Episode 260: Monica Moussighi: From Couch to 5K and Beyond

Hey, everyone. Welcome to the do the Thing podcast. This is your host, Stacey Lauren. Well, you guys, this is a fun day because my next guest actually met her at an investment mastermind that we went to last year in San Diego, actually, which was cool because it was in my backyard. And oh, my gosh, I have never seen anyone move as fast as she moved. From the time she decided she wanted to start a business to the time that she created the product to the time that after the Mastermind was over, I'm like, oh, my God, it's already out there. And then all of a sudden, I think we talked about the power of Facebook groups at the Mastermind, and then I'm looking at her Facebook group is going amazing, and she just started a challenge. So she is the ultimate do the thing person. All of this while having a full time career still and being able to manage it all. So I just cannot wait to learn more about her story and how she's doing the thing. So I'm excited to welcome Monica to the show. Hey, Monica.

Thanks, Stacy. Hi.

So it's so cool because I feel like you're all around my world right now because we met there at the Mastermind, and then I know you and Luis did an interview and then you guys did a live, and then I joined your group, and I've gotten to kind of see your progression. So it's just amazing how, I don't know, I feel like I'm seeing you step into your power. Really. You know, you had this experience as a attorney and all this stuff and all this stuff that's probably got your own power force, but now you're building this online presence. I feel like I'm watching it happen right in front of my eyes, which is so cool.

That's awesome. Thank you. Yes. And you play a big part in that. So thank you.

Oh, thank you. I'd love to hear just about you and your story and how you even started with all of this. So we could start with maybe your as far back as you want to go. We could go with the law and then kind of work it into what you're doing now.

