Spreading Happiness Through Handwriting

Megan Taylor started All She Wrote Notes in 2013 with a single Etsy listing and grew it into a hand-lettering brand sold in major retailers. She opened a studio in Gibsonville, NC, built the business debt-free through licensing deals and teaching, and now creates video content around her mission of spreading happiness through handwriting.
Questions this video answers
2013
Gibsonville, North Carolina
500 Walmart stores (stated as 'about to have our collection in 500 Walmart stores')
Started with one set of note cards on Etsy, posted from an iPhone 4; first sale occurred a couple days later.
Three books published, with a fourth on the way.
Chapters
Oh, if I could just bundle up this conversation and the positive vibes and the excitement that I get from this conversation and share it with you every day when you need it most, I would. I am so pumped for you to meet my friend Megan Taylor, who is the artist and the owner behind all she Wrote Notes. She is a fellow member of the Boutique Hub and retail boot camp and she has an incredible business. You guys, I am so excited for you to deep dive and to dissect this. How she has not only built her business as an artist, but also with licensing agreements, her business as a retailer with a showroom and a wholesale company and an e commerce site, and how she gives back and really inspires other people. You guys, she is a ray of sunshine and I am feeling so energized and charged after hearing her speak. So I will not keep you waiting. Get to meet my friend, Megan Taylor, the owner of all she Wrote Notes. Let's talk about your business strategy and the juicy details of what actually works from mainstream fashion to fashion on Main street and the entire ecosystem behind it. How do we scale your company and do it with the balance and the happiness that we all seek? Let's hear from those insiders, experts and strategists that actually make it happen. I'm your host, Ashley Alderson from the Boutique Hub and I can't wait to chat.
Hey, guys, welcome back. This week, this is going to be the High Energy Awesome Experience podcast. I am so pumped for this, Megan, with all she Wrote Notes, the artist, the founder, you are a creative business owner, let me just say. And we are going to discover some awesome things today. Thank you for being on the show with me.
Thank you so much. I'm a big fan, I'm a listener, and I'm so honored to be here.
And a part of the Boutique Hub on top of it. I love that. So when I first started to dig into your business, Megan, I was like, wait, okay, she does this and then she does that and then she does this. Like, this is so unique. I love everything you have going on and it's bright and beautiful and colorful on top of it. So before we get into all the weeds, just take me back and tell me about what you do from the start.
Yes, absolutely. I started my company in 2013. I am a lettering artist and a calligrapher. I'm an author. And that came about much later in the company. And then now, as of this past year, I actually have a storefront studio in Gibsonville, North Carolina. And so our growth has Been very slow and steady along the way, but uniting everything. My mission is spreading happiness through my handwriting, Ashley. So that is always the thread that binds it all together. And it's just been a really awesome journey.
How did you first discover, like, were you. When you were really little, you discovered you had this gift, like, the gift of art that was always like, creative side of your brain.
I would say middle school is really where I just fell head over heels in love. I was the girl that carried around the bag of markers. I love passing notes in class. Even my name, Megan, is spelled funny. It's M, A G, H, O, N, which is not how you spell Megan. Like, my mom made that up. She said that she spelled it that way because it looked prettier to write. So all along, good call, mom. My grandmother was a very creative artist. I watched her sell art, like in her front yard and sell, you know, those cool T shirts with the puffy paint and the sweatshirts and just people in the community knew of her and knew who she was because of her art. And so in the back of my mind, I knew that was a possibility. I went to school, I did broadcast journalism was my main dream. I have way too much of a southern accent to make that happen, so. So I got into event planning and actually sports marketing for about seven or eight years. And I started my hand lettering and calligraphy company on the side. I was working full time. A lot of people want to start their business because they want to leave their job, but I loved my job. I was working at my alma mater, which is Carolina unc, and it was wonderful. I loved all the energy, I loved everything about it. But I just really missed being creative and found myself coming home from work and doing calligraphy, doing art. I was in a season where a lot of friends were getting married and just opportunities were coming up that they needed lettering and they needed that for their wedding. And so my business started with one set of note cards on Etsy in 2013. I did not have Internet. I was posting from my iPhone 4. And we made our very first sale a couple days later to someone that we didn't know. And just one thing at a time, we. The rest is history. So now we're about to actually this week gonna have our collection in 500 Walmart stores. We're in shelves nationwide. Yeah, we started with one set of brown kraft paper handwritten note cards and now we're in Walmart.
