#135: The True Meaning Of Resilience And How It Can Impact Your Life With Jill Lublin
28 Oct 2019 · 43 min
In this episode of the Conscious Pivot Podcast, host Adam Markel welcomes longtime friend and publicity strategist Jill Lublin to discuss the deeper dimensions of resilience, intuition, and purposeful pivots. The conversation opens with personal anecdotes about family weddings and the rapid pace of life, then moves into Jill’s professional background—four books, a career in global PR, and her latest work, The Profit of Kindness, which reframes ROI as Return on Kindness (ROK). Jill explains how she operates intuitively, describing intuition as a mix of inner voice, heart‑felt guidance, and gut feelings that often surface as spontaneous messages during client work. A pivotal “blindside”—fracturing both ankles in a fall while traveling—forced her into a wheelchair, prompting a shift toward creating a TV show, Messages of Hope, and deepening her commitment to kindness‑focused projects. Both hosts emphasize that resilience is cultivated through daily rituals such as short meditation, affirmations, gratitude practices with a partner, self‑care, and the willingness to slow down when life accelerates. Adam promotes a free Resilience Leader Assessment (resiliencerank.com) and references the Change Proof book and community (changeproof.com) as additional tools. The episode concludes with a simple morning affirmation—“I love my life”—and an invitation for listeners to engage with the podcast community.
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Welcome to The Conscious Pivot Podcast with international speaker, business mentor, bestselling author of Pivot, and your host, Adam Markel. The Conscious Pivot shares the stories and wisdom of people who have successfully reinvented some area of their business and personal life. You'll gain powerful insights into how you can fully embrace new opportunities, increase your performance, and master the art and science of innovation and resilience. So please join Adam as he guides you on your conscious pivot.
Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Conscious Pivot Podcast. I'm your host, Adam Markel, and I am, wow, blown away in so many ways this morning with just what has been going on all around. So many different things to be observant And in our life, just things have been incredible and going so quickly. I'm sort of finding myself both in awe of just the speed at which light, life, time has traveled, and at the same time, just how much more there is in this moment and in every moment yet to be experienced. We just had our firstborn take vows with an amazing man over the weekend, and our daughter Chelsea and our son Matthew got got married and it was such a beautiful ceremony. They shared vows together in such a vulnerable way, a way that I've never actually— I've never seen before, never experienced that before at a wedding. And going back 30 years to when my wife, Randi, and I took our vows together, most of what we said were things that were told to us to say. It was like, repeat after me, and we just repeated after. And it was beautiful and all that. Fast forward 30 years later and the first of our 4 kids is getting married and they've created their own vows and their own ceremony and their own way of doing it all. And it was just gorgeous. It was beautiful, breathtaking, and different and just uniquely them. So to be witness to that, to participate in that, to be a daddy and be giving my daughter away, all these things just created this incredible roller coaster of emotions. And as I said, something so beautiful and remarkably unprepared. I was so remarkably unprepared for that roller coaster over the weekend. And again, coming out the other end of it, just amazed at how quickly time has passed. And yet at the same time, so just enthusiastic for this moment and everything that is yet to come. It is a beautiful, glorious day. I'm so thrilled that I get to spend time with all of you and time with an old friend of mine, dear friend, someone that I met some years ago through business, common business that we had. And she asked me a pretty important question one day. We were standing in line at a Starbucks and asked me a very direct and point-blank question about my message and in particular how it was that I was going to reach a wider audience of people with the things that were really on my heart, and this lady happens to be an expert in the space of publicity. She's a strategist, she's a consultant, she's a bestselling author. She's worked with authors all across the globe to help them to clarify their message, to be able to get that message out in the world, including through the creation of a book, the sale of those books to publishers. In fact, she helped me to find my first agent, and we got a first time, 6-figure deal on a book that was just in the incubation phase, wasn't even written at that point, was just barely an outline and that kind of thing. And she was really seminal in providing guidance there, mentorship there, as good friends do and good colleagues, of course, do. They look out for each other. And this person really, really, I think, had my back at the time, looked out for me. And so it's a thrill not only that we've been able to maintain our relationship over many, many years— again, not sure where all that time has gone, but it's gone so quickly. But to have her on the show today, to introduce her to all of you and to hear some of her wisdom, all the places in her own life where she's both pivoted, become more resilient in the process of just living day to day, all of those things. She just brings a wealth of tremendous value and a great experience to the table. So, Jill Lublin is my guest today. Jill, welcome to the Conscious Pivot Podcast. Really wonderful to have you on the show. Resilience. It's the unsung hero in every success story that you will ever hear about. And in times of massive change and disruption, the kind of rapid change that we're all experiencing as leaders, as business owners, as entrepreneurs, we have to learn how to not only increase our own resilience but that of our teams. So right now we have a powerful opportunity for you to find out just how resilient you are. Some years ago, my team and I created the resilience assessment that more than 5,000 business leaders across the globe have taken. And all you have to do to get your own free resilience leader assessment is go to resiliencerank.com. It takes less than 3 minutes, and it's our gift to you for being the leader that you already are. Other free resources and tools will accompany your score instantly. So go to resiliencerank.com and find out just how resilient you are.
