#133: Creating Real Wealth With Dame Doria (DC) Cordova

I love being here. Thank you so much.

Yay. It's probably a good 10 years about now that you and I first met, which was just wonderful. So I know a lot about you, and maybe some people that are listening have heard your name before, have maybe read a book or studied under you in the Money and You programs or something like that. But what's something that I didn't include in my opening description that you would love for people to know about you?

Oh, I was destined to work with world leaders and different kind of leaders to support them And leverage my purpose through them. So like in 1984, I had the opportunity to meet Fidel Castro. Later in the 2000s, I met the head of Malaysia, Tun Mahathir, who is now the prime minister again. So I'd like to go to people that have tremendous influence and personally support them and leverage my purpose.

Resilience. It's the unsung hero in every success story that you will ever hear about. And in times of massive change and disruption, the kind of rapid change that we're all experiencing as leaders, as business owners, as entrepreneurs, we have to learn how to not only increase our own resilience but that of our teams. So right now we have a powerful opportunity for you to find out just how resilient you are. Some years ago, my team and I created the resilience assessment that That more than 5,000 business leaders across the globe have taken. And all you have to do to get your own free resilience leader assessment is go to resiliencerank.com. It takes less than 3 minutes, and it's our gift to you for being the leader that you already are. Other free resources and tools will accompany your score instantly. So go to resiliencerank.com and find out just how resilient you are. And I think there's a lesson in that because some of us, many people I think are wanting or they're seeking a way to play a bigger game. Like, that's their part of what they tell themselves. I've got to play a bigger game. I've got to play a bigger game. And they get stuck or stopped by the fact that maybe they don't have influence themselves. They don't have a big platform or way to be some massive change in the world. And yet, what you've done is you've been able to leverage some of the access and the celebrity and the influence of people to be able to have your purpose be bigger than it would have been if you just tried to do it all on your own, right?

Correct. And I am not famous in many circles, not like my old partner, Robert Kiyosaki of Rich Dad Poor Dad. He was my business partner for 9 years. So a lot of people know his name, know the book, but this is something else to be learned, that there are people like myself behind pulling all the different strings and making sure that everything happens. So you always want to find out who's the power behind the power. And that's what I've done. And that is actually one of the things that I look for when I meet somebody very influential or very successful. I say, can you tell me who is the person that's really running their lives?

Mm-hmm.

And I go to them and learn from them or have them introduce me or, you know, or do the work. That has been one of my keys to success.

Wow. It's interesting. It's reminding me of something that I wanted to talk to you about today anyway. So this is one of those divine interventions, I suppose. When I'm keynote speaking, which is something I do quite a bit these days, is stand on a stage with a corporate audience and share a message usually about creating resilience and how people within those organizations can not only be resilient for themselves, but how they can help the company build resilience as well. And how they can really make a difference. And typically what I'll do is I'll share a story of a gentleman by the name of Buckminster Fuller, whom many people have never heard of. And it's interesting to me when I mention him how many people have not heard of him. And I'll say, well, you know, he's also known as the creator of the geodesic dome. And then they look at me and go, okay, I still don't know who the guy is. I go, you know, the dome at Epcot Center. Oh, that guy! He created that? Wow, that's incredible. I said, huh. So, it's a way to sort of introduce his name, but I mean, he was a genius. He was a futurist. He was a philanthropist. He was a person that just really was thinking so far outside of his time or the restrictions of the technology and what was available and that he had access to it in that time. And I know that you spent a lot of time speaking with and working with and being mentored in proximity to Bucky Fuller. I want to get into that. I want to find out about that because I typically tell this story about how he was studying how big ships turn and how the big ships had this big problem, which was that they weren't able to turn very easily. They weren't very agile, right? Because they had a big giant rudder that would be turning these big ships, but it was slow until someone created this little rudder that sits on the big rudder. And when they had the little rudder turn the big rudder, the big rudder would more easily turn the big ship. And that little rudder is called a trim tab. And Bucky talked about the trim tab factor and how sometimes little things in life, the little things can have a big difference. You can call it the law of small differences or the butterfly effect. And in pivot language, we just talk about a small change in direction can create transformation over time. So what can you share with us about your relationship and what you learned from Bucky Fuller?

