In this interview, Tony Robbins and Rob Dial discuss the deeper aspects of personal identity, describing a core "soul" or "spirit" that transcends past experiences and limitations. Robbins explains that lasting transformation requires immersive experiences, likening a four‑day, 10‑14‑hour daily Unleash the Power Within (UPW) event to a 90‑day language immersion in Italy, arguing that the brain learns best through deep, sustained exposure. Rob shares his breakthrough moment at UPW, discovering that he can generate high energy on demand, even after 13 hours of continuous activity. Robbins expands on this, stating that chronic fatigue is a sign of physiological weakening rather than overwork, and that cultivating on‑command energy is essential for passion, relationships, business growth, and overall vitality. He emphasizes that health and vitality are the foundation for any other success, and that repeated exposure to high‑energy environments teaches individuals to access this energy consistently.
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There's a part of your identity that's more than the things that you can limit yourself. There's a part of you that's more than anything has ever happened to you or could happen to you. There's a part of you that is called soul or spirit. It's something that nothing can destroy. We get you to tap into that aspect of identity, we can create a compelling future, but otherwise we're just making pictures and you're not going to believe it. You're just going to go, yeah, yeah. That's all bullshit. Right? So that's why we put people through an experience that goes 10, 12, 14 hours a day for three or four days. Because it's kind of like if I want to learn Italian, I can go to class in high school and college and, you know, five years later, most people don't speak it. But if I dropped you in Italy for 90 days with no teacher, 90 days later you're going to be speaking because we put you in immersion. So everything I do is immersion because that's how the brain really learns in a way that's lasting.
Yeah. The biggest thing that I, like, there was many things I took away from being a upw, but one of the biggest things, if not the biggest, was how on command, we can create energy in our body. Like, it's, it's wild. I remember like the third day, it was like 13 hours in. It's like 2 o' clock in the morning and I'm like, how the am I still dance? Like, how. How is there so much energy in this room? And it was really, really inspiring because there's so many people that just, they don't think they have enough energy throughout. Oh, I'm so tired. And then they have this story that's in their head.
Tired. Just think of it this way. If you got the greatest computer in the world and you plug it in, there's not electricity. It's not going to work. Right. Well, tired is the first step to being depressed for most people. And most people are tired not because they're working so hard. Like, oh man, I worked so hard today. What'd you do? Oh, I had meeting after meeting, you know, I sat in these meetings, you know, and I talked to people or I make calls or I send emails, and they're like, I'm exhausted. I mean, what's happened is we haven't pushed ourselves physiologically for so long that we've gotten weaker and weaker, and so we feel tired from doing nothing. And so what you learn when you go through a weekend like that is holy shit. There is a level of energy on command that's available to me that no one, you never believe. But by being in the environment over and over again, you learn it's real and you learn to use it. And when there's enough energy, anything, everything else works better. Your relationship is not going to be great no matter what tools you have. If you're tired, because you're going to go, love you, love you, you know, there's no passion, there's no aliveness, right? You're not going to grow your business when you're tired. So a huge part of what I teach, even in Unleash the Power within upw, by the way, for people, not vendors, called Unleash the Power Within. It's a weekend and on the fourth day, it's all energy. It's all about the things you do with your health and vitality. So you sustain that because without that, nothing else really matters.