34 - EP34 w/ Tej Dosa: The Path to Self Actualisation, True Success in Life, Unlimit your Potential + Forging Your Path

So how you doing, brother?

Doing quite, quite amazing, bro. Life, life is fucking good over here. How are things with you?

Life could not be better. Every day I wake up blessed with another day. I can breathe, so anything past that I feel is a win, right?

Right, exactly, exactly. Especially now, I think like the times that we're in, just the perspective that we've all gained just to— for the simple things, you know.

Well, the simple things, uh, all that there are in life, I think I've come to realize it's like, I personally, if you can make the, you know, the things you do every day really good and really enjoyable and really appreciate those, then that makes up the majority of your life, right?

Right.

Yeah.

It's so crazy to me, like even to myself, like how we're constantly like obsessing over this ideal dream that we sometimes forget that it's our days that once connected together that ultimately creates the movie of our life.

100%. It's all presence, man. I'm sure you know this more than anyone. I think what's— what always— I've been following you for a long time. I think you're one of the first people I followed on Twitter, um, and you know how, you know, there's a lot of stuff on Twitter that we see and read, but when you see someone that really gets it, you just know. And I felt that way about you.

Appreciate that, bro. Likewise. Like, one thing I really respect about you and what you're doing is I think what you're pioneering is like the new version of man. And what I mean by that is like I put out a tweet yesterday. It's like once you take spirituality out of society, you turn human beings into humanoids. People that look like humans, talk like humans, act like humans, but are missing the real human spirit. Right. And one thing I really admire about you is like You got everything like the young man aspires to gain, but you're also embodied and connected to that source energy.

Thanks, man. I mean, I'm trying. I don't know how, you know, how massively in tune I am relatively, but I do get what you mean about the humanoid thing. Like, it seems but there's been so much, uh, again, programming, uh, to make robots is effectively what it feels like at the moment.

Exactly, bro. And it's like nuts. Like, you know, you would always hear stories about like how so-and-so could happen, and now just watching it happen in real time, it's like, oh shit, we're in it.

Yeah, well, that's, that's, that's one of the You know, the things that they do with the power of suggestion, media, all the rest of it, is they, they tell you what could happen in order to plant the idea in people's minds. And then when it does happen, created by them, everyone's like, oh yeah, well, this is what they said would happen. And so they don't challenge it, but they don't realize that they put it there in the first place.

Yeah, bro, like, I was listening to your podcast with, uh, Lobo, like, both of them, like, such great episodes. And like, I loved his take on it. It's like like, yo, just opt out of the game. Just stop playing the game. Even now, like, the stuff they're pushing with like all these insects and grasshoppers and all this stuff, like, they already started priming people for like what they're going to be eating.

Oh yeah, man. Do you think it's this, this coming winter that's when they're going to pull the trigger?

I have no idea, bro. I, I just feel like that, that lowball approach is the way to go. It's like we just continue to just like let these people whatever the fuck they please. Like, we just keep playing their games, right? And even there's like certain people that are like, hey, like XYZ is coming, XYZ is coming. But it's like they just keep adding to that energy, you know? It's like there has to come a time, like Bobo said, yo, fuck it, we're not gonna play, we're not gonna fall victim to this reality, we're gonna create our own shit. And that's why I find what he's up to so inspiring, because he's like one of the few that is actually doing something about it.

Yeah, yeah. And I obviously, I'm guilty of this myself, um, at my current stage in, um, what's, you know, let's say my business development or whatever. But there is, uh, like, if everyone thinks that this shit is going to happen, then what are you doing about it? You know, like, I'm still reliant on the supply chains, I'm still reliant on, uh, living in the city. And, you know, if And that's all this, you know, my plan for the coming years. But, uh, if you really think that this shit's gonna go down, then you really need to put your money where your mouth is, or at least be taking steps to get there, which is ideally what I'm going to be doing, you know, in the foreseeable future. But that's why I think, um, Money Twitter, or, you know, Twitter in general, where people are making their own businesses, sharing how they're doing it, networking, like, it's going to be so crucial to become financially independent. And I think it's one of the main reasons, one of the main paths to spiritual, uh, development, uh, in today's world. You're not relying on anyone else, and you can take steps to not play the game, because unfortunately you need to play the game in order to get out of the game, right?

Right. Yeah, I feel like there's like two types of freedoms that like every, every person should aspired towards. It's like the financial freedom and also the spiritual freedom, right? I think the spiritual freedom is so underrated because like if you can really deepen your realizations about like who you actually are and not what you've been told and all this conditioning and programming, then you really like start to experience yourself as that true self that can't really be impacted by anything that really happens in this movie of life, right? And it gets like this sense of detachment. So even like with all the bullshit that's going on, like sometimes I just look at it, I'm just like, yo, this is a fucking comedy, it's a fucking joke. Yeah, what's up, you know?

Yeah, it's that, uh, it's the complete detachment. And I think this is something you realize, um, relatively long down the line of like doing your internal work and just understanding the— how the human mind works and the ego and all the rest of it. It's like any interpretation of events outside of yourself That's all a choice, and you can choose to get upset by it, choose to let it plague your mind, or choose to just let it go and, like you said, laugh at it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Have you, have you become that way through time? Like, I want to delve a little bit back into, you know, how you ended up getting started in this world and, uh, maybe a lot of life a bit in general before Twitter or whatever else. Yeah, yeah, man.