Wherever you want to go, as far back as you want to go, that's dangerous. So, Stacy, growing up in an immigrant family, entrepreneurship was always the thing. Right. Nobody in my family in the generation above me held jobs. Right. They all came to the US in the 70s and started businesses. So that's kind of what I grew up with. Right. And it was always taught to me that if you want to make a difference, for yourself and your family, you need to be your own boss. Well, that I guess went in one ear and out the other because I went to college, got an engineering degree, worked as an engineer for a few years, and then decided I wanted to go to law school. So I did that for several years. I'm still doing that. And this. Then last year, around the summer, I guess, so I had started running last February. Like, right after I turned 44, I decided that I wanted to start the couch to 5k. And mind you, I'd started the couch to 5k at least six or seven times before that over the years. But this time I was like, you know what? It's like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do the thing. Stacy. I made a decision that I'm going to do the thing. And I was like, okay, how can I make it so that I don't fail this time? Right? Because other times it would either get hard or I would get sore or I would hurt myself. And I would be like, I'm just going to take a break. And then that break would be the next year. I'd be like, okay, I'm going to start this year. So last year I was like, okay, what can I do so that this is the year so that I don't fall off and I finish what I started? And I was like, you know what? I'm going to plug into a group. So I started looking for running groups on Facebook, and I started looking for friends that ran. I got William to start running with me. And it's amazing, the power of community. Just seeing in my Facebook feed other people who are running or starting out and doing well and running marathons and training, and just seeing that over and over, I think was just really powerful to me. So when I had a hard day or when I really didn't want to run, all I had to do was get on Facebook. And a couple of times, I think I even posted, like, I don't really want to go today. And then people would chime in, like, no, you can do it. Go. You've got this. You're on week six. It's too late to give up now. And so that's what I did. That's how I kept my story going. And then around the same time, I read a book by Ryan Daniel Moran, who is our mutual friend, and it really got me thinking that. And for those who don't know, the book is called 12 Months to a Million Dollars. That really got me thinking about entrepreneurship again. And I Dipped my toes in entrepreneurship over the years, right? When I was in college, I tutored for the SAT or when I was in my early 20s, I would arbitrage products. I would buy them and then sell them on ebay. So I would do things like that. But this time I was like, okay, so Ryan's book teaches to find a problem and solve it, right? So I turned inward and looked at my own life like, okay, what challenges am I facing right now? And the challenge that I was facing right then was in my running journey. I had all of the support that I needed to keep going in my running, but I was still having a lot of issues with pain. So I was having joint pain, I was having muscle pain. There were times when after a run I would come home and I would have to ice both of my knees and my hips so I looked ridiculous. I had an ice pack literally wrapped around my knees and like tied with a towel or something. And I sleep on my side, so I would have to sleep on one side and have an ice pack under my hip. And then when that side would go numb or sore, I'd flip over and do it on the other side. It was bad. So I was thinking, okay, so that's another issue that I need to address. So how can I do that, right? I have all of this support in the background making me want to run, but I have this pain that's still trying to slow me down. So that's when like, remember, I'm an engineer and a lawyer, so I'm nothing if not a problem solver. I was like, okay, I can fix this, right? Like mad scientist hat. I get on WebMD and I do a bunch of research to try to find the best supplements that I can take, right? I'd been using ice and heat and Epsom salts and, and ibuprofen and Aleve. But I was like, I want to find something that is more prophylactic than treating the pain, right? Because, well, a, my PCP is forever on my case about taking too much ibuprofen because apparently my kidneys don't like that. And so I found a few supplements that I thought would be good to try. So I just, I ordered them on Amazon. They came. It was actually exactly the things that you see on the supplement panel of Runner's Relief. So it was tart cherry extract, which I love finding things that are not obvious. And so tart cherry extract is an excellent anti inflammatory and antioxidant. And so that was the first thing that I tried. And then I was like, okay, so I found something that's exotic and out of the ordinary and maybe not everybody knows about. Great. But I'm also going to take glucosamine and chondroitin. Things that are tried and true. Everybody knows they're good for your joints, right? So I started taking those, and then I looked into everybody talks about collagen now, right? So I was like, okay, I'm going to figure out the collagen. But then the more research I did, the more it was like, well, actually ingesting collagen, your body doesn't really know what to do with that. So I was like, okay, let's look at this from another angle. And so I tried to look for things that would help my body make collagen on its own, which is what your body does anyway. And I found dietary hyaluronic acid. And everybody's heard of hyaluronic acid for skin care, topical, but you can actually ingest it dietary in the form of a powder. And it's not collagen, but it helps your body build collagen, so it lubricates your joints. Anyway, so I was taking all of these supplements, and it really only took a week or two for me to realize just astronomical benefits, right? It was going from having to ice my hips and my knees every night to not. Right. I mean, it was ridiculous, that. Almost not immediate. It took a couple of weeks. But the difference that it made because the same time I was on a couch to 5K program, so my running was increasing weekly. So up until that point, my pain had been increasing at the same rate as my running had been, right? So I'm running a little more this week. Ouch. My knees hurt a little bit more than they did the week before. And so for it to. Instead of the pain going up, for it to actually go down was huge. So I was like, okay, I cracked the code, right? I found it. I found what needs to be done to help my joint pain go away. But then the challenge I faced is I really, really dislike taking pills. And more than I dislike taking pills. I don't mind tablets so much. But the capsules, the ones that are like plastic and it's got the powder in it, those are just. They're so hard for me to swallow. And I was taking six or eight, right. A day. And I was like, okay, I can't sustain this. It upset my stomach. It. I don't know if you've ever tried to take eight pills in a row, but, like, you have to drink a lot of water to do that. And then it gave me this, like, full bloated feeling. Anyway, I decided that I wanted to try to find an alternative. So I was like, well, I wonder. Remember at the same time I was reading Ryan's book. So I was like, I wonder if something exists that is a supplement made specifically for runners. Right? Runners have these issues with joint pain. Runners also need hydration, they need energy. So I wonder if something like this exists. So I went and went back on my scavenger hunt and tried to find something that fit my needs exactly. And I found a few things that were geared towards runners and then a few things that were joint supplements. They were all also in pill form, right. So I was like, well, that's not good. I need to look for a drink. Like a drink mix, a powdered supplement. And then the powdered supplements I found were mostly just pre workouts or recovery formulas. But a lot of them had. Well, a lot of the pre workouts had a. A lot of caffeine, which I'm sensitive to. And really, I drink enough coffee anyway, so I don't need any more caffeine. And then they also had. I don't know if you've ever. Have you ever taken pre workouts?

I haven't, no.

So pre workouts, and I don't know what the ingredient is that does it, but when you take a pre workout, it takes about 30 minutes for you to feel the effects of it. And when you do, it's like your skin all of the sudden crawls. Like you get this tingling feeling. And interestingly, that's usually how I'm like, oh, it kicked in. Now it's time for me to go do my workout or go for my run. But it's not a good feeling anyway, so I decided that I didn't want caffeine. And anyway, the pre workouts really just had. It was caffeine and maybe some kind of creatine. I don't know. Things that were really more geared towards weightlifters, not really towards an endurance athlete, like a runner. So putting these things together, this lack of what I wanted to find in the market and knowledge coming from Orion and his group and his book, I was like, okay, well, this is a need. It's a need that I have. And if I'm feeling this need and this void, then I bet that there are other runners similarly situated to me who have the same issues and could use the same product. And so that is kind of how Mighty Moose nutrition was born.

