Episode 327: Saban

In this solo episode of the Above the Business podcast, host Bradley Hamner reflects on the recent retirement of Alabama football coach Nick Saban. Though an Auburn fan, Hamner admires Saban’s success and extracts five principles that he believes translate to small‑business ownership and entrepreneurship: (1) Process‑minded thinking – obsessing over the day‑to‑day actions rather than outcomes; (2) Culture – building a competitive, high‑expectation environment; (3) A‑players – recruiting and retaining top talent; (4) Standards – setting and enforcing high performance benchmarks; and (5) Consistency – delivering the same effort and mindset every play. Hamner frames each lesson with anecdotes from Saban’s early years at Alabama and ties them to practical business advice. The episode also contains two sponsor reads for Club Capital and Coach P Consulting.
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So number 1, process-minded thinking. Number 2, culture. Number 3, A-players. I mean, at the end of the day, you can look at the recruiting that they did before Coach Saban, the recruiting that they did once he came on campus and for the rest of his time. I did not go before this and research, but I don't know if they finished outside the top 5 in many years, really the top 2 in recruiting each and every year. You can make a lot of mistakes with coaching and, and, and even decisions, but when you have, in football language, 4 and 5-star guys, you can go a long way. And so he had the Jimmies and the Joes, and of course matched it up with incredible coaching with X's and O's. And so with A players, I'm going to say that it was both the players that he had on the team But it was also the quality of the coaching staff. So many of the coaches came in and have— you've seen the Saban coaching tree if you keep up with sports, of course— have gone on to be very successful head coaches, obviously, famously Kirby Smart, Steve Sarkisian, who's at Texas now, et cetera. So those are 3 of them: process-minded thinking, the importance of culture, and specifically, I saw a culture of competition. Number 3, A players, both on the players and then also with the coaching staff. And number 4, standards. There was just a standard of excellence that they had. And again, that made its way in the standards that they had with recruiting, the standards that they had in every single thing that they did. And if you, you had to kind of read between some of the lines and hear some of the things, but in the building, everybody, the standard that they had to operate, there was a certain way of doing things. At Alabama. I've heard, uh, there's a— but maybe I'll share it on here at some point— of Jeff Bezos and Amazon. And when you are a high executive, you go into Amazon, there's just a way of doing things at Amazon that's just part of their culture and their DNA. But there's just standards of how they do things and even how they run some, some of their meetings. And there were certainly standards at Alabama. And then number 5, consistency. I'll turn this over to Auburn here for a second, but I've actually heard Bruce Pearl, Auburn's men's basketball coach, say often that, you know, it was one thing for him to turn around the bottom of the barrel SEC basketball program as he did at Auburn. It's one thing to do that, and that's not easy, but it's a lot easier than staying on top and being consistent over all those years. And I think that that consistency goes back to all of the other things that I mentioned— process-minded thinking, culture, A-players, and standards. And so I wanted to try to draw— and I'm sure from a football perspective, if we brought, you know, Greg McElroy, Colt Kubelik, and some of the Kirk Herbstreit on here, and we were asking very specific questions around football, that they would give some things. And I don't want to dismiss those, but I wanted to think for me personally, but maybe for all of you, what are some of the things that I learned, uh, and can look back on? And even with my, you know, dislike of Alabama, um, what are the things that I can distill or take away from Coach Saban's time? Because it is— he is without question the greatest football coach, college football coach of all time, even if that's hard for me to say that. And so process-minded thinking. There was just a process, the way that they approach their work. Number 2, the importance of value of culture. Number 3, how important it is to really have A-players on your team. Number 4, standards. There's a standard of excellence. And then number 5, being consistent over a long period of time. Maybe that gives you a couple things. It's certainly even just writing it down in my notebook and journal and thinking about doing this podcast. And I, certainly debated it, uh, over a period of time. But yeah, I said, you know what, uh, I can hold both things, uh, at once. I want to share that with all of you. Artywon, till next episode, lead well. Oh, and by the way, War Eagle.










