Is Elon Musk Destroying His Reputation?

Yo, what's up everybody? It's Justin live from B2BVault, the Biz to Biz podcast sponsored by Nationwide Payment Systems, hosted by this guy, the Gilbert Godfrey of payment processing himself, Allen Kopelman. And in today's podcast, we'll be talking about some payment trends, tech trends, and just overall news in general, specifically Elon Musk.

He's been in the news a lot.

Yeah, no, he— I mean, he has been in the news This year, like almost, I feel like every day is almost.

And also happy Hanukkah to Gilbert Gottfried.

Happy Hanukkah, ladies and gentlemen. Happy holidays. Happy Hollablaze. Happy hustle days for all my homies back in the mill. Anyway, man, how you doing, dude?

Good. Busy week. Busy month so far. Let's bang it out. Everybody should, You know, try to make December great.

I mean, we got one month left of 2024. How crazy is that?

It's crazy, dude. I don't know where the year went.

I mean, my year, I don't even— we'll have a wrap-up podcast. But this year was a fight. I'll tell you that. It was a— I was— I'm still standing though. So, hey, take that.

So Elon Musk, I mean, he's just in the news like every day. Something is going on with Elon Musk.

Yeah, just, I mean, the, uh, the, the most recent, you know, when he told everyone, well, specifically the guy, what's the guy's name from Disney?

I don't know, the CEO.

I forget the CEO. Yeah, he told Disney to go bing bong yourself. He said, he told all, he said any advertiser, but he was specifically, no, his name was Bob. He was like Bob, I know you're in the audience. When he— after he said, go bing bong yourself, right, dude, I was like— I was— my, my mouth was to the floor. I couldn't believe he said that. I didn't know he had it in him.

Yeah, man, he just went off. He's like, doesn't care.

What do you think? Do you think that it's right what these huge companies are doing to him?

I don't think it's— dude, there's so much stuff going on in the world right now. This Like, I don't agree with cancel culture. So the whole cancel culture thing is, you know, we talked about it yesterday.

This is the USA, man.

I mean, no, but I'm just saying we were talking about it yesterday.

We were having a conversation.

I just said the whole cancel culture is out of control.

It is. You know, we're having a small conversation about— not a big conversation, but we talked about— we're talking about the podcast in general, right?

But also we talked about jokes later in the day, remember?

Yes. And we were talking about how you said you gotta be really careful.

Right, but I'm saying, can you hold people responsible for something they said 20, 30, 40 years ago? And that's the problem that we have today. Somebody says something and then they go dig it up. And if you go back, let me tell you something, there's a lot of people who probably would've never got elected President of the United States if there was social media.

I think that there's— 50 years ago. I think there's the line that's drawn in the sand, right? And I think that people's actions and words carry weight.

Yeah, but what I'm saying is, is people are being held accountable for things they said years and years and years ago. And whatever, you got to be careful. It is what it is.

If you don't change your thought process and if you're just okay, so this is the case. If you said some 20 years ago, right?

Yeah.

And you're still the same person.

Yeah.

Then you should be held accountable, right?

If you were—

if 20 years went past, like, for, you know, if 20 years went past and you are a changed person and you've learned and you've grew in your wisdom, your understanding, and all this, maybe there's a room, a little bit of forgiveness.

Like I was telling you, there's movies, right?

That's a total different thing.

I think the same thing. The person was in the movie, but the person was in the movie. So you're gonna say Oh, you were in XYZ movie 25 years ago. You're canceled because you did that movie 25 years ago. That's what's going on in our world. I don't know.

It is going on. But I think that you got to be really careful about how—

Yeah, but that person didn't write the movie.

But they were in the movie.

Okay.

But what I'm saying, it was acceptable 25 years ago. But you're missing my point, though. If they're not, if they were the same person, if they're the same person that they were then that they are today, then they should probably be held accountable.

But people still watch those movies and laugh at them.

All right, we're going to move forward.

We're not going to go over it, but I'm just saying it's gone a little too far as far as I'm concerned. Be judged on what you do today, not what you did in the past.

Right. So besides Elon Musk telling everyone to go bing bong themself, what else has he been up to?

So he's running, he's getting all these money transfer licenses and you need these—

Well, you're jumping the gun. What is a money transfer license?

Oh, so money transfer.

And why would he want that?

Right, 'cause he basically is putting together a payment. He wants to put payments on X and turn X into PayPal, right? And he did work at PayPal at some point.