Okay. There's a lot to unpack right there. Like, you can't just drop it. Like it's hot and walk away. That's amazing. So, first of all, let me go back, because the first thing I heard you say that really popped out at me was, you watched your grandma, right?
Yes.
And I feel like so many times with art specifically, everyone's like, oh, great, you have this gift, but what would you actually do with it? Like, a lot of people have a hard time monetizing being an artist. So was there a pain point in there for you? Was there a struggle of, like, okay, I'm going to make these cards, but, like, do I really believe people are going to buy them? And, like, how is this going to take off? How did you start from the very beginning and start to grow from that point forward?
I never had the end goal in mind. I didn't put all the pressure on my little cute Etsy shop to be a nationwide company, a big brand. I was just having fun. I was putting my creative energy into something that I loved and that I enjoyed. And, Ashley, it grew, like, literally one word, one letter at a time. And, I mean, there are big things happening now. And I work so hard, and I believe that God has put a lot of things in my path, But I did not have those goals or those dreams back then. I was just creating for the fun of it, for the joy of it. And in a lot of ways now, if it ever becomes not fun, if it ever becomes something that I'm not creative and I'm not passionate about, I know that something needs to change.
Yeah. I think what you said a minute ago, you said I was just having fun. And I think if all of us could go back to the most successful seasons of our business, that would be the common thread that's weaved throughout. And I'm sure you can speak to this, too. Are there moments where you're like, you know what? I'm not having fun in this moment. I need to go back and, like, change something. And that's true for me, too. And I know it's true for so many successful businesses. Talk to me about those moments. Like, if you feel like, oh, this isn't fun, how do you bring it down?
Yeah, something huge for me. A big dream I had later on. And once I figured this out, oh, this has wheels. Like, this is moving. This is a business. I wanted to be able to see my art on shelves in stores. I thought that was would be amazing. I taught lettering classes in boutiques nationwide, so I was constantly in stores. I was driving my car, I was flying on planes, like, going in small shops, like, for Years and years. And I thought it would be really cool if they could sell my stuff. And so I got some amazing licensing partners, like some amazing licensing opportunities where I'm actually selling my artwork to a much larger company and then they're going to market, selling it, producing it, like all those things, which is amazing. Like, I love that model. I love it so much even now.
But.
But there was a season where actually, as we all know, like, our lives kind of got flipped on their head in 2020. And all of my live events, which was my bread and butter at the time, were overnight canceled. And I started to just try to shift my weight onto the other foot. Like, okay, we've made these products, we can make things. Like, we can sell more items. And I'd always had an online shop, but that wasn't my number one source of income. It was actually the in person events. And so it was in 2020, we really put a lot of effort and force into product creation and like having that stuff made and manufactured, having it shipped on pallets to my garage at my house, like, it was so crazy. And that piece, when I got out of the in person and when I got out of actually physically writing, because so much of it was like digital and design, I was missing a piece. Like, I was missing. My favorite part was the people and the actual writing. And it's. That was what started everything. But we had grown, which was amazing, and we had chase a passion and followed a dream. And I wouldn't change anything because that's what kept us afloat. Like, that's what kept us alive in 2020. But I really missed just the art and the people so much. And I knew as soon as I could, I had to get back to that.
I love that, that that's such a huge piece because so many times as businesses grow in scale, it's like they lose that. Like they, they go back in, like hibernate in running and working in the business and not necessarily on the business so much, and they get lost. I have to go back to a decision that you said you had to make about licensing, right? Like, I wanted to see my product in stores, on shelves. A lot of people make that choice, but then they decide, okay, I'm going to make these things and I'm going to directly wholesale them myself. You, however, decided to go the licensing route. How did you like weigh that decision and come to make that decision?