Like, like, for my story, like, in the beginning, bro, like, in the beginning of just like coming up, I would say like I was like the biggest pussy in the fucking world, right? Like, let's start there, right? And like, I was so conditioned, I was so programmed by like, let's say, like, like middle-class programming just society in general and all the stuff that comes along with life. Right. And around like 13, 14, around then I was like, yo, fuck, I can't keep living like this. This is like torture. Because inside I felt like I had so much to give, but externally I was like falling victim to other people's rules and the way they set up life. And I was like a pawn in other people's reality. Right. And I was like too much of a pussy to do anything about it. And I kind of reached my tipping point at like 13, 14, I was like, yo, like, the future is not looking pretty if I remain a pussy, you know? It's not looking too good. And at that time is like when I turned towards, um, self-help and like just consumed a bunch of material, a bunch of books, and they were impactful. Like, they really programmed my brain in a way that kind of got me in touch with just that lion dragon energy inside me, and I started like actualizing more of that. And then since the beginning, I never wanted to work for anybody in my life. That was something that was very dear to my heart, and I always wanted to live on my own terms. Right. So around then is also when I started diving deep into business, just hopping online with respect to this entire space and just figuring it out. Launched a bunch of businesses, most failed. And then I had a realization one night. I'm like, the reason I keep failing is because I suck at marketing, because I was too much of a pussy to learn sales. So I was like, oh, I gotta like actually own up to this and learn sales and learn marketing. And then I started going down that path, and then I started applying it to the businesses that I was working on at the time. Those started succeeding. Then naturally people in my network started reaching out, which eventually turned into an agency, which eventually turned into a bunch of other ventures. But after that is like when I don't know, bro. Like, I always had like this internal flame that just kept telling me there's more to life, there's more to you, there's more to who you are. Like, we're not what we've been told. Like, that's all bullshit. It's like really conditioning that's really designed to keep you down and out. And, um, I remember one time I was reading this book of Steve Jobs' biography, and he was talking about like how the only book he gave away at his funeral was the Autobiography of a Yogi, and it was the only book on his iPad that he would reread every single year. And I was like, what the fuck? What's the cleaner guy in tech doing with a book like this. And another thing that really intrigued me about Steve Jobs was this reality distortion field, how like people explained how he had like this power to bend reality too as well. And I was like, oh shit, maybe there's a connection between this and Autobiography of a Yogi. And that sent me down the spiritual path where I just like went down this rabbit hole and started applying the stuff that I was learning And I was like, holy shit. Most of the rules and conditioning and programming that I was told about how life is, how you're supposed to succeed, how you're supposed to live, all that self-help shit I went through. I was like, bro, this is fucking bullshit. It's useful in order to get you to a certain point, but eventually you got to burn those fucking boats. And after I started going down the spiritual path, I just had insane experiences where I was like, holy shit, literally. Bro, this is fucking crazy. We are so fucking powerful and we've been told nothing but bullshit. And it really saddens me, bro. Even on our corner of Twitter, we have such amazing people that are doing such amazing things, right? And one of the reasons, personally, in my real life, I don't even talk about spirituality. I don't even talk about this stuff. But on Twitter, I feel like I like to put that message out there because we have such an amazing cast of people that are really winning. But I think this juice the most important part to actually tap into because it's what makes everything possible and it allows you to play the game of life on such an epic scale.

Do you think that that innate connection to source has to be developed before you can make any financial wins and progress? Because I find that that's, you know, where have my ideas come from that have helped me develop this thing so far? It's not, it's not any, like, it's not coming from me. Yeah, it's coming through me from that universal source of knowledge, whatever you want to call it. And I think you have to get out of your own way almost. And that's why, you know, you can't be operating in the kind of 2D or, sorry, 3D levels of existence if you're so worked up in your ego, you're so worked up in trying to impress other people, uh, the image of what you believe you are instead of what you really are, you— I think you don't have that connection to the ideas and the energy that can then divulge into a business or whatever.

Exactly. I think the ego— ego's great. Like, some people like kill the ego. I don't agree with that, but I think the ego, it lives to mimic the real qualities of your true nature, right? So like, puts up a front and it like distorts what's actually real and true, and it gives you like a pussified version of that, right? So like, the more you do the ego, the less of your true power you actually experience. So like, for me, like, bro, with my business journey, like, for the first little while, it was entirely fucking ego, and I was just like a slave to this ego. And none of the businesses that I would, um, work on would fucking succeed. I would like make no money, waste a bunch of time and nothing would really work out for me. And then the more I started, like, letting go of my ideas and my assumptions and my preferences for how I wanted this to be, the more of that, like, I don't know, you can call it whatever you want, but like that, that source energy started coming through me. And the more I trusted that energy, the more I would start succeeding in business. Right. So it was like twofold. One, like realizing just how poor internally I truly am.

Right?

In the sense that, like, all my attachments, everything I fill myself up with, all my beliefs, all my conditioning and programming and thoughts are essentially bullshit that actually distort that flow of Source energy.

Yeah.

And that was one realization. And the second was just, like, having the balls to actually tap in and follow that flow of life. Because sometimes we get, like, struck with crazy insights, crazy inspiration, crazy ideas that just seem to come from nowhere, and we're, like, too much of a pussy to even, like, go along with it. So it's, like, twofold. One, 1, realize how this stuff is just happening through you, and 2, once you do get struck with that creative burst of energy or insight— and we all know what I'm talking about, we feel it, it just feels different— like, to actually have balls to pursue it.

Yeah, it's intuition, and it's the same thing with those random— people call them coincidences, but those feelings that you get that 'Oh, I should talk to this person, I should send a message here,' or just the random thoughts to reach out to someone you haven't talked to in a long time. That is all clues and paths you can take, and it's up to you to recognize them for what they are, not just random thoughts that are popping into your head for no reason. Uh, obviously some do, or a lot do, and a lot of thoughts can be discarded in that sense, but whenever you get a hunch, that true hunch that is like, hmm, why am I thinking this? Or why should I do this? Just trust it. And if you trust it, pursue it and follow through with it. There's always going to be gold on the other side.

Exactly. And I think it's such an epic way to live, right? Because it's like, the way I see it, it's like you can live two types of lives. The first life is like the life that conditioning creates for you. So like, who you are is essentially a version that's been molded by society. So you can continue to trust that person and let him or her create your life for you and just go along with all the ideas and plans and strategies that he comes up with. Or you can be like, fuck it, I don't know what the fuck's about to happen. I'm gonna embrace the sense of not knowing where my life is gonna go, how it's gonna unfold, and I'm just gonna remain grounded and present in whatever arises spontaneously. I'm gonna follow that. And then like, every time I do that, bro, I just experienced such amazing adventures and pure epicness that that conditioned character would never be able to achieve.