He helped start PayPal, right? So, and he was the CEO, so he's going around, got ousted, so he wasn't good. No, I'm just kidding.

But he's going around getting all these money licenses so that he can, um, I'm— we're guessing that he's going to launch some kind of payment platform relatively soon. He must be working on it.

Do you think that's what he's just going to turn X into?

Maybe. I mean, payments—

formerly known as Twitter.

Yeah, payments is a huge business. And, uh, you know, like right now there's a couple of large payment processors for sale. Stripe is for sale.

That was crazy when I read that.

I mean, is Elon Musk going to go and buy Stripe? If he did, he wouldn't need all these licenses. So obviously I don't see why he wouldn't.

That sounds like a very easy opportunity for him. He's got the liquidity.

Stripe's been cleaning their act up though. Like, they've been booting out a ton of merchants. You get booted off Stripe because they're going through their stuff, cleaning it up to sell it. So somebody's going to come in there. They're not—

you got kicked off Stripe and, you know, you doing good business, holla at Nationwide Payment Systems and that's that. What were you saying?

They're cleaning it up to maybe there's some higher risk businesses on there that they don't want, things like that. Anybody who's, you know, debt accounts, people aren't like— they haven't processed payment in a couple of months, shut them off. Then the person goes to process a payment and then bam, oh, I don't have a merchant account. I had a guy call me with that the other day. He goes, oh, I hadn't processed a payment in 3 months. My account shut down.

Yeah. Stuff happens.

And they don't want them back, so.

Well, that's, I'm sorry for that guy.

No, but I'm just saying.

Did you hook him up?

Yeah, we sending over all the paperwork. It's one of the calls I got last night.

I think that'd be interesting. I mean, we were just talking off camera about Meta and how before I was, I don't know if anybody else remembers, I swore that they bought a payment platform company to integrate payments into their, because at first it was just Cash App that was integrated into Facebook.

Right, then they got this, then they had Facebook Payments.

Payments, so at that point I was pretty sure that they had bought Cash App, but I was wrong, Square owns it, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, yeah, no, I think that it makes sense., right? Because people are on, especially like we talk about this in the office, like how X, Twitter in general, is very popular in my generation. Right. You know what I mean? People who are 40 plus, probably even a little bit younger, probably like in their late 30s.

Yeah.

So it makes sense. You know, people who are very creative on X, Twitter, I'm going to keep calling it Twitter because X just is ridiculous.

Yeah, I don't get it. I think he just wanted to change the name because he just didn't like the way it looked.

Out of spite.

Yeah, out of spite.

I'll just change it. And to be honest, I mean, we said it before, I think he's losing. I got a bird on my, you know, shout out to the Baltimore Orioles for one of the dopest logos ever. I think it's a very big opportunity for another company to, you know, take that, not that bird, but use, you know, a bird, a bird to, you know, and I think that'll catch on somehow. But The Cybertruck thing.

I mean, Threads, that's not doing anything.

I'm on Threads. I like Threads. Okay, I do. I, I mean, I don't post on there a lot, but I like Threads. I think it's—

I scroll through there. There's a lot of OnlyFans people on there.

For me, it's a billion times better than, uh, Facebook. Okay, Facebook is, uh, cringy for me right now.

I haven't really posted.

I don't— I, I've removed all my I don't want to say like past life, but in general, people that I just, you know, I got over it. But moving on, man, the, uh, he just, you know, Tesla just dropped off like what, I don't know, I can't remember what, how many was it, 1,000 trucks they did?

Yeah, Cybertruck, 1,000 or, or more.

I thought it was like, it was a lot though. Yeah, it was a lot because there was, there was, I was seeing videos of like semi-trailers full of Cybertrucks.

Okay.

A lot of issues.

A lot of issues. Do you want one?

No. Do you know anybody that bought one?

Dave want— I think Dave put a— my business partner, I think he put a $100 deposit on it like 2 or 3 years ago.

I know somebody who put a deposit on it.

Was like $100.

And he was so gat— no, no, no. He put a— yeah, no, but he put it. He was buying it. Another friend of mine was about to buy it, but then the Bronco came out. Right.

Oh yeah, the Bronco.

He was like, man, I don't want that.

A lot of people didn't wait for the Cybertruck. They went to the Bronco and they went to that Ford F-150.

And that 4Runner, the new 4Runner.

Yeah, but did you see that Ford F-150 electric?

I don't care about no pickup trucks. Oh, man, that 4Runner.

