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Yeah, you leave the buttons to me sir.

Okay. What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Lead Fast podcast. My name is Daniel. Thank you for the applause there. I'm joined with Tommy Wofford and we will be leading you today in some really good and mysterious content. And I say mysterious because we're gonna start with cards. We're gonna start with cards.

Talking I knew it. We're gonna be leading them today. We're fastly. Oh yeah, some say rapidly.

In some cases. very rapidly. All right, what color do you want? I'm gonna let you pick the color just because I'm feeling very generous today.

Let's go with dark blue. I don't even remember what it is. I just remember it's a color.

Ooh, excellent choice, sir. Dark blue.

I don't even know what this is gonna be.

Okay, I'm gonna shift these up. Man, we just jumped right into the question.

I know it was like getting pushed around.

How are you guys doing?

Yeah, how are you? Let's let's talk.

Let's let them talk. Can we ask them questions?

We did at least introduce ourselves.

Which is, we had trouble with this.

Here, so let's do this. Let's start by asking them a question.

Okay.

So here's what I want you to do. I want you to write in the answer to this question.

Wait, writing like on an envelope and a letter?

Yeah, yeah. Do that.

Messenger pigeon.

Yeah.

Smoke signals.

Yeah.

No, no, no. So some on social media. So either IG or message us. Send us an email. Send an email to Daniel. @leadfastco.com. what is something many people understand about you?

Oh.

That would have been cool. I can't wait to see what that looks like. If I almost. I could have hit the camera.

You broke it.

It would have just sat there like on a very simple teleprompter the whole time.

That whole thing is hanging on by a thread. I have. I haven't been. I've been neglecting it.

Okay, let's fix that later.

Yeah. Don't tell my boss. All right, here we go. I'm gonna pick one for you because.

Oh, so I just get to pick the color, but then you get to personally choose the depth of the question.

I know you can handle it, so.

Let's go, man. I'm not scared of you.

Oh, me or the car?

I start crying until I start crying. Oh, okay. Let's hear it.

Yeah.

Where are you currently saying yes in your life when you really should say no?

God. Well, you know, I think so probably, like, if I'm being super candid and honest, here we go. It's a personal finance issue.

Right.

Okay.

So I I really want to pursue a lot of business things, and so we've got, you know. crowd safe. And we've got the executive producing with uncut and a couple of other things coming up. And then lead fast and all that provides here. And, and then we, you know, we have a retreat center that we're opening, like, 145 Acres there. And then we've got a private placement memorandum for, like, cabins and some other, like, vacation stuff. So we've got, and then crowd safe as well. So, you know, like, we've got, we've got this, you know, huge initiative for, like, COVID sanitization. And so there's a lot going on, right? And really, if I'm being candid and I looked at all the resources that it's going to take to successfully pull that off, I shouldn't be spending any money on any thing, period. I should probably be fasting three days out of the week. And not that there's a lack of resources, it's just the, like, if I'm gonna be a good steward and do all those things. And I just bought a new car. Yes, you did. Now, in fairness, I traded a expensive car in for a less expensive car and I took that cash and I'm redeploying it into businesses. So I just like to do so much and I rarely say no. And because I rarely say no to anything, the place that I can most quickly get myself into trouble is personal finance.

Did I witness that a little earlier today?

Yeah, maybe so. So Daniel and I have a beautiful setup here. We have a great studio and we were like, you know what? We need to get a little bit more depth of field. We need some fill lights for the back. And so if you can see, there's some color going on behind us. And we literally went to Guitar Center for one light.

Just one light.

Just one. We just literally needed one hundred dollar light.

That was it.

That was it. 1700 later, we come rolling back into the office with a full light rig and a PA system.

Yeah.

We almost didn't fit it on your car, too. I was afraid.

Yeah.

We had to make two trips.