Thank you, Adam. I'm so glad to be here and also for all the beautiful things that are happening in your world too.
Yeah. I think it's just incredible how much is going on in the world in general. I mean, anybody I speak to, they say this sort of the same thing. And it's clear that I feel like in this phase, we're all going through very, very similar journeys. So what's happening in your life? Look, I didn't say very, very much sort of detail-wise about your bio. I'd love it, in fact, if you'd introduce yourself to our audience. So Jill, What do you want people to know about you? Maybe it's something that is typically part of your media sheet when people are booking you to speak on stages and things. There's a whole list of your accomplishments and books you've authored and all that kind of thing. But what's something that isn't typically part of your bio that you'd love for people to know about you?
Okay. Well, besides the fact that I have 4 books, I always make the joke that, you know, some people have children, but I have books and cats. So, I have 4 books and 4 cats. You know, I think that's an interesting parallel personally. So that's just something I always, you know, I'm such an animal lover.
Cats.
Yes, I have books and cats. I have many other things too, but I just think that's funny about it. It is 4 books, 4 cats.
I'm not sure if I'm being, uh, led in any direction based on that, but who knows, maybe in the next little while we're gonna go, holy smokes, this is the reason why there's 4 books and 4 cats.
So I think that's the big thing. I speak all over the world on publicity and networking, and my latest book is The Profit of Kindness. And I'm actually really looking at my pivot next step for how to really take this into the world in a larger way with plans for a conference and much more speaking about that too, along with my publicity career. So I'm excited about all of that. Yeah.
So for somebody who's written books about marketing and has spent a lot of time in the PR space and the publishing space, a book with the title The Profit of Kindness is different. What inspired you to write that book, Jill? And does it parallel some sort of a transition point in your life? Does it mark a particular milestone of some kind? What can you say about that?
Yeah. I really feel always led by inspiration in terms of what's next. I operate a lot of my business intuitively. When I asked you that question, So many years ago about what you were going to do and time to have a book. That was from a totally inspirational and intuitive place where I hope and always focus on leading my business from that. Because I know that when inspiration leads me, things are successful. So with The Profit of Kindness, what's interesting is I didn't necessarily plan on writing another book. And next thing I know, you know, once you start having successful books, Publishers kind of want more, and that's a good thing, right? And somehow— and I'm trying to remember— oh yes, I'm remembering right in this moment. This woman who I love and adore, she's 85 now. She's been my friend for over 20 years. We're close friends, and the kind of friend that when she needs a ride to the doctor's appointments in the middle of my busy business workday, I drop everything and go get her, you know, that kind of friend. Take her to lunch.
That kind of friend. Yeah.