Yeah.

The new 4Runners, man.

They're electric.

I don't care. No, I don't know what they are. No, they're definitely not a 4Runner. Man, the new Toyota 4Runners, dude, are badass. That's all I'll say. And so what are some of the issues that they're having?

Cybertruck doesn't go as far as they said it would. One of them tipped over and then they made a joke about it. And when it fell over on its side, they showed the Duracell batteries roll out of the bottom. No, somebody made a— You know, deepfake. But it tipped over. Somebody had one and they were hauling butt and went around a corner and the Cybertruck flipped over.

Damn.

So that wasn't good. Are they okay? I'm guessing they're fine.

Apparently, like, those things are like bulletproof.

Yeah, man, that thing is like, it looks like back to the future.

Did you see the video of Joe Rogan trying to pen it, pause, trying to, what was he shooting at it? An arrow. Oh, really? And the arrow exploded on impact.

Wow, that's crazy.

It was pretty cool.

Like really cool. Joe Rogan, you know, that's, you know, and the Tesla, you know, cars, EV cars, you know, the sales of them have slowed down. It's all over the news.

You and I were, I don't know, I've been talking about, we talk about EV cars a lot. I mean, we talk about a lot of nerdy things in the office, but electric vehicles are on the, I mean, 'cause you were just shopping for a car. You went and what did you drive?

Yeah, I went and drove, I went, I drove a Tesla. 2 different Teslas. They— because they have them used, right?

Of course they do.

So, you know, I went to the Tesla place and then I drove the one that starts with a P. Now I'm not going to call it by the right— Prius? No, not Prius. Pathfinder?

No, the Nissan Pathfinder?

No, no, no, I'm trying to remember. Whatever, it's the— the thing was like driving a brick.

Really?

Yeah, and the Tesla was weird to drive too. You know, they need to make it— They're tight? Yeah, they're very— No, no, just like they had the one that I did drive that I liked was the truck or the car? The car. And it had, it had real car mode in it, so it drove like a car. But the ones that don't drive like a car, like I drove like one of those Teslas, dude, it doesn't even have like a real steering wheel in it. It has like a thing you look like, looks like Star— you're driving like Star Trek down the road.

I mean, I like the inside of it, but I heard it's really— it takes a little bit to get used to.

I didn't really enjoy the whole thing. And, and then after—

because that's the one you're talking about, has the autopilot.

Yeah, I'm scared of those cars. And the other thing I don't like, and it's not just the EV cars, but the, the newer cars all have computers in them, and there's a lot of talk about these manufacturers putting kill switches in the cars. And that's a big thing. Like Tesla was saying, oh, they wanted to have that, a user agreement. Oh, you could buy a Tesla, but you couldn't sell it for a year. And the Tesla truck, you can't sell it.

They're suing you if you do, right?

Yeah, they're threatening to sue people. And especially during the pandemic, people were buying Teslas and they're flipping them, flipping them for a bunch of money.

I mean, to be honest, I don't see the problem with that.

Well, they know, but the manufacturer had a problem with it. They started suing people and cutting the car so it couldn't start.

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

So I know someone who resold a Tesla and they sold it to somebody and then Tesla shut it off. They said, oh, because your car flipped. It says in the agreement you can't flip it. And he flipped it.

Man, I think there's a lot. I don't, I mean, I'm all for technology and advancement of the human race, right? Yeah, but the, the, the, the, the way Tesla is handling, like, you know, they're trying to like monopolize the—

well, I don't know about that. He's been doing manufacturing—

there's a bunch of different—

he's been manufacturing electric cars longer than everybody.

Yeah, the thing, um, well, he's been—

he produced more than—

bought the company, okay, but he—

that was manufacturing the electrical cars, okay, but he, he's sold more electric cars than anyone else.

I can't—

there's no argument there. The thing I don't like about electric cars is where do the minerals come from? Who's mining those minerals?

Yeah, the kids in, in the—

there's a lot of bad stuff going on with that.

It's terrible.

Then the EV tax credits all say, oh, the minerals have to come from the US.

They just lost half of the tax credits for the trucks.

Well, no, like none of these car manufacturers—

no, I'm saying the electric Tesla, they, they were supposed to get $7,500 in tax credits, right? And they just lost half of that, right? So now when people go to get that tax credit this year, it's going to be half, half of what they were guaranteed, right?

But I'm saying like other manufacturers, they're not producing the batteries in the United States. The whole thing is a joke. None of this stuff should come from China. Listen, there's other stuff. There's guys who made a water car, the hydrogen car, the hydrogen car.