Yeah, well, people don't realize that, like, everything they— all the discomfort that they feel in their life is because they are— they're attached to this version of reality that they think should happen, or the idea of how someone's life should play out. And that was given to them as a young child, you know, you have to work hard, study hard, and go down this particular path or career. And the whole time you end up just living your life to prove to this construction that's never existed in any real sense. It's just an idea that you've been given that's stuck in your head, and you don't feel happy until you've got that. And so, as is inevitably the case, when life doesn't play out to the exact specifications in the exact path that you think is the best path for you, you experience dissonance and you're like, oh, this sucks. Like, but truly there is no one right way to do life. And even if you, you know, you, you have a vision for what you want, as long as it's your path, you can pursue that, but it's still not going to work out the way you want. So it's this skill of of having the capacity to work towards what you want in a grand sense, and then the details, how you get there, the path, you know, that's all up in the air. And it's a question of enjoying it no matter which way it goes. And otherwise, you're just going to spend your entire life in your head upset that it's not going the way you want. And then if people externalize the kind of this end date of happiness when when you get to a certain point, you realize that as long as you sit in the present moment and come to presence, then that is, you know, the most stress-free way to live really is being in that space. And I've come to realize this a bit more recently, that it's always possible to just come back to here and now and just whatever senses are coming to you whatever situation you're in, there's nothing else other than that.

Exactly. I'm curious, like, how has all this, this like way of life, like, has this, and if it has, like, in what ways has this impacted like the unfoldment of like the Sol Brah brand? Because like, from just an outsider, it seems like so organic and like so natural. But I'm just like curious if like this had anything to do with unfoldment of the brand?

I think it's, it's just been a, like I said, a natural kind of unflowing of how my mind has developed and sharing that. Um, you know, I feel like I've— I'm nowhere near, obviously, like where I could be in terms of, um, well, no idea where, like, I will eventually get to. Obviously, I'm not trying to say that I'm you know, really well developed in this area. But I know that at least probably after university study or during, like, I've never been an emotional person naturally, uh, emotional in the sense that I, you know, let things like really fuck up my, my balance, um, if it's something external. And, you know, Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is probably what I reference what set it all off. And that kind of obviously just laid out like, hmm, everything external to your mind you can't control, so why bother, why bother worrying about it? And that really stuck in my head and kind of got the ball rolling with all these other concepts. And from then on, it was just a matter of whenever I read something, I write a little bit down and share it. And whenever I had a thought that was, you know, helped me kind of navigate my mental headspace, I would share it as well. And that's, that's what happened with Sol Brah. And I think it's, it's, it's played out just like how I think the universe has the plan for me, you know, to share that information. And whenever I write something that has helped me or whatever, someone comes back to me and said, hey, I've never thought about it like that. And then That is the goal with, or at least the, uh, the short-term or the short-form writings that I do, the tweets and things. Um, but I'm just grateful that, you know, the universe has decided to give me this platform, and hopefully I can help a lot of people through it. And that's, um, just documenting that and, you know, seeing what the next stage is. And putting in the work every day is where I'm at with it, I think.

That's epic, bro. Yeah, it's remarkable what you built, and I'm super excited to see where you take things.

Appreciate it. Um, so you tweeted actually, uh, a while ago, um, or maybe, maybe do you mentioned it. I'm not over you tweeting about it, but he said, uh, top of the world or bottom of the ocean. Um, that's what you said, that's the phrase you said. And I really think, uh, that's resonated with me as well because what's the point of playing it safe, really? Like, playing it safe is such a It's almost the wrong word. It's like people don't realize the opportunity cost of not giving something your all. And the risk that people think— like, I feel like risk in itself is, is not real. Do you know what I mean? Like, even if, even if everything goes to shit, once you have that emotional detachment and obviously You know, even if you— I haven't been homeless, obviously, but I've been, you know, very close to not being able to pay my rent. And if you can detach from that emotionally, that things can fail, let's say, with risks that you take in business or life in general, then it really— there is no real risk other than the summation and the power that you give something. Does that make sense? You know what I'm trying to say?

For sure, for sure.

And so if, if that exists, or if that doesn't exist, I think your capacity for risk-taking and therefore winning at a very large level is so elevated because of that. So it's like another way that this spiritual detachment helps you out in business and life.

Exactly. And I feel like, um, like the way I try to navigate things I feel like we always have a tendency to label things as a good experience or a bad experience, right? But I feel like once we fall victim to that, then we fall victim to really playing it safe. And I feel like we don't really know what's good and what's bad. The way I see it, it's just fucking experiences. It's just life, right? And my goal and my objective is to— I want to maximize the fuck out of this life and I want to experience it fully. So I want to I want to experience the top of the world, and I also want to experience the bottom of the ocean because I feel like that's where all the growth is. This middle lifestyle is so boring, so passive. You're essentially just waiting to die. That's how it feels like to me. As a kid, I would take the train and I would just look at these people. I was kind of just like people watching, and I was like, holy shit, what is this? Think about life. Think about evolution. Think about all that. And what is this homie doing right now? Like, he's just like holding a briefcase in a suit and tie, probably someone, and he's just fucking miserable. You know that dead eyes, like that fluoride stare, bro? That's all I would see.

And I was like, oh.

And I think, look, at the end of our life, when we look back, let's say you do take a risk and it ends up being a total, total, total failure. Again, just a label. Who knows if it's a failure or success? But yeah, um, even if you— let's say you end up homeless, right? Never been homeless. So again, I'm just like, uh, fucking just talking. But, uh, even like at the end of your life, like, it would be an experience and you're like, holy shit, like, that added some type of richness to my life. It wasn't just this cookie cutter, everybody experiences the same life and they just live in this middle zone, which I find like, well, I own— I would honestly like rather die than experience like that cookie cutter lifestyle.

