a preacher. He became like a, um, okay, was it a minister? I think he became a minister my 5th grade year, my 5th grade or my 6th grade year.

But you still watched him? You said he just became— nigga, that was 30 years ago.

See, you put— then that was 30 years ago for me. Nigga, you at least gotta be 100. No way.

All right, all right.

No, he, he became a minister in a, uh, a minister, whatever, like since my 6th grade year. Then he started actually like preaching, preaching like around middle school, maybe when I was in middle school. And then we didn't— we, we— he finally got his church my sophomore year in high school.

Okay, so he's a pastor now?

Yeah, so he like an actual pastor now. But like I said, he was preaching, like going to different churches preaching and yeah, interviewing, I guess, with me, whatever it is. Yeah. Trying to see if he gonna be the pastor of their church type shit. So, but then he only got his own church.

And it's, and it's funny because associate ministers are the features and the pastors are the headliners, you know what I'm saying? And it's crazy because I used to get booked as an associate minister, but then the money went up when I became a pastor. I'm like, I pay good as a pastor because they know you're gonna bring the crowd. They knew because you're a pastor, you have a name, you're gonna bring people with you. So it's interesting.

Type of power, bro.

Think about it. I mean, think—

it do. Not now though. You got, you got some local niggas, local preachers that's making a killing in this.

That part, bro. But then also you got, you got some cats that— because to me, headlining is something totally different, right? Like, I, I, I tell people, yeah, you might be good for 20 minutes, but can you hold people's attention for 45 minutes to an hour? That shit is harder than people think it is, you know what I'm saying? But I, I like people that understand the game, understand, uh, what they've been through, you know, as far as like how it helps them. Do you, do you use your life, um, on stage, or do you, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, one of my, one of my like first closers was a, uh, a real life scenario of two handicapped dudes fighting in middle school. Okay, so just picture that. So listen, I'm listening. Yeah, no, I ain't gonna even tell that because they gotta come see that.

I got you, I got you.

But like I said, that just— yeah, like I said, I— like I said, I'm a student of the game. So you gotta think about it, when some comedians be telling their jokes, they real life be telling real life stories. And then you got just some just goofy, goofy stories, or stories that real life happened but they stretched out with goofy shit in them. So I literally combine all that shit into whatever I'm doing.

Have you found yourself laughing at the wrong time? Not necessarily on stage, but like just in life? Like you're somewhere, you're like, man, I shouldn't have laughed, but this is what I—

all the time, all the time.

Every comedian I've asked that question, I think I would say everybody do though.

Everybody that had them on, every comedian tonight, you probably some doctors fucking operating on the nigga and probably in that hole and he didn't fuck around and fart.

It was like My bad.

And he started, you know what I'm saying, he didn't fart it and niggas don't know nothing. Who's stinking here? Yeah, whoever's doing that, please knock it off.

Okay, so I'm assuming you're not married?

No.

Okay, you go to a girl's house first time, you know, you haven't hit yet. I gotta make sure I say that, you have not hit yet because that, that's important. You go to the house for the first time, she's getting dressed or whatever. As she's coming out the room, as she's literally coming out the room, you see a big old roach on the wall that's about to go airborne. What's your next move?

And I haven't hit—

hold on, every comedian says the same thing, like, but have I hit yet? You know what I'm saying? Because it's—

and like, what you mean by, like, is the house clean and it's a roach, or is the house dirty and it's a roach? Because you can't give me Scenario.

Okay, let's say the house is dirty and there's a big-ass roach about to just go airborne on your ass because you see the wings, like, you know, he about to do the R. Kelly I Believe I Can Fly. What's your next move? You gonna, you gonna, you gonna ignore it? You're gonna roast her ass? You're gonna try to hurry up and leave?

I'm gonna let her know.

You don't say something?