So that's. But that's a great example of, you know, I said yes. I could have said no. There wasn't a compelling reason not to, but because my my yes is always first. It also opens me up to say yes to a lot of things that most people would say no to that actually end up better for me. You know, like kindness is a, like most people, most people don't default to kindness. Like when you see homeless people on the street, my default is usually to help them, not to not help them, you know, or when, you know, your friends are, you know, worried about finances or something. My, my My yes is always first, you know, so it's always like, you know, don't, there's no reason to worry about finances if you know me. Like, you should just come ask me and I'll help you. But it's also like, if I have a resource that anybody needs, any resource, not just financial, but there's no reason to be sad if you know me because you should just hang out with me and we'll fix that. And there's no reason to, you know, not be motivated if you know me, because if you know me, I'll motivate you. Like, so like, there's no reason, if you know me and you're not motivated.

Then you're choosing to stay that way. I could, another thing about you though, is you also know other people. So for instance, this bag on the table over here, I would say what, two or three days out of the week you come in with Chick-fil-A?

Yeah.

Because you know that's my love language. That chicken biscuit and honey mustard.

Yeah, so Daniel, we're getting ready to shoot this. We haven't had lunch yet today and it's, damn. What time is it?

It's almost two o'clock.

So it's almost two o'clock. We haven't broke break, Broke.

Broken.

We haven't broke for lunch yet. We haven't stopped doing this for lunch yet. And, and so anyways, Daniel's like, man, I'm hungry. And I'm like, I got donuts on my desk. You say less fam. And two minutes later, you're in my.

Office eating all the donuts. Because, you know, I love those.

Yeah, we got to keep snacks. We got to keep snacks around for Daniel. And we know that. So, but that's, that is a thing, though, where it's like, I don't say no a lot. No's not my first word ever. And, you know, I learned that from doing sales, from having a company that sold something, is that we would tell us, we would tell salespeople, never say no. And then, and a lot of companies like, well, what if the customer's just being unreasonable and they're asking for crazy? Sometimes you have to say no. No, you don't. You never have to say no to a customer. The answer is always, yes, but. Yes, we can do that. Yes, we can do that.

Oh, we're not good.

No, yes, but it may delay this other thing that we're working on. Yes, but it may cost more money. Yes, but it may, you know, extend your timeline or it may run past your deadline. Yes, you're making change orders and we can do that. We would love to do that, but it may be slightly more expensive. It may raise the project cost, you know, things like that. The answer, if you're in sales, if you have a business that serves other people, the answer is always yes. And the better off, you'll be so much better off, the more you can work no out of your vocabulary. The answer to your personal life, should I go back to school? Yes, but should I expand my business? Yes, but you just have to figure out the consequences to the yes. And if you can work out the consequences and there's value, then do it. But if you don't do the exercise of working through the consequences, if you just say no and you tell yourself no before you begin, You don't give yourself a chance to see your dreams happen.

Yeah.

So I think my, that's a great question to start with because I say no to very few things. I try to identify where not saying no will hurt me, right? So personal finance is one of those areas where if I don't say no more, I'll get to do less.

You know, I wanted to ask more questions. From the cards. I do have a question.

Okay.

This is a good transition. So you talked about how you told your team in sales, hey, do not say no. Yes, but I think that's interesting because you have to have a team, you put them in a position to where they have to think, like they have to adapt to that situation. And that's not like a lot of sales people, well, I don't say a lot because I'm not a salesperson, but a lot of sales people that I know It's more like a stick to the script kind of deal. And what you're doing is you're putting them in a position that's kind of unique. And so this piggybacks off of what we talked about a couple episodes about, you know, the five rules. From Miracles. From Miracles. I feel like you have to kind of have a miraculous team, if you will, like, you know, like put together. You can't just, hey, you're cells, you're this, you're that.

Right.

How do you identify that in people? What is your approach to that? I know you've got to be able to see it.

I know you've got to be able to pick that out. Yeah, so for me, this is my rule, just for me, this will not work for everyone. This only works for me because I know me, right? And some people that are like me, this will work for, but by and large, this is how Tommy does it, right? I look for capable people, and then I look for people who I know that I can inspire. if you are responsive to inspiration, like, that's a big deal because I know how to be inspirational. So some people aren't responsive to inspiration. Like, right? Like, nobody, they're not gonna be like, if you're the type of person who will get a birthday card and just shake it to see if money falls out and never read the card, probably can't work with me because I want people who want to feel, feel with the person who gave them the card, like, Oh, and they wrote a message and look, and that's, they get inspired, right? And the connection to another person is important to them. That would actually be a really interesting interview question as we look at bringing more people on. If you got a birthday card, are you the type of person that would, A, shake it to see if money falls out, or B, won't care if money's in it but want to see the message? Or if you give a birthday card, are you the type of person who just puts a dollar in it or money in it? or are you the type of person that and leaves the message, the printed.

