GameChangers: Disrupting The Status Quo

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All right, we are live. Hello, everybody. My name is Scott Abraham. I am the CEO and co founder of the AI Training Academy where we train virtual assistants, marketing managers and even CEOs to be AI marketing ninjas with a potent combination of tools, technologies, training and live coaching. If you'd like more information on that, we'll make that available. Today we are really excited to be talking to Martin, Martin Gogan. He's a very successful tech entrepreneur with an impressive background in tech and AI industry. We're both members of entrepreneur organization, so I'm really excited to have him here. He's going to be introducing some technology today that is truly spectacular. That is really groundbreaking. It's going to blow you away. We're really excited. We're going to be getting an advanced look at some of this technology today. So if you're interested in AI technology that's truly groundbreaking, hang out for a few minutes and you're going to take a look at it. Martin is going to be speaking at a My e o my EO event on April 14th at 9. 00am Eastern Standard Time. It's called Build a New Business with AI. Kind of like we have a podcast here in the States and around the world. It's called How I Built this. So this event is going to be featuring four or five entrepreneurs that have built AI companies and people are going to get a chance to look at how they built it, what inspired them to build it.

You're going to be getting an advanced.

Look at it today. Martin has worked for major companies such as Yahoo and MySpace and founded Headway, a mobile advertising platform that he later sold, was acquired by a New York Stock exchange public company, EVC, in 2017, and he's now the CEO and founder of Almaya, an AI conversational video company that's dedicated to improving people's lives through technology. So with that introduction, I'm super excited to introduce Martin. Martin, thank you for being on our Game Changers, our first episode of Game Changers.

Yes, yes.

Thank you so much.

That was a great intro and I'm super excited to be here.

Excellent. So let's get right into it. Tell me a little bit about your background and what inspired you to start this AI business. And tell us a little bit about this business.

Sure. So it was probably during the pandemic back in 2020 that I had this idea, but it was actually an idea that was always in my mind ever since I was a kid. I used to record my parents and grandparents as a journalist even when I was 10. Years old, because I wanted to preserve some of their wisdom. I thought they are so important to me. And so I would just get my camcorder, you know, the old vhs, and just ask them questions just for the sake of safeguarding their knowledge. You know, grandma, tell me about your recipes, or dad, tell me about your jokes. I wanted to register everything. And then in the middle of the pandemic, I realized that, you know, the time had come for a platform, a technology that would actually make it easy for anyone to interview or safeguard everything their loved ones learned in their lives, whether it's family history, where does your last name comes from, the history of your mom, of your dad, or specific advice about certain topics. Right. Like today, if I want to ask my dad something, I just, you know, I call him, he'll reply, hey, Dad, I need an advice because I don't know, I had this fight with a friend and I don't know, I feel anxiety, so what should I do? And then he will give me an advice. But what I'm trying to do is kind of create like a library of different advices and snippets of wisdom and make it available for whoever you choose, probably your loved ones. So I was trying to find this technology, I didn't find it, and I said, damn, I'm going to use it, I'm going to do it myself and I'm going to share it with the world because I think the world needs this.

So it sounds like you was inspired initially to sort of preserve a historical record of loved ones.

Yes, exactly.

Okay, excellent. So for the people that are joining, you're about to get an advanced look at something truly incredible. So now bring it forward. You start experimenting. AI starts taking off. How do you start to take it from this vision of preserv, preserving historical records of family members to what it is today and what is it you're working on? What, what does it do for people and what does it mean? And then we're going to get into some use cases, we're going to show some examples.

So we launched the Almaya app, which is available on any store right now for free in January 2022. The idea of the app asks different questions, and the idea is that our users record selfie videos of themselves interacting, answering those questions. Questions can be things like, what is your name? What's your favorite food? Which book inspired you to things that are deeper, like, tell me something that happened to you in your teenage years that defined your personality. The idea is that I record videos and eventually I'm Creating a legacy. It's like building your own autobiography in the form of short videos. That app is live. It has thousands of users. But when ChatGPT launched in November last year, only five, six months ago, I said, okay, we should be able to make this much more automatic. I also seen other technologies out there, deep fakes and voice cloning. And we realized that some people, they want this, but they are too lazy. They don't want to spend time creating the videos. And some people want this, but they want it from dad or mom. And maybe dad and mom are gone, so they don't have the chance to record everything. But they have a photo of that, they have an audio of that. So with that, we can create a deep fake. We can create a representation, an emulation that looks and sounds like that, but they also have information about that. And if they don't, they can just write it down. With all that, we put it together in our technology and with the power of OpenAI, we can emulate a conversation with a person. And that's what we're trying to do. We are. I mean, who wouldn't want to be able to talk to their parents and grandparents even after they're gone? Who wouldn't want their kids when they grow up and they have questions about grandma or grandpa? Maybe grandma and grandpa are gone, to make an intro and say, okay, let's go and ask grandma yourself and see what she has to say about certain things. So those are the reasons why I built this and I'm looking forward to show it to you.