I think what you're showing Is you just kept this open mind. Here you are starting to run at 44. Right. And then you're having your own struggles with running. So first instead of stopping running and saying, okay, running's not for me, you're like, okay, how can I make this work in a better way? And then you're researching, figuring out. You figured out the pills that did it the same time you got Ryan's book. It was not even intentionally. It was coincidentally. And then you're all of a sudden realizing there's this connection. So I think it just kind of is a good example of doing the thing by you doing something personally and then you're looking at something professionally. And then all of a sudden you see those dots connect. You mentioned the Facebook group and how everyone's in there. And I was curious, where did that come into play throughout this process?

Sure. Yeah. So I mentioned that when I started running, I joined several Facebook groups. Right. I joined ouch to 5k groups and I joined Houston running groups. And it was great. And I found great community and great support there. But what I didn't find was a community of people just like me. Right. So runners. My Facebook group is called running mighty after 40 and runners all have the same issues and trials and tribulations and things like that. But within this group of runners, runners over 40 have a more specific type of issues that they face. As we age, maybe we slow down or maybe we get injured easier, or maybe we have joint pain, or maybe our careers are at a point where it's harder to find balance and manage your time. So what I realized is that runners over 40 could really use a venue of their own to get together and discuss everything related to running as it applies to older runners. And so I wasn't sure that it was going to take. Right. When I first started the group, it was literally me and William. I think my mom joined and she doesn't even run. I think a few of my friends joined and I was like, do people even care? Is this going to be a thing? And then that was three, four months ago. And now we have, I don't know, 1400 people in there. And so I love it every day when I go in and I see all of the people engaging and being so supportive and helpful and helping each other, and it's really validating. Wow. People did need a forum to get together with like minded, like aged people.

Yeah. So you created it just out of your own desire to be around other runners that were like you. It wasn't even intending to turn into a business that happened kind of coincidentally, too.

Right, Right.

Yeah. It's so funny. That's how my story starts, too. So it's just funny how that works out. It kind of makes it where it's coming from, this internal personal fulfillment project, but now you're looking at monetizing it, which kind of makes it even cooler because then you get to do the thing that you like to do for fun, and then once you kind of figure out the secret sauce, it'll turn into something really amazing. Yeah. And so I have to ask you this question. So, as you know, Luis, he's one of the people in my do the thing audience accelerator program. So one of the things, he did my find your voice challenge a few months ago and found his voice, but now he's finding his voice in a different way through the community. Right. And one of the things, and I don't know if you guys have connected on this yet, but I think that's interesting, is that you mentioned coming from an immigrant family, and he's been talking to me about that, too, and that identity, that belonging that sometimes can come along with that. And so I have not that experience, but I have the belonging, identity, disconnection from other things. And I'm just wondering. I'm sort of exploring this idea of why we're craving this community and the people that we end up attracting also are craving that piece of it. I'm just curious if you've thought about that at all in terms of or explored that idea.

I haven't really spent a lot of time exploring it, but I did see a little bit of one of Luis's videos about how when he was growing up, he didn't really feel like he belonged. And that actually really hit home for me because growing up in the 80s, I was in a small town outside of Houston where I think I was the only person with a funny name. Right. I was the only one who wasn't just American. And so it was hard. And my family is from Iran, and my family came here in the 70s, but obviously in 79, there was the revolution in Iran and the hostage situation. And so as a kid, it was really weird because I was, I don't know, maybe six years old in elementary school. And I remember kids chasing me around the playground, pushing me into the dirt, being like, you're a terrorist. And I'm six years old. I don't even know what a terrorist means. I'd have to go home and be like, mom, what's a terrorist? I'd be like, don't worry about it. You're good. So, yeah, I totally get that, the not feeling a part of a community. And so maybe that does have something to do with how I crave community now and love building a community and being a part of a community, whether that be my running over 40 community or the community that I'm in with you and Ryan, or any other sort of community. So maybe there is some sort of a connection.