Yes, exactly. And so as she's been aging, it's been tough, right? I mean, just a lot more things are required. And one of the things, she looked at me one day and she goes, you know, you're so kind. I wish other people would be like this. I think we should have a new currency. She says, the currency of kindness. And I went, wow. And something inside me went, wow. And so that was actually the book that I then turned into The Profit of Kindness. And I remember I came up with return on kindness principles. So ROK rock instead of ROI. You know, everybody's always concerned about ROI. And I figured if you get ROK, return on kindness, you're going to have ROI. But it was so interesting because that was a whole process. You know, I decided to have 7 words because I love the number 7. You know, it's my magic number. And I sat there and I created words and up to the last moment, Almost to publishing, I frankly changed a word or two. So anyway, it's just, I really believe that that really was born out of an inspiration, out of something saying someone. I think it's always important, like you did, Adam, many years ago, which birthed you a major bestselling book that continues to influence your life. You have to listen for inspiration. It may come through others. It may come, like in my case, through this wonderful friend of mine, Gloria. It came through me to you about your book, you know, however it comes. It might come from internal sources and the whispers, you know, that we all hear. So I really think it's important to listen and as much as possible to run your business from that place. And I think for me, Adam, that's been a big pivot. Why? Because I was a driver, ambitious, career-oriented, and I had a path and I was going on that path and happy on that path, frankly. And But I believe that as the years have passed, one of my big pivots has been letting the river flow me more and seeing what shows up. And now that's not to say, I mean, I'm definitely intentional, I'm purposeful, and I think it's important to be those things, but I also think it's important now for me in my journey to watch what shows up, what, how life presents itself to me and What's in the air? You know, what's Jill supposed to do? And I listen and I pray and I stay watching for inspiration within me. Because, you know, somebody may come up with a great idea and it looks great and it sounds great and it might even be right if you were to look at it logically and analytically.
Hmm.
But for me, my pivot is operating more from a spiritually driven place. What's my purpose? What's aligned with what feels good to my heart? And it's more like that for me now.
How long has it been that you've been more conscious about that? I mean, I've known you a while now, so I'd say you always struck me as someone who was— I don't want to use the word deep. I mean, I see you as a thinking person. I feel you're a thoughtful person. You care about others, clearly. You're kind. Anybody that knows you knows you're quite kind. But I also thought, yeah, you're introspective. You consider things. That's
true.
Is this a relatively new thing for you to want to be trusting, I suppose, if I can use that word, trusting in inner guidance or intuition or inner knowing as opposed to some other method of seeing life?
Yeah.
Making things happen kind of.
Yeah. I think it's, you know, life is an interesting mixture of both. I mean, I don't think you can just sit by, as much as I'd love to say law of attraction is great. You got to combine it, in my opinion, with thoughtful, purposeful action. I mean, anything great that gets accomplished, if you really look at it, is filled with plans and focused. And, but often it starts with an inspiration. So I would tell you more and more in this realm, certainly for numbers of years, I've always been highly intuitive and I've used it in my work consistently. I don't necessarily talk to people about that except those that can hear it. Certainly you and I share that.
What does it mean? Let's not even make the assumption. that are listening at the moment will know what you mean by intuitive. So let's define that just a bit from the context that it has meaning in for you.
So there's a couple things for me. Number one, well, just even when I stood next to you and I said, okay, what about a book and how about your legacy and your knowledge and information into a way that people can consume it, right? That just really came through me. So some things will literally come through me. I find that happens a lot with my clients. In PR, you know, I literally say to people now, take notes because things come through me. You've seen me do it on stage in hot seats with people that the messages will come through me. And I, and I am a messenger for messengers. I feel that in my heart. I know it of who I be. So what's intuition for me? Sometimes it literally comes through me and almost like there's no controlling it per se.
So is it, is it a feeling? Is it a voice? Like, Describe it if you could.
Okay. So depending on the situation, I find with clients, it's often a voice, like it's guidance. It's whispers in my ears and head. Like I will hear people's message, for example, or what to say next. That will usually come through me. And I hear it more so as a, say this. Sometimes it's a feeling in my heart or my gut, like move here. You're, Go there, you know, like all of a sudden I'll find myself moving a certain direction or away from a certain direction depending, or, you know, you have to go here now. So I mostly, for me, it's listening to my voices, so to speak, feeling what's in my heart or in my gut. I know people talk about it as gut. I actually tend to feel it more in my heart.
Yes.