Message, or do you.

And then signs your name. You already signed your name. Like, this is exactly what I was thinking. And you sign your name. You're like, why'd you give me a.

Card for your grandma?

A sympathy card on my birthday? That's weird.

Yeah.

Well, soon you might be sick. It's covid. You don't know. Who knows? Who knows?

So.

But, like, that's a. That's a good way to. So when I look for people, the way I develop, I feel like I can develop the miraculous, right? I can teach the miraculous. I can teach you how to. I feel like everyone is a miracle. Everyone has the capability to be miraculous. So it's not. It's less about spotting. That's what I was gonna ask. People, it's less about going, that thing, they have something magic about them. And it's. It's more going, I'll take 10 of you. You'll be bench players in other companies, and I can make you starters in my company because I can inspire you to be your best.

So everybody. you see has potential, like, for miraculous.

Right. And so then my early picks are always the easiest inspired people because that makes-- there's less hurdles then.

Right.

Like, you're super easy to inspire. Like, you are-- you're very talented and we're very lucky to have you, but you could be 20% less talented and I would still pick you early because I could inspire you. You're very easy to motivate, but I could inspire you to do better, to look to graphic, graphically design better, to educate yourself, to do all the things that you do. You're easily inspired. And so that makes my job as a leader easier, which means we all get to move faster. And I think that if you're a good, if you're a good leader, a good motivator, a good inspirer, then those are the type of people you have to look for early on. Right? So early on, once you've got a motivated, established culture, you can go out and hire skills. But early on, you have to really like hedge towards easily inspired. And that's how we do it here at Millviewer. That's how we've always done it. The other.

The other viewer.

Oh, geez, did I just say that? You did. That was my first company that we were way back in the day in my mind right now. I'm reliving All those early hires and how we worked that out. Like I was just going back as I was explaining what was kind of sort of coming to me. That's the testing ground.

Yeah, that's where it all happened.

But even like, so here at Leaf House, but early on in Milwaukee, we were like, that really was what we did. And then later on, five, six years later, we had 20 something employees and we had an established culture. We really did start looking for technical hires then. All right, we're gonna bring these people in. The reality is that none of those people lasted like the people we brought in for like technical only and they weren't they weren't really culture fits they.

Just never lasted Interesting let me let me ask you this. Why why did people why do people stop why do people give up like if you? Make it and you jump to the head of the company you're making millions or whatever I get it you can slack off if you feel like you need to do so but the people who just don't the people who are just still not even mid-level They're just entry-level at what they do and just don't have why well like I Can you, do you, have you thought about that before?

I think it's a lot of reasons, man. Like, they didn't, like, I had, I had parents that worked their fingers off, you know, like, my mom and dad are inspirational to me. My dad was a, a plumber. When I was growing up and then got a job at Michelin Tire, like, working just on the line, putting tires together, like, 12 hours a day, just, you know, working swing shift, then was gone at night, worked all night, worked all day, worked in the middle of the day, like, worked all these weird shifts. and for a long time, but worked harder than everybody else, outperformed everybody else. He's also the most competitive person on the planet and I'm number two. So but in one day he'll pass away and I'll be number one and the rest of the world.

I was going to make that joke, but I just didn't want to go there.

Yeah, yeah, no, no. One day, well, knowing my dad, he'll probably outlive me just to say he did it. But he, you know, he didn't stay on the line. He started, he became a trainer and then he became, you know, an instructor and then he he ran the testing and he, you know, in his career, like, went to Canada and Mexico, or I think Mexico, but looked at, like, sample, like, rubber for tires. It was, like, experimental and, like, all this crazy, like, new techniques and all this crazy stuff. But, I mean, he doesn't have a college degree. He doesn't have a engineering degree and doesn't, you know, all that stuff. My mom started as a bank teller and, you know, took early retirement.

During.