Yeah. And the reason why I bring it up, I mean, one, I'm curious, but the other thing is there's people listening that feel disconnected or lost or sitting on the couch and not wanting to get off that comfort safety zone. And I want everyone, I want to shout it from the rooftops. When you want to take action on something, it is so important to be able to find that group of people. And whether it's not even take action, you have a struggle, you have a goal, you have a common interest to find that group of people that are wanting to do it too. Because that's where this connection comes from. And something I've realized recently, it's even deeper than connection for me personally from my story. It's more of the safety, a safe space to connect. And I feel like that's what you're doing in your group. And I love how you. What is the word do you use? You said a word, dysfunctional family or something. It just shows that you have such a fun relationship with this group and you're showing up real and exactly as you are. It's this. Not to use by like high level whatever, but it is, it's vibrates like people feel that. And that's something. I'm speaking a lot to you because I'm really getting into this find your voice challenge. And I don't think people realize that's why your group's growing so rapidly and people are saying yes to what you're doing because they're so connected to you. Just showing up as you are.

I mean, that's the goal. Right. It's hard to show up any other way than as yourself. Right. Because I think it's clear to people, if not immediately, then eventually when someone is being disingenuous. Right. So I can always spot someone who's genuinely interested in me and my welfare and in this specific topic as opposed to someone who's less than genuinely interested.

Yeah, I think thinking about it too. Ryan, the one we were talking about earlier, he's the first person I saw actually that I can remember that really shows up in that way through his email and through the video. And that's what I loved so much about the book. He's openly talks about depression and all the things that entrepreneurs go through. And I feel like there's something really powerful about that level of vulnerability to be able to connect with someone. And I feel like I see you doing that too, which I think it adds to the value where everyone's feeling like they're in this safe space to be able to be in that group with you.

That makes me really happy to hear.

I'm so glad. I'd love to hear more about your challenge because you just started a challenge and, oh, my gosh, you started off over the top. Well, first of all, I was part of your very first live, so that was exciting. And then I saw you, and then you and Luis went live in the group. Then you did a challenge. You're doing a challenge, but it's not just a regular challenge.

You're doing.

Doing a really fun challenge. And I just love to hear more about how that whole thing started, evolved and just anything you want to share about, just even this experience with going live and then creating your first challenge too.

Yeah, sure. So I knew that I wanted to create a challenge, and I'd seen other groups launch challenges and I started brainstorming on what kind of a challenge I could do for a running group. Right. Everyone has seen the 30 day squat challenge or a 30 day plank challenge where we progressively do more. So I had a few ideas, and then, honestly, I don't even know where the idea of bingo came to me. I don't know if I had seen it somewhere. I don't know. Like, I have no idea. But when it came to me, I was like, wow, this is. It's actually a really good idea because it's not something that excludes anybody. A challenge that's like, oh, let's see if we can run 100 miles a week. Or I don't even know if that's possible. I don't run that much. Or let's see if we can run 30 days in a row or something like that. That's like time or since or consecutive days. It might exclude people. Right. If you're a new runner, maybe you can't run a hundred miles a week or a month or something like that. Or if you're traveling one day, you might not be able to keep up a running streak. And so that's part of the reason why the bingo challenge really appealed to me is because a, there are, I don't know how many different ways you can make a bingo. I could probably math it if I wanted to, but I'm not going to anyway. There's more than one way to win at bingo, right? Yeah. There's 25 squares. You just need five in a row. And so my hope is that there's something for everybody. And I printed out this is my bingo board, right. And so there's things in there that really you can cross off no matter what your level is. Right. If you're a beginner runner, you can still run along a body of water. Right. If you're a marathon runner, you can still run with a friend. Right. So I wanted it to be something that was a fun. And what's more fun than being able to shout out bingo in a room full of 1400 people? And I wanted it to be something that was attainable as well.

And then seeing you go live in your group for the first time, what was that like for you? That was.

It was a little nerve wracking because I couldn't. A, I blame it on being old, B, I blame it on the Mac. And so I couldn't figure all of the stuff out. I never did. I still to this day probably can't share my screen. I don't know how to do it. And so it was a little bit nerve wracking in that way. But otherwise it turns out that I love doing it. I loved seeing people comment and what they had to say and that they were so engaged and excited about it. So it was really cool. I probably. Maybe I'll make it a habit.

Yeah, I mean, were you scared to do it or nervous or how did you actually do it?