Buckminster Fuller was also a mathematician. And he was a thinker and an author. And he was the man that was named as one of the top 100 by Time magazine. He was known as the Leonardo da Vinci of the 20th century. And the reason why a lot of people haven't heard about him is because we haven't caught up to him yet. But he was the type of gentleman that made over 50 predictions over 80 years ago now. I keep saying 70 years, but the years just go by, and 49 of them have come true, and most of them are mathematical. And so he was the gentleman that really tapped into the aspects of me of understanding sufficiency. So we live in a world that really experiences scarcity, and we have our economic engine of the world is still run from scarcity, literally, still that we're trying to manage having scarce resources when that is so not true. That changed in the '70s. So that was his big conversation. So once you really understand how to live in a world of sufficiency, then there is a simplicity to life and an experience of tremendous wealth because you get very present to what is in front of you. And then from there, we can have abundance. So I had the opportunity to sit in front of him with 1,000 people behind me in 1977. And he said so many things that I had never heard before. And that was when I committed my life. And I was so young. We had the Hunger Project and I had my business that I was— I was a court reporter at the time. I grew up to be an attorney like you. And then I had an opportunity to kind of pivot into a whole other life, and I ended up retiring. And I was very good with money because I had been in the legal system by then for nearly 8 years, and I had learned from masters of money and business without knowing any of that. And then when I began to learn more and more from Buckminster Fuller and attended the first business school for entrepreneurs of his kind, which I ended up inheriting. He also was invited to that, and he became our mentor and teacher for the next 5 years. He came and we studied with him. I sat at his feet. John Deming called him the grandfather of the universe, and he was like this grandfather that would just share information with you that was so advanced. Honestly, it took me years and years and years to understand it. But I did feel that when I would listen to him for 5 hours, 10 hours, sometimes 12 hours, when he was teaching us, that there would be something that would shift within me, something that he called the Phantom Captain. That even if you don't have a logical understanding, a conscious understanding, there is a part of you that has total— we grok it. It introduced this word called grok, which means to really understand the essence of something. And so I was able to really have an understanding of these principles that really run your life and run everybody's life.

What's the word again, DC?

Grok. G-R-O-K.

G-R-O-K, which translates to— or how did he—

Really understanding the essence of something.

Yes.

It's that when you really get something in every part of your being, sometimes people experience that when they fall in love. And they connect so deeply with someone. But I feel like, for instance, you, Adam, grok love, and you grok collaboration, and you grok that these principles that you know work. But how do you know that? Because you haven't been around for hundreds and thousands of years, but yet in your heart of heart, you have the essence of that. And that's what Buckminster Fuller did. So he would teach us—

And that's the phantom captain that you're talking about.

But the phantom captain is the one that has a total understanding.

That has that knowing, yeah.

That knowing. So Buckminster Fuller would teach us things that were true in nature or in physics. You know, like bees seek honey and human beings seek money. Okay? But really, he taught us this beautiful principle of precession.

I was going to ask you about that. That's so wonderful. Tell us about what precession is. Is it a law, by the way?

Generalized principle, yes. A generalized principle is something that is true at all times, always. Gravity is a generalized principle. Leverage is a generalized principle in the physical universe. And also, of course, and people have an understanding of the word leverage, in terms of money and in terms of— now we have really expanded that word that you can leverage teams and people and time and money and resources. But originally the word leverage was actually only used on Wall Street and in financial circles. But that is a generalized principle. And then precession is— the definition really is the effects of bodies in motion on other bodies in motion. Which actually is the physics term for ripple effects. So it's like when you throw a pebble into the water, you will have these ripples. If you really focus on as close as you can to your purpose in life, your true purpose in life, the precessional effects, the 90 degrees, the ripple effects of your life will be very positive. You will add value to humanity. But if you look at your life as a human being and everything is not working, you're not making money, you're not healthy, your life sucks, basically everything is just going horrible, you really need to stop and look. What is your purpose? What is the purpose in your business? What is your purpose in your life? Are you being honest with everyone? Are you really going for the highest purpose that you were meant to do? And that's what people do in our programs, in your programs, and so that they stop and they go, wow, maybe I should pivot this way because what I have been doing all this time hasn't been working. So that's why we are known for the last 40 years to really teach human beings these generalized principles combined with sound business principles. And then you combine the two and you create wealthy human beings who are adding value to humanity.