An acquisition, I think Wells Fargo was buying who they were, they were Wells Fargo and somebody bought them, I don't remember what it was, but took early retirement. But when she retired from the bank, she was like vice president of loan operations for like the South. And so like, but she doesn't only has a high school, she just outworked and she got promoted through the ranks with just, you know, when they were like, this job requires a college degree. and she still got promoted without one because she just outworked everyone else. And I think some of it is people don't have that example.

Right.

Okay.

So I've had a full-time job since I was like 14, 15. Like, you know, you know, I worked hard. I worked on Farms. I, you know, I I remember being 17 and 16 or 17, 16 maybe because I was already driving, but I got a job. I was. I needed a job. I just was trying to find one and. for the school year because the summer stuff had just stopped and went to McDonald's and applied, went to a grocery store called Winn-Dixie and applied and within a day got two jobs and I kept both jobs and I would work McDonald's and it was next door. And then I would walk over and work at Winn-Dixie.

I know it.

Wow.

And I remember going home my second day and going to my mom, like, why do people why do people complain about not being able to find jobs? I'm 16. I found two in one day. I just don't, I never understood that. And I kept both jobs for a while. And so until I started working swing shift as a high school student at Michelin, so I kept both of those jobs till then.

So.

So I've always, always had that example. And then some people, man, it's not an example. It's a choice. It's an entitlement. So, yeah, they had, they had a worse example. Like, I think you can not be an example or you can be in a bad example and that's worse. And our parents, they grew up with participation trophies and things handed to them. I threw my kids participation trophies away. I'll just throw that out there. I hate participation trophies.

You didn't earn that.

I hate participation trophies. But yeah, so we have this whole shelter your kids make them feel good all the time and then when the world makes them feel bad, they feel like everything's crashing down around them. and I didn't grow up with that example either.

Yeah.

I had to earn everything. My dad, we were playing a church league softball game one day, not even church league, like after church pickup softball. And I was playing second base. I was probably nine years old, 10 years old. My dad hit a line drive as hard as he could right at me, hit me in the chest, knocked me out. Like, I'm on the ground. I'm on the ground with, like, you can see the softball stitches in my chest. And I'm like, and my dad legged out a double before he checked on me, my mom. My mom came from the from the stands out where she was hanging out with her friends. Yeah, you know, she came from the stands, ran out and she was at second base before my dad was because he was busy running the bases.

Oh my God.

Yeah, got to second, made sure that it was time out and then checked on me.

Time.

Yeah, yeah. So but that but that's like that that mentality of like, we're gonna you're gonna earn everything and so anyways, like, that's a, that's another reason I think people don't get moving and aren't motivated is because they feel like the world should be handed to them.

Yeah.

No one ever told them the world is what you make of it. Right.

Well, I mean, I think also, too, people, like you said, entitlement, people who grew up with stuff never learned how to fight for stuff because I grew up with nothing. And so I think that's why I, like, I'm not fighting to keep learning just because it's like a race, you know what I mean? Like, you know me, any spare time that I have, I'm like watching a master class or whatever.

Like, I just want to learn. And for people watching, like, this is just fashion. It's. He grew up with nothing, and he's still wearing it. Actually, that's.

He read that shirt since he was seven. I ripped this on your door earlier.

Yeah.

So.

But for everybody else, I meant to do this. This is fashion. But, no, I grew up, you know, I think people who are entitled, once they get to a certain part of life, that entitlement can get yanked out.

From under them, and then they're like.

There'S nothing there for them to fall back on.

They don't have super. I think it's super confusing for people. Like, I under, like, think about all the rage that we see in our society right now. All the, all the Pro, not protest, because I, I believe in encourage and support the protesters.

Right.

But all the, like, rioting and looting and Ridiculousness that, by and large, is Being done by 25 to 35 year old white males. Let's talk about it for half a second. Yeah, like the rage that these guys are showing. Where does that come from? Like you're a 25. You're you are the most advantaged person in the country. Why are you breaking into a foot locker? You idiot. Like put down the TV. Like, I mean, honestly, like, let's talk about it. And then those guys that are out there yelling and throwing fireworks into crowds and look, there's that's that's a white kid.

Yeah.