I love it. I love it. And we're going to segue there. I want to show this. I thought this was pretty cool. Kevin was talking about Headway, saved his life. Best app ever. And then finally, if you want to be the smartest man on earth, get the Headway app. So Kevin is a dyed in the wool fan of Headway. So with that, with that, let's transition. I think people are excited. Walk us through. So we've got an idea. Historical preservation photo. Give us, give us a look at the app and maybe a practical use. And we'll go into some use cases and we'll take questions, hopefully more from Kevin. Anybody else, can I show you how it works? Show us how it works.

Okay, so let me just present my screen. There we go.

I was trying to explain it to my kids last night. Can they saw me doing this. You want me to show. Add it to the stream here?

Yes. Let me know if you see my screen.

Yep, I got. It's added to the added to the.

Yeah. So basically, first I created a virtual version of Scott. I'm going to show how it works, but then I'm. I'm training it now. So I ask it the question and it says, who are your parents? Is this info correct? Your. Your mother's name is Marilynda and your father is Richard Dana. Is that correct?

That's correct.

Okay. Then we created a deep fake video of yourself saying exactly that info. So let's take a look at it.

My mother's name is Mary Linda Impingham. She goes by Linda. And my father's name is Richard Dana Empringham. He goes by Dana.

Okay. Is it you?

That's me. Is.

It's me.

Is that is the sound of my voice? For sure.

Did you record that? Is that a video yourself?

No, No, I didn't record that.

Okay, so let's ask yourself some questions. What would you like to know about yourself?

About me?

Yeah.

What are my favorite movies?

What are your favorite. Let's see. Okay. Okay. Once the. Once the text is generated, because again, it comes from info that we, you know, we preloaded here, we can generate either a video or an audio jacket.

Animal House of Braveheart.

So let's generate an audio. Okay, I'm gonna here and see what happens. Every time I generate an audio, you know, it uses one of the credits you have here on the top right of the screen.

So let's indeed. My favorite movies.

Let's see.

When it comes to movies, I'd have to say Rocky Rudy, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Animal House, Braveheart.

Can you say the same thing with your real voice?

The voice is spot on. When it comes to movies, I'd have to say Rocky Rudy, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Animal House, and Braveheart.

It's.

When it comes to movies, I'd have to say Rocky Rudy, Full Metal Jacket, Apocalypse Now, Animal House, Braveheart.

Holy.

Holy. Yes. This is amazing.

Sorry, I don't normally cuss on broadcast, but that. That is wild.

So let's show our users how this is done. Right. So this is actually, I'm going to start from scratch. Let's go to the emulation library and I'm going to create someone new. Oh, by the way, this is me, right? So you can ask me a question like, what's your mission in life? Actually, I'm going to ask the same question. What are your favorite movies? So let's see. What are my favorite. Wow. The Fountain by Darren Arnofsky. What else? I. Origins. Let's listen to my. To my voice and see if it's actually the accent is a little bit better in the emulation Godfather trilogy than my actual solid. But let's see. I'm trying to. I'm recording. And there it goes. First, I will say my favorite movies. Well, there are several. One that I love this called the Fountain. Now let's listen to the emulation. My favorite movies. Well, there are several. One that I loved is called the Fountain. The Fountain. The Darren Aronofsky and that Spectacular is a story of the same protagonists among that. Okay, in this one you might realize that the text is kind of weird and. And the reason is because the original info I uploaded is in Spanish, my mother language. Right. So I uploaded to Spanish, then I did it translation. And that can create. Again, that can create some inconsistencies in the middle. But if you just do it in your language, it works great. So let's create a new Scot and show our users how it's done. It really takes one minute. So all we need is three very specific data source. Let's put it in a. So it's going to be Scott3. So we upload a photo and we're going to use this one.

