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Unlock Leadership: Grow Inside Out, Achieve Success!

11 Aug 2025 · 2 min

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In this brief dialogue, two speakers share practical advice on transitioning from an individual contributor (IC) role to a leadership position. Speaker B recounts a personal experience at Uber, describing the dilemma of gaining managerial experience without holding a formal title and how taking on forecasting, enablement, and initiative work can de‑risk a future promotion. Speaker A expands on the concept of self‑leadership, using a sports captain analogy to illustrate that mastering personal management (daily, weekly, monthly) builds credibility, leading peers to look to you for guidance and opening pathways to formal leadership roles. Both emphasize a core mantra: "grow on the inside to grow on the outside," meaning personal development precedes external leadership opportunities, which in turn bring higher income and influence.

So my other mantra is you got to grow on the inside to grow on the outside.
And from a management or from an IC going to a management level, I had a manager at Uber who had me as a 2IC, very informal role early on back there. But the dilemma is, do you get the job without the experience or do you get the experience without the job? So this was if he had to do forecasting, enablement, initiatives that might take away from bigger strategic move-the-needle things for the team, there were things I could help with, pick up the experience for, and just get done. So I think anyone on the call that's looking to move from an IC to a leader, how do you pick up the experience without having the job so that when you are going for the job, You de-risk yourself as a hire because you've already done some of that.
For me, the opportunity really came— I grew up playing a lot of sport. And I found myself captaining my, my football or soccer team, depending on which part of the world you are in. But basically, and I found that essentially, the common pattern was from if you manage yourself well, That is self-leadership. You get to move to a peer leadership. And as soon as I started managing my day well, and I started managing my week well, and I started having good months and good quarters, and I made Club— it was my second year; I didn't get it in my first year because I had to work on— and I became a good rep. There were people who were looking to me on how, and that's what led to progression into leadership roles. But you've got to, you know, you've got to work on yourself before anyone else is going to take a chance on you. So my other mantra is, you've got to grow on the inside to grow on the outside. You know, you've got to have personal development, which will then bring leadership opportunity, income, and so on and so forth.