If you were going to convince somebody that has been living in scarcity since earlier than they can remember, right? Because it may have been what was around them and modeled to them in their homes. So they learned it from their parents or others, and they've been living in scarcity. What would you say to them? I mean, you get the opportunity through, as you say, through the programs over a period of days to sort of peel away the layers of why it is that people are programmed to think the way they do about money and about other things. But right now, in this moment, somebody listening, somebody watching this on YouTube and saying, you know what? Yeah, I always feel like there's not enough. I grew up with people around me saying there's never enough. We can't afford it and there's never enough. And even now, no matter what the economy might be doing and how many people might be getting very, very wealthy at the top, I still feel like I don't have my fair share. What do you say to somebody in regard to pivot in perception from something like scarcity to sufficiency?

I don't know if I can do it in a conversation because I have had this conversation with many people. And one of the things that I have found about human beings is that they will fight for their limitations. And my old partner, Kiyosaki, taught me a saying that's very old. Don't teach a pig to sing. It annoys the pig and it wastes your time. So having said that, there have been some people that have been very receptive and when I have had an opportunity to talk in depth to them. And so at this particular point, I go into conversation like, do you realize that there are 2 key things to get out of that circumstance? One of them, are you spending enough time in income-generating activities on a daily basis? And number 2, are you creating systems? Do you have a product or a service in your life that you can leverage? So there's 2 things that people that have very little don't understand: income-generating activities and leverage.

Hmm.

Once you pivot people into that particular mindset and to particularly look at that, then you begin to have an opening and they go, oh, What is leverage? So now we kind of move, we pivot from scarcity to leverage, where for some reason people's brain, people's minds are conditioned so that they can understand it a little bit more. And then we can take them back to scarcity. But scarcity is a very scary thing for most human beings. So I kind of pivot them away from that, talk about something that they can really manage.

Mm-hmm.

And then at a later time, I can take it back to them. It's almost like I have been talking to heads of universities, to ministers of education, to prime ministers about the educational system, that the world has no educational system in the world that works for everyone. Would you like your country to have an educational system that works for all your community, for your citizens? They always say yes, but the minute that I start bringing in different things, they will get very defensive. So I have learned through the years to begin to— like right now, if you're listening to this and you're really set and very solid on a certain perspective of way of being, that is the thing that you need to start opening up and saying, is my life really working? At the level that I wanted to work? Do I have all the money? Do I have all the health? Do I have all the love that we live

for? Wow. The pace of change over the last couple of years has been rapid. And if you're a leader, a business owner, an entrepreneur, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Every day it's something different and something new. But the one thing that I've learned in performing at the height of all of those roles has been that we must be resilient. In fact, it's the unsung hero in every success story that you will ever hear about. And it's the reason why my team and I created the resilience assessment that more than 5,000 business leaders across the globe have taken. And all you have to do to get your own free resilient leader assessment is go to resiliencerank.com. It takes less than 3 minutes, and it's our gift to you for being the leader that you already are. Other free resources and tools will accompany your score instantly. So go to resiliencerank.com and find out just how resilient you are.

Relationship? And if the answer is no, then we are stuck in some way and you need support.

What I heard you say earlier was that people will argue in favor of their limitations. What do you mean about that? Unpack that, if you will, just a few more moments.

Well, what they do is that the way that the brain works is black or white. We literally have— we're run by a computer in many ways. And so it's either black or white. And so one of the things that I learned very young, you really need to ask yourself that question. Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? And at that point, you begin to have an opening. You have to have such mastery, and we need to move into that area a little bit more, which is that you really need to move into the aspect of how much mastery do you have over your emotions? How much mastery do you have over your ability to be able to make changes so you truly have a life that works for you? Because I can't really work on the world until I work on myself first. And this is very difficult for many to understand because our whole system of education, of business, and of life is not designed for that.

