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In this short segment, the speaker recounts a graduate‑school friend who, despite receiving a relatively generous stipend of about $11‑$12 k per year, struggled to cover living expenses and resorted to accumulating debt on six or seven credit cards. The friend’s plan was to rely on a future high‑salary job to pay off the high‑interest debt, and while he ultimately succeeded, the speaker warns that this strategy is risky because credit‑card interest rates are among the highest legally allowed. The speaker advises against depending on such debt to bridge stipend shortfalls and promotes a free dissertation‑help community for additional support.

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