I've always been a party of one. Meaning, like, I'm the one employee, I hired one of my best friends about A year ago. And she comes one day a week, two days a week, and helps me pack orders. But I knew for wholesale, I knew what that took. Unless you have a really strong passion for clear bags and like the little strip that has static and gets stuck to your finger, like I knew I would be cussing that. I knew it would not be good for me if I was having to like produce and package all of that by myself. I know now, years later, you can hire that out, you can find other companies, you can go bigger, they can do that for you. But back then I felt like it was going to be too much for me to take on. And I was approached by a company from my same state, another woman owned business that I, you know, just had a really great opportunity for us to grow together and kind of figure this out with each other. And we're still working together now. And so like being able to just at the beginning I was just selling my letters and selling my words. I didn't really have a ton of input on what would be made. And then sometimes I would walk into an anthropology and be like, oh, I read that, like, oh look, I wrote that. That's so cool. I would buy it like at the full, pay full price and like bring it home because I was so excited. And now years later, I think we've just both seen the value of collaboration. And like I come up with ideas, I come up with sayings, it's, it's all my colors now, which are all the colors, you know, super bright rainbow colors. And like now it's much more of like my brand instead of my writing. So yeah, that's grown over time. And I've got several licensing partnerships with different companies. I mentioned I'm an author, I've had three books published with a fourth on the way. And I've actually been able to create licensing opportunities there. So one of the books is a children's book and they wanted to make a doll and a book bag and a keychain and like all these assets to go along with the children's book. And so that's just another opportunity to, you know, create those licensing partnerships. And that's been huge for me because a big passion that I've had since the beginning of my company is trying to remain debt free, like not going in the hole, like not doing credit cards or loans to be able to grow and scale. And when you're partnering with someone that's that much bigger than you, they're ordering a thousand of it. I can buy a hundred, like from them. And that has been able to just let me feel lean, feel creative, feel settled, and not feel stressed and afraid of the money piece that I know is probably still my biggest struggle is cash flow. But being able to grow slow and steady and just not get too far out for my skis.
Yeah, that's so important. I'm a huge Dave Ramsey fan.
Yes.
So a lot of that is at the core of me I totally agree with. And I'm thinking of so many people that I know in and out of the Hub that are amazing artists, and they feel like their only route is to go put it on a T shirt. And then all of a sudden, now they're. They're in a screen printing shop doing what they really don't want to be doing because they want to be creating the art. So talk to me about if someone is listening today and they're like, okay, Megan, what is a licensing agreement? How does that work? How do I find a partner, and how do I make sure I don't get taken advantage of? What advice would you give them?
I would say find brands that you already like to shop with, that you already are drawn to. Like, if you walked into a store and you're like, oh, I love this slant coaster, or I love this mud pie thing, or, you know, I, like, find brands that you already align with that you feel like your art aligns with. And I think that's going to just be an easier, happier partnership. I met most of my connections, like, at market, like, going to market and going to their booth, getting, you know, not interrupting, because at that time, I was not a buyer. I just wanted to, like, immerse myself in the brand, like, get to know what they're about. I was a customer, like, of these brands, Both of my biggest partnerships. I was a customer of both brands before we. We ended up working together. And so it. I think just finding somebody that has similar values to you, like, just someone that you trust, like, you're going to ride the wave. We've had highs, we've had lows together, but just finding somebody that, at the end of the day, you know, y' all come back and, like, you're on the same page. Like, you have the same heart. You have the same, like, vision and goals, and then just having contracts, you know, like, having one of the companies I work with, that's Hallmark. Like, my publisher, Day Spring, is owned by Hallmark. And so their legal team is, like, tremendous. So, I mean, they just. They're so quick. They have a contract for everything, and, like, Just having your trusted people to be able to look over that. I'm not great at negotiating, but something like don't being afraid to ask for more, like, hey, we haven't raised my rate in four years and I actually think my brain's a little bit more valuable now than it was four years ago. So like, can we try this again? Or you know, being able to negotiate like for me, a huge piece of it that I make a little bit of money licensing but actually make more buying it and then turning around and selling it back. And I learned from you a lot in the Hub about what your margins need to be, you know, not just a 50% markup, like maybe trying to push that higher and higher. And so I renegotiated one of my licensing contracts on the latest book to give me a 75% discount so that when I buy them myself, I'm getting that deep, deep discount and then I'm turning around and marking them back up. So like, yes, I'll get my commission. I but actually it's more valuable to me on that margin piece.
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That is dynamite. If you guys are listening, like, oh, please rewind and listen to that. Good for you for negotiating that. That's brilliant. And then you own your brand. Like, they can license it out. And yes, that gets you into Walmart and Anthro. I mean, that's pretty cool. But for you to then build your own brand. So what other lessons have you learned in terms of then buying your own wholesale back right from this agreement and then scaling your brand? Are there lessons you feel like you've learned big along the way?