Rest in peace to the guy who was doing it. He was leading, you know, that movement. And, you know, it was really sad that, uh, I wish I could remember his name. Yeah, there's been a couple of people that passed away right after he got popular on the internet, man. It was— and, and there's a lot of fishy stuff along with that, you know. I don't like— I don't want to get into the conspiracy. No, no, I get it.

Yeah, well, who killed them? Yeah, but they got— but there's other cars that were similar to hydrogen that were running on like distilled water. I saw a guy one time, I went— actually went to the place because they were trying to get credit card processing. So this guy was like, oh yeah, I could turn any car into a green vehicle, right? So I go up there, was in West Palm Beach, and the guy's like showing me he's got like all this stuff in the car. In the back of the car was like really complicated. You couldn't— there was no trunk because the trunk was all full of stuff. Where the engine was, was all full of like water, and this car was running on basically on water.

That's awesome.

And I was like, what the hell?

Although there is—

and the guy goes and starts, and there was like a little lawnmower type of engine deal in there.

You know, you know, boilers are giant bombs, right? So I mean, there's that, right? I mean, but your car is essentially a giant bomb.

Yeah, it was full of gas, full of gas anyway, right?

Right. I— the, the thing that I've— but see, like, even before, that's how cars were running back in the day, you know, it was running on steam.

Right.

So this isn't new technology.

No, it's not new. It's just different.

And it's just advanced, right?

More advanced. So there's definitely— I think there's cleaner ways to get energy. Like these windmills, those are all whack too. Yeah, because they kill birds. They put a bunch of windmills out in the ocean and then it's killing the fish, the whole—

killing the birds. Kill switches on cars.

Yeah, that I don't agree with. I don't think the car manufacturers should be allowed to have kill switches. And I don't believe they should be able to make you keep a car for a year. I mean, there's homeowners communities now that I can understand. You're buying a home. They don't want people renting, right, homes out. But this car thing I don't agree with.

Why don't people like electronic EV cars?

Well, the problem is, let's say you had an EV car and you drive over here to work. Where are you going to charge that thing? There's no chargers over here. The Tesla guys, y'all, people install it in the back of their office and plug it into a regular plug, probably. Or they put in the— they spend $300, $400, $500.

Yeah, he definitely does not have the Tesla charger out.

No, there's a— there is one guy that has a Tesla charger down towards the end.

Oh, that is a Tesla charger?

Yeah, one of them.

The other one, the blue Tesla.

Yeah, there's 3 or 4 of them out back all the time. They're plugged into regular electricity.

That's what I'm saying. I've seen art, like, just extension cords going into—

yeah, there's extension cords. There's 2 or 3 people around here that have Teslas. I haven't seen one in the front. And the guy's got that—

blows my mind.

And the guy's got the— that's got a big orange extension cord running out to the car from the front door of his office.

Every time I see that, I just think of the meme of like, it's like, it's a Jeep, right? Right. And it's got a— it's got a generator in the back of the Jeep and a gas can next to the generator, and he's charging up— he's charging up the Tesla next to him, right? I'm like, if this isn't irony, you know what I'm saying?

Where's the electricity coming from that's charging up all these?

Yeah, it's just, you know, I like— we, you know, we're, we're evolving, right? We're trying to move forward, and so I get there's got to be steps in place, but some of this shit is—

yeah, but some of it's not smart because the Teslas and everything, these cars weigh more than a regular car, okay? So now you need bigger tires. So now those are made out of— no, no, I'm saying you're using bigger tires Right. A heavier car. It's doing more damage to the roads. Right. And then you're going to have this like giant Tesla truck thing. Right. Let's just say UPS starts driving around in electric UPS trucks, then those things are going to destroy the roads, destroy all the parking lots. Can you imagine how much they're going to weigh?

New York, New York will be sinking even faster.

No, I'm just saying, like, I don't think it's— I think like A lot of these technologies, I don't think it's very well thought out. Or you live in a place where my daughter lives and you drive 20 minutes outside of town or you want to go hiking, you couldn't even make it out there with an electric car.

For me, for living in South Florida, bro, what happens when there's hurricanes and everything's flooded? I mean, I've seen it so many times. I've lived here for 7 years. Well, look at Cali. Teslas floating down the street every time it floods, right? And then how are you going to get to gas station if, you know, like most of us who have regular gas-powered cars, right? But, you know, whatever, petroleum car, you know, uh, you fill up before the storm comes and you kind of, you know, it's like you play it by ear. Okay, man, it's time to hit the road.

