Celebrating Success and Entrepreneurs Gone Wild

Okay, cool. And we are live. Let's see, you guys. We are here with you. And I'm going live on the collaboration group right now, so we'll be saying hi to them in a minute, and then we're going live in the challenge group. All right, guys. Well, I am excited about this today because I feel like this is kind of, like, a long time coming.

Because you're kind of like the.

Inception, like, or the. The. You know, like, one of. There's, like, a few moments that I know were, like, the igniters of do the thing, you know, my friend Sandy, who's my book strategist, a friend Deb. And then there's, like, you. Where we met before I even started the podcast. And.

And then, I don't know, it's kind of like, I always say, like, love at first sight, you know, where it's, like, where we just became friends. And then when I started the podcast, you started, like, introducing me to people, and. And that's what got me into momentum to even, like, want to do what I was doing. And so it's just cool to have you here now, celebrating you starting your own community, which is, like, really cool.

Turns around, you know, comes around, goes around, I guess.

Yeah, right. It's true. And so for those of you that don't know sue, sue is the I wanted. So it's like, I could say the founder or the owner, the face behind Entrepreneurs Gone Wild. And also Idlewild woods, which is the new retreat center that she's in the middle of creating and now co creating with this amazing community, you know, and just. Yeah, feel free to just kind of, like, say hi. And Sharon Allen's here, and Sarah's here, and Neil's here. Oh, we've got all the people happening here.

That's so good. Well, hello from the creek. This is Otter Beach. Thanks for the otter that may show up over there. If she does, I'm running away like a screaming little girl.

Oh, gosh.

First. So I try to defer, but it's hot out, and I'm like, this is lovely. Sitting with the feet in the creek.

You know, I love that about you because, you know, it's like. And I think that's why you're doing what you're doing, because entrepreneurs as a whole, like, this is, like, my experience a lot of times, right, where I'm, like, sitting in my kitchen, you know, like, on my computer. I did do a mastermind yesterday where I sat outside, and that was really nice. But it's like you, like, Remind me of that. And if I don't see it, I could get consumed by it and then never, never leave. Right.

Oh, I get you. I, I mean I went, I always joke. It's not a joke, but I always say that for about 20 years outdoors, that was where the car lived.

Yeah.

Go outside to get in the car and go somewhere and I didn't want to be outside. It was like, it's buggy, it's hot, it's boring. Everything is outside.

So good. And yeah, Sarah, good. Sarah said, you're getting, you're setting the example for all of us. Our office can be anywhere we choose, so. Well said, Sarah. So true, right? Yeah, true.

You can probably do what you got to do, you know.

Yeah, yeah. So let's just. For people that don't know, you share. Yeah, I gave it like a brief thing, but just share like who you are, what you're doing and what your excited about right now.

Sure. So I'm Sue Anderson. I'm the founder of Triumph Communications, which is a writing firm. We've done premium ghostwriting for clients since 2005. So we're coming up on 20, 20 years doing this. Most of those 20 years, like I said, I didn't go outside.

Maybe outdoors would be fun sometime or you know, if I finished everything then I'd go, when do you ever finish everything? So it just wasn't a part of my life. I read a book about two, three years ago called Three Simple Steps by Trevor Blake. This guy has built multiple nine figure businesses in his like 50s and 60s and he says that he spends like four hours a day working and most of that is out walking his dogs. I was like, I don't know about that. But it was assigned reading. So I read it and he challenged. He's like, you know, this is where you're going to get your best ideas. So spend some time outdoors every day. I'm like, all right, fine, I don't want to, but I will.

Started doing it and it caught like all of a sudden. I'm like, I kind of like it out here. There's like cool things I can do. I can deadhead roses. I could turn those roses into a jelly. I could, you know, it got weird.

And so a few, a couple years back I had also done an exercise called the Perfect Average Day. I assigned it. So I'm like, all right, you know Stan. Oh, you know, some of you guys know Stan. And so I did this and it just kind of percolated. I was like, yeah, that's nice. Fun. And I was taking this long car drive, and all of a sudden it hit me. You should build a retreat center for entrepreneurs and get them outdoors. I'm like, oh, that's crazy.

But I started. I took this idea home. Hey, honey.

You want to do what.

You'Ve done? No.

It's so good. It's reminding me of our. We have a podcast episode where she goes through the whole story. And it's so powerful because you have this, like, download, right? And you're like writing in your car and you're. It's like on the paper. And I love. I don't think I knew that Stan was the one that inspired it. And it just shows how, like, it just shows how fast when the right person prompt or the right thing in the right moment with someone that you like, either trust or, you know, you want to, like, do it can like, open up a whole world for you, you know, it really did.

The more I started talking to people about it, people, entrepreneurs were like, please build it.

We need this.

Well, I heard it.

Yeah. Like, so we had already met and then. And then. So we were already friends.

You were.

I think, I don't remember the order now, but like, yeah, I even had you help me with the writing stuff for my podcast and some different things, which has been great with the TR company. And then. And then I heard you on Brian's podcast, Brian Brand, for those of you that don't know. And he. He talked to you about this idea, you know, and that's when I listened to it. And then I invested right away because I was like, I want to be part of this thing you have going, you know, and so anyway, it's like, I mean, it's just like, it's so easy to get consumed right, by the stuff that we're doing. And I feel like you're like a living visual representation of someone that wasn't doing it before but now is doing it. And the smile on your face is like the proof, right, of like, what. And the. It's like the aura are also around.

You of like, living, like, heatstroke.

I don't know.

It's so good. It's so good. Well, I'm excited. And then entrepreneur has gone wild. Then, like, so then you got the property and then entrepreneurs gone wild. That's been like a whole nother kind of like living thing on its own, which is just like this really cool, you know, just thing that's being co created right now, right?