And Kevin, good question. When we get a little break, I'll ask. I'll ask.

Let's upload an audio. It's going to be. I mean this audio is just. And you just recorded 30 seconds of you just talking. So we can clone your voice. And then this is most important thing, right? Because right now this avatar can sound like you and look like you. But we wanted to say things you would have said. So how do we do that? We need to upload sources of information. In this case, we have an autobiography builder which takes 10 to 15 minutes to complete. But basically it's lots of questions about your life. So we just did is we. Basically, we're ready to train and generate emulation. So I'm going to press here. Generate emulation, you get a disclaimer. This is very important. Again, we need to tell our users you're not actually talking to Scott, you're talking to a virtual representation of Scott. Right. This is for entertainment. Do not use it to make important decisions, etc. So I'm going to continue. And there we go in Scott 3. So let's ask you a question. What were you doing between 2000 and 20?

Gosh, I gotta think about that.

Were you busy managing and expanding your business? Is it true?

Yeah, that's true.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, let's. Let's generate a video while we. Well, I mean, video takes like 2000. But the important thing is I'm not sure if you, if you provide me that info exactly. Right.

No, but it's, it's funny, I didn't provide that info between 2000 2010, but I think, I think what I did is I provided the information of when I graduated college and then around when I started a family. And so it's piecing it together.

Yes, exactly. And that's, I mean, we use OpenAI's API to do it. So let's listen to it from you.

Between 2000 and 2010, I was busy managing and expanding my businesses. It was a challenging yet rewarding time for me as I worked hard to achieve success and grow my ventures. I also focused on spending time with my family and making sure they were happy and well taken care of.

Yeah, I think because there's some questions about what's most important to me. And I talked about my family, you know, my wife, my kids, number one.

Okay, so that's emulate me. Happy to answer any questions.

Wow. Wow.

There's so many questions like, okay, so the process, I have to comprehend you on the process. It was like upload a picture, do a little recording. So it, it got my voice maybe 30 seconds. The voice is just spot on and then the text filling out a little bit of information in about 10 minutes. Here's my first question is where do you see this going? Like, the way I look at this, the technology is as bad as it's ever going to get right now, and it's just going to get better and better and better and better. So I think the key for me, as I look at this, I start imagining where it can go and what it can do. What do you imagine it could do and what are some of your users imagining it could do and already doing? What are some use cases?

There are many use cases. The one that really inspires me and the reason why I'm building this company is the family use case. Right. So if you've seen the Superman movies from the 80s, there is this famous scene, you know, when Superman is, is in the ice cave. Yeah. You know, and he connects with his ancestors from planet Krypton. So what I think would be very cool is right now I have a son who's 3 years old, and the other one is it's almost, almost born. Right. It's going to be born at any second. So whenever they grow up and they start asking questions about the family, you know, and I also have my Grandma, grandma is 87 now. I love her. She's so important to me. And we spend lots of time together. And hopefully, you know, when my kids are old enough and they want to know more about grandma, they can ask it, ask him, ask her themselves. But if that is not possible, I want them to put on their VR helmets, glasses, whatever it is that will exist in 15 years from now, and basically meet grandma and talk to her and ask her questions and listen to her. And I think that in the near the same way right now, we can, you know, look at black and white photographs, or there are family albums, or some people just write books with memoirs or biographies. I think we humans will be doing the same in ten years from now. But because the technology enables us to have an experience that is so close to reality, I can see people in the future owning digital versions of their loved ones. I can see that as a normal thing. Our kids and grandkids, they will all have digital representations of us, and they will have conversations with us, and we will be able to train those representations because we want them to say things we would have said in real life. So that's the future we are envisioning. Of course, this tech has so many different applications, from customer service to books. Imagine every book it now comes with an emulate me version containing their main characters. So you are reading Tolkien or you are reading Harry Potter and you can just ask some of the characters questions and they will reply. So again, there are many different applications from this technology. This, this creates a new medium as well, which is interactive conversations with avatars that look and sound like real people. I can't wait to see what happens.

Well, I, you know, I was thinking about Martin, my hero. I was thinking about something. My father passed away in November. And as you started to talk about having an avatar and a bio, I can imagine that living on in the virtual world. And I can't even imagine how raw it would be for me right now in my life to have a conversation with my dad.