And I will be led places, you know, like to me it's almost like, okay, go here, go there. And follow that. But when I also talk about inspiration for next steps, like I am putting together a kindness conference. Well, since The Prophet of Kindness came out, I was inspired, and I use that word, it's an inspiration to do a kindness conference. I couldn't quite do it when the book was fresh and new because there's so much promotion and publicity and other things that go into having a book out that consume that. So that has certain timing. But I do feel that there are seeds that are planted in us, right? And so this kindness piece for me is a planted seed. It comes out first as a book and next as a movement. And I don't really always know how— when inspiration comes, I don't always have the how. But one thing I'm clear about is you get together people who know how, right? Mm-hmm. Just like I'm an expert at PR, people have me do that with them. I need to gather people who know how to do certain other things, you know, create movements or help me with the conference, different pieces, right? So I think that's really important that we gather team to support the inspiration, right? We are not to do things alone. I don't think any of us were meant to do anything alone here, and that we are here for each other to support each other and find the right people for your team. So That's why when I say I listen for inspiration, then I put into action. But I'm now not moving on things unless inspiration is part of that.
Right. Now, even when you're inspired and you surround yourself with great people with diverse skills and you've got things covered, or at least as part of what we believe, we feel, right? It's covered. Yeah.
One would think
stuff doesn't go according to plan frequently. In fact, it's more the rule than the exception that the plan will change over time. Would you agree with that?
Oh, constantly the plan changes and part of life. And so this is the flow, right, of the river and getting the canoe and, or the kayak and that, you know, you can paddle, but then you have to go with the flow. Right? So if things aren't going according to plan, there's a couple of things like, okay, what needs to change? What needs to shift? Why is that? Or maybe something bigger needs to happen, like a date change, for instance. So again, I just watch, like, what's happening and where are the struggles or the obstacles. And yeah, there's just certain things you got to overcome, certain things about doing business. There's moments of high concentration, you know, when you're getting a book out, it's just bam, bam, bam. You just got to do stuff, right? When you're working on a specific project, I call it times of concentration, and you don't do anything else But that it's high focus, right? And you just deal with stuff. So we all wish things went according to plan and simply and easily. But part of, I think, life is how are we going to react? That determines things too. To me, walking around like a chicken crazed, which by the way, I can feel like at times. I mean, we all feel these things. What good will that do at a certain point? So.
Jill, I'm just curious. What's the most As you sit here in this moment, if I said to you, and I will ask you this question, what's the greatest blindside that you've ever had? What comes to mind?
The blindside. Okay. So define blindside.
The pivot we didn't necessarily anticipate in the moment. Our theory is that there's 2 kinds of changes that are happening. Change is constant in the universe. So there's either change by design or change by default. And by default are those things that catch you off guard. So the blindside is something that you don't see coming. The most significant blindside that you've had?
Well, I think falling and fracturing both ankles at once in multiple places, that blindsided me. That forced me literally off my feet and for 6 months into a wheelchair. And I think that actually was one of the first things that just put me in a different focus of what publicity meant, for me. I started a TV show from it called Messages of Hope, because I really got an inspiration about accelerating positive messages into the world. Right? So it probably started like that.
That came out of breaking your ankles?
Yes.
Help us to understand the thread there just a little bit. Connect a few of those dots for us.
So, you know, when God takes you off your feet, so to speak, and knocks you off your feet, And by the way, I got knocked
off my feet on Monday. So we got back from—
You did?
Yeah, we had this 4-day wild and crazy weekend in the desert and got home and didn't have a busy, busy day, but I had to get up to Irvine for a meeting, an important meeting. And that morning I looked out at the water. We have a house that overlooks the blue ocean here, and I could see that there were beautiful waves curling and the wind was just right. So I grabbed my surfboard and 2 minutes later I was down at the water. Getting ready to get in, but I knew I had this meeting, and so I decided, oh, the waves are just little and it's just so nice out there. I'll go in for a half hour. I don't need to even stretch. And I got in, didn't stretch, and got up on the first wave. Everything was fine. Second time I pop up, my back goes. I end up literally face down on the board.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I spent the last 2 days on my back. Today's the first day I'm actually on my feet, so Pretty interesting that you're sharing this with us right now, Jill. So again, you end up breaking both ankles. How does that happen? How did it occur?