Dude, that's My only fear really is just being mediocre. Like, I'm not really honestly scared of anything else, um, other than knowing that if I was ever not to really go for something and just, you know, it was, it was like when I was working those, you know, average 9-to-5 office job, and I was grateful for that because it gave me, you know, the stability to do that and then work on Sol Brah stuff on the side. So, you know, I'm happy for that experience and grateful for that opportunity. But at the same time, it was soul-sucking just knowing that I was going in and doing these arbitrary menial tasks on spreadsheets and whatever else that— so much so that it was like, well, it was spiritually damaging, honestly. And living your whole life like that is just like— there's so many people in this kind of super inflated gig economy where there's like, there's not much real work being done in a lot of, in a lot of companies. There's maybe a few people who are really pushing the boundaries and, you know, let's say increasing the revenue. But even then, so many companies, they're not actually producing real stuff or helping people in any meaningful way, just moving money around or things like that. And if you're just going into an office to do that, I do think there are spiritual ramifications for not having some kind of central real production in the business sense. And I think that's a broader point to make is like when you are starting out in, you know, say you want to work for yourself a bit more, the main key tenet that I would say is produce, produce, produce, produce more than consuming. 90% to 10%, you know, like that is the shift that has to happen before you start making money, before you can kind of break out of whatever else you were doing before. Would you say that's fair?

I think you bring up a really, really important point. You know how you're talking about like in the, in the 9 to 5, how there's like spiritual ramifications, right? And you kind of feel like the essence of you like depleting with each passing day. I feel like that also applicable to entrepreneurship, at least in my case. And what I mean by that is like, I'm all for like making a fuck ton of money. Like, I got ridiculous intentions or goals or whatever with respect to money, right? But like, for me, if like what I'm working on isn't like directly channeling all this like powerful energy inside me and allowing me to express it at scale, and it's just a venture to just make money, just collect more people pieces of paper, add more digits to my bank account. I can't be bothered with that type of business. It's like, I don't know what happens. I've tried it and I just fucking crash because it's like, I feel like who you truly are is like a lion, right? But most of us act like a tiny fucking mosquito. We try to make mosquito money, work like the perfect mosquito. Yeah, exactly. And it's like our appetite is never full because we have the appetite of a lion, not a mosquito, right? Like money is just like pieces of paper. And I feel like if you spend your entire life just doing things that are just padding your wallet, you're gonna end up at the end of your life and be like, fuck, I made a bunch of fucking money, but did I actually, you know, channel that, that energy and use it to create your version of heaven on earth, or whatever that means to you?

Yeah, well, money itself is pathway to freedom, and it represents being able to pursue what you truly can do. And if you can marry the two, where you create money while also helping people or expressing whatever passion it is that, you know, you, you lay up thinking about at night, that's where the real magic happens, and that's where the most money comes. Like, I, I don't like the Again, one of these society limiting beliefs that say, oh, you can't make money with your passion. You know, there's always a way. There's always people making money and doing well in anything. You just have to find the right angle, find the right people, uh, and work at it possibly for years. Um, you know, it's— you're shooting yourself in the foot before you've even begun if you've gone in to study something that you don't really enjoy just because you think it's going to make you money. Money. And like, from there, man, like, as you— and I started this, I guess I studied finance earlier in my life just because, oh yeah, you know, finance is good to have, and it has helped me a little bit, uh, but— and the people I met and everything, I'm grateful for the whole process, and I wouldn't be here if I, if I didn't go through that. But I know so many people who are 17, 18, oh, you've got to pick a major for university might as well go to university because that's the best chance of getting a better job. And then they do finance or something similar where they're not really invested in— oh, do you want— I just love spreadsheets, man. Like, there's not— there aren't many people, uh, going through that. And that's not to shit on the whole thing as a whole, because I'm sure some people do love it and enjoy it. But I think for the most part, not many people do, and they get they get pushed away from actually studying what they want to, or not even studying and just trying something out and maybe learning and researching for a few years before you, you know, really go into the— what you're passionate about, because of that anxiety about not having enough money. Which, um, Robert Anton Wilson in his book Prometheus Rising says, they're like, they're tickets for biosecurity. That's what money represents, and that's why we have so much anxiety over not having and over losing it. And our whole society is programmed to be upset if we have, if we have a low amount of these biosecurity tickets, because to our subconscious, when that lowers, our chances of survival lower. And then everything is set up with this relationship. And of course you need money, uh, to survive. Well, you know, you can go into that. Do you really? If you commit to growing your own food and, you know, all the rest of it, I'm sure you could get away with having less money, but for the most part, you need a decent amount of money to maybe, you know, get a roof over your head and all the rest of it. Money is just a, a tool. And if you set your life up so that that is the main and only goal, I think everyone realizes that eventually you come to some point where that doesn't work for the human spirit and it doesn't play out at all well.

Exactly. I feel like money is— money's cool, money is amazing, but I just feel like we— we— this probably sounds a little fucked up, but I feel like we just give it too much respect. Like, we put it— put it on a pedestal too much, right? Like, even I have friends that are typical finance majors, really smart, smart dudes, and they're just like out here fucking whoring themselves out for fucking $80K a year. And they're like, bro, it's $80K. How much money is that?

Nothing.

I'm like, yo, this is crazy. Like, I remember when I was in business school, I used to think like $100K was like something crazy, like life-changing. And I made $100K and I felt broker at $100K than when I had like $0.

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's perspective. And one of the things that enables you to make more money is seeing, you know, a couple hundred K and being like, yeah, that's achievable. I can do that. I'm worth that. What I'm doing will easily attract that. These are these beliefs about money that seems like arrogant, I think. And I think, well, that's the initial reaction that people have, is like, how can you think like that? Like, you're so arrogant to think you could easily make that much money. Like, but then that is required in order to get there. And the people that are making that amount of money, they had to have— like, they didn't fall into that accident, like, whoops, now I'm making a lot of money. Like, that the belief comes first, and it seems counterintuitive and it doesn't seem to follow logically, but you're only going to run into opportunities or develop a business to that point if you can believe that you can achieve it.