Yeah, totally. So, you know, we had the property. We were able to buy in February of what, 2022, I think it was, or 2021. I'm losing track of the years at this point. And then it was like, oh, wow. All right. Well, it's going to be. I was living a normal life, living in a house.

We had to wrap a lot of stuff up. It was like. And I started thinking, I want to serve these people immediately. I don't want to wait until I'm up there. It's going to take a while to build stuff. I need to do this now. So I thought I could make a newsletter and interview people entrepreneurs and hear their story and what they're working on now, and also how they do time outside to do their best thinking.

Yes, that'd be fun.

Could not believe the domain was available. Entrepreneurs.

I remember when you sent it to me, I was like, what in the world? How is that even possible?

And, like, anytime you say the name to anyone, they always are like, oh, man, that is, like, brilliant, you know? Yeah.

And you're gonna flash, but that's okay.

That's true.

That's so funny. Yeah. No, I love what you just said. The. I want to serve the people immediately. Because, like, there's some people, when they're creating a product or building a program or whatever idea they have, it, like, lives in this vacuum, you know, until the thing is out there and you realized you didn't want to do that, you know, And. And by wanting the feedback, that's when you started the newsletter, the podcast, and now the community.

Enter in. Enter in.

Stacy.

Funny, I was just thinking about this today. When we first met, you weren't even on social media, and now I'm like, look at dog. She's got up, like, 20,000 people following her. This is amazing.

Yeah. I even have an episode, which is so funny. One of my community members, Terry, watched it because it's from, like, I don't remember what number, but Dr. Nancy D', Andrade, she. My holistic coach, we did a private session. It was a coaching session, but I put it on the podcast.

Because it was so powerful, and it was on whether or not I should even go on social media. I had already had the Facebook group, the private one, but I was trying to decide if I should expand, expand. And I wasn't ready yet. I still didn't. What came out of it was, no, don't. You know, like. Like, you're not ready yet. And so it's true, though, right? It's like once you. Once you kind of, like, get out of your way, you finally feel more convicted in what you're doing, you know, in the mission that you're here to do. Right. And you know it from that car moment right after that exercise and you got this download that you're then pouring into those sheets of paper that then's brought to life. And then as you talk to more people and you're getting the people around it, it like kind of carried on in a. I can't even say the word. A momentum of its own, you know.

Oh, definitely. It takes a life of its own. What I'm loving too is like, so, you know, having a community like before, like most marketers think of, like, well, I need people to follow me so I can tell them here's the thing that I'm selling or whatever. And that's one benefit of having a following and a community and all that. But. But it's a whole different thing and a way better thing to be able to go, this is how I can serve people now. And we're collaborating on this. I don't want to just build what I think is going to be awesome. I want to build what people say they want. You know, we get into this, it'll be like, hey, what do you think? You know, like interior, you know, exterior structures. And what about, you know, how about the interior? And what kinds of facilities do you want? What kind of wow factor things do you want? Do you want a wood fired hot tub? Do you want hammocks? What do you know? All these things. I would be guessing otherwise. And they're expensive guesses. You want to make sure building what people actually truly want and not just what you're imagining.

Oh, good. Yeah. And so, just so you guys know. So Sue's part of the audience accelerator program and decided she was ready to. Well, you had already started your group, I think before we met, but it wasn't.

I was trying to think of a.

Nice way to say.

Wasn'T going out.

For alive in there.

Yeah. And so, so, and then, and then, so she's been going through this process of, you know, kind of like tapping in to like what you're doing what you want, right. Like through all the dares. And you even did find your voice.

Right.

Which I think gave you another level. Let's start there because I feel like we're missing that important piece, what you were saying with me saying I wasn't on social media. It's because I wasn't comfortable being like, seen. And I feel like we shared some of that stuff where find your voice did something there Maybe we should start there. Because I think people see now and they're like, of course sue is, you know, doing this. She can do all these things. They don't realize it takes this, like, process. Right?

Totally. Does it? Totally. So the whole reason I became a writer was because I didn't have to see people.

I didn't making sales calls. I didn't want to be, like, public. I just was like, I could just write in. In the dark room.

I was here, you know.

Yeah.

Put my name on people's books. It was just, you know, it was very, very quiet.

But, you know, I've done a lot of personal development stuff. And really, in the. In a nutshell, it's like, the best thing that you can do in life is become comfortable in yourself and let your light shine so that other people who need what you're learning, what you're doing, all that, they can't find you. If you're, like, hiding in the dark, it doesn't work. So being in the. I think it was your. The find your voice challenge. So that was basically. It ended up being like, hey, we're gonna find it. And then that led into the start a podcast challenge. And I'm like, all right, I'm doing that too.

What was cool, though, is because you weren't even. You were doing the glamping one, because those are different. Right. You have two podcasts now. And so since you learned the skill to start a podcast, you then, like, were like, oh, I'm just gonna do this other one. Like, the thing that was imposs. Impossible and hard then suddenly became, like, easy. Right, because you already did it.

Yeah, it was like, oh, well, of course I'm doing a podcast now. The thing is, I got this idea for another podcast. Like, stop. Yeah, but you made it easy to do it, you know, because it was like. I just figured that the tech stuff was going to be awful. I mean, I can do some tech stuff, but not, you know, I'm not a coder or anything. And it was like, oh, well, this is actually really easy. Oh, here's a platform for it. Oh, here's how you do this. Here's how, you know, I was like, oh, why wouldn't I do it?