I'm 45 now and I've been practicing law for almost 15 years. And I still before, every time I have to A, get on a zoom call, B, appear in court, see, even make a phone call, I will get butterflies in my stomach. I will just think, there's no way I can make it. I'm gonna vomit. Even before this call, it was the same. I was nervous, didn't know how I was gonna do. It's like, this is gonna go terribly. I'm not gonna have anything to say. And now look at me, I'm rambling for 10 minutes at a time. And so, I don't know, I think it's just. I think I just have to accept that I'm going to be nervous every time I do something like that and just remember her and recognize that apparently I get over it pretty quick.

And I think this is so important. For people to hear. Because people would look at you now, right? Having done a live, and I think you had, I don't Even know, over 50 people were there that showed up, which is amazing. And when I did my first challenge, I heard you're supposed to do lives, blah, blah, all that stuff. And I couldn't. I was terrified. So I didn't actually do the live my first time. I did a zoom instead, because that felt more comfortable for me. And then once I did the zoom, then I got you get caught up in the group, right? Because the momentum of the people and them resonating with what you're saying, it lands. So then I started doing lives. But I think a lot of people see someone after, right. If someone saw you now, where. Who knows? You might be going in there every week you're 50 people plus maybe hundreds at some point, and they're going to see, oh, Monica's. I could never do that. That's what they're going to say. That's literally what they're going to say. I could never do that. But they don't realize where it started. It started with the guy. It started with the engagement. And then once you kind of got the energy, you're like, oh, maybe I could do a challenge. And then you're like, well, maybe I could do a live. And then it sort of evolves from there. It doesn't start at this place that they're going to be seeing you.

Right? Right. No, absolutely.

What do you think you would say to that person that's just kind of sitting on the sidelines and waiting and just looking at these people that are doing really cool stuff, like you saying, I could never do that. That's the most common thing I hear is like, I could never do that.

Right. Well, you're absolutely correct that I was that person that was like, I could never do that. Right. When you. Or when Ryan would say, oh, just post short form videos or post videos, do stories, do lives, I mean, I was terrified. I think. I don't know how long it took me. I would have to scroll back through my Instagram and see how long it took me to actually say three words in front of the camera. So I can totally relate to that. I could never do that. And I think it's just sounds so cliche. Just get over it. Just do it. But that's absolutely it, right? Like Stacy says, just do the thing. Do the thing. It's going to be bad. It's going to be awkward. Some people might make fun of you. You might look at it later and cringe, but just do the thing and eventually you'll get comfortable with it. I still don't know that I'm comfortable with it. I told you, I get sick to my stomach every time before I have to do it. Yeah, but it really helps to not take yourself seriously. So I don't know if you've seen any of my recent Instagram reels, but I just. I think I did the last one in bed with a nose strip and my hair in a top bun. I realized I needed. I had something I wanted to say, and that's what I looked like. And so that's how I presented it.

Yeah, I totally am the same way. And I think it's so great because a lot of times people have these thoughts in their head and then they either write them down or they don't. And then you're never going to record that, thinking that they're going to look better when they record. But if you just decide to just record and then decide if you're going to do something with it, that's my strategy is I'm like, I'm just going to record it, and sometimes it sounds too crazy and I don't do anything with it. But then there's other times that it actually makes sense, and then I'll post it, but just not worry. Worrying about that part of it, I think is really key.

Right. Because I think it goes back to what you were saying earlier about being relatable and not always presenting a polished Persona and just showing people that you're a real person. And sometimes you wear a nose strip and sometimes your hair isn't brushed, and sometimes. I don't know. But yeah. So just showing up as you are and showing people that you're a real person and you're relatable, and that's how I see it and how I get over the. Oh, my goodness, I can't believe I'm putting this out for the world to see.

How do you get over that idea of what people think or what people will say?

So that's actually something that I have only recently come to terms with, maybe in the last few years, like four or five years. And I know because it's kind of a joke now among my friends and family because they'll make some sort of a comment that alludes to, oh, but what will people think? And my response is always, I don't know those people. Oh, I love that.

That's good.

I don't know. William and I love Broadway shows, and so we sometimes will travel to New York and go see shows on Broadway. But when you're walking around New York, you don't want to be dressed nicely, right? So we are often in jeans and sneakers because we've been walking all around the city, and we still want to go see a show. And so sometimes he'll be like, but are we really going to go in sneakers? And I'm like, we don't know those people. We don't know these people. So just. That's been my mantra. So it's not really discounting other people's feelings, but it's just recognizing that those people. Right. The people that are external and that might be judging me don't really matter.