Yeah, if it's still— hey, it's a roach. I'm not gonna— I mean, you know what I'm saying? I done been in some situations, man. I didn't— I had one girl tell me, I don't believe in God no more, before we finna fuck. Okay. And that threw me out, like, huh? And she was like, no, like, I'm saying, I don't— like, I know it's a high power, like, all right. But then we, you know, we was smoking and shit, but I feel like— I felt— I don't know if it was the weed or not, but I feel like she said some devilish shit. Bitch, when I looked, she was just still chilling.

So I'm like, man, did you hit though? Yeah.

Okay, okay. I had a— I had, I had one girl tell me one time, she said, yeah, I don't use deodorant no more, it got aluminum in it. This bitch squirted lemons on her foot.

Come on, dog.

I said, is this bitch a street taco? What is going on? This bitch is squirting lime on herself. I said, bro, what?

Are you serious?

I swear to God, had the lime. You think I'm bullshitting? So It was— I swear to God, this chick that I— in college, we used to just smoke, literally smoke, and, you know, we used to do our thing. So, oh, you at the crib? Yeah. You trying to smoke? Yeah. That was the thing. So we smoke and we, you know, do our thing. Go over there one day, nigga, and I'm like— I go over there, she like, uh, she like, yeah, I'm in it. No, she was telling me the door unlocked, walk in. So I walk in, lock the door, whatever, walk in the room, and she like, uh, I'm finna be out, just, you know, make yourself comfortable. I'm like, bitch, I look on the dresser, I see the limes. I'm like, wow, shots or something. Like, they don't like— they don't like—

thought y'all about do some—

yeah, I'm like, oh shit, get out. She doing a little routine, brushing her teeth and shit. She like, yeah, I don't use the other no more. And I'm like, huh? I'm like, right here, I'm like, bitch, you lucky you just got a shower. Like, you know what I'm saying? Musty. Yeah, because if you musty I get on your ass type shit.

And what she don't know, there's the other that doesn't have a load.

I'm sorry, some college shit. You know, niggas find theyself in college, niggas experiment with everything.

Yeah, but she's a funky—

like I said, I was giving her that benefit of the doubt. Like, oh, she one of them people that's trying to—

but she was fine.

Yeah, she was, she was straight.

Because if she wasn't fine, you wouldn't, you wouldn't, you would have been like, she was fine. This is one of my best All right, how, how important do you feel social media is? Now I'm gonna say this right here, me as an older person, now I'm getting into it because of what we're doing here, but how important do you feel like social media is for the new style of comedy? Because I know there's people that blew up off social media, you know, DC Young Fly, um, Country Wayne, like them guys, but then they also are great comics too.

Put in the work.

Yeah, they put in the work, you know what I'm saying? But how important do you think that is? Because I've seen where clubs look at how many followers you got before they book you.

Yeah, uh, it's definitely important. It's— even though it could be either a good thing or a bad thing, um, okay, for me it's just like I said, I hate it. Like you said, they look at the numbers, they're like, damn, you looking at these numbers. I definitely get it though. Looking at the numbers. But at the same time, it's like, yeah, this motherfucker got all these followers, but anybody, it's like you said, the stage is a different beast. So it's just, it just depends, honestly. Like I said, not, um, bro, like real shit, like you said, like, I don't want you to get in trouble, I ain't trying to start nothing, but I literally have watched Desi Banks, like, his career from the beginning to where he at now. Like, literally when he was on TikTok during the TikTok. Even before the TikToks, when he was on Twitter, he was still playing football. Like, I followed this man since then, and I seen him, uh, when did I— yeah, I seen him, I think, right before I started doing comedy, or like right after. I seen him at the Improv. Yeah, I know it was right before I started because we was still like doing COVID. And I ain't gonna say he wasn't funny, but now looking back at it, he was still new. Yeah. And at the time, I'm like, that nigga not funny. But now he doing theaters and shit like that. So like, I feel like Instagram and shit like that, like you said, it definitely plays a big role because you get those people that see you on the internet that's already fans that's gonna come fuck with you regardless.

Yeah.