Right? So do you think. Because I'm really. I'm really strongly convicted in the fact that, like, the private group community is how. For people that haven't found their voice, maybe depending on where you're at in your journey, like, if you're trying on Instagram, you're trying all these things, but you're still like a show, right? Like, maybe, maybe. Or you're not. You're either like me how I was where you weren't out there at all, not wanting to anyone to see you, or you're still kind of like, showing, like, the superficial version of you with, like, your mask on. Like, do you think that private community. Because I think you even did all the dares and find your voice. I remember you, like, finishing. I'm like, dang, Sue's, like, so good. And it's like. Like, that, like, helped you kind of like, get that comfort level of doing.

Really did. Because, I mean, every. If you ask anybody, oh, how do you like, hearing yourself? Your recorded voice, they're like, well.

Can'T stand it. I'm like, oh, my. Just. You can't stand the sound of it. All that kind of stuff. Seeing yourself on video, I mean, that's hard for a lot of people. I mean, you know, I. I'm not a. If you're a beauty queen, maybe.

Then it's like, oh, man. Well, I looked funny. My hair was weird. I didn't have the right clothes. You know, there's a million things that can stand in the way. And it's like, how sad, because I'll tell you every time I've been on a podcast and feedback I've gotten from mine is like, you're just so natural. Like, this is so. I just felt like I was hearing from a friend, you know, all this kind of stuff. I'm sitting here like, okay, yes, I did wash my hair last night with a watering can. It's too hot for makeup. I don't have any clean. I mean, clean clothes, but they're, you know, whatever. I'm just sitting here being me, you know, and it's not slick and it's not. But that's the thing, you know, that's like. That's like, if somebody is coming, if they're ever going to come to the Idlewild Retreat Center, Idle Woods Retreat Center. And if they're expecting to meet some very polished and. And, like, glamorous person, they're going to be very disappointed.

So.

Well, be me. Oh, yeah. It just. Other people permission to be themselves, too, and I think we need more of that.

Oh, so good. You're making me realize. I don't think I've noticed this. Part of the. The reason why this stuff works so well is because, like.

It'S being able to, like, show up without the. The like, with. Find your voice or whatever program you're in. Of do the thing, right? I'm like, stop your show.

Like, take off your makeup, go outside, you know, like, even if it means don't. Having your video on whatever is going to get the voice, like the, The.

The.

The voice out of the head, right? That's what, that's what we're wanting. And then. And then showing up as yourself. And that's where the audience attractor thing works, right, because you're releasing all those perceptions of who we think we need to be. You know, what we think we need to show up as. And you're getting that, giving that permission to be yourself, you know?

Yeah, well, and I think you do. I have you to thank because you came on one video and you had shower. Shower cap on. I'm like, all right, that's cool.

Yeah, I still haven't put that. I don't think it's on YouTube yet. It's still only private. But that's the. That's the beauty of a private group. And also you having a private community. It's like, you start out, like, so now that we're talking, now we have audience. Incubator is kind of the new branded name I'm using. And who knows, it might change by the time I launch it. But it's. It's basically like you're coming in, like the do the thing private group, right? So you're like, finding your voice. And Janice said it the other day where she's like. She feels like now she's stretching it, which I really loved that, like, so find your voice was like her finding it. Now in Incubator, she's stretching it, or Accelerator, whatever. We're calling the name. Let's just pretend there's no name. Which is the thing I always tell people there. You don't have to have a name for something in order to do it. Right. Like, because I could be stuck in this name, but I'm just continuing on. But anyway, point being is, then you're stretching it. But then when you get to do it in your own private community, it doesn't have to be out in the world yet. You could still do it. And like I said, that shower cap video, I don't think it lives anywhere else other than that private group right now. Because I'm not ready for the world to see me in Shower cap, right. At some point, I will be fine with it. But that's the point, is it doesn't matter when you have those people you've curated to be in there. And if someone doesn't like it, then that's fine. You're not my person anyway.

Exactly. But those who do, they're like, ah, I love. I love her shower cap and I love her.

This is.

Yeah. Like, it's real. You know, there's so much in this online, you know, technology is fantastic. This is. I would never have met you. You know, it's like there are people all over the world that you can be friends with, like, legit friends. But it's also got this other side where everything is very perfect. And I don't know who's perfect. Maybe you. But it's like, this is. It's our opportunity to be genuinely ourselves. And I. Huge. Because.

People, like, if I'm. If somebody's coming, expecting this perfect thing, I guarantee they're going to be like, well, there was a bird, you know, tweeting outside my window, and it was loud, or I heard an airplane go by. I mean, it's just they're. They're expecting perfection instead of feel, which is actually attainable, you know, and beautiful and wonderful and in the same thing, if we can just be ourselves in online, in our marketing, you know, in everything, if we just show up as ourselves, we don't have to. Like, there's not. We can do the thing really quickly, you know, so. And I think, like, some of the. So much of your community, it's like, you have dares that happen. And it's like, all right, I'm just gonna go do it now. You know, it's like, if I. If you had to prepare and get your hair perfect and get the right set and get the everything, you know, it would never happen. It's just one more way that we can procrastinate. And I feel like if on an important mission, there's a sense of urgency. We don't have time to, like, oh, wait, no, I have to look perfect before I do this. Like, we're not. We're kind of irrelevant. We're. We're the core of it, but we're also irrelevant in a way.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's so, so true. And it's so exhausting when you don't, like, trust yourself, right? Because then you're, like, you're. You're having to ask people what they think and what. What. Whatever that is, Right. But when you're able to just kind of like, tap into who you are, what you want, then it's like, effortless, right?

Totally. Totally.

It's a huge. Sarah's here, do it now. Community presenting.

So good. I wanted to Just say a couple things are coming in. Hey, Allison. Good to see you. And Nicole is here. She said, before I went back to my nine to five, I was called to spend my last week on of Freedom outside. I painted the eaves of my house and redid the mulch in my backyard. That's so good. I love that. And Neil said, amazing. Neil said, amazing. Okay, let's go to your launch party. So one of the things we get to do with the accelerator incubator, whatever the name is.