What is the biggest thing you've been struggling with that you've been having to overcome as you're building this business?

I think it's still putting myself out there. It's still putting myself out there. Even though I'm. I'm doing the mess. And even though I'm still doing the thing occasionally, I think it's still putting myself out there.

And so what's really cool about you saying that is that you're doing it still. So there's a lot of people that struggle with putting themselves out there, but then they stay hidden, Right. And every time you make this inch, it's like, when you went live with me and Louise, right? It's like, okay, I just did that. Okay, so now I'm gonna go live in my group. And then you went live in your group, and now you're like, actually, this is kind of fun. I'm gonna keep going live in my group. And then I forgot the Instagram reels. You did those, too. And so every time you're inching, it's almost like it's gonna help each piece. And I think that's really important for people to hear because you're speaking to something that so many people feel, but then they don't make those inches in those steps. And so that's where it just won't compound right now.

Right? Yeah, I totally get it. And you're right. Even though it's hard, I do do the thing. And so every time it gets a little bit easier. It's still not easy for me, but it's a little bit easier every time.

What is the hardest thing about putting yourself out there? What's that piece?

I think. I mean, and this might be too specific for everybody, but I think for me, recently, it's been. But do I have anything new to say? I'm Posting my runs. Great. But does anybody want to see my runs every day or every time I run or does anybody care? But the way I combat that is I just have to remind myself if they don't care, they can scroll right past it.

So, okay, time is here. Are you ready?

I'm ready. I don't know. Am I ready?

What is your number one piece of advice for people on doing the thing?

I think it's not to overthink it. Just do the thing. Decide what the thing is for the day and do it. Pick one thing and don't think twice. Just do it.

Yeah, I love that you just said that for the day because I think that's where a lot of people get scared, stuck. It's not knowing what that thing, the big, scary, audacious goal. And I really speak to just a rough draft goal. Just think of something that you want to go towards and then as you go towards that, that's when all these other things open up. Like what happened to you? You just wanted to run and then all of a sudden look at not what you're doing because you wanted to start running.

Right? Yeah. That's such great advice. Just in general, for life, Right. Don't set these big unattainable goals. Right. Someone wants to lose a hundred pounds. Setting a goal of losing a hundred pounds seems so insurmountable. Right. But if you just say, I'm going to lose two pounds this week or before the end of February, then you can do it. And that's something actionable you can do and get immediate results. Or I don't know. Have you read anything by Dave Ramsey?

Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's the same thing, right? You have a hundred thousand dollars worth of debt. Don't think about the hundred thousand dollars worth of debt. Think about this $25 balance you have on your Macy's card and pay that off. And then it's like one thing that's checked off. And so it's the same with this, right? Don't think, oh, I want a million followers on TikTok. Think I'm going to make one video today and it's either going to be good or it's going to be garbage. And even if I don't post it, I'm going to send it to Stacy for her comment. Right. Just one thing, a small thing.

Yeah. Please share where everyone can follow along with you in your journey.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. So if you are a runner over 40, my Facebook group is called Running MyDuty After 40 and I am on Instagram at running after 40 as well. And so that's it. Mighty Moose Nutrition. You can find me. Just Google me. I'm everywhere.

Yeah. And if you run over 40, join her Facebook group also and buy the product. Are you on Amazon? Are you on Amazon yet?

I'm actually almost on Amazon. So right now I have just a website that's on Shopify. It's Mighty Mostnutrition. Com. And I have a TikTok shop that's Mighty Moose Nutrition. So I am on TikTok shop, which is new and exciting, so that's actually pretty cool. Apparently TikTok does, because they're new, they're giving out crazy coupons. I think right now there's a 40% off and free shipping. So if you want to try it, now is the time.

Yeah, that's amazing. I wonder if they'll come up with Amazon at some point.

I think that's their goal. Wow. That is their goal. Yeah. Because they have such a big audience that maybe it'll.

Yeah, for sure. Well, thank you so much for coming on. This has been amazing. I appreciate. I think there's so much value that you shared during this interview. I'm excited to be able to share it with everybody. And for you guys, do the thing. Don't wait for opportunity. Create it. And hey, guys, have you checked out my Facebook group yet? Go to do the Thing community dot com.