And probably some Yeezys that his mom gave him and his black $80 champion hoodie. And by the way, champion for all you guys used to be a Kmart brand that you did not want to get out of the car with in middle school. If you had champion, you got beat up. and now it's this $100 sweatshirt brand that is ridiculous.

Talk about a comeback.

No, stupid. No, stupid. I'm not talking about it. But like, but that entitlement mentality creates so much rage because you feel so indignant to the world around you as if it should be giving you something. But you don't produce anything. You don't plant anything. You want it immediately so you're not patient enough to wait for a harvest. And that's just not how the world works. I know we're at a time where things are almost always instant.

On demand, yeah.

But even the on-demand stuff is just stuff that took months to produce that you're just now seeing. And if you don't believe that, start binge watching a show that's on Netflix, get to the end of it and have to wait a year for the next season to come out. It'll go nuts, you know, but like that's a big thing, right? Like we want everything on demand. I don't want commercials. I don't want interruptions. I want everything. Well, when you run to the end of it, you realize that none of this was actually on demand. It was all produced years ago. You just now got to it. But that teaches us this mentality that everything can be handed to us on demand. and so you want social justice on demand. Well, guess what? Social justice takes time, too.

Absolutely.

Yeah. You want political reform that takes time, too. And it doesn't happen by smashing in a foot locker. It happens by voting, right? It happens at the ballot. It happens every two and four years. It happens because you advocate every day. And if you're not voting and you're not advocating, then shut the hell up.

Yeah.

Stay out of the streets. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, no, no. It doesn't happen because you put on a, what's, what's guy? What's the anonymous mask? Oh, yeah, God, I don't know.

I knew what you were talking about.

The guy is his first name. It's a French guy. But it's like, it's not because you put on an anonymous mask that you.

Bought at a Halloween store.

Trust me, you've never hacked in. I didn't know if it had a name. Yeah, yeah. So it's V for Vendetta, that guy, the character from there. So, like, but you've, like, most of these guys found that at a target in the Halloween section, and they've never ever, the target that they just looted, probably, and, and they've never hacked anything. anything. Like, I think Anonymous actually does really good work. I mean, they expose a lot of things that we wouldn't know.

I have no clue what they do, but they.

But, like, at the end of the day, none of the people in these protests belong to that group. Yeah. Because none of those guys would ever.

Be in public like that. Right. Not ever, not once. I think if people understand the process.

Of that, this is gone, by the way. No way left.

This is good. Yeah, we are way out. We're already in the woods, man. Let's just Camp out here. The process of that, you know, you talked about on demand, like the whole on demand culture and stuff. I think people also have to exercise caution with that. Like, you have to understand the process. But I mean, I don't think people have to understand it doesn't happen overnight. Like, just because you can get an album overnight doesn't mean they just turn on a recorder and just spit out a beat, you know what I mean? It doesn't happen like that. And so, like, you-- I mean, only for Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift goes into the studio and comes out the next day with 12 new songs. Looking younger.

All kinds of stuff.

And it goes platinum in six minutes. Yeah, that kind of thing. But outside of her, it doesn't happen. Right.

And that's where I think people lose sight of what's actually happening. Because they're demanding everything now. They want everything now. And there is a process for it.

That's what life feels like. It's trusting the process always, but nobody wants to process.

No.

Everybody wants produce, but nobody wants process. We've talked about this a million times. It's probably the thing that I get most hype about. because I believe that the, I've got three kids and one of them's 11. He's my oldest, is about, about to turn 12. And I believe his generation has the potential energy higher than any generation before it because they're so connected. And maybe not real physical connections, but they have the ability to reach and connect like no one ever before. They have more influence than any single person in any generation's ever had, right? So each one person can carry so much more influence than they ever had ever in the history of the world. Like we're getting to the most influential generation ever. And then you combine that with they don't want process.

Yeah.

Then what's coming after them? Like what are they gonna be able to do?

That'S where the entitlement comes from.

They're gonna be living in rage though, because this frustration of, I want this instantly turns into, I can't have this instantly because you can't shortcut process. And that leads to bitterness and disappointment and rage and lack of self-awareness, but also lack of self-happiness, right? And so they don't self-actualize because they feel like the whole world is against them. because they couldn't get what they wanted immediately. And I'm just super worried about my kids and what the world is teaching them about. And so it's a lot of like counteracting that, right? Making my kids wait when they shouldn't wait or, you know. Yeah. Like you're gonna wait on this game. You're not gonna get it right away. I know that you have the money, but I'm telling you, you can't go buy it.