With the newest do the Thing program is, is we get a launch party. So we're like, kind of like, nurturing. We're like. We're creating this, like, space where the group is going to come alive. Right. And get connected together. And your community was like. I could almost cry, like, because I was there and. And like, how it felt to be in the space with all the other people.

Doing it. I think I want to ask a question before we talk about it. Had you done a live before where people were there commenting? Was that your first time?

No, no, no.

So that's not normal for you to just, like, show up and, like, people are like. You're, like, interacting with people.

Seeing it, it would think that you would. I didn't think you had, but I didn't get a chance to ask you. Seeing you do it, it seemed like you had done it before, which was really interesting. How did you think you were able to do that?

I figured it would kind of be like a group podcast. So I kind of went in with that mentality. Now, you know, I have extra challenge, some little extra challenges because we are off grid.

Yeah.

Gotta make sure that the solar charger has gotten the phone ready and I'm able to get on and I can't. No way. I can use a computer and the phone and, you know.

Yeah.

It's not my normal setup. So I was. That was my biggest worry was that, well, first of all, what if nobody shows up? Second, all right, well, what if I can't? What if I mess up the tech and I can't do it? Right. And it. It still, it seems, seemed to work out. It was great. You know, everybody who was there be there. There was interaction. I was able to give away a free stay at Otter Wild Woods Retreat Center. Like, oh, my gosh, this is so cool. You know, and it's just. Yeah, really, really fun. And it felt kind of like. Like a sitting around the campfire.

Yeah. I think it was your launch party. That was when I got like, the first. I didn't have the name yet, but I got the precipice. Is that a word? I don't know. But the, I got the like the idea of like not the word incubator but like, because I, it was like incubator. Right. Because I'm like seeing the questions you're asking and people are like answering. We're like, oh, what do you think about this? And what do you guys think about this? And we're all like commenting and excited and we're like drawn into your mission. Right. Which is getting people outside.

And giving them a visual of you creating the space for them when it's, you know, when it, when it's alive and they're now co creating in that space. And I just loved how you were able to like bring the people together to, to, to really honor like what they want, you know, and what they're looking for.

Yeah, oh, definitely. Because it's, you know, it's, we all have great ideas about, oh, well, I should do that. You know, this should be my offer. But we never, you know, until you're actually talking to people. It's like that, that quote about every battle plans. First casualty is like the first battle. It doesn't, you know, and better to find this out like now, you know, what if people, if I'd gotten on there and people are like, we will never ever come there. That's. There's bugs, there's snakes someplace that I guarantee there's a bear somewhere in the near area, you know, like. Yeah. Terrified and, or disgusted or just like not interested in the idea. That would be really good to know.

And you know, it's, it's that feedback that rather than creating in a vacuum, which is what is very easy to do. And I, you know, I've created tons of products before info, products, how to, whatever, you know, courses. But I asked anybody on the first place. So it's like you could sync hundreds, thousands of hours into something and a lot of money into it and then find out nobody wants this thing that I created. That's messed up to say the least. You know, like, you don't want to do that. It's crushing. You want to make sure that what you're building is going to be what people actually want. The person you want to serve. You want to make what they want.

Yeah, and I love that you say that because. And then you're, you're making what they want, but because you're, you're co creating, they're like a part of it. Right. So there's some kind of level of just like everyone wants to be a part of something. I, you know, Anastasia. So I'll talk about her for a minute. It's kind of a weird connection because it's like, not related, but it's so related in my head right now. Maybe she just messaged me the other day, but.

For those of you that don't know, Anastasia was. We have a couple podcast episodes if you guys want to go back and listen to. But she was like in the war in Ukraine. And like, literally, like, I talked to her three weeks after.

After she like, escaped. And then she ended up helping like 130 women get jobs and find shelter pretty much. And at the time, like, I didn't know how to help, you know, like anyone there, you know, and by getting connected with her, you know, and then being able to then feel a part of, like, just by knowing, by me having her on my podcast, having her in my community, and then being able to like, donate. She gave us an opportunity to not even donate. She, like, had these info pro, like webinars that were amazing and I would have paid them on their own, you know, and that was then. That money was like basically being put towards that. Right. And then I was able to share it. And that's what I heard from people that like, didn't know how to even do it. They're like, I didn't even know how to like, do it. Anyway, the point is, is like feeling a part of something is what I. It felt me connected. Right. And I think that's what we're able to do with our communities, you know, and why it's so special is because you're able to bring someone into an experience of something that you have a strong vision for and it just sounds good to someone else. But then because they're so excited about it, it, like, it. The momentum goes so much faster and it compounds exponentially, you know, because. Because they're part of it, you know?

Oh yeah. I mean, it used to be too. The whole thing used to be build in secret, you know, like, don't tell until you're launched. That's it. Yeah, I, I don't now. I look back, I'm like, you know, it's funny when we change, you can't remember how you used to think.

True. It's true.

Yes. But that was a big thing. Like, oh, you don't tell anybody until it's done.

Right? Yeah.

And it's like, okay, so fine, that's one way you could go. But you're going to be Doing this completely by yourself with no support whatsoever, no feedback at all until it's done. Done. It does not make any sense to me at this point. Whereas, I mean, this project is way bigger than anything. Like, it's me and my hubby and my son. We, you know, we pay my son to come out. It's like, this is not something we could just do on our own. We've got to have, you know, that input, that support from a community, that promise of, yeah, we're totally coming there. Like, all of that kind of stuff and their feedback on, like, oh, well, we want this, we don't want that. You know, that is huge. It changes everything about creation of something awesome.