Exactly. And it's, it's so funny, it's like even like with, with my situation, like my parents are like typical immigrants, right? And I understand, like, they came here with like 10 bucks in their Markets. So like their relationship with money is very, very different, and they had to go through some stuff that I can't imagine, right? But even like when I was on my like early, early come up, um, like I always had this thing where even when I had no money, I would never check the price for things, right? So I would go somewhere, like I wasn't buying like anything crazy, but just like random everyday stuff. I would just like whatever I want, I would just grab it and then just tap my debit card or whatever, right? and like my mom or like whatever, my dad or like my siblings or whatever would be like, hey, you get the receipt? Or like, how much was that? And I would be like, oh, I don't know. Even to this day, like, I never know, like, how much. Like, they could be jipping me off like every single day. I wouldn't even know. And like, I used to get so much flack for that. It's like, yo, you got to respect the value of a dollar, right? Like, what did you raise? You're just out here just tapping fucking debit card. My account would be in like overdraft. Like, I would get charges. I'd be like, oh, okay, whatever. It's not like obviously financial advice, but like, just that—

not financial advice.

Yeah, just that mentality I feel is like so freeing because you're like, wait a minute, like, I'm not a slave to this thing. I'm actually powerful and I'm going to build my life the way I want to build it on my terms. And money is going to be a part of it, but I'm going to make it on my terms and on my conditions. And you start like literally channeling that divine energy where you're like, holy shit. We don't have to keep playing by the rules. We can invent our own, our own way of life, how we envision it, and then start taking actions. And then once you start taking actions from that place, it's like, bro, nothing can stop you. You got like the whole universe on your side, and it's like, all right, let's go to war. And everything that just comes, comes at you, you just destroy with ease.

Yeah, no, I definitely feel that when you finally make the distinction between playing someone else's game and stopping visualizing what it is that you truly want. And you, you just fuck off all the rest, all the, the things that people say you should do, should invest in, should work towards, um, what is the best path for you, the most secure thing. Like, none of that is real. Like, going back to what you said at the start, we're given from birth these rules and everything that, like, it's hard to make money, it's hard to make a business, most businesses fail, all of that just becomes part of your subconscious. And you can, when you realize you can reprogram those beliefs, otherwise nothing will happen. And I didn't think that that's the same as, uh, you mentioned it before, we're born as these giants that can pursue anything. As kids, we have these huge dreams and it's all fantastical in a way, but the adults in the room, they said, oh, you're going to be serious. And, uh, you know, like, all of that makes us mentally and spiritually cramped. And I think it takes, um, what would you say it takes to finally get the ball rolling? Like, it's probably you can have one conversation, you can read one book that gets the ball rolling. Like, what do you think is the process for most people? Let's say they're stuck in that paradigm. Like, what, what would you recommend that they do or spend more time doing that would help to kind of progress that mindset change?

Yeah, I think the number one thing that just comes, comes to mind right now is I think the number one thing you gotta do is you gotta uncontaminate your energy. Right? And that sounds like fucking spiritual, like woo-hoo, and I don't really mean it in that sense. What— the way I mean it is like, so take a kid, right? Like you mentioned a kid. A kid is so joyful, so alive, so full of imagination and curiosity and power at like 5, right? And you would think that this is the human seed, that by the time that this kid is 30, he should have 100x all those qualities and he should be like literally a god amongst men. But obviously that doesn't happen. And you're like, why doesn't that happen? If you look at a seed in nature and you give it the right, the right, whatever the seed needs in order to grow, then actually turns into a beautiful tree or a beautiful plant or whatever you're planting. Right. And it's like, why doesn't that happen with humans? We start off with so much potential, but by the time we're 30 or 25 or 20, we're like a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of what we once were. Like, we didn't even It's not even like— not only did we not get better, we got worse. And it's like, why did that happen? And I feel like the why it happens is because we contaminate our energy, right? In the beginning, it's like our parents are conditioned and they pass off those conditioned beliefs, like you've been saying, onto us. And then we go through our life and we just continue to contaminate our energy. So by the time we get to 20, that— or 18, 19, and they're like, all right, figure out what you want to do with your life, You don't even know what the fuck, who you are. You don't even know what the fuck, what the fuck this is. And it's like, only thing you know is what you've been contaminated with. And I think it's so important to like just press the fucking eject button and be like, yo, like, just stop. Just stop this fucking bullshit. I need to figure out, I need to uncontaminate my own energy. I need to like really tap in into what I believe, what I think, who I am. And from that place I need to start making moves. So if somebody's like, let's say they're working a dead-end job or whatever, their energy, bro, is probably contaminated as fuck with their parents, just with what their girlfriend wants them to do, with what society expects them to do. And I feel like the greatest thing you can do is just drop out of society. Like, you can continue to play the games, continue to go with the motions, but mentally you've dropped out. I think that was honestly the biggest decision I ever made. And that was at like 16. I was like, yo, fuck it, I'm not going to play these games. And my parents just fucking shit-talking me, my siblings, my friends, whatever. They're like, yo, this guy's like a fucking loser. He's just playing on his computer all day. I was trying to write copy. They just think, especially not having good parents, you're just fucking playing around on the computer all day, all this stuff. It's like, cool, I'm just going to take that. I'm just going to take that. I'm just going to take that. I'm just going to take that. And the more you you just take that, you're like, hey, that's not that bad. It's not that bad. And the more you can actually decontaminate the energy, you know, cut the umbilical cord and become your own person. And from that position, you start making decisions based on what you truly want. And those are usually far, far, far different than what society expects. It's so funny, like most people want to make a bunch of money, but at the end of the day, they just want to live a very simple life. Like they just want to have like a bunch of land, a bunch of animals.

Yeah.

