FSD UnSupervised in AI3 vs AI4 Cars?

Well, welcome back to Behind the Wheel. My name is Rob Greenlee. Thanks for watching my video today. I'm out with my Tesla Model 3 2022 with AI 3 hardware. It'd be great to move up to hardware 4, and that's part of what I want to talk to you about today. So I'm out driving, um, trying to go on a shopping trip here. And I just got the, uh, the software update, the, the version, uh, was it 2025.14.3? And, um, that is, I guess, the latest update for an AI 3 vehicle. Uh, I have yet to see any kind of, uh, FSD update beyond the 12.6.4 that I currently am running in the car today. But, uh, I would, I'm hopeful that there may be a solution on the horizon as these AI models get more, I guess a good way to call it is more efficient. So I'm gonna turn on my Full Self-Driving now. Um, but I wanted to talk to you about a couple things that I've been thinking about. I know that it's only a few weeks away from the Robotaxi event going on down in Austin and the rollout of unsupervised Full Self-Driving. And I think that is coming and it's coming pretty fast. So I'm excited about it. And but I also wanted to say that I am going into the Tesla Service Center next week and I'm going to do a test drive of one of the new Model 3, uh, 2025 vehicles. And I guess the big thing that is on my mind, and I did ask the, the person that I talked to from Tesla that was inquiring about me actually getting a Cybertruck, which I'm on a waiting list to get, um, but I chose not to go that path. I think, uh, the path of just maybe getting a new Model 3 is something that I was considering. So next Next week I'm going to go in and actually test drive the new Model 3 with Hardware 4 and all of the upgrades that that vehicle has and just see what the options are on around a trade-in and trying to see what the financial aspects of doing an upgrade in the vehicle. I had thought about getting a Model Y and I still might, but I think that the Model 3 may be the best value. Of all of those options. And I don't really want to spend $100,000 on a Cybertruck right now. So I think trying to keep the cost down and still be able to live in the future of sorts with Full Self-Driving would be terrific. To be able to have a vehicle that could be totally unsupervised is what I would like in my life and what I think many people would probably like in their life. I mean, I enjoy the version that I have now, the 12.6.4, but do feel like, you know, it's not really at the cutting edge anymore. And I think for Tesla, that may be kind of a big issue for them going forward with a lot of their early adopters and loyal fans that bought their older models, right, that have been involved in Tesla for a while. And I, you know, I have kind of mixed feelings about this. I also know how technology works, and I think I've alluded to this in past videos, that, that there is this concept that, you know, it's the same thing with an iPad or your iPhone. Eventually you just have to move to better technology. So, so I think, um, I'm, I'm gonna go to Costco here. So let me— that seems like the thing that I always do on Sundays or Saturdays, and it's most convenient for me to actually do, do my videos when I do that. So if you've seen a pattern of my videos being involved in going to Costco, then, then that's, that's a big thing. So that's where I do most of my shopping. But, but to get back to what I was talking about as far as what's happening with this vehicle for me, and I just wanted to give you an update, you know, it's been hard to come up with reasons to give you an update here on this show because there just isn't any really significant movement in the technology of this car from the standpoint of the software updates on the full self-driving, which I think is the most remarkable aspects. Now, certainly there's, there's the aspects of, of just regular updates to the vehicle's vehicle. And this software patch that I got here just most recently had, you know, some updates to other areas of the, of the software stack as well, offering other capabilities and upgrades and bug fixes and all sorts of stuff, which is normal. And I think also really, really important. But in the bigger picture of things, as we move into this new era of unsupervised driving, I kind of want to live at that, that edge and experience that and really understand it. Because I think it does have profound impact on what the future of our society looks like and the future of this integration that we're seeing with AI, robotics, and automation and how that's gonna impact our lives. And I think all of us, you know, have this conundrum that we're in. Do we support AI integration into our lives or do we push back against it? Do we hold on to kind of all the human elements of life, or do we turn over elements of life to artificial intelligence? And I'm increasingly thinking that, you know, we just have to accept the fact that this technology is here, it's coming, it's getting better, it's evolving, it's gonna take a larger chunk of our human life and how we see ourselves interacting in our world going forward. And, you know, I think we all have to make this big judgment. Do we integrate it? Do we accept it? Do we find some way to have, you know, a carve-out for human aspects and a carve-out for how humans interface and take advantage of this intelligence that we're going to be able to tap into to hopefully improve our lives and make them better, make them more efficient, make our lives maybe a little bit easier. And but yet at the same time, I think humans have to be disciplined to hold on to the elements of being human and still foster that and only use these AI tools as a, as an assistant, as an augmentation to some degree of things that are drudgery in our lives. Like, I'm not saying that driving is drudgery. I just, I kind of look at it from this perspective that it actually adds to. It's not, it doesn't necessarily take away. I enjoy it driving because I also don't like the fact that occasionally as a human driver, I will make mistakes. And I have had a history of getting into accidents. And I have had a history of missing exits and missing turnoffs on freeways, especially when I drive into New York. It's such