Obviously, we're touching some boundaries here. Boundaries. And we want to leave it to each user what they want to do with that. Specific cases. Now, I think that after the grieving process, it's over. I think this can be very therapeutical and healing, not just for kids who lost their parents. Not kids, but people who lost their parents, but also for. For their families. Right. So, for example, I think it. I think it's much cooler to honor someone you really loved in their birthdays, for example, by just getting the family together and say, okay, let's talk to grandpa. Let's see what he has to say. Let's ask him questions. You know, it's a way of. It's paying homage to that person.

Yeah.

So, I mean, one of. One of the things we're hoping is that most people. I mean, some people will use it for themselves, but most people will try to emulate someone they really care about who is not here with us anymore.

So I'd like to try something. There's some new people that are watching. Could we go back to the emulation of me for a moment? And I would imagine my kids asking this question. And I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm curious because I did fill in some of my values and some of my beliefs.

Okay.

Would it be possible to imagine it was my kids asking, dad, and I'm gone. I've left the earth. And saying, dad, do you have a philosophy of life that you could share or could you share your philosophy of life? I'm really curious what it says and if it's close to mine. Oh, forgive me. I'll share the screen here. So I'm sort of imagining this would be my kids saying, hey, dad, you know.

We rephrase the question that could you share your philosophy of life?

Or I guess just, can you share your philosophy of life? And it's coming from my kids.

Okay, can you see my screen?

Yeah, here, let me move that. Okay.

Okay, I've just. I just pressed on send. I typed the question. Okay, so I'm creating a video and you. The first thing you get always is the text answer, right? Yeah, every time. Every time. It creates one. It consumes one credit for text.

Wow.

Let's see if. I mean, did you record this? Is it.

No, I did. I said bits of bits of this. It strung it together. So it strung it together because I said, you know, always have a. I think there was something about what? Like, do you have a catchphrase or something that said, I. I.

Let's listen it from you directly.

Sure. My philosophy of life is to always strive towards being the best version of oneself. To set daily aims and work towards achieving them with hard work, honesty and bravery. I believe in having a strong spiritual foundation, conservative values, and to never give up in the pursuit of happiness. It's important to have a positive image of your life, your family and your future, and to work on bringing that to fruition every single day. Ultimately, the most important thing in life is to cherish your loved ones, protect them, and to never take them for granted.

Wow.

How did it Feel, yeah, it pieced.

Together some of the things that I answered in different areas and put it together nicely.

I guess the emulation will be as good as the data behind it. The more you write down, the more you create, the better the emulation will be.

I absolutely love this. For those of you who are on the stream, please, I'd love to hear your questions. If you have a question for Martin, he's created an AI software that allows you to upload an image of yourself, upload some audio, upload some basic text about you, and then it creates an emulation. And as a way, one of the inspirations behind this was to create a historical documentation of people, of loved ones who may be passed. And there'll be other use cases as well. So I invite you to ask any questions about, you know, we've got it for another 10, 10, 15 minutes.

What is.

Martin, do you. Is there any concerns you have about this, either a, on the negative being used in a negative way, or is there any aspirational ways that you haven't already discussed that you could imagine, you know, a year from now, five years from now? And it's crazy how fast things are changing into space. You know, where do you see this going on, the negative and. Or the positive that you're gonna have to set some guardrails up for?

Let's start with the negative. When we were creating the terms and conditions and the privacy policy, we had to think of all the wrong use cases, you know, for this technology. And obviously, you know, we are trying to avoid that and to detect those and. But every time a user signs up for our service, for example, they cannot use it for any malicious activity, for cheating, for fraud, because even your voice, it really sounds like you.

It sounds spot on.

That's a big concern for us, and that's why we have lots of warnings of what you can use this tech for and what you can. Then there's the psychological aspect, right? We want our users to understand that they're not. I mean, even if your kids are using this, this is not dad. This is something dad created that looks like you, sounds like you, and may say things you would have said, you know, with a. With a high level of accuracy. But that is not that it's something that created. It's the same thing as reading a book written by yourself. It's not. I mean, you're. It's not yourself, Right? It's a book written by yourself.

Right?

So I think, I think this type of technological advancements always, always push the limits of and the boundaries of what's real and what's not, what's ethical and what is not. For some people, talking to their loved ones who are gone can be therapeutical. For some others it can be very painful. So we'll again, we'll leave it up to the users to decide what is good and what is not. We are already working with, for example, we're working with people with early stage dementia.