You know, like like maybe a couple girls or whatever, whatever, right? But it's like the reason they don't do that is because they care too much about what society thinks. So they have to waste their entire prime in order to get the status objects in order to do that so society doesn't look at them like a failure.

Yeah. And the funny thing is like people aren't really thinking of you as much as you think. And they'll have these passing off comments, your close friends and family go, oh, what are you doing? Um, but as long as you can stick to what it is that you want, you know that you have a plan to get there, you know that eventually things will pay off. It doesn't matter what people say because they will have a, a few minutes maybe they're talking to you, and maybe with parents they think about you a lot more because of their investment in you and they love you. And ultimately it all comes from them loving you for the most part. Like, they won't express it the right way, and they're just expressing their love for you through concern, and that comes across to us as being negative. But ultimately, if you can think about that as— okay, again, just disconnecting from the emotional ramifications and the ego of it— it's like, they're saying this because they want me to succeed, and their reality paradigm success is studying hard, getting a secure job, and working the way up business 9 to 5, because that's what they were programmed to believe. And it's the same thing, like, you— if that's what you were told, if that's your reality tunnel, then of course you're going to react the way when your son is just, to you, dicking around on the computer. Your concern is gonna be that way. And I had the same thing, like, when I was just fucking around on my computer through high school. I was reading fitness stuff, I was playing around with Photoshop. What I didn't realize at the time is I was building the skills necessary to eventually lead to what I'm doing now. But at the time, it was like, oh, what are you actually doing? And I didn't know. But all of the events that I've gone through and all of the stuff that didn't necessarily look productive to the outside, the people that couldn't see what was in the vision of my mind's eye. You just have to trust yourself and realize that all those quote-unquote negative things that people say to you all come from, hopefully, uh, most of the time, a place of love. And some of it doesn't, obviously. Like, people shit talk because they don't understand it, they're jealous. They actually, when they see you doing your own thing, And there's a beautiful quote, I think it's by Morgan— Morgan Freeman? No, Denzel Washington said, sometimes your spirit will irritate other people's demons, and so they'll attack you. And when you are not operating the paradigm that most people are, they see that lack in themselves, and that's what makes them lash out at you. Exactly.

I feel like the greatest reaction that you can develop is just like laughter, right? Like, even like when— like, two things. Like, when I was like going through this, like, even let's say my mom comes and she's like dropping some, like, you know, typical immigrant mentality, like, so-and-so just got a job for $80K per year, right? Real, real comment. Let's say she drops that, right? And like, I would never take it seriously in that moment. I would start laughing. And more importantly, I would be like, that's not my mom talking. That's Big Brother talking through my mom, right? And as I would start laughing, the craziest stuff would happen. My mom would start laughing too. And I was like, this is fucking hilarious. Like, the real version, that real mom where she's coming from a place of love, like you said, she's laughing with me because she understands, like, the facade and the bullshit of this way that she's recommending, but Big Brother is still talking through her. So I would just start laughing with literally anything they would tell me, right? And my default reaction since those days has always been laughter. Even right now, let's say I lose a bunch of money, I just start laughing.

I'm like, this is a joke.

Yeah, right. And I think that's really important, like, to kind of like— because sometimes I feel like people ruin their relationships with their parents or, you know, their loved ones because they take take them seriously. But if you think, if you just look at it objectively, it's like your mom or dad really loves you and they're just talking to you and they're telling you things that they think are the best as they've been conditioned to tell you and groom you. But if you separate that and you're like, oh, that's my mom, but this is big brother, and you just start laughing, you'll see that the parents really come around and they're like, okay, okay. My parents are like, yo, we can't tell this kid shit. He just starts laughing.

Yeah, that's a, that's a beautiful way to think about it. And yeah, I'll probably— we'll keep that in mind now, that Big Brother's acting through people. And again, it all comes back to, um, just emotional, uh, control in general. When someone comes to you with, let's say, a lower vibration emotion, you can have the base level reaction, which is to be angry back, to defend yourself, say, oh no, dude, actually, uh, I'm building business and like, fuck you, like blah blah blah. And then you're gonna have a fight or an argument. Or like you said, through the function of laughter or through just, just a loving awareness, is knowing that, okay, what are they attacking? Like, I'm not I am not the idea of an entrepreneur that they then attack, so therefore I have to get emotionally upset and defend it. You are this awareness that's existing in this, you know, bodily form that is just navigating this world, and you cannot let or you can develop the skill to where those emotions, they don't control you. They may pop up, of course they're going to pop up, but when you get to a certain point and you work at it, the default reaction becomes that of a disconnection. And you can transmute that through laughter, through love back. It's like, yeah, thanks, dude. Or, you know, maybe you make a joke at yourself, like, oh yeah, don't have a job, unemployed, whatever. Yeah, then people, they always soften, they always come back with something better because their ego as well almost gets disarmed when you can show that you are confident enough in yourself that that stuff doesn't affect you. And I think that's a very important skill to have, uh, in general with anyone. And online especially as well. Um, there is a distinction between that and also knowing when— if there is an environment or a particular group of people that are constantly doing that to you, you have to just disconnect and separate your energy. You don't want to let that, like you said, that energy contaminate you. Because it's all well and good to be disconnected and have the skill of of detaching, but sometimes, a lot of the time, you're just gonna have to completely eject from that environment that is threatening to bring you down all the time.

Yeah, 1000%. I feel like the, like, especially the world we live in, it's like you're born with such impeccable vibes that from that moment on, everybody's just trying to limit and dim your lights. They're trying to dim your vibes. But we ain't gonna fucking let the vibes die. So like, when they come at us and they hit us, it's like, you just gotta laugh. You just gotta come from that place of love, and you gotta, uh, you gotta get up, get away from those environments. Because if you think about it, that's really what it is, right? Like, why else do people become such a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of the version of themselves that they have the potential to be by the time they hit a certain age? It's because they'll let the vibes die. But you cannot let the vibes fucking die. The vibe should only increase with age, not, not become dimmed down and just pussified.