Well, it's based on competition, for one thing, right? So that's embedded in competition, which competition has been called a virus. And I think it is in many ways a virus. It's one where someone wins and someone loses. So scarcity is already a part of the Equation or the paradigms. Do you agree with that?

Absolutely. And there is also healthy competition if it's in the context of that, if people end up collaborating with each other and the end result is going to be for the good of all. So not all competition is bad. There is healthy competition. In our program, sometimes we put people temporarily into competitive situations, but the end result is going to be Collaboration with each other and making the world work for 100% of humanity. Yeah. So if you have a product or service that in any way, shape, or form is hurting someone, hurting the environment, or hurting something, then you need to really pivot out of that area and move into a life. I mean, it's not easy. This is something that I want your listeners to really understand. But the results are so magnificent because then you begin to experience sufficiency in every area of your life so that you can live the life of your dreams.

I love where this conversation is going, and I'm going to ask you a funny question. It seemed like out of left field, but do you play tennis?

I used to when I was much younger.

All right. So you used to play tennis. So there's a book that you may have read. It's a really incredible book that came out in the early '70s, and I can't remember the author's name, but the name of the book is The Inner Game of Tennis. I think it was Tim Gallwey, in fact, and it sold many millions of copies. Here's a tennis instructor who penned a book about, really about philosophy. It was a book about mindset. It was a book about, in some ways, is sort of a Zen philosophy book. In that book, what I thought was really cool was that he said that competition, that healthy competition, is competing with the intention and even the hope The prayer that the person on the other side of the net that you're playing with is at their very, very best. That, that's when not only will you be at your best and win, lose, or draw, you'll feel good about it, but the entire thing is a positive experience as opposed to being on the other side of the net and hoping and praying and wishing that the person fails, that they don't succeed, that they double fault kind of thing. I think it's an important distinction because you said Even when we're in competition, how it is that we look at that competition and what's that endeavor drawing out of us in the process is a big deal because if you're willing to cheat and lie and do whatever it takes, or even if you're not doing those things but if you're sort of wishing for your competitor, whether it's a competitor in business or in sports or anything, but you're wishing for them to fail so that you can succeed, we've got this sort of a termite in the woodpile to start.

Correct. Well, let me just say we have an 8-day program, which is a business school for entrepreneurs that originally was 6 weeks long that I attended, then 4 weeks, then 2.5 weeks. Now it's 8 days. We kind of set the standard in the world for very fast business schools. And we have competitive physical games in there and we do it for a reason. And like, for instance, we used to play rugby. And one of the reasons was because, you know, with rugby, You have to pass the ball backwards in order for the whole team to move forward. And everyone knew that— everyone knew— they knew that if I was going to play rugby with them, that forget sweet Doria. Forget her! Okay, we're playing a game, right? We're all clear, we're playing a game and we are going to get the ball over there. Look out! And it was so interesting because we were actually playing certain sports We do running now and swimming, but we have played rugby in the past. And I literally, I remember, 'cause we played men and women together, I literally went in between the legs of this big guy, and I was just like running with the ball and went in between. I mean, everybody was laughing so hard. They couldn't believe I would do that. Hey, I was playing a game, right? So that, when you are very clear about what game you are playing, And business and life is just like a sporting event. I'm glad you brought up tennis.

Mm-hmm.

Because let's take football, okay? So in America, you have, you know, you see it, you have the rules, you have the players, you have the coaches or the people, the referees, then you have the spectators, and then you have all the stuff that goes with the spectators and the TV and all of that. That's exactly how business is. So one of the key things that we also teach in our programs is a thing called the rules of the game. So when you're very clear about what game you are playing, what are the rules of the game, what are the consequences, what can happen, what are the risks? And then, so what most human beings do is they pretend that they are not that knowledgeable, or they don't know some of the rules, and they're hoping they're gonna get by, and some of the games that they choose in their lives are very dangerous. They will risk their savings, their money, their families or marriages, their spouses. They will risk all these things without taking into consideration what are the rules of the game, of the game that you're choosing to play. Once you become this really conscious being and you begin to have mastery over yourself, You begin to really have an understanding on which game you're going to participate in and how you're going to do it. And part is understanding that the minute that we're going to attack another, the minute that we're going to hurt something, the minute that we're going to hurt the environment, that that particular game is too risky.