Wow.

Yes. Because as soon as they are diagnosed, you know, we obviously we can't cure that yet, but at least we can provide a tool so they create a backup of their minds. Right. As soon as the doctor tells you, look, you have Alzheimer's early, it's very early. Okay. We want those people to be able to start recording right away who they are, what they learn, who they loved, what they do in life for themselves. So they also, it's good for training, for memory training, but also to leave it, you know, to their loved ones. So that's another one of our use cases. We already partnered with several organizations. One of them is vti. They train trainers so they, they train caregivers and caretakers for, for people with mental health disorders. So again, I think this technology used well is, can be amazing from a therapeutic standpoint. I'm actually after this, I'm having a meeting with some therapists that they're trying to understand how to use it in their own therapy, in their own practice, depending on every use case. And we have therapists in the team because again our approach is very respectful. Right. We, we want to ask the experts of how should we handle this? What should we do with, with this use case as well?

I think it's incredible as you know, while you were talking I was just sort of imagining that it's almost like a, a modern day version of a diary. But next level, it's like imagine instead of going back and going through some of my father's old books, some of his diary or some of his materials to actually go and have a interactive conversation with them. It is just next level. It is next level.

This is another emulation we created. I mean it's just a different photograph but the rest is the same.

Oh. So Steve said had a meeting with someone from an Alzheimer's non profit here in Orange county this morning. He'd be interested in introducing Scott could put us in touch. Afterwards, I'll introduce you to Steve. Steve is, yeah, Steve is a good friend and co founder of the AI Training Academy.

That's amazing. Let me say one final thing. We have this technology is calling me late me. And then the Almaya app, they both work together. Because the Amaya app, the idea for the app is that. Let me show you really quick, is that people replies to the right questions because the emulation is only as good as the data behind it, right? So we want people to spend a considerable amount of time replying to some questions. So let me show you here in English, the app, it's available in English and in Spanish how it works. So basically the app, similar to Tinder, it asks questions, lots of questions, different questions. Whenever our users are ready, they just press on the button and start recording themselves. We made it. The users can fill the chapters of their lives. So they start as beginners. Sorry. So they answer very simple questions, right? Like what did I like to do as a child? You know, simple stuff. As they advance, you know, things get more. Gets deeper. So for example, you know things about spirituality. Why did I do I believe in God? What has got to me? So everything they record, it gets added to the legacy and then you can have a conversation with them. Just press there and start having a conversation. We're urging our users to. I mean, the ideal scenario is if you're alive, we don't need the emulation from you now. I mean, you can just do it with your own voice and face and everything. Although it's cool, but you're alive, just use the. On my app still, if you want to create an emulation of yourself or someone who cannot make it, use the Emulate Me product. Eventually we will just bundle them together.

You know, it's interesting. So Steve and, and both Stephen, sorry Kevin are asking interesting questions. So I'm watching the thread and there's questions about what's truth, you know, what is, what is the truth. And then, and then Steve makes the point. My own perception of, of the life I've lived has changed as I get older. And I imagine Steve, what you're referring to is perhaps your beliefs or perceptions about your life and the outside world have changed it modified as you've taken a new information and had new experiences. And so. But he's updating their information that would be available. I'm wondering to what degree can you then start to plug into information that's out there. For example, the stuff I've posted on Instagram, Facebook, other information or other blogs. To what extent can you grab that information and begin to modify what I've input?

So right now, I mean the main blocker that we have is the ability of any LLM such as ChatGPT to basically get everything you have been posting for the last 15 years and try to make sense out of it and hopefully there's enough info to come up with answers. But what people posts on social media, sometimes, sometimes it's not enough to build a real emulation of who you are. So I guess while, I mean as AI gets better, ChatGPT gets better and Llama gets better, we'll see better emulations. I like what Steve was saying, right? His own perception of life is changing. Yes, that's the idea, right? We, we grow and we evolve and we change. So one of my favorite questions is, is what, what was your political belief when you were a teenager? And I bet most of the people had experienced some changes in the world, right? So that's one of my favorite questions because most, most people they say B and then it's C when they grow up. So I think it's again, do. Doing the process, I mean just answering the questions is therapeutical because it will make you think about yourself. I mean while you are creating the legacy, while you are creating something important, right, the biography of your life, you also get the chance to reflect on your memories, your beliefs, etc. Right now what we can in emulate me, what we can accept is TXT documents. So anything in the form of text, ideally a biography, we still have some issues. It's not ours actually. It's OpenAI understanding that when something is written in third person instead of first person, but again, that will, I mean this is also new. I'm sure all these things will fix within the next six months.