a confusing madhouse. And if technology can integrate with the maps and have vision and map all this stuff together, what I've found, even with this kind of less than, um, supervised FSD, that I don't miss exits. Now it has in the past with earlier versions of FSD missed exits probably as frequently as I have as a human driver, cuz my, my vision is limited. And oftentimes it depends on how the streets were architected and how the signage was erected. Oftentimes the engineers of the roads and stuff will architect the, the roads to tell us what to do right at the exit. Exit, not before the exit. And you have to react very quickly unless you know the roads by heart. And you're always looking down at the screen to check where you are. And FSD does not like it when you do that. So it's, it's the same thing. I can have it on, on Autosteer, whatever, but it's not going to take the exits. It's not going to get off at the road. So you're always looking down at the screen, and that takes your eyes off the road. I want to have a safer system, and I think that's what the future looks like for this technology, is that all of us will hopefully eliminate the possibility of accidents almost entirely. And that's the hope that I have for it. It's not 100% a replacement for our ability to drive. Now, you may have the choice, like the, the RoboCab or the CyberCab, where you can buy a vehicle that doesn't even have pedals and a steering wheel. And I think that, that is an option that people are going to choose. And I think it's an opportunity also for older humans to be able to to stay mobile as you look to the future, especially if we can get the cost of these vehicles down lower. And to be able for older people, like people maybe in their 90s or whatever, that don't have good eyesight, to be able to continue to live mobile lives and to get out in the world and still participate. If these vehicles like this CyberCab capabilities with the big swing door on it that makes it really easy for people to get in and out of their vehicle. And all they have to do is get in the vehicle and tell the vehicle where they want to go, and it will take them there. They don't have to worry about how good of a driver they are, what their vision is, or what their reaction times are. Everybody can stay mobile into their late stages of life. Because what oftentimes happens to people in their 90s, or if they get up close to 100, is that they're basically locked down. They can't go anywhere. They maybe have a hard time walking. They maybe have a hard time with their vision, with their hearing, with their reaction times. And this is a way for people to maintain mobility as we look to the future. You know, technology solves problems, but it also creates problems. So these are all things that we have to balance and weigh. But, you know, for me, it's really about just seeing what the future looks like and seeing how technology can be a help, not a hurt. Now, obviously, some usage of this technology, of this AI and robotics and stuff, is going to be used for evil purposes, and that is is certainly the history of humans. We've used technology as weapons against each other, and that's going to happen as well. You know, I have to say that's unfortunate. I don't like the fact that anybody goes to war and has to fight each other and kill other humans. The other thing that's gonna happen as we move into this robotics era is that wars are gonna be increasingly fought by robots. They're not gonna be fought by humans. So however you want to take that, is that better? Is that worse? Does that create less violence in the human society? Yes. But wars are wars. And why do we have to fight them with anything? Is it just because we can't get along? Is it just because the world is insane? I think yes, and there's very powerful, power-hungry people that want to control things, but that's kind of a separate topic. But anyway, I just wanted to get in here and tell you what I was thinking at this point with what's happening with Tesla. It looks like that the Tesla business is being challenged in, in Europe right now around this whole perception around Elon, and, and it's really kind of a fallout from all this negative attention that Elon's gotten in Europe. And it's really, I think, not a long-term problem, but it's something that's there right now. It's kind of turning around here in the US. Sure, there's a lot of negative attention that was around Tesla up to this point, but I think the stock is starting to come back. This Robotaxi announcement is going to bring a different level of attention to Tesla. That is going to change the conversation. So I'm hopeful and looking forward to what's, what's coming here in June. And I'm also increasingly seeing more optimism around the Optimus robot and what that means for our society and our culture too. As Elon says, he's going to be building anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 robots by the end of the year. That he's going to allow Tesla employees to test drive or test use or whatever you want to call it. And we shall see how that, that develops. But that's going to be probably one of the biggest revolutions in our culture and our society, is to have humanoid robots engaged in all parts of our lives. And I think that day is coming. You know, it may be a few years off, off, but I, I think it is coming and it's going to be a very interesting time. And all of us that are watching this right now are likely going to see that come to fruition. There's talk about a billion robots in the world by, I think, 2050 was the date that I saw. So I'm almost to Costco, so let me just wrap it up and just say thank you for watching my channel. I appreciate it., and, um, have a wonderful next week. And thank you for, for watching my channel. Please, uh, follow and subscribe to, um, @RobGreenlee on YouTube. And I appreciate you being here. Thank you. And if you wanted to reach out to me directly, I have an email address, rob.greenlee@gmail.com. Sorry, I gave you the wrong email address. It's rob.greenlee@gmail.com. I'd love to hear from you. And let me know your thoughts in the comments below as well. So, thank you for being here with me. I appreciate it. Okay. Bye-bye.