Exactly. If you're doing life right, it's a constant upwards trajectory. And if you're not doing that, you really gotta— like, the most toxic mindset you can have: high school glory days, it's all downhill from there.

Oh bro, don't get me started on this shit. Oh my God. Yeah, it's rough, man. That is rough.

Oh well.

Yeah, that is too rough. I have like a lot of people that are like in that mindset. It's just sad to see, man. It's like so heartbreaking to just watch people that are so talented that actually have like so much to give. And everybody, I feel like everybody has that. They have that raw energy inside them, right? But they may be disconnected from it. But it's like All these fucking rules and bullshit societal viewpoints.

Yeah, I mean, it gets everyone, and we were all part of that at some point. I just feel like, is there an innate possibility for everyone to break free of that, do you think? Because I feel like some people are just too deep, and I want to always believe in the capacity of people to change, obviously. But, you know, there's the whole thing of some people don't even have an inner monologue, you know. They don't— they don't talk through things, they're just thinking pictures. Have you heard that?

Yeah, yeah, I actually heard it on your podcast with, I think, Lobo.

Yeah, like, I mean, what's going on there? How do we— how do we, uh, remedy that situation?

Like, yeah, I think like pre-2019 I had like so much faith in like humanity, right? I was like, yo, like people are epic, you know, people, you can't control people, people are gonna, everybody's gonna make it. And then all this, all this, this entire gong show played out the last couple of years and I've seen like people that I thought would never break, would never bend, being the first ones to follow the programming, right? And it's like the stuff that people are quote unquote selling out for is just like, that baffles my mind. Like, it's like, hey, I got to do X because otherwise I won't be able to travel. I'm like, motherfucker, you don't even travel. You never traveled up until now. Now you're talking about fucking traveling. Get the fuck out of here with that. Right? And it's like, it hurts because it feels like, bro, like, it's been decades and decades and decades of programming you through the television screen, through the music, through the food. And this is the ramifications. These are the consequences, right? So I believe in the potential of every single person, but I don't know, bro, I lost a little bit of faith these— this last couple of years with just people as a whole. And it seems like the deeper they go the worse it gets. And it's tough, man. Even like certain loved ones, right? It's like you can't even have a conversation anymore. You can't even think critically. You can't even ask questions without them putting labels on you. And I'm like, I'm not on zero, I'm on no side. I'm just trying to think critically. I'm just asking questions. Can I ask my questions? Can I speak? Can I talk? They just hit you XYZ. And I'm like, yo, this is, this is, this is the way.

Yeah, it's knowing when there is a discussion to be had and if there are people in your life that are open to just even just discussing things. Like, the— what I think has helped, um, my mindset in general is understanding that there are— you can have an argument, you can have a discussion where you just work through the logic of each side and analyze where these things going, think about, okay, who benefits from this? Mm-hmm. You know, just that second order, third order thinking rather than the base level without getting emotionally detached and just having a conversation with someone. Most people clam up entirely because it's so confronting in their minds that to even think about something that's outside of the approved paradigm of of the TV. And if you have people in your life you can have those conversations with, treasure that. Truly treasure that. Truly nurture those relationships because those are the people that they understand. Look, I'm not, I'm not, uh, a zealot for, for these causes. I just want to understand why this is happening. And as a free person who doesn't want to be taken advantage of, you really have to look you know, who's, who's benefiting from all this? Who's profiting from the thousands of tests of, of, uh, COVID that's happening? Like, you really got to think about it past the level of the, the surface level, because the surface level will tell you one thing, and really you've got to look behind the scenes to see who's actually, uh, pulling the strings. Otherwise you're just going to be taken advantage of. But I feel like like that's probably happened since the very dawn of time, and this is just another expression of it and another cycle of the human condition that's playing out. And again, you gotta eject and, uh, and stop playing the game, otherwise you're going to get caught up with everything. If you're trying to— I don't know, man, it's like you want to be the force that's on one side, and that is the ideally the voice of reason, or even just the voice of, hey, this isn't what it seems like, please consider this other possibility. But then you can end up just shouting into the void a lot of the time, and that can be excessively draining on yourself. So it's a very delicate balance of wanting to help people, wanting to put this information out there but almost knowing that some people just won't accept it. And I think it's a, it's a question of not losing faith and motivation because they want you to give up and they want you to argue with your family. They want you to completely like cut ties with people if they don't agree with you. But ultimately, again, everyone's doing their best with the current level of consciousness that they're Yeah.

Where do you— I'm curious, where do you personally draw the line and find this balance between wanting to express and wanting to share and just wanting to inspire more critical thoughts? Like, I've seen what you did during that whole election time.

Right.

And I was like, yo, this guy's doing it up. Like, this is fucking amazing. Like, you really— took charge and you actually became like a very strong voice of reason and you stood for something. Right. I feel like most of that masculine spirit, one thing they really do is to just make you focus on your personal life. And they're like, just keep this masculine spirit caged in here and it's fine for now. And I feel like a lot of males, they just are okay with that. But what I really respected about you during that time in particular was you're like, nah, fuck this. I'm going to stand up for this. And you expressed your thoughts and your viewpoints about what was happening, right? But like, where do you draw the line between talking to the void and being like, all right, fuck it, like, I'm just gonna hit eject and just look out for myself and my loved ones?