Oh, do I have to tell you? It was so embarrassing.
You don't have to. It couldn't be any more embarrassing than what I just said. I literally just standing up, falling right on my face. And I literally waiting, like took me 10 minutes to just get from where I was in the water to the shore.
Oh boy. You're lucky you could and that nothing else happened.
Yeah, I know. It was one of those and then managed to use some yoga work that we've been doing for a long time to just get myself back to a place where I could stand up and walk off the beach, but collapsed later, collapsed later, like 12 hours later, ended up—
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah. So you had a little thing happen?
Yeah, so I had a little thing happen. I literally stepped off a curb and fell over a rain grate and fell on my face and literally fractured both ankles in multiple places. And I was not near my home, so I was actually in Canada. So the whole thing about getting back and being taken care of there and all kinds of things, we'll skip forward ahead. And let me just say that you learn a lot of lessons when, you know, I'm a strong, independent, autonomous woman and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, I was in a wheelchair completely dependent on everyone else. I could not do anything. I'm not kidding. Like cook— well, that was my favorite part. Okay, not cooking, but— I couldn't sleep in my own bed. I had to Everything. I had to be wheeled through everything. I couldn't take showers. I mean, the whole bit. It was tough. It was really tough.
Wow. The pace of change over the last couple of years has been rapid. And if you're a leader, a business owner, an entrepreneur, you know exactly what I'm talking about. Every day it's something different and something new. But the one thing that I've learned in performing at the height of all of those roles has been that we must be resilient. In fact, it's the unsung hero in every success story that you will ever hear about. And it's the reason why my team and I created the resilience assessment that more than 5,000 business leaders across the globe have taken. And all you have to do to get your own free resilient leader assessment is go to resiliencerank.com. It takes less than 3 minutes, and it's our gift to you for being the Other free resources and tools will accompany your score instantly. So go to resiliencerank.com and find out just how resilient you are.
I had to have a caregiver, and let me share that, that, you know, I'm like, okay, what's the meaning of this? Once I kind of got through the trauma part of the injury, And I just, you know, one of the things I'm like, okay, let's get moving on this messaging, this positive messaging in the world. And I just, I finally had time to lay back and just be with reflections. I could certainly, my travel schedule was cut a lot. I started traveling even in the wheelchair in about 2 months, but still that was just such logistical craziness. But during that time I was reflecting what's going on here.
And forced you to slow down.
Exactly. Exactly. I call it stopped in my tracks.
Stopped in your tracks.
Yes. And you know what I'm looking at right now in my office? Oh, this is so interesting. At a Marin Independent Journal. So I'm in Northern California, and I actually pitched the newspaper, my local newspaper, about positive media and what I was doing with the TV show, which happened after all this. I started that TV show right away. It's local cable and started interviewing great people on their messages of hope. And that newspaper did a piece on me. And I'm looking at the masthead. I made actually the front page that says, accident is inspiration. Isn't that interesting?
Beautiful.
I didn't even realize that because we've been using that word today.
