In this segment of his podcast, Rob Greenlee explains that content creators should own the relationship with their audience to control monetization, rather than relying on platforms like Spotify, YouTube, or Apple that own that relationship. He notes that while premium subscriptions on these platforms remove most ads, baked‑in host reads remain and cannot be stripped dynamically, creating a middle ground that still limits brand‑deal opportunities. Greenlee highlights the tension creators face: deeper reliance on platform‑provided monetization tools versus the scarcity of brands willing to sponsor shows directly. He answers a listener comment from Pete Georgie George, wishing him well and projecting 2025 (and possibly 2020) as a pivotal year when many of these monetization challenges will be clarified and the industry will confront the realities of content publishing and revenue models.
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own that relationship with your audience and puts you in charge of your monetization capability with your audience versus putting your content out over at Spotify and YouTube or whatever and expecting Google and Spotify to do all that for you because they own the relationship with the audience. Now, granted, they're getting paid a subscription to have an advertising-free version of your show. So if a subscriber to Spotify or YouTube pays $13 a month, whatever, they get access to, let's say, Spotify Premium or YouTube Premium that basically strips out all the ads except for— what's the answer to this? It's except for baked-in host reads, right? Or baked-in advertising mentions. Those can't be dynamically stripped out. And that is the, the middle ground here that we can all rally around. But there, there isn't a lot of buyers or brands that are willing to necessarily do that kind of a deal with the show. And that's the challenge. And so it's forcing content creators to get in these deeper relationships with these platforms, like a Spotify and a YouTube that can help you do that, even Apple with their premium content. So you have this tension that's going on right now around all of these platforms. And so let me go into another question here. I see we have one from Pete Georgie George who said, hi Rob from Australia, all the best to you and your family in 2025. Well, Thank you so much, Pete. I appreciate the comment there on all that. And I appreciate you being here. And certainly if you have a question or a comment about all of this and your experiences with these platforms and what is happening here over the next year, I think 2020 will be a big year for content creators. I think it, whether or not it's a big year financially or a big year, it's going to be a big year in, in, I I think a lot of this stuff getting sorted out and straightened out, but I think it's also going to be a big year around all of us facing the realities of what's happening in the content creation, content publishing, and monetization world here.