Yeah, as I can imagine, if I'd written a biography, if I had written like I'm in the process of writing a book, I could take that book at some point and upload that and that would be drawn upon as some expertise or some life lessons. I would imagine that could complement whatever I'm uploading in the text document to at some point.

Actually if, if you are the author, you can give your book readers an access to your own URL, like emulate me slash Scott's book and then they will be able to ask any questions and you will reply with your face and your voice, just whatever the book will reply. Like in which chapters do you talk about? I don't know how to be successful in business. Right, and you will just give the reply right away. I mean those are other use cases.

I love that. Really interesting, really interesting. As we wrap up, I would invite anybody to ask any other questions. Steve and, and Kevin, you guys are asking Great questions. As you look forward. Oops, hang on a second. As you look forward. Martin, what is the next. What is the next step people should take? How should people get in contact with you? And I've posted some information in the, in the chat. If you there anything you'd like to leave people with as a, as a, as a final thought as we start to wrap up about this technology or about where you're going with the technology.

Sure. So you can sign up now to use Emulate me, it's www.almayalife.com. emulate me.

Is it okay to post that link in the chat, please?

Yes.

Should I www. Yeah, you can post it or agribus. A M A L Almaya.

Oh my. A L A M A Y A Almaya. Life dot com. Emulate me.

Okay, I'm going to spell it back to you.

A L. Can I post it?

M A Y A life dot com. Emulate me.

Yeah, just put it there. Almaya. All right, great. Almay.com. that's perfect. Yes, thank you. Perfect. Thank you. So you can sign up now. There's a wait list, but we're opening it gradually. So Scott is going to be himself. He's going to be one of our early adopters, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I can't wait to show my kids. No, I think it's going to be really interesting. Tonight when they get home from school, I pick them up from school. You gave me an idea of now I could actually sit him down, say, ask Dad a question. Ask dad his philosophy of life, his favorite movie, his favorite books, whatever.

Great. So we're giving some free credits to our first users and then if you invite people, you get more credits and eventually you can pay for it. But the idea, I mean, we're trying to create a viral loop here, right? So users attracting other users so we can grow organically.

Wonderful. I would invite everybody watching to do this while it's still available. Go to my life.com, emulate me and get a trial, get on board, try it, Upload an image of yourself, play around with it. It's a really interesting experience. And Martin, I can tell you from having done this last night, it is a therapeutic process to answer those questions. I didn't really think about it beforehand when you sent me those questions. I started answering. It really got me thinking. It took me down memory lane. I started thinking about my best friend growing up, Jason Perel, and all the, you know, what was your best, you know, sort of memory growing up. And it really walked me through a history of My life, A brief history of my life. But it was really, really fantastic. It was interesting experience. So I'm so excited to have met you. I'm also excited to see more of this on the 14th at 9. 00am Eastern Standard Time at the my EO event. And what chapter are you in in the in eo?

I'm in the Argentina chapter.

Argentina chapter. And I'm super excited to see where this goes. Steve mentioned and I think this is appropriate to end on now. Combine that with a robot and it's just going into a whole, whole other new space. New space.

Yes. And Kevin is asking about a Facebook page. Yeah, just. Yes, you can go to amayalive.com and there you will find our Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, everything. And please sign up and we'll be granting you access very, very soon so you can create your own smart avatars. That's the idea.

Oh, excellent. You know what? And I'm going to do this. I'm going to see if I can do this here. Www my life.commu late me. Yes.

Oh myalife.com and you'll find our, our social networks, everything there. If you want to write me, it's Martine Martin L mayalife.com okay.

Awesome.

Awesome. Fantastic. Well, thank you so much. I really, really appreciate you you being with us today. Really excited to get to know you better and I hope to see you in Argentina in the not too distant future. But thank you so much for being on.

You're amazing, Scott, and this was great. Thank you so much to Kevin, Steve and everybody replying and being active in the questions. Thank you so much.

Awesome, Fantastic.