So even if you just a smidgen funny, like you ain't just all the way funny where they just fucking with it all the way, even if you just a smidgen, they gonna work with you. They're gonna give you a second chance. That second time you funnier than the last time. Oh no, yeah, he's been working. Yeah, yeah, I'm fucking with it. So I feel like, like you said, it's like not just Instagram, but social media in general is just— it's definitely important, but it also can be deceiving because you get those people that just getting, getting in it because they're like, oh, I do got 100,000 followers, a million followers, whatever. I bet I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna say I'm a comedian, I'm gonna go do this, this shit. And And I'm not actually getting on the stage where it's literally some niggas with 1,000 followers that then opened up for everybody named Mama. And that's funny as hell, but they don't have the followers, that part. So I, I don't know, I feel like you, if you, if you gonna be a comedian, at least step outside your— for me and what I've seen, at least step outside the box and start with— and not start with, but do videos and shit like that. Because I actually started off doing videos. I've been doing videos since I called myself a comic. Me and my brothers be on Snapchat. I'm doing dumb shit, playing the Space Jam background music, hooping on the little goal with a jersey on, doing shit like that. Uh, I don't know, damn, you, you say you from San Antonio, but I got— I even got a video that went viral a long time ago before I even considered myself being a comic. I had a big Dez Bryant jersey on, real big white Dallas Cowboys jersey on, jigging in it.

Put—

posted on Twitter Zeke and Dak, they rookie year when they was winning all those games. Everybody's reposting, getting thousands and hundreds of views, retweets and all that shit. And a lot of people still don't know that's me.

Wow. So let me just say this to the camera: fuck the Cowboys. Fly Eagles, fly! I'm not— I know I'm in Dallas, but I'm not a Cowboys fan either though. That's crazy.

I'm a Baltimore Ravens fan.

Oh shit, tough game, tough game last night. Um, I'm just saying, anyway, so I, I like what you said because people don't understand there are times where you have to grow. With comedians, we grow on stage. Even doing open mics, we can't really grow on 5 minutes, right? You know what I'm saying? Unless you got the mics where they might— ain't nobody show up, they let you just go. But people don't understand, we have to grow in front of a live audience type shit. So even then I might be tired. You know, I might've got some bad news right before I did a show. Like a lot of times an hour before the show I put my phone on airplane mode. 'Cause—

Damn, you the second comic I heard say that.

Because I got kids. Like, you know, I got a 26-year-old, a 30-year-old. I know, don't laugh at me. My daughter be 34 next month. And it's crazy. Then I got a grandson.

Right.

You know, so sometimes I get a phone call right before I hit the fucking show. Mistake or whatever. And I used to answer the phone, but I learned that through preaching— no, I'mma shut everybody off. Whatever's going on, make it off, because I don't— real quick, do you watch comics and have you found yourself being such a fan that you emulate somebody's style? The reason I said that is because I'm a big fan of Earthquake. I'm a huge fan of Earthquake. Uh, I think Earthquake is a bad motherfucker. Unfortunately, first time I met him, nigga drunk as fuck. He don't remember, but it is what it is. He did show in San Antonio. He was drinking that hen dog. It is what it is, but he still got on stage and ripped. He got on stage and ripped, and he was cool. It was cool, but the nigga was drunk anyway. So I find myself emulating him sometimes, so I don't watch his stuff like at least 2 weeks to a month if I'm gonna do a show. Because I find myself matching his cadence because I'm such a fan, you know what I'm saying? Is there somebody where you like, I got— I can't watch this dude because I find myself like his mannerisms or her mannerisms or whatever?

Nah, because like I said, I'm a student of it. I feel like I take a bit of everybody's stuff. Okay, make it mine. That makes sense.

I love it.