We're out of here.

What happens if you walk outside and you're, you're like Oh, my Tesla's dead, right? Now what? It's just— I don't get it, man.

No, like in California, they have all these things going on and they tell people, well, sorry, you can't charge your EV cars tonight because we're having a shortage of electricity. We have an electric shortage. Then those people can't go to work in the morning.

You ever see the gas stations when there's just Teslas rolling around in circles waiting to get a spot? I'm like, dude, this is I couldn't do it.

I would— you live in it, and then they're building like all these apartment buildings.

Every one of them is equal.

Where are they going to put their— they don't have charging stations at all these apartments.

Well, I, I—

the new ones, yes.

Yeah, yeah. And the new ones, yeah. Because the— my— one of my little bros, he moved into the Dania Pointe over there, and, uh, I parked in his garage in the first— like the whole first row, like while you're going up a ramp, it's just Tesla charger, Tesla charger, Tesla charger. It's just the whole thing. So that's, I mean, that's cool. But no, but I'm just saying, I mean, what kind of energy are they using?

No, but I'm just saying, newer places have that. What about older places? They don't have that.

Well, back to Elon, man. So he, we, everyone knows he bought Twitter, right? And we talk about Twitter, we use Twitter for some of the— do you think Twitter has been better or worse since Elon took over?

Uh, I think that the whole thing charging for the blue checkmark thing, I don't think that's really done it. I don't think it's done justice to the amount of reach that you can get on the blue checkmark thing. I think you should be able to get one blue checkmark, and if let's say it's me and I have two businesses and I buy one blue checkmark, it's good for all three profiles.

Yeah, because we did that for you and it's only verified for Allen Kopelman.

No, for Nationwide Payments.

I mean, yeah, just for one business.

I think the checkmark, if you own a business—

yeah, like, how the hell is it the business is verified but not the owner?

Right?

I don't see it. Right. I don't get it.

I think that's like the checkmark thing.

I get—

I—

so I get what you're saying, but I also— I'm not a huge fan of the pay-to-play thing. Yeah.

And the same thing Facebook has it too now. Like, I'm getting these notes on Facebook every day. 'Oh, we can't monetize this video.' And then I go click on it and I'm getting like 10 of them a day. And these videos are from like 2018 that I posted.

Well, that's because they're trying to get you to spend more.

No, they just got sued about this music thing.

Well, that too.

So there's a whole thing.

Back to X. I think that the—

and if you go on TikTok now, a lot of the videos, there's no more music.

Yeah, no, yeah, that's good. But back to X, I think that The way that they're doing it is kind of messed up. Do I think that I like the verification process? Yes. I think that is a very smart move on Elon. I think that he should have left it as Twitter. So I don't say, I don't say that it's worse, because in my opinion, it's kind of better. The one thing that I have seen, like, and there's a lot of people, there is, it's a lot more risqué, right? There's a lot of stuff going on on Twitter that wasn't going on before, right? There is a lot more racism on Twitter that wasn't happening when the previous leadership was in charge. So I love the free speech that you are able to have, right? Because this is the United States of America, like, free speech. So let me just—

let me just say one thing. So, you know, and then Facebook has theirs. So LinkedIn just did a verified thing I like it. So you have to either use CLEAR if you fly, right, CLEAR, or you upload your driver's license.

I'm all for that, bro.

And I like it because when I go see a profile and it's not verified, verified, I'm not sure that's a little—

you got that in the back of your mind, like, this might not be that person, right?

Exactly.

With AI in play in the way that it's, you know, evolving, and, you know, people really need to be aware of like, who are they accepting friend requests from? Oh, this is the same. I already have this friend.

Why?

And then, you know, like, for instance, you'll get a friend request, for instance, from you again. Right? Right. But I already have Allen as a friend. Why am I getting a new one? You know, me being in knowing, oh, I should click. Well, that's because someone, you know, cloned your profile. Yeah. And is now going to, you know, do stuff as you. Right. So, you know, People got to be a little bit more aware and stuff like that.

I reported somebody.

I definitely agree with X going with the verification thing.

Yeah, but I think that they should do it a little bit differently.

I like how Instagram did it before, how they had— you had to be like a little bit more popular, right? You know, you had to have a certain amount of followers, views, etc., etc. Then you became verified. You know, I mean, I get that as far as a celebrity way, but for businesses, the verification process, I like it. I'm all for it. But to answer the question, is X better or worse?