Well, the interesting thing is, like, all the things that will come up, like, even while you're waiting for them to be able to come there, it's like you could create products, you know, you could create info products, you can create physical products because you're like, having the aliveness, you know, of the group and them telling you what they want, having this, like, goal. Like, for me, my original thing was I was doing research for my books. So my group was a way for me to get the research. And. And then all of this other stuff, you know, came up, you know, because of it. And the book hopefully will eventually get done. I've said it twice now, so I've got to at least put it on my calendar to like, reopen it again. But I said it in the call we did earlier, so I'm like, I have to listen to myself now because I'm like, it's obviously, like, annoying me that I don't have it done yet. But the point is, it doesn't matter if I ever got it done, really, because I've done all the. This other stuff because of the book. And so my point is, is, like, you just, like, once you get the people around your mission and your goal, that's what brings everything to life, right? And then things that you didn't even expect. Oh, Julie, perfect example. In our program Hidden gifts of Loss. We, when she joined, we didn't even know if she was going to have a group. She just joined to stay in the connection because she was in Find your Voice and. But what's come out of it now is she just submitted an essay for something, you know, and like, something that would have been, like, impossible before. Now she did it and just, you know, completed. I'm like, maybe that's why you did that. Like, we, you know, we don't know what it is, but it's like, there's so much. And the podcast is coming from it too. But the point is, it's like the unexpected things that we don't even know are going to come, and it's the same thing's going to happen with your group where they're going to, like, want something, need something, and then you'll be able to then see it and then do what feels good for you, too.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's given me ideas just watching, like, the way you've done stuff and the way that I've seen people in the groups do stuff. So it occurred to me, everybody talks about grounding, right? Take your shoes off, stand in some grass, you get a little tick. What's supposed to be really good for you? I don't like going barefoot. I was raised, like, my dad was in Vietnam. He saw kids with ringworm left and right. We were taught, like, and we had a dog. He was like, don't go barefoot. That's disgusting. It was filled in my head, I don't go barefoot, but I'm like, I have done it. There's the electric charge. And I'm like, that's cool, but is it ringworm?

All right.

I would be up for having a challenge because I know. So I pulled people. How do you feel about going barefoot? 0 to 10, like, want to do it, don't want to do it. And I'm like, it's a thing. People either love it or hate it. And I'm like, that would be fun to do a little five day challenge of going barefoot.

It would be really fun because there's that grounding effect when you're like, with the tree, right. And you're able to put your feet in a grass. In the grass. And that would be a really interesting. Oh, yeah. Oh. Like, all the ideas are coming right.

Now.

Because I'm not the, I'm not the grounding expert and all. I'm like, I want to do this. Should we try it? Let's try it. It's a challenge. Let's try. You know, I feel so free to go. You know what? I don't like going barefoot. You're supposed to. And, you know, and that's fine. And so that. That's kind of cool. I can offer that type of stuff. But having had that feedback, I wouldn't have known otherwise. I would have thought I was the only one. That was freaky. Also, like, I was able to go, huh. All right, well, we're doing weird stuff. We're, we're like doing excavation we're doing, you know, all this weird stuff. I'm like. But people seem to like it when I go live and show them this stuff. Do you. Hey, folks, do you want to come here and learn how to do, like, actor. You want to learn how to build it off grid? Shower, and you want to do that? Like, sleep in your car or a tent? You still. You still want to do that?

Yeah.

Making me.

Yeah. You know what's making me think is, especially when I think of an entrepreneur and why this is so good is, like, sometimes so many things take so long to get done, and, like, it could be, like, a year before we see a dream or goal that we had, like, accomplished. Whether it's a. A product, we're creating a program of whatever we're doing. But with what you're doing with. With the retreat center, and especially what you're saying right now is you're giving people a way to see a result really fast, you know, by being able to accomplish something at your. At your property. Right. And so that's, like. That's, like, soothing that entrepreneur mind of, like, not winning. Right. It's like an immediate win, and you feel good about being able to do it. I didn't think about it in that way. I feel like that's a really. That could be why it's so exciting to people, is not only from the nature aspect and being outside, but also just being able to accomplish something and sometimes maybe something that you didn't even know you could do.

Totally. And so much of what we do as, you know, knowledge workers and entrepreneurs.

At this point is so.

It's intangible. Like, oh, I have this. This book, you know, like, I work 50,000 words for my book. Okay, point to it. You know, it's like, oh, it lives in my computer. You know, there's nothing that we can see. I mean, my work as a writer, same thing. It's never, ever, ever, ever done. Not even close to done. And so it's like, I think humans are built to have something that we start, we do it, and there's an end. Maybe you have to do it again another time. But something tangible that we can point to and go, huh, I dug that hole.

I love that. Oh, so good.

Sue and I. So I think that there's some allure.

It's very satisfying.

Yeah. Satisfying. That's such a good word. Okay, I've got to answer a few things here. So Allison wanted to know more about your business.

The writing one or the.

Oh, yeah, let's do both. Just Because. Yeah. And especially. Yeah. In case people are interested in. Yeah, for sure. And then we're not done, you guys. So stay on. Because I, sue had a big win also in the program where she did one of the dares and it created a huge like thing that happened. So I want to.

Don't leave.

Writing business. For like 20 years we've been writing content for, for mostly for marketing firms for their clients. So that's cool. With AI coming along, we're dead, you know, so I'm like, well, that sucks. What can we do that only a human can do? So currently what we're doing is we're creating five day free educational email courses that people can send out to help grow their list. You're, you're giving them something, you know, your prospects, something very valuable, like truly valuable, so they actually sign up. And then it does shorten the sales cycle for them. It helps people to take like, maybe you have a big social media following but nothing in email. This, this fixes that. So you now own your audience. So that's super cool.