But I, I do know what you're saying, but it worked. I ain't gonna say it worked for me, but I wouldn't say that I LisaD, but The kind of— some of the jokes I have, like I said, after watching, I'm like, oh, these— this is a story. I gotta tell this as a story, not a set-up punchline. This is an actual story. So I, I would say it helped, helped that joke out rather than, like you said, just not following the cadence but looking like, okay, this is, this is an actual story. This— I have to tell a story with this joke. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I would say it like that, or even then, because I said, I host. You can't go up there hosting trying to fucking tell the story. You gotta get there, have some punchlines. So, and it's crazy you say that because when I very— when I was in, when I was still 2 years in, I, I have myself— I literally, for myself, I would cut on Def Comedy Jam. I have watched Def Comedy Jam the first season to the last season. I don't know how many times I can tell you, I can just like literally just hearing people jokes. Yeah, just hearing the cadences and just hearing the confidence and seeing the confidence of people going up there. I'm like, okay, bit like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm probably eyeing a shirt or just look, looking like, all right, I love it, you know what I'm saying? That's how I'm looking at it. I'm not looking at it like, oh, I'm gonna take this, like, nah, like, no, I love that because what people don't understand, our environment helps shape us.

So if I'm listening to comedy all day you're gonna have a comedic mindset throughout your day. If you're listening to bullshit all day, you're gonna be mad, negative, and pissed off at the world all day.

I learned that through going to work. I used to be listening to that Young Nigga music going to work. I'm like, bro, this shit—

oh, you, you are— I'm laughing because you—

but no, I still—

but you— I'm saying, but you, you're— and again, I, I know you're gonna get tired of me saying this, I'm so impressed because you have an old soul.

Nah, but I do listen— like I said, my favorite artist. My favorite rapper is Kodak. Kodak Black.

Really?

Yeah, I listen to— I can listen to Kodak all day.

Okay, what about Kendrick? You like Kendrick?

Who?

Kendrick?

No, I listen to— I listen to everybody. Yeah, but I ain't gonna lie, Florida got my heart when it come to music. Florida and just down south music in general. Okay, you get all that UGK, all that shit, just that shit got my heart. I ain't gonna lie to you. But like I said, I was— it was at a point in time I'm like, bro, I'm listening to this, to the to rap music too fucking early in the morning. So I do R&B, I do '80s and '90s R&B, I listen to that. Yeah, but then I found my sound like, bro, I got a whole gospel playlist that I listen to every morning, you know what I'm saying? And I got a daughter, I take my daughter to daycare every day, so literally we listening to gospel the whole way there. Just getting myself in there, even with traffic, even with me getting mad, having road rage, I'm like, okay, okay, and it's still on.

So, and it's funny you say that because Yeah, I, I watched Paternity Court too much, you know what I'm saying? And Paternity Court, like, 90% of the men ain't the daddy. And then I'm out here, I'm dating, I don't trust no goddamn body. Like, bitch, you probably gonna be on Paternity Court, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, you know what I'm saying? So I like that, I like that. Do me a favor, I need you to look at that camera right there, let everybody know, give everybody your social media stuff, like where they can find you. Uh, you know, where you at and shows you got coming up, you know, however they can contact you. Because when we air this shit, I want people to know, hey, okay, that's that guy.

Say this, all right? Big, big TikTok, YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, Wizop Comedy, W-I-Z-O-P Comedy, C-O-M-E-D-Y Comedy. That's all of that. Facebook, Wesley Roberts, no T. Yeah, I don't know how to change my shit on Facebook. It is what it is. But if y'all want to book me and email me, wizopcomedy1@gmail.com. I love it, I love it.

Hey man, thank you for taking time out today, man. I'm saying, I really appreciate you, man. Um, you know, and I know you had come a long way. That shows your dedication. And again, I didn't see how far you were, and I'm like, God damn, that's pretty Right. So I appreciate your commitment. Appreciate you keeping your word and showing up, man. Uh, say this another episode of Turning Corners.

Ah, holla!

Yes sir, appreciate you, boy. Thing about being the Trailblazer, you gonna smell like smoke. Yes sir, going city to city, we turning corners when you with Trailblazers.