I don't think it's any better or any worse. I think these platforms need to figure out a better way to verify people, do it cheaper, and then everything needs to be connected. If you own a business, your profile should be verified. And then if you, whatever, each business, maybe you pay a little bit extra and you just pay one fee.

Yeah, I mean, one fee to verify the owner of the business. If you own multiple businesses, you should— if what it like, I mean, come on, man. What if you own a chain of, what is Wingstop, like Rick Ross and what, now you have to pay to verify every location that you want?

That's not right.

That's not okay. No. I mean, that's a bad example because they probably wouldn't.

No, the other thing, like you were talking about the AI thing. So there's all these deepfakes. So one of them is Elon Musk deepfake and it's about some AI platform to trade stocks., and it's this whole video of Elon Musk. And if you don't make $1 million or some crazy amount, $50 grand, I'm going to give you a free Tesla. Well, it's all— it's a whole fake video. And really going on, it's going out everywhere. I have this video of Elon Musk. He's sitting in a chair talking. Really? Yeah. And I looked it up and I was like, is this real or fake? And it says it's fake. I mean, and there's a bunch of deepfakes of people advertising diets. There's a bunch of them of Mark Cuban, of Kelly Clarkson, of people from—

I've heard about it, but I haven't seen any of these.

Yeah, they're all over TikTok, Facebook.

I guess I'm not— I don't really check TikTok like that.

No, but I'm just saying they're on Facebook, they're on Instagram.

I don't really be— if I'm on Facebook, I'm scrolling my newsfeed. No, I'm just saying my newsfeed is very—

yeah, the newsfeed has gotten like really small lately.

It's sponsored ad after ad after ad.

Yeah. And there's a lot of links for like paid. Oh, you click a story and it's a paid— you have to pay to look at the story. No, I'm not doing that.

Right.

Not paying for all these news things that want you to pay for them.

How many profiles do you have on X right now?

Me? Just mine. Nationwide. B2B Vault.

And Rocky.

Rocky's not on X. He's on, he's on Instagram. Right. I don't really post much on there, on Instagram. Yeah, I just made a Rocky— I'm connect— it's connected to my Facebook, and then I just changed it to Rocky.

Yeah, man, I think, uh, I don't know, in my opinion, I think X is, is like you said, it's not gotten better or worse. It's, it's—

but I think all of these, like the same thing, like I verified myself for LinkedIn, right? So they should give me a check mark on Nationwide Payment Systems and B2B Vault.

Are those— are businesses verified on those other things?

No, they're not verified on any platforms.

No, I'm saying like other businesses, is there a verified check mark on them?

Nobody does. So you don't know if that's a real business or a fake business.

LinkedIn is, is evolving rapidly, and in my opinion, it has become a very, very— it's good, it's a good, good networking tool. I like, I like how— I like how X is immediate, right? Like, you can literally, if you see somebody say something, like, you know, somebody's tweet, you can add them, you know, most of the time they're gonna see that, right? Because it's, it's, it's, that's the way the platform was built. So I think that it helps that way. I think Elon Musk is nuts. I think that he should be spending his money instead of trying to leave Earth, he should be trying to fix Earth. Um, and but there's a lot of other things, uh, that we could say. You know, he's got a lot of money, man, so he could do what he wants. One of the richest people in the world themselves too. Like, that's what he could do. That's—

yeah, they talk about, oh, he lost a billion dollars today. I don't, I don't think that really affects him.

He doesn't care. That's a drop in the bucket, homie.

Right, exactly.

Anyway, man, that's today's podcast, the Elon Musk shame. I don't know, whatever you want to call it. But no, we're talking about a bunch of stuff. Shout out to you, man. Keep keep trying. So let's see what he does.

Let's see what he does if he does a payment platform and what he improves on.

And what about the tunnel? We didn't— you know, what happened to the tunnel?

He built the tunnel in Vegas.

Yeah, but it's only available for people with Teslas.

Really? Yeah, in Las Vegas.

Google it. That's the only people that can go through that tunnel.

They want to build— they want him to build a tunnel in Fort Lauderdale.

What about the tunnel that's supposed to go from Cali to the East Coast.

That's crazy.

That's awesome. But yeah, man, that's today's podcast. Hit us up, smash that subscribe button for us for the one time. Shout out to all the Spotify followers, we love you.

Peace.