I think just not having all your eggs in one basket has been a hard lesson. Over time, we have started to dip our and manufacturing. We always did stickers, we always did magnets. We always did T shirts actually with the local vendor. But I've started doing my own overseas manufacturing lately. That is like a whole thing like that. I'm not passionate about that, but I know that just for like, our future and our infrastructure, we need a backup plan. Like, if, if you are hitched to this car and that cart goes down, like, what's going to happen to you? So I just want a more diverse, like, portfolio, like, in a lot of ways and just being able to, to just be able to not have everything on one page. Like, maybe you do home decor with someone, maybe you do T shirts with someone. Maybe you do, you know, wall art. Like, there's just different areas. Like drinkware. You could kind of pick one company that, that you really go deep with them on that item, but then maybe try somebody else for something different. And I, at the very beginning, like, I was just very siloed. Like, I had one person I wanted to be so loyal. Like, we were married. I was like, us and them. But then other opportunities came along and it actually benefits everyone. Like, you know, a rising tide lifts all. But so, like, if I'm able to make my brand larger, they're still going to benefit from that because it's more recognizable, you know, when they're in a store. More people have seen it, it's had a wider distribution and, you know, just like learning as you go. Like, not being afraid to, to try things, you know, or to, to ask like, if you don't ask, the answer is always going to be no. So just putting it out there and asking and trying to keep, like, one of the hardest parts for me is like, I. I want everyone to be happy. I want everyone to. To love me. I don't want to be, like, issues or conflict or stress or worries and, like, being able to receive a business decision that isn't personal. Like, when something is cut because the margins weren't making it right. It wasn't that your idea was bad. It was. They just. I mean, it's cheaper for them to do it a different way. And understanding and knowing that, you know, that keeps me going like that I gotta keep it up. The whole mission, you know, is positivity and happiness. And so I just can't get knocked down on hard days and, like, hard moments or things like that. You just gotta keep it rolling and know that God's gonna take care of it. Something else is gonna come your way.
Yeah. That's so good. Such good advice. Such good advice. Because I'm sure, as an artist, like, that's a piece of you.
It is.
It feels so personal. I think about that even, like, with our graphic design team, when I get feedback on things they send in and I'm like, truly, I hate that. And they're like, it's o. No big deal. Like, I don't take it personal. I mean, that is a gift. But it's the same if you have a retail business and you. And you really have to analyze the numbers and say, okay, what is my margin per category, per vendor? Right. Per style? Or, you know, did I just get too attached because I drank three margaritas while I bought this at market last time? Like, what really was going on? That's really, really good feedback. Are there other lessons you feel like you've had to learn the hard way as you've scaled your business?
I think buying, like, I don't. I don't. I used to have only maybe 12 products that we were working on together. And every time the orders would come around, I would be like, I want at least 100. I want to start with 100 of everything. Like, my people were excited. I didn't care. If I sat on it for a year, I. I wanted it in there. I just wanted to just have it. You know, if someone posted on Instagram six months later, guess what? You can still get it. Come on over. But we were still ordering hundreds. And then our quant, like, our product skus increased to, like, 50. And your girl does not have Room for that many items. And so I just hit this moment, like, oh my goodness. Like, we're outgrowing, like, everything. And since you're trying to buy more and trying to pay cash, like, just getting a hold of that, like, it felt like I was lassoing like a horse.
Like, it.