That's so good. Yeah. So it's five day. So basically when someone joins the, their email list, they're getting an email sequence every. For five days, basically leading them to something.

Exactly. So it could be like, so I interview the person like, all right, well, you know what's the best thing? Let's say it's a business consultant.

Yeah.

Helping people get on the Google three pack or whatever. Great. All right, well, you know, half the people out there, they know they got a problem. They know they're not getting free phone calls from Google all the time from being on that top spot. And so, you know, we do a five day course about like, here's why you want to get into the three pack. Here's how it happens, here's how your competitors got there. Here's the mistakes that most people make when they're trying to get it this type of stuff or have a sales call. They're. They're already sold.

They.

Oh, this is amazing. And this, this company gave me such value in this free course that I was in that of course, you know. Yeah, obviously they're, they're the choice that I want to make. So it's.

Yeah, that's so good. I know we've been kind of talking about this through email. We have to talk more because I'm like, that'd be neat even for my, with the program. Right? When people join their Facebook group, they're going on their email list. If they could do something with that. So, yeah, we have to. We have to revisit that for sure.

Because. Yeah. I mean, all the things as far as, like, you know, or even, like, Mike. Mike Shet.

Ravka.

So with his Instagram course, like, off the top of my head, here's five things people do wrong with Instagram or think that they do. And you don't have to do any of those. And if you're trying to do those, they're going to screw you up. You're going to be so wrapped around the axle that you'll never take action. So those. Now do the thing, you know? Yeah. Great way to kind of knock out some objections before somebody gets in there.

I love that. So good. I know Sarah said, as children, we were expressing our creativity when we were building or creating something with our hands. Mud pies, sports, finger paintings, etc. It's a really good point. Like, we. I mean, you are. You're bringing back, like, the. Like the. The thing that we're designed, you know, to do as kids. Right. And you're bringing it back to people that are consumed by. I mean, I'm just. I mean, I know, like, this mind right now because I'm so. Like, if you would have asked me, like, six months ago, I don't think I would have been as dialed into, like, meeting this. But, like, because I got so consumed by what I was doing, you know, it. Like, it, like, I lost other areas of my life. So I think that's so huge that you're giving them a space. Yeah. For that.

Oh, and then.

Oh, sorry. So you mentioned the writing business. And then. Why don't you. Let's finish Allison's question.

The.

The other part of it, too.

Yeah. So the other part is the retreat center, which is going to be. So I'll tell you first, because, you know, so we decided we were. So it's kind of weird. The county we're in put a moratorium on any glamp sites. So six months, no glamp sites. I'm like, son of a. Perfect timing. Dang it. Rules. Okay, fine. So I was like, well, we'll just build a cottage first. Okay, fine. And it's still. It's a possibility. But that's expensive, you know, and it's not the thing that I really want. So it occurred to me, I could put a dome up here. Like, it's my property. Yeah. That's for friends and family. Sure.

Yeah.

I was like, all right, so now we're gonna be able to do it much, much faster. We just gotta Go pick the spot.

For it in the hill.

You've been there, you've stepped, you've walked.

And then we'll build a deck. We'll get the dome. Voila. We can start hosting. I'm like, yes.

Yeah. Just. Yeah.

Just.

Yeah. I forgot to mention that just. You guys know, I went to this property, and it, like. Like, I don't even know. Did I not even have words. So just like, you're just immediately. You know, sometimes when you go somewhere, it takes you, like, a day to kind of, like, bring your anxiety or all that stuff that you've got, like, the thoughts and all that. And it was just an immediate, just, like, opening of just expansion is what I felt when I went. And then you. And then it was like, every little corner she takes you on is like a new kind of, like, surprise, you know? And then it's like. And then you get the water, and you're like, oh, my gosh. What is know. It was really exciting. Yeah.

Like, elementary kids at recess when we were running around like, stacy, come check this out.

I know. So cool. So good. Okay, so let's see. I don't know what is going on with my eyes. Hold on a second. Either my glasses are dirty or I cannot see anymore. I'm just gonna hope that my glasses are dirty. So. Yeah. Oh. Allison said, creative, dramatic play is key to developing the mind of children. And language, communication, it's all creating worlds. This is really interesting.

Yeah. Really interesting. Like, this could be a fun. Like, in your group, a fun way. Well, we're going here. I wasn't. This wasn't the immediate bridge to. Thanks, Elson. So now it's just bridging to this. It could be a fun way that you're bringing people into the community, you know, like, as experts, like, of these things, like the grounding experts expert or the.

The. Like the. That we did this as kids. Like, let's get back to this, people. You know, those could be fun until the commute. Until your retreat center is, like, going. Going where? You could bring them there in person, or you could just do both. But, yeah, I'm thinking that would be a really fun way to just kind of, like, open people's minds up more why it's so important to stay outside or to be outside.

Oh, yeah. They could even be little challenges. Like, Sarah just gave me the idea of, like, huh, Mud pie challenge.

Yeah.

Yeah. And I remember because when my kids were doing mud pies, this came out during Alex's launch party where I was like, oh, she's doing hers is Mom's meadow. And I don't remember what was said. Maybe it was with Sarah. Now I'm thinking about. But something was said that I remembered my kids always doing these mud pies and it being really fun. And whenever I would do it with them, I did. I kept saying, this is so satisfying, you know, because you're like. You're taking this thing that's like dirt and mud and then you're turning it in and then it becomes this, like, hardened, like, thing that looks like almost like it would just be a statue on its own, like, because it becomes that hard, you know? And I. The satisfying word is the word that I use. So that is really. It's soothing for your mind because you're completing something, you know?