Well, I think they're both possible. I think if you— you've got to dedicate your time to what's going to move the needle on your life first. And if you're doing that and you're still progressing each day, you're still training hard, you're still making moves in your business, you can have another part of the day where, you know, in this particular case, it was writing commentary, researching a bit what's going on, and using my platform to just highlight a few of these things that didn't stand up to any certain level of analysis. And I think, you know, I've always found in life that I've never been one to mute myself in person. And if something's bullshit, I always say it. And there's always people that are of the same opinion as you, a lot more people than you would think, but they're just too scared to actually say anything. And even when you say it, they're not gonna outwardly support you, but they'll come up to you after and say, dude, thank you for saying that. Like, everyone was, you know, I was thinking that it was bullshit. It's like, well, motherfucker, say something then. Support me in the fucking arena, you know it. And I'll always do that, and I'll always speak up because You know, it just takes one person to give you the, uh, confidence to say something as well. And with the whole mask thing, you see someone else not wearing a mask and you're like, fuck yeah, dude, you know that. And then you fucking rip your mask off and you're like, fuck yeah, you know. Like, it's— you have to be that initial, you know, you just have to tell the truth. What do you feel? What do you believe? And I don't think it was a conscious decision as such. It was just— I'm in the space on Twitter as well, um, politics comes up a lot, and it was just a question of me being like, well, that doesn't make sense. Why is this going on? Um, a lot of things don't add up, and I'm going to say that But then at the same time, and I, I did get this balance wrong a little bit, I think, over the last year or so, when there would be times where you're constantly like commenting on these things and retweeting stuff. But ultimately, what is that, you know? And I would like to think that I'm helping to contribute to the general flow of information and being like a node in that network that's highlighting these things that people wouldn't have otherwise come across. And that's what I like to do, to provide people with, you know, just a different point of view. But at the same time, it was sometimes would come at the expense of the business. Um, you know, maybe I wouldn't work out as much. And I think that always has to be number one priority. Again, you can't fill someone else's cup up if your own cup isn't full. And I think that working out, eating well, sleeping well, making sure you're getting money in, all of that has to come first. But then if you have done your work on that during the day and there's the— or there's just the opportunity to say something in general, that, that can be an option as well.

Yeah, I think you made it— you make a very strong point with respect to when you say that you're just speaking your, your level of truth, right? And I think this was actually a tweet from you. I don't know if I remember correctly, I might butcher it, but it's like, the more you know, the more you have to stand on what you know. Otherwise, like, the karmic consequences are greater for you than the person that is ignorant.

Right.

It's like if they're ignorant, it's fine because they don't know any better. But if you know better and you still don't say something, then there's a greater issue there, right? You feel that inner, inner split where you're not being true to yourself. You're not actually embodying what you feel. And again, I think that spiritual ramifications in whatever way that that arises could just be you feel a lower degree of self-esteem because, you know, X is true, but you're acting like Y in public, right? And I think what you're saying makes all the sense in the world. I think it's just a matter of living the truth that you know, right? And that applies on all levels. So if you know X food is bad for you and you continue to eat it, you're not living the truth. You're serving the false. If you do X and in the morning you wake feeling like, why? And you continue to do it. Same shit, right? And I think it's just like, X is true for me. This is what I feel. I'm just expressing it. You don't have to believe me. I'm just putting it out there. I have no desire to convince or persuade. Yeah, I'm just speaking my truth. Like, respected, or just move on. It is what it is, you know?

Yeah, exactly. It's the detachment from trying to convince someone and detachment from the outcome and and not wanting to have control over other people's opinion, simultaneously saying, this is what I think, this is take it or leave it, you know. And that's the distinction where I think you can get so emotionally upset if you're trying to convince people. Yeah, um, you're trying to like, you have this attachment to, I'm going to make them change their mind. Ultimately, that doesn't happen really across like one or two conversations, but the quiet people that will see stuff you post online and go, hmm, I've never thought about it that way. And then that starts the seed of germination of that changing mindset where they then go, oh, that doesn't make sense either. And that's what the share of information and the commentary ideally does, because you're not gonna completely 180 someone that is stuck within the programming, uh, over one conversation.

I think, I think what the greatest things that we can do is just like plant seeds, right? Like, that was one thing I learned in marketing. It's like if you try to make somebody do X, they will resent you for it. But if you just plant the seed, then it will eventually grow into their own idea and they'll be— yeah, they'll act from a place of empowerment. So like just planting seeds, just sharing what you know and just planting seeds and you have no idea how they're going to grow. but your job was just to plant the seed and you did your part and now you can just, um, wash your hands with whatever happens.

Exactly, man. I think living by example as well is one of the greatest things, um, to do. It's like if people see you living on your own terms and operating outside of the paradigm, then they, they take note of that whether they're not— whether they're conscious of it or saying that. But if you can make make it work, they can then take inspiration. Oh, fuck this, I actually don't need to do this job. Look at so-and-so, he's, he's doing his own thing. That is probably the greatest service that we can do, is working on ourselves, showing that we're not afraid, showing that we're not going to take people's words and opinions, um, to heart anymore, and just operating that other paradigm and inspiring others to do the same, which I think you are doing to such a great level, uh, and all your tweets and everything, uh, really resonate with me because of that.

Thank you, bro. I really appreciate that. And likewise, man, I feel like, I feel like you're on the cutting edge with respect to, like I mentioned at the start of this, of like the, the complete man, the complete human being.

Well, I'm trying. We'll get there eventually.

Fuck yeah, bro. I think it's going to be— I think life is going to be so fucking epic. And like the stuff that, you know, if we just tap in and we continue to do our stuff and we like press eject on the world, like we can really create so much epicness. And I feel like this inner fire where I feel like life is about to be as it should have always been, like this amazing paradise of pure, pure, pure epicness.

Greatness.

And I'm like so fucking excited to play my small part in creating that. Exactly.

That's what we should all aim for, man.

It's happening. It is done. Time just has to catch up.

Exactly. Exactly. Hey man, I want to thank you. You've got to wrap it up now, but Tej Dosa, uh, where can people reach you? And do you have any projects you're working on at the moment that you you want to shout out?

Uh, no, not really. Just the best place to probably reach me is just Twitter. Uh, you can just search for Ted Stelzen, you'll find it.

Awesome. I'll drop the links in the show notes as well. But, uh, thank you for joining me on the Solcast. Great conversation, as I knew it would be. And, uh, I'm sure we'll do this again one day.

Awesome. Thank you so much for your time, bro. Take care.

Thanks, man. See ya.

This.