Yes.

And this is where humanity is right now.

So as we're recording this podcast, there are thousands of fires that are burning in the Amazon right now. So this is something that's happening in our environment. As you said, when people are willing to do certain things and sort of violate the rules, as you say, of the game, whether that's the broader game of humanity even, there are consequences. So I know that this is something that's very, very important to you, that renewable energy is a very important thing and something you're extremely passionate about. So, take a couple of minutes, if you would, and just share with us because obviously you've been very successful in your business career and you've been educating people for a long time so that they can acquire some of the skills that you've been sharing. This has been a pivot for you out of that sort of education space into something that's more about the future of our planet, which is where we began this particular podcast. So, What can you tell us about renewable energy and the work that you're currently doing there?

The leading solar architect, his name is Wang Ming, and he created the only solar valley of its kind on the planet. It's called solovalleychina.com. And he was the man that passed the first green law in China. He has been committed to the greening of China and the world way before it was in vogue. And I had an opportunity to be introduced to him 11 years ago. And the original environmentalist was Buckminster Fuller. So I had been an environmentalist younger than that. You know, I was a little bit of a hippie. I was a hippie for 2 weeks back in 1969. I had to shower all the time. So—

You made a bad hippie. You got to be too clean.

Very bad hippie. I showered twice a day.

You're too beautiful for that.

Oh, but it was fun. You know, I was a love child. And so at that time—

What was the man's name? You talked about the solar— This project.

Wang Ming. And if people go to solovalleychina.com, they will read all about him. So when I met him, it was love at first sight with a whole group of people. And I had an opportunity to travel with him and his wife. And he had an epiphany 33 years ago. He was one of China's leading oil industry engineers. And when he held his baby for the first time, and you can relate to this being a father, And held his little girl, he realized that there was going to be no world for this little girl. He literally pivoted into solar. And he didn't call it an enlightenment experience or anything. It was just, this is what happened. So by the time I met him, he has won the Right Livelihood Award, which is like a Nobel Prize for doing good. And they actually have dinner with the Nobel laureates. It's an event that happens the night before. It's not as famous as the Nobel Prize, but it's just as prestigious. And one of the things that he happened to know are some of the world's leading scientists. So I traveled with him in the year 2014, and I'll never forget this. And his friend, one of his very closest friends, is one of the top leading scientists who has an endowment of $20 million At the South Florida University, SFU. And I was taken into a renewable laboratory, if you want to call it that. And it was so amazing because all the top scientists, by the way, were Asian. And I asked immediately, he was Indian, Wang Ming was Chinese. You know, it's very hard to find scientists that are Americans because of the education that they get. It's hard to find them. that in itself kind of proved everything that I've been about education and not being adequate. You know, the book Rich Dad Poor Dad is really a work based on our work because I truly— that's what I've been working on. But to make a long story short, I had an opportunity to see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears the shift that is going to happen from really having carbon, you know, hurting chemicals and what was going to happen with renewables. And there's going to come a time very soon in the future where it's going to be much cheaper to do renewables than it's going to be fossil fuels. But the resistance that's going to happen is going to require for it a lot of even greater lying, greater misconceptions, and people really standing in their own authority that fossil fuels is it. but it's gonna take off. And then I realized from a scientific point of view, because I have to tell you, me and Wang Ming and the interpreter were— excuse me for saying things— the dumbest people in the room. I had a lot of really good money to really do research, and they're scientists, they're not about the money. And so it was there in 2014 when it was anchored from a left-brain scientific point of view that renewables are going to be the future. but also that there was gonna be such resistance. But it's the only thing that's really going to save our environment. I just went to a thing called Our Day, ourday.net, which is my yearly pilgrimage to Colorado where you have the top, most unbelievable scientists and business people that learn and study this. And we have literally maybe 20 years where the seas are gonna rise 25 feet. This is no game. This is not somebody exaggerating. We are completely going in that direction. So for me to see it from a business point of view, what are the business opportunities? There's all this industry, there's all these green jobs, and we're going there. So you might as well jump into the ship. It is crucial that every human being does from the little tiniest thing into really creating businesses and organizations where they can be wealthier beyond their dreams and create a beautiful environment.