Right.

Because I'm not allowing it. Not to compare kids to animals. I mean, that's even when you're training.

Like I've seen dog trainers will place.

The bone right there and wait and.

Then make them wait.

And it's not about you having the power. It's about you teaching the discipline. And. Right.

Yeah.

So, buddy, you just diagnosed America, like, like, right.

Like, you hit the nail on the head. But, but I'm, but I'm so concerned because we're seeing a generation, like, we're seeing a generation that was less connected do what they're doing. What's this next Generation who's going to be more disillusioned and fed more garbage and fed more in misinformation?

Yeah.

Because there's no truth in media. I don't care what side you're on, there's no truth in media. Zero. And it's not about like, it legit at this point is not even about finding the fake accounts and shutting them down. It's about shutting them all down because there's no truth in media.

There's just none. Even the fact checkers, you know, I've seen fact checks that were wrong and it's like, okay, how did this happen? You know, you guys are supposed to be top tier here. So it doesn't matter what side you're on, you can't trust this media and I'm not on a side.

Like, I'm a centrist and so I'm gonna borrow from all the, I want all the good ideas.

You're a centrist. That sounds like a, like a medieval creature.

I've never heard that. Yeah, it's like a centaur and something else. I don't know. I was going somewhere that I thought was gonna be funny and I just ran out of metaphor. Sorry. Rarely happens, but it did just then. But no, no, I'm a centrist. Like, so I'm, I, I just believe I heard someone say, I can't remember who said it, but he said, I'm not a Democrat and I'm not a Republican because I don't enjoy being right. I don't enjoy being wrong half the time. And so, but like, so I just, I want to borrow all the good ideas. Do we need prison reform? Yep. Do we need legislative reform? Yep. Do we need to, for once and all and for all eradicate systematic racism? Yeah.

Yes.

Do we need to be conservative with our taxes and get less government in our lives? absolutely freaking Lutley. You know, so like, yes, yes to all the good ideas and then all the dumb ideas need to be called dumb ideas and you don't need to support them just because of what side of the aisle you sit on. I think that's ignorant.

Because if you sway anyway from that extremist view, left or right, you're just outcast, man. You just get, you know, you have to be one of the extreme, like polar opposite extremes. you can't sit in the middle. And that's probably why I've never heard the word centaur.

Yes. There you go.

Centaur on Pinterest.

Oh, thank you for completing that. I needed it. And I was like, I was reaching for it, but a Centaur on Pinterest is the best thing that could have been said today. I think, you know, that's what I'm.

Gonna think of you.

Anytime I hear the word.

From now on, Tommy in a Centaur suit, scroll through Pinterest.

Okay, so we've talked, like, 30 minutes now, but I, I want to just finalize this thought.

Right.

Because I, if there are people out there watching that have influence and have kids and care, I just want them to take into account this. Right. So really where this makes the biggest impact right now politically is not in our general elections. It's in the primaries. And this is why it's important.

I know where you're going with this.

The president doesn't make law. The Supreme Court doesn't make law. They oversee the lawmakers and they have the system of checks and balances. So the people we need to be thinking about in our country, making our laws, setting our standards, is Congress. when you, we, we can predict close to 80% of where seats are going to go left or right at this day and age. Right. So, so based on, based on our geographics, based on our geography, based on our political leanings, based on whether or not you're a red state, blue state, all those things, they can basically predict if you're, if your, if your seat is going to be Republican or Democrat. to 80%. Very rarely does a seat flip, you know, very, very rarely. So to 80%. So that means then really the race is in the primary, is in the primary picking which Republican, which Democrat. Well, the people who vote typically in the primaries are the most ardent people in that party, which are usually the most extreme people in that party, which means the most extreme candidates get elected or get promoted in the primary.

I mean.