Right. Yeah. How interesting, right, that the conversation ended up going this way. A mentor of mine some years ago shared with me that In many ways, places in business, we have to slow down before we can speed up. And I think that's true in life as well. There are times when we must slow down. I'm convinced that the reason I hurt my back the other day was because I was foolish and all the rest. I can look back and I did beat myself up a bit about knowing better since I am a resilience, in many ways considered someone that shares a great deal of experience about How to be resilient in business and in life, and pivoting is in many ways the art and the science of the pivot, has to do with how resilient we are before we need to be resilient, and then the resilience that we are able to cultivate in the moment when things that we don't expect actually happen. So there's— resilience is a big part of the equation, in my opinion, when it comes to— Wow. What creates success or how people are successful. And I mean, our own individual definitions of success, of course, are different, but overall, a successful person is a person that is persevering and ultimately is getting fulfillment out of life experience. So it's somebody who's not defeated by life, but someone who's inspired by life, to use your word. But if we don't live to fight another day or live to learn another day, then we don't get those lessons and we don't necessarily see how things have been so perfectly orchestrated in the past. In the moment, we just see them as threatening or dark or harmful or whatever or scary. But when you look back on your past, you can see so perfectly that everything was ordered and orchestrated, if you will, even in just this such a divine way, something we can't necessarily see as we're traveling up a dark staircase That is the future. We just don't know what's ahead. And we, I think, spend time worrying about that or thinking that somehow we'd like to change things in the past. But when we find that we've gotten further on in our lives and we look back, and even something like breaking both your ankles had a profound impact on you. It had a profound impact on what was going to be next. So you slowed down in order for you to then begin some new projects or be inspired about creating something new. And those things took off and were successful and led you to new destinations that you just wouldn't have been there but for the fact that you, you did have to slow down. Is that accurate what I'm saying? Is that—
Yes. And I totally agree that one at times needs to slow down. And I tend to be a very fast-paced person. I think fast, I operate fairly quickly. And for me, I actually even, you know, I've been reflecting over these past few days, and I don't want any more rushing in my life, right? And when I say rushing, it's like, yes, I can have many appointments and, and not be rushing to them. And I think it's important that we take the pace of life how we want it. There are times, like I said, that's just things are fast-focused, and that is the pace of the moment. And yes, in life right now, I think we are going incredibly fast related to your original comments. Life is passing at the speed of light. So if we're going to pass at the speed of light, you know, also for me, I have truly increased my self-care. That's gotten even more important to me, you know, and like, what am I going to do to take care of myself in the speed?
Right. If you were defining what resilience looks like for you as a series of rituals, for example, conscious habits. What are some of those things for you, Jill? You mentioned one. This is the idea of self-care, not the idea, but the act of self-care.
Certainly. I mean, honestly, it comes down a lot to self-care, also meditation, exercise. And I noticed even these past 4 days, there's been circumstances with holidays happening. It's like, okay, did I get that in? Well, no, it slipped out. All right, good. What will I do to put it back in? And how about not making myself wrong? Can that be part of Life. I think all of these things around— as I— for me, resilience is about loving myself more.
Yes.
And in the loving myself, that means I always work on no judgment for others. Well, what about no judgment for me? You know, if I miss the mark or when I've done something. So I think that's a piece for me of continually letting go of What I think is supposed to happen in life, and we stay in action and we make things happen. It's an interesting mix, truthfully, and I think it's a navigation of life. Like, how do we do it most gracefully? Well, sometimes we're gonna fall on our face, literally in my case, even in your case the other day, we're gonna fall, and there are consequences for that, and it hurts, and, you know, you have to rest or whatever else you have to do, right? And take care of yourself.
It's embarrassing as well.
Yes.
You've got to ask people for support or you struggle alone. You know, these are choices we make then too. That night, I didn't— you know, Randy and I were dealing with it. And even though our kids live less than a mile away, I said to them, ah, you know, don't call them, don't call them, because I didn't want them to worry. And let me tell you how much shit I got for that the next day. They were so upset with Randy and I for not reaching out and saying, you know, geez, Dad, He goes down and his back is all locked up. I mean, how do you not call us? How do you not tell us? And but in my mind, the story was, yeah, I don't want to worry them. Everything will be fine tomorrow. Which is an interesting thing because as you said earlier, nothing great is created alone. Our life in this space is about connection. We're not here alone. None of us live on an island. So even though some of us are introverts and others are extroverts, the fact is— We're here to experience life together. And it's an interesting thing because when we talk about what does it take to create resilience, I would say that part of that recipe includes the support of others. It includes things like what you said earlier about the regular ability to forgive yourself, to be in non-judgment of yourself, to let go of things. And I— there are lots of rituals that we could create around what we eat, our diets, our exercise, and those things are are vitally important, and yet there are also some of these other things that get less attention, certainly, in the way of how it is that we treat ourselves internally, like the internal dialogue, the things that we say to ourselves and what we do attach ourselves to and what we choose consciously to let go of. Do you like or love A Course in Miracles?