Doria, that's beautiful. Thank you for that. I would love to know how it is that you create the environment of your mind. So we know that more than any other law that I can think of, that I believe is what we can feel the direct impact of it every day, is that what we think today is what we produce by way of experience tomorrow. Would you agree with that?

Absolutely.

All right. So I would love to understand, and I know that the people in our community love it when we share the kind of rituals that we have, the things that we do on a very conscious level to start the day. So let's begin with your— do you have a morning practice of some kind?

Well, I have been now for 10 years without missing. I meditate twice a day. I'm a Transcendental Meditation practitioner. I do that. And then of course, I also have Physical things. I start off with lemon juice, a little bit of lemon, water, lots of water to hydrate. You know, we've been sleeping for whatever number of hours, so all the organs are ready for the water. And then I drink Kali tea, which is a healthy tea, and my greens. So that takes a couple of hours and that will keep me— exactly. My greens will pH my body.

I'm holding up my green drink for those of you listening going, why is Doria laughing? Well, I've got my green drink here. A little late in the day for me for that, but—

Never too late. And then I can then an hour later have breakfast. By then, sometimes it's mid-morning, and that keeps me thin. And so that's one of the things. And for me, look, everyone should take at least once a day and close their eyes and check in with themselves. This is where you really get to go in and say, what's happening? Tune into yourself. That's why my program is called Money and You. It's more about the you part that will then generate the wealth and have the experience of sufficiency.

So I didn't plan on asking you this, but what does meditation look like for somebody that may say to themselves, hey, I can't quiet my mind, I'm a crummy meditator, and might be thinking that, oh well, yeah, there's another meditator out there. Give advice to somebody that would love to just be able to get the essence of meditation. What would you tell them to do to just get started?

Well, actually, there is a whole group of people, quite a few of them. I just discovered from my friend, Cynthia James, that they need to meditate walking.

Mm-hmm.

So there is walking meditation, and there's physical meditation. So if you have never been able to really sit still, you could be one of those people, and you probably should have her as a guest, because she's an expert in that area. I have been given a mantra, but before I had my mantra, I basically just would sit very quiet and then I— there would be a sound, the sound of Om in the old days. But that, I didn't know it, but Om actually was giving me quite a bit of energy. And then you just let things pass by. It's almost like a detachment, just for like 20 minutes, half an hour, sit down and just kind of separate yourself from your problems, from your thinking, from your—

Mm-hmm.

Even though you're thinking, just kind of like begin to see it as a screen that's going in front of you, as opposed to being in it. And little by little, because one of the things about meditation is cumulative, it doesn't just happen overnight. So even if you just sit there for 20 minutes, even if it's really, really, really loud, just kind of begin to see the advancements that you can have, the progress, as you just sit there. And there are some meditations, beautiful ones, there are apps where you can just listen to beautiful music. But the thing is to start calming yourself down.

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No, no, actually it's supposed to be kept quiet.

Yes.

It's a very neutral sound. There's no significance to it. It's just a sound.

Oh, it's a sound for you, not words. It's a sound.

It's a word that is like a sound.

That's like a sound. Good. All right, beautiful. Well, I will say this. I have the same as almost— did you say for about 10 years you've been meditating?

Without missing, twice a day.

Yeah, beautiful. It's, I guess, this being 2019, I'm in my approximately 11th year of starting my day with a particular ritual, and it's one that I will involve you with now. So, Doria, did you wake up today?

Yes.

Yeah. You know, sometimes I'll ask people that and they go, uh, get back to me in a half hour, you know, and the coffee's kicked in or what have you. And it is a little funny because sometimes we're awake on a physical level, but from a consciousness level, we're not so awake. And in fact, when I used to be a lawyer, I was in that profession for about 18 years, and this has nothing to do with that profession, but I spent a lot of time in Manhattan because of my work, and I walked the streets of Manhattan and thousands and thousands of people that you would pass each day and man, it didn't feel like everybody was quite awake. Kind of a look you could see in somebody's eyes where they just wouldn't make eye contact and you couldn't get a smile out of some folks and that kind of thing. So the process of waking up is more than just physical. But one thing's for certain, Doria, right? When you went to bed last night, you were not given a guarantee, a promise that you would wake up today. Isn't that true?