Totally. Yeah, that's. It's an amazing. It's something that you like. It's easy to understand it in our heads how something is, but our lives don't reflect it. It's like everything is halfway, you know, we're never done with our stuff. Especially if you're doing anything online. It's never done, you know, and it's not. There's nothing you can point at and go, ha. Look at that. You have to like, okay, come here, I'll show you online. Like, there's nothing carry with you. And go. I made this.

Right?

Yeah.

No, so true. So, okay, let's talk about your. Your. You've had a lot of wins, obviously, being in the program and all that stuff. But let's talk about, like, the. The. The dare that you did. And then what happened? I think it was the emailed dare. Yeah.

So looking for which dares, like, Stacy will teach you millions of ways. Okay. A lot of really cool ways.

Your group and grow your community like this. And I've been a little, you know, again, being off grid. It's a. It's a little challenging. WI fi. I'm like, I'm on. But I'm like, all right, I gotta really pick what's gonna work. So I've been on some people's lists since probably 2005.

And I always hear from. And sometimes I'll write back, you know, like, you know, and get a little conversation going. So Peter Shankman, who was the founder of Harrow, helped a reporter out, has an email that comes out. And I've corresponded a few times. It's just, you know, nice. They. Oh, I really like this. Whatever. So he was announcing that he has a new thing. He had sold Harrow years ago. The people who bought it, it's and now he's making a new one. So I just wrote back. I'm like, that sounds fantastic. Hey, would you mind. Would you like to come in front of my group of entrepreneurs? Because I know he also spends time outside to do his best thinking. He also skydives.

A little extreme. And he's like, yeah, I'd love to. And I. When I sent it, I thought, oh, come on. Like, he's world famous. This dude speaks on hundreds. He's spoken hundreds and hundreds of stages. Speaks to groups of 20,000 people. I got 143 people in my group. I don't know, maybe 10 will show up, you know, But I was like, I'm going to try. What's he going to say? No, and you're horrible? No. He'll just say, can't do it. That's fine. I can survive this. I can survive the potential. It's a risk and it's. It's an okay risk. And he showed up.

His schedule to get on. We had a handful of people. It was a wonderful interview. It felt like hanging out with my brother or something. Like, it was amazing. And all because I would never have thought to do it. Except you had the dare out of, hey, who do you email with? Who emails you? You could reply, you could talk, you know, I'm like, wow, give it a shot, you know, it's amazing.

Yeah, it's so good. So think about it from, like, the skill. This is really coming up right now. You have the skill to start a podcast, right? You have a skill to do a launch party where you're bringing people together in a gathering place and connecting them together, because we were all talking with each other, too. And then you have the skill to, like, reach out to anyone that you want and they come into your community. Like, how cool is that?

And it's so personal. It's not like. Like everything I think I had done before, again with trying to hide or be invisible or whatever, it was like my face was never on camera. I used stock photos, stock, whatever, you know, all this kind of thing. And it just. It felt like a way to hide if I were inter. Even when I first started inviting people to Entrepreneurs Gone Wild, I didn't know, Like, I hadn't gone through your program, so I didn't know. So I was just hitting invite, invite, invite, and people did, you know, they're very kind to them. But now it's like, I want to have a conversation with them first, you know, so it's. I have the opportunity to actually meet People and chat with them and get to know now it's much more meaningful to have them in the group and for them to be in the group.

You know.

So good. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It's so true. And then. And then now, like, where you can go with it is you could just like. Just like you did with the podcast, where you started a new podcast. Now anytime you want to do a community gathering, anytime you want to reach out to an expert, like, yeah, there you go.

Yeah. What would you say to someone that again, I'm the program, the new program, the updated one, whatever the name is, is going to be August 5th is the start date. And so I believe I'm going to be inviting people. People to it. Next Saturday, I'm doing a free training to help people grow their audience. And then I'll potentially probably do the invitation then, where I'll be opening the doors for it for the new 2.0 version of, like, what I learned from. From everything with this, with. With getting to work with you amazing people and just seeing just all the stuff that we got to do together. It's been such a. Incredible experience, you know, just being in the space with you guys. But what would you say to people, like, even thinking about even coming to the training or just Jo.

So I can't remember what they call it. It's like open seating at a concert, right? You make sure you're first in line, get there, don't wait.

Like, oh, I'll just catch the replay. It's not the same. They're live. It's an amazing thing. Like, get there, bust the door down, be the first in line and get there. Go to the free thing, because you're gonna see. Like, this is. It's amazing. I've had the. The amazing privilege of watching Stacy do all kinds of different communities, you know, launch parties, all this kind of stuff. There's something different about the communities that she creates and the community she helps other people create. It's not. It's not this, like, pissing contest like most, you know, a lot of things are like that, or it's like this very. Everybody got to be all perfect before they did. This is very real. And then the support that you're getting is absolutely real. And the people that she. Community that she gathers together in her community, they're seeding your community, too, and helping you. It's like, it. I. Stacy has this ability to bring out the very best in people and help them to. To do that for other people. So you want to be this is a no brainer market. Put the out, set an alarm, like whatever you got to do to get yourself there. Because this is going to be incredible. Once you see how it is, then you make your decision. But my gosh, if you're not at least in the master class first or whatever you're calling. Are you calling a master class?

It's a master class, you know. Yeah, it's just the one next Saturday is a training because it's still, I'm still kind of like putting it together but I'm like worst case, just the same thing. I'm just asking people what they want to know and then I'm going to share it, you know, based on the system.

So yeah, it's just Stacy makes, makes things so much simpler. I mean she's. There's not all the, you know, I gotta do it perfect. No, that it's do it now, it's not the do it sometime.

