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In this interview segment, Speaker A asks whether the success of Speaker B’s startup would have been possible without the initial bootstrapping phase. Speaker B explains that while there are many routes to achieving product‑market fit and moving from zero to one, bootstrapping was essential for their particular venture. They recount moving to San Francisco in 2017, observing peers who raised multi‑million‑dollar rounds but eventually abandoned their projects, and argue that limited financial resources forced them to stay disciplined and focus on real customer needs. The conversation underscores bootstrapping as both a survival strategy and a catalyst for uncovering market demand, while also noting that this path isn’t universal for all founders.

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