Correct.

So the moment of waking is also a blessing. And all of us wake up each morning to a different day, to a different set of circumstances. We don't know what's going to happen. And there are things, of course, we know that are scheduled for that day, some of which we're really excited about. Like I knew we were going to be on this podcast today and I woke up this morning excited about that, enthusiastic, yeah? And then there are some days where the thing you're waking up to encounter might be going to court. Yeah. It might be an argument that has to get resolved, a conversation, a very transparent and difficult conversation with someone. It could be going to the doctor. It could be getting chemo. It could be going to a burial or something else. So there's so many infinite possibilities of what the day will hold. But one thing I think is certain, and that is that as you take that first breath of the morning, as I did this morning, there are people that were taking their very last breath in that same moment. So there's something truly sacred about it. And so to me, if you can, in that moment of just being aware that you are in fact awake from your bed or from on your way to the bathroom, even if that's the case, just that awareness that, yes, I am awake and that is a blessing, can shift you, shift you even momentarily into gratitude, into a state of gratitude. And what's great about gratitude, I think, is that it's impossible to be in gratitude even for a moment And be in fear in that same moment. And fear really is the thing that I think gets in the way of so much of what we want out of life and the joy and what we're meant to do, as you said earlier, the purpose that we have is interfered with more by fear than any other thing. So this is a great antidote to fear. Wake up and feel grateful. Think about something you're grateful for and then take 10 seconds. That's all it takes, 10 seconds to say something out loud. And those words are, I love my life. I love my life. I love my life. Doria, what are those words?

I love my life. And but before I go, I have to say something. I cannot go without telling you this. Buckminster Fuller used to love to say this, and you're going to love this. He used to say, there are no guarantees that the person that goes to sleep at night is the same person that wakes up in the morning. It was one of his favorite things to say.

Ah. It

was so mystical. And I have to tell you, I have had a lot of loss this life. This is part of why I'm not attached to money and have an understanding of money that's very unreal in many ways, because it can't save you from these things. So I have had tremendous, tremendous loss in my life. And I have to tell you that the hardest things during that time was waking up and having that feeling Of loss instantly. Most people don't understand that when you lose somebody that you love so much. So that's the hardest thing. So one of the things that I began to learn was to— very similar, but I didn't have the distinctions that you have because I was only, you know, 19 years old. And then later I really began to learn that whatever it was that I said to myself first thing in the morning, and then there were times when I felt so different. So now— I have this thing that it could be the worst day. And I go, I'm going to bed because I know tomorrow morning is a brand new day. And we don't know if the same person that goes to sleep is going to wake up in the morning. And so I love to sleep and I love to wake up every morning. So thank you for reminding me of that.

Thank you, Doria. DC, as you're known to some people. But Doria is such a beautiful name. I feel so blessed that we got to spend time together. You are a resilient lady. I know we have had difficulties and high and low moments in our lives, but you're a model of resilience. I feel like that's one of the most important things in the world today because it's how we figure things out, right? It's how if we're not around long enough to make enough mistakes to find out what doesn't work, it's very difficult for us to really learn what does work. It's kind of a risk in that respect. It's so fitting. For this crazy wild ride. That we're all on. So anyway, thank you so much. If this has been an enjoyable conversation to all of you out there that are watching and listening, please go to adamarkel.com/podcast and leave a comment, leave a review on iTunes, join us on Facebook, and of course, they'll have full show notes. You're going to find out more about this lovely lady and her programs and the work she's been doing in the world and how it is that you can interact with her, and I highly recommend that you get into proximity to this. Thank you. Very, very wise, beautiful woman here. Then you'll see that in the show notes. There's links and things to other things we've mentioned during our conversation today, and I'll just leave you all with this. Big kiss. Ciao for now.

Aloha.

Aloha.

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