In the race to become the candidate, right? I can't think of the word. So what happens over time, because that's true, your party gets more and more and more and more polarized because the most ardent supporters are voting in the primaries, the primary now promotes the most, the person who's going to win is going to be the most leftist extremist person or rightest extremist person. The most extreme views are going to get supported by the most Ardent people, and that candidate is going to be promoted by 80%. You know, they're going to go. And so now Congress gets more polarized. If we're going to ever fix our country, we've got to get more people that are like Community minded.

Yeah.

General election voters voting in the primaries. Because if you don't, if you don't balance that out, we're going to keep drifting to the polls and the gap between us gets bigger and bigger. And it's just math, ladies and gentlemen. It's just math. There's no emotion tied up in that for me. There's no right or left, right or wrong. I don't have any political leanings. That's just the state of where we are. We're going to get more and more polarized if we don't get more involved in the early part of this political system.

Yeah.

And no one does.

We're setting the stage now for future politics. Like it's getting crazy. It really is. No matter what side you're on, you sir sound like a centrist. If I had to guess, I would guess you're a centrist.

Yeah, most of the time it's like bathroom pins for like some remodeling. So I'll pin a lot of that. And then memes. It's mostly memes. I'll pin memes on Pinterest.

I see. I was showing McKenzie. Like a file or folder. I don't know what it is that I'm tagged in with you. But it's like, it's like motivation stuff. But then there's like, there'll be like a random car pop in there, like a car wrap.

Like, where you put in the wrong pin. I'm looking at, I'm looking at cars. Rest in peace, pumpkin bread. My entire Pinterest is cars are a LeafS Retreat Center. So like all the cabins and everything we're doing there. And then the houses that we're flipping.

So it's ideas for bathrooms. That's it.

That'S it. That's all I do.

Well, just remember, I'm in one of those random stuff pops up. Luckily, it's not like, like, weird random, like, okay, Tommy, I got to call you and talk to you about this. All right, we're going to end with a question real quick.

All right.

Not that one.

Okay.

Or that one. When these red cards, they will get you in trouble. You know what? I'm not even. I just read there were like five.

Questions there, and you're like, no, I.

Can read your future with those cards.

I appreciate you not ruining date night.

Got you. Oh, well, I know the answer to this. Okay. Besides what you just said, in two minutes or less, what does the world need to know right now?

Repent. Donald Trump might be the Antichrist. Who knows? No, I mean, like, honestly, what the world needs to know right now is that being right now, as we're all in panic mode, The, I believe it's called sicko mode. Sicko. Corey Travis Scott now. So, no, but right now as the world seems to be easily panicked, what it needs more than anything is for people to just step up and be kind, to love each other and take care of each other. There's gonna be a, I'm gonna be holding a lot of doors, letting people skip in line, paying for Starbucks from the car behind me. Like, the world needs more genuine kindness right now than it ever has before. because how else will we know that we're in this together? And the last thing that you want in a panic is isolation. That's when you start back, when you feel backed into a corner, that's when you attack. And so if we're going to create an environment where people aren't attacking each other, then we've got to be kind. You've got to show mutual respect. It's the one, it's, it's not the one, but it's one thing that I wish our current president would do is just show some more class, a little bit more respect and not fire back every time somebody throws a dart at him and quit trying to nuke him. Like that's his response. It's like, it goes incendiary devices get launched verbally. Very rapidly. Very rapidly. Yeah, like that's the, I mean, whatever.

It's, I'll quit talking about that before.

I don't want to make anybody mad. Yeah, I don't want to get nuked. This is gonna, we're gonna get, we're gonna get tweeted from some account later on. My account later on, sir. Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for listening to us ramble today. Today was one of those things where oh, look at you. Today really was one of those things where we sat down and we were like, let's, let's just kind of approach where our nation is and talk about whatever kind of comes up. So we rambled a little bit today, but it was fun for me. I needed to get some of that off my chest. I feel like that was therapeutic at some point in time. Tell us about our Instagram time. Well, we do have an Instagram, and it's, it's Lead Fast Co. @LeadFastCo. You can find us on Facebook and as of today, we have a tick tock. I don't know what that means.

Oh, we do.

We have a tick tock. Mackenzie set us up. So we're. We're good there.

Yep.

Go check it out.

See you guys next time. What's that called?

Nailing the post.

We just totally swapped roles.

Yeah, that was fun.