Yes. I haven't studied it as excessively, but yes, I love it.
I love it as well. I don't know that I could be in the middle on it. I either really love it or I really don't. And I haven't studied it extensively, but there's one area that I come back to again and again called The New Beginning. It's chapter 30. Sometimes I refer to it as Rules for Decision, but it's basically a short chapter on how it is that we create the day we want. And in taking the time and applying a process to how it is that we create cultivate, curate a day of joy and bliss and happiness for ourselves, that the true gift of that day is that we then are able to give it to others. So as you said earlier, it's often the case that we can give to others, we can even withhold judgment from others, but yet we keep it on ourselves. This particular section of this beautiful text has to do with how it is that we receive. And it kind of flips on its side a little bit of the concept of it's better to give than to receive. And it doesn't address it in that language. It just goes at it from the standpoint of we can't give anything that we don't inherently possess ourselves. So the love that we wish to give to the world is a reflection of the love that we give ourselves. And the love that we withhold from ourselves is in the same way the love that we withhold from others and from the world. So it's a really interesting discussion of that reciprocal relationship that can also start with giving to yourself, that in the giving and the receiving yourself of things that you want, such as self-care and self-love, self-acceptance, self-forgiveness, that these then become these gifts that you're able to share fully with other people because you possess them yourself. Does that make sense?
Well, exactly. Yeah. I mean, we do our business and we be in our business who we want to be, I hope, and serve others magnificently. And I think the best way to do that is keep serving yourself and growing. I mean, by that, growing into the best we can be and stay resilient through everything. And don't expect life to be a— as much as I think we all like, oh yeah, you know, we all plan and then God laughs. But do you buy
that, Jill? Do you buy that, the idea that if you judge yourself, if you're self-critical, that you're probably also self-critical of others and other things as well?
Yes, I do. I do.
Because to think that you could be really open and accepting of other people And situations, but yet when it comes to yourself, not so much. You really think those 2 things can coexist well?
I think that honestly, I think we're all judgmental to a certain extent. I mean, we're human, we're discerning, we create opinions and form judgments of people, good, bad, whatever. And then there's the part about judging ourselves. And I often think that we are often harder on ourselves, many people, depends, are harder on themselves than on other people, and other people are harder on other people than themselves. I think that might be what's true. I mean, I've met some pretty judgmental people and people who like are saying things and you're like, what the— where's that coming from? You know, whatever, silly things who just want to whine and complain about life.
Not part of the recipe for resilience, I don't
think. No, I don't think so either.
Jill, I would love it if you'd share as we wrap up, what's a ritual that you have, a daily ritual for creating greater resilience for yourself as a business owner and somebody that's continually looking for inspiration for others as well in the work that you do? What's one thing you do daily that's a ritual for you to create more resilience for yourself?
I would tell you meditate. And again, this is not a 30-minute or even an hour process. It is usually short and focused. I go through a certain meditation I do that's just simple. And then I read affirmations and my missions. And my mission statement. So that's what I do daily.
Beautiful. And do you do it at a particular time of the day? Is it the morning that you—
Yeah, I prefer morning. The other thing I want to add is that every evening I say with my partner 5 things we're grateful for.
Hmm.
Aloud. We do it verbally. Love to say I keep a journal. For me, it's just too much more work. I just, I just say verbally, we're good, we're complete, and it feels really good.
Beautiful. Before bed?
Yeah. Yes.