You're like living proof of like what a collaboration partnership is. Right. Like we met at capcon which is part of Ryan Moran's community capitalism and he's somebody that I think exactly exhibits really well, kind of like what I'm kind of teaching people now because I was called to him specifically from his book where his book spoke to my soul, you know, and then I signed up for his. That's when I signed up for capcon. I read the book and then I went to capcon. We met you then. Oh, I think you. I don't remember how it all worked, but then you're helping me, I'm helping you. And then you join this and now it's like this constant collaboration that we're just giving back and forth. Like you're sending people my way, I'm sending people your way. And it's not even about that. It's just about this co creation of like magnificent ideas and expansion that happens just because we're aligned together because we're like showing up as ourselves. Right.

It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.

Yeah. And I think like I really want that for people. I want them to understand like how collaborations, you know, like this. And it doesn't start with like trying to sell someone something, you know, or like having that spammy thing like do you want in on my thing? You know, it's like sharing who you are. Right. Like what you want and then, and then that's how those people are going to come into your world. Because whatever you have, they're going to show up for it.

Exactly. No, that's. It's a It's a fantastic thing. What you've done is, is like showing people how to.

Find and then give this beautiful thing that's inside of them to the people who need it most. We tend to be very lonely in business and in life, and this is being able to collaborate with people who are like minded, who see what you're doing and like, really see that changes everything. Now it's a pleasure.

Yeah. So what's in store for you entrepreneurs gone wild? Well, woods, you've got the email course. Like, what do you. What are you excited about right now?

All of the above.

Only the human exclamation point. I don't think they mean it as an. As a compliment.

That I absolutely adore. Like, and when they're all together, it's like, ah, this is.

Say what you just said again. It just cut out for a minute.

Oh, which part did I lose?

You just the. You were just saying all of it and then you.

Yeah, so my kids call me the human exclamation point.

It's not meant as a compliment, I don't think, but it's okay. But what. I thrive on having things that I'm very excited about doing. And that enthusiasm, that joy that comes from doing something that means something to me and to other people, that's. That's huge. So have. And these are all tied together. So it's just. This is. This is why I get up every day. It's just to create all these things and share them with people.

So good. And yeah, I would love you guys to join Sue's community. Entrepreneurs Gone wild. Do you want to share a little bit about what that will be for them and how.

Question. I don't have another question. That was it.

Some amazing other speakers to come in. Like, as I meet people, this is also the cool thing. So I, like, had a really quick conversation with Deb Sherman. I'm like, this is awesome. Love you to come in and talk to the group all about it. This is amazing. I would never have met her if I hadn't met you, you know, like, this is so cool. And so I've got. Let's see, on Monday we've got Vicki Pools coming in to do a session on playing because, oh my gosh, it's so easy to be really serious. I tend to be very serious and I'm doing the thing and I've got my. You know, and remembering to just go have some fun too. And she's a hypnotherapist, so I don't know what's going to happen, but it's going to be awesome.

A couple weeks from then, I've got a woman who teaches, like, feminine energy, masculine energy, and how to work with that. And she's coming in. I've got. I'm like, I'm constantly. As I meet people in the group, I'm like, oh, this seems like something that people would enjoy, you know, so it's like scheduling these out. These are all live events that'll be in there just for members. You gotta join Entrepreneurs Gone Wild to be in there. Once we get Wi Fi, the newsletter comes back online.

To interview an entrepreneur. And then, like, I just get. It's almost like a movie of their. Their journey and then just writing that out and I put some work with it. And I think you used it at one point, right. For applying for a TED Talk.

Everything. I use it for every. It's like, my favorite. Like, you would. What you did is, like, my favorite thing because it helps you see yourself in a new way. The way that you see us.

That's like.

It's like you're able to put a visual behind it, which is, like, so cool. Yeah.

And that's. I love doing that. I love doing that. So things in it, you know, the. The podcast goes normally. It was every week. This and the newsletter as well. So I'm looking forward to all that starting back up.

Yeah. I have to just. You said something earlier, and I love this. Pick what's going to work. This kind of came up earlier in another conversation, and I feel like that's. I love what you said. You remember saying that? It's so good. Like, you have to pick what's going to work. Meaning, like, what feels good for you. We don't have to say yes to everything. Right. We have to just say yes to the things that feel good and that are. That feel right. And I think you're a really good example of that. And I love that, like, you talk about. The being outside part was hard for you, and I think that's why you're able to connect to so many of us that, like, maybe have, like, we're consumed in what we're doing that we do need to, you know, get outside, too.

Definitely. Definitely.

So. All right. Any parting words for everybody?

I can shoe you all outside.

Minutes. Grade and your teacher came in and said, it's time for recess, and you got to run around and be out there, and it's. It's a lovely thing. It will do you wonders.

Even if you hate it at first.

Just try it for, like, five minutes a day and see what happens in your life. Bonus points if you join Entrepreneurs Gone Wild and post a picture of you being outside doing something you love.

I love that. I love that. So good. Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much, Jude. This has been so fun getting to talk to you. I love being in your world. You've done a lot for me, you know, I mean, you. You really did. Like, still, I mean, constantly. And the way that you're able to. Anyway, there's a lot that I'm grateful for you for, which I'll tell you another time privately. But, no, it's really. It's really. It's when you're in a space with someone and the more you do stuff, the more you realize how much they help you. Is like the thing I think I'm saying is the dogs to connect, and you're like, oh, wow, that's been like. That's why this worked, you know, kind of thing.

Most neutral. I learned from you every time. So it's wonderful.

Oh, Sarah said she's going to head outside today. Wish she could find a crate.

So good. All right, you guys. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate you. And appreciate you being in this world as well. And do the thing. Don't wait for opportunity. Create it.

Bye.

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