I. I just didn't. It grew faster than, like, my mind caught up with it. So we overbought on, like, certain pieces that, like, I would give you if you would pull. Like, I don't want them, I don't like them. I don't even post about them. Like, it's just funny, like, certain things because I was just kind of in that autopilot, but now I feel like I have a better handle on, like, A, how much space we have, B, like, how much money is okay to sit there. And then I've learned a lot, like, with you, like, in the hub, like, turning things over, like, knowing when to, like, let it go, you know, and that, that was a lot of hard lessons to learn sometimes. Like, but, you know, we were figuring it out. And in 2020, when the events were canceled, when we started doing more product, I kind of mentioned we were starting to have, like, bigger and bigger shipments come to our home, which is where I had run the business for the whole first eight years. And my husband Chris, bless his heart, he was home furloughed from work, and he was like, oh my God, there is shit in our garage, in our dining room, in our guest room, in our attic. Like, how are you doing this? He was blown away. He could not even. I mean, I'd been doing it for years, but he was never there. So he just didn't know and didn't see it. And he was like, you've got to get this out of the house. How are you even. This is not efficient. And he very lovingly gave me a push out of the nest, saying, that's all she wrote from here. You gotta do something else. And I bought a building. So I knew there was a really cute town about five minutes from my house that feels like a Hallmark movie. We spent our Saturdays there, and I knew that's where I wanted to be. I bought a 80 year old doctor's office and paid cash for the building. And then my dad and I worked alongside each other for a year and a half, renovating to what is now our studio and our storefront. And it was amazing the way that, like, God worked that out and made that happen, because I never had that dream. I didn't want to move. I Didn't want more space, I didn't want a store. And. And there were so many other opportunities that I was actually pursuing and chasing actually LA TV shows, like opportunities like that when Covid happened and I was like, okay, well I thought this is what we're doing. And had I pursued that, I would never have this. And just the way that it all came together, like honestly, even in 2020, in 2021, not traveling like I used to, I had the time to be here. Like I, I physically worked with my dad with hammers and nails and saws to build this place. And now I wouldn't trade that for anything in the world. Like that time with him, like truly putting in the sweat, the tears, the blood. Like I did it. And to sit here now a year and a half later, we own the business, we own the building now. It took years off my, that way. Like, I don't necessarily know that I would like do it exactly the same way again, but it's amazing and it's exactly where I was supposed to be. I feel so at home. I feel like we're being able to really put our mission out into the community now. Whereas I was trying to run all over the world, now I'm here and I'm being able to bring people here and it's the best thing in the world.
Oh man. Everything happens for a reason. I'm such a firm believer. Right. God only gives you what you can handle and leave that to you on purpose. I love that you must thinking about that transition right through 2020. And also given your background in broadcast journalism, video has to be a big part of what you do. Talk to me about video marketing and your brand.
So that's something huge that we actually have just started. Like I've always been on stories, I've always had like a good branding video or whatever, but we have not invested in that until just recently. And so we're going to be launching actually this month a web series called make it with Megan. And I'm going to be doing like craft like short five to seven minute video segments. Trying to, it's almost like I, I shifted. I used to be everywhere. Now I'm just here. People are coming here and I'm like, wait, now I want to, I want to give this experience to other people that are at home. And so we're, we're not at this, at this plan. There's no plan to charge for it. We just want to give that content and push that out to be able to bless other people. But we have fun projects planned, like, all kinds of seasonal words and phrases. And we actually. The broadcast journalism connection. I was on the news locally, and one of the anchors came to me and were like, hey, I have a production company. Would you want to work with us to produce this show for you? And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, 100%, yes. Like, sign me up.
Oh, that's awesome. That must also for you, like, tie into PR a little bit, because you have such a great story to share. How have you been able to leverage, like, media connection, media relationships, to tell your story and just to serve others in a unique way?
I've never paid for advertising, but we have gotten a lot of local exposure just with different events and different things we've done. We went on a book tour in 2019 and went to 11 states. And in a lot of those states, I was able to go on their local station and teach a craft or teach something. And then just being able to have that, you know, those clips and that reel to be able to show whenever we pitch ourselves, you know, anywhere, like here, locally, we're able to be on Hallmark, Coleman family before they went away. And that's really the. The chance, like, that's the direction I wanted to go so bad. And then now we're, like, all the way back around, and we're just doing it ourselves. So, like, until a network like Joanna picks me up or something, we're going to be putting this on YouTube, you know, on our own channels, and just being able to, like, my dream. Like, if you had asked me, you know, five years ago, what do you want to do? Like, I would have said, I want to be my generation's Bob Ross. Like, I want to teach for free on tv. I want to, like, give positive, like, you know, little nuggets that you can carry with you. Like, yes, we're doing art, but this is about life, too.
That's so good. Who would have thought Bob Ross would have such a life cycle? Like, he has my kids, literally. This is so random that you say that. My kids were talking about Bob Ross on the way to school today, and they're 8, 11, and 12. Like, why do you know who Bob Ross is? But I think what you've created that's so beautiful is you. You've built a real lifestyle brand, and it's not about selling products. And I think every single boutique owner under the sun needs to hear this. Whether you sell apparel or kids or lifestyle or whatever, whatever you sell, it's not about selling the product. And you're such Evidence of that. It's about serving people and meeting them where they are and really like giving them content that they can use or education or just that feel good piece. And then the product sells itself.