Beautiful. Lovely, lovely, Jill. We're at the end of our time today, but I know this is a deep conversation that you and I can continue and everybody else that's listening to this at the moment. Give some thought to where it is that you are yourself able to take better care of yourself. Where is it that there's room for growth inside? Where is there opportunity to create greater resilience for yourself and the world? I truly believe that it is one of our great responsibilities to be fully alive and present in this moment for ourselves so that we are able to gain greater insight and understanding and therefore be someone that other people can look at, model, learn from. Observation, I think, is really a profound thing with the speed at which everything's moving. And you said this earlier, Jill, things are going so quickly. We can miss the mark or go further from the mark more quickly than it was when things were slower. And I think that that speed, the pace that technology has contributed to all of our lives is a great blessing. It's a great benefit because it has enabled us to travel great distances, to be able to put things into motion and see things to fruition much more quickly than they had been in the past. And yet at the same time, when things are moving so quickly and we can sort of miss our off-ramp or miss some important thing in our lives, it's just that much more important that we have a way to slow down. And in this case, just in the last couple of days, the universe said to me, well, if you won't slow down, we know exactly how to slow you down. And I think you had a little of that experience, and plenty of other people know what that's like. So one of those rituals I think that's really important in the way of being able to be more present and be more resilient would be any kind of a ritual that slows you down consciously. And you mentioned, Jill, about meditation. It could be simply taking a nice leisurely walk, a 20, 30-minute walk sometime in the day. I love to walk before I go to bed at night, just breathe some fresh air and clear the head and that kind of thing. But it really is so important. I think now more than ever that we create space for ourselves to slow down, to take some deep breaths, to take stock in what's happening around us and to be observant. And I think one of the great benefits of doing that, whether you call it prayer or you call it meditation or it's something else, that in slowing down and creating that space, there is room to hear. There's space to receive inspiration, to be guided. To even feel on the inside where it is that your intuition might be drawing you in a certain direction, calling you in a certain direction. So all of that is, I think, just beautiful for all of us to practice. And the moments in life when we do fall down are incredible because they also force— they sort of force the issue and make us contemplate where we are, how we've gotten here, and of course, I really hope you're enjoying this episode of the Change Proof podcast. If you've not yet gone out and gotten your own copy of Change Proof, it's not too late. You can get your copy right now by going to changeproof.com and not only getting the book and all the bonuses there, but getting access to our proprietary Change Proof Community. That's right. It'll just take you 3 minutes to do, and it's something that will really help you to utilize the book even more effectively to create practices and rituals and habits that will increase your mental, emotional, physical, and even spiritual resilience for the long term. Again, go to changeproof.com to get your copy today. Thanks, Adam. I've so enjoyed our time together, Jill. Thanks so much for being on the show today. Everybody, if you've enjoyed this episode, we'd love to hear from you. You can leave a comment at adammarkel.com/podcast. Leave a comment there. Let us know. Finding out more about Jill, Jill Lublin, and the work that she's doing in the world, how she helps people in their public relations, their marketing, books that they would love to get produced and used to transform people's lives. She's really a tremendous resource in that regard and many others. So we'll have full show notes including links to Jill's website and places where you can contact her and find out more about the work she's up to. For now, I'd say ciao everybody. Have a beautiful rest of your day. And I'll remind you of the waking ritual that was an inspiration to me more than 10 years ago. And I, I still get to be inspired by it every single day. So There's 3 parts to this ritual. The first is that we wake up. So Jill, did you wake up today?
Oh boy, I did.
And for a lot of us, we're still, still in the process of waking up. And that's perfect as well. Every day we get that gift, or it seems that every day we get that gift, but we know for sure when we go to bed at night that there's no guarantee that the next morning will be there. There's just no guarantee. When we wake up, Tomorrow morning when we all take that first deep breath of the day, please take a moment to recognize the fact that there are people who will be taking their last breath in that moment. And it's holy, it's sacred. We get to walk on holy ground that day if we're lucky. You can be grounded in that moment in gratitude. Just find something, even take 10 seconds, as simple as taking 10 seconds when you take that first breath. And realize that it's a gift and a blessing, that you can be grateful right then. Think of something, anything that you're grateful for. And the 3rd step beyond waking and being grateful is a declaration. If you're willing to say something new and different— many of you may have been saying this for a while, some of you it might be the first time to say these words out loud. They're 4 simple words, but they're also profound at the same time. I truly believe when we have the words, we also have the way. And these are the 4 words, I love my life. What are the words, Jill?
I love my life.
I love my life. Those are the words. So, 10 seconds tomorrow when you wake up and feel grateful, you can say those words as you start your day. I love my life. It's been a blessing, everyone. Ciao for now. Have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your day, your evening, wherever you are in the world. Take care.
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