It does. And I feel like when you have that mission, like, our mission is spreading happiness. So everything we make, everything we say, every video, every post is run through that filter, right? Like, I want to make art that's going to sell you this feeling. So when you buy that, when you bring that happy tumbler into your home, it's going to. You're going to elevate your mood. Like, when you have that art and you. All these products that we make, we say it's like we put the fun and functional. Like it's stuff that you use. Like it's stuff that you use every day and you're going to see it every day. And I am such a believer that our words, that we surround ourselves with matter and we get to put that art on products and people are reading those words and absorbing those words. And I think it's a feeling like it's that energy that we're being able to put out into the world. And now that we have our storefront, like, now that we have our studio, like, I stand by the door and watch people walk in and they just light up. Like, their face, like, you see it. Like, we've created like an immersive experience. Like, no detail is left unturned. I'm a huge Disney fan. Like, we, like, that's the kind of energy, especially when we were building it ourselves. Like, the sky was the limit. Like, anything I could dream up, my dad and I could do, and we did it. And now we're only open the first Saturday of every month for shopping. But people line down the block to come in, they get so excited, they put it on their calendar, they show up, they come in here. We say it's the book fair energy. So I have been chasing the high of the Scholastic Book fair my entire life. I like, there was no better day in school than the book fair. Like, I've actually not to brag. I'm volunteering at my son's book fair on Monday. So I will not be here. I will be at the book fair. But that is what I wanted to capture. Like, I wanted that feeling for customers, like, when they're excited the night before and looking on the website like, okay, when I get there, I'm going to get these three things and this is my budget and this is what I'm going to do. And it's gives me chills to, like, tell you that, because we see it, like, we built it and we made it happen. And then, you know what? The book fair heads out of town, and we'll see you back in a few more weeks. Like, we'll see you. Yes.
Oh, I love that analogy. That's so spot on. Oh, my gosh. There are so many other things I could just deep dive into. But I think, like, what you're saying right now is possible for every single person listening. And I just want to sit in that moment because what you're excited about, you sell. And that is so evidenced in your brand. And that's so evidenced in every single one of our brands. Right. If there's boutique owners who are listening, who want to, like, how can I carry your product? Or how can I learn more or how can I just be your friend and collaborate with you? What's the West? What's the best way for boutique owners to do that?
Yes, my Instagram is all she wrote notes. Our website, allstherotenotes.com and then we have wholesale collaborations with Mary Square, with Michelle McDowell, with DaySpring. That's where all my books are from. We also have a collaboration with Kingfolk Co that is like custom Bibles and Bible tabs and hoping and praying for lots more of those opportunities. So we are just so grateful and so honored, you know, to even be here. Like, this is beyond my wildest dreams. Like, everything that I'm getting to do, I just say, you know, I'm just so grateful every single day. Like, I'm just happy that this gets to be my job and happy that, you know, I get to be able to bless other people in the process.
I love that. Megan, last question. And I know you've heard me ask this question before, but you and I both know this is not about products. You know, it's not about, like, this moment in time, but it's about what you leave behind. So when you're sitting on that front porch 30 years from now and you're reflecting on all that you've had this opportunity to build and create, be a part of, what's the thing that you hope people do remember most about you and your journey, I want them to.
Remember how I made them feel. Like, how it made them feel to be here, to be in our store, to feel seen. I literally write their names down. That's my favorite thing to do, lettering their name. And I just want them to feel known and to feel seen and just to know that the little things in life are so worth celebrating. You don't have to wait for a special occasion. Life is a special occasion. Our big thing is confetti. Literally. Confetti is trash that chose a happier life and looking for ways that you can turn like hard seasons, hard things, mistakes, into something good. Like what good can come out of that. And we're constantly making confetti. And I hope that that legacy gets to stay with me for the rest of my life.
That's beautiful. I love that. Megan, thanks so much for being on the podcast today. Your energy is just so contagious. This is wonderful. I really appreciate getting to chat with you and everyone who's listening. Of course, you are also inside a member of the Boutique Hub. We're so grateful for that as well. So thanks for sharing your story with us today.
Thank you, Ashley. Thanks for having me.
You bet.
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