How I Tell the Team After We Fire Someone

If you're a founder that's either let someone go or is worried about letting someone go because you're thinking about all of the emotional backlash and drama that might happen, then this video is for you. In one of my companies, we let someone go yesterday. Today, I'm going to go into the morning meeting and address the potential drama that could happen as a result. I'm going to do that by just opening the floor and acknowledging the presence of emotions that are all normal to have after someone gets let go. I'm going to show you how I do that in this video. If you don't know who I am, my name is Luke Murray. I'm a former physician, been an entrepreneur for about 20 years. During that time, I've done about $100 million in revenue. I currently have a portfolio that does about $3 million in revenue, and I make these videos because I'd like to have ambition without the bullshit, and I'm guessing you would too. Let's go to this morning meeting. Alright guys, so does anyone have any guesses as to why I'm here and why I wrote our 5 core values or our 5 emotions on the board?

I'm guessing it's because we lost a member of the team?

We did, yeah. So I'm here because we let go yesterday. And in a normal company, what happens— actually, what do you think would happen in a normal company? And you don't get to answer this question. You don't get to answer either, boss. What? Yeah, okay, that's definitely wrong. In a normal company, in a regular old company, what would happen?

You don't talk about it.

Yeah, well, the boss would say don't talk about it, but what are you all motherfuckers gonna do? Like, y'all find out what happened? Oh my gosh, I can't believe it!

That's crazy!

They probably wouldn't have been in a Yeah, the stories, stories, which they're just a whole bunch of dramatic bullshit would have just— there'd just be energy leaking out of every hole in this room, and I don't want that. So a lot of times when people are asking like what happened when they want gossip, there's lots of reasons why we gossip, um, but what they're really doing is just not feeling the emotions that they have. Maybe they're angry. We're gonna go through this. But they go up in their heads and they're like, I bet you it's because of this, and it's about time, or I can't believe it. And so instead of having those kind of conversations, because those are all just bypassing, man, I'm really sad, or man, I think, I think Loretta made a mistake, or I'm pissed that Loretta Took her so damn long. You know, whatever your opinions are, like, those are all just like feelings that don't— that are not being processed, just spinning around in your head. So that's what we're gonna do. And the way I'm gonna go through this is I'm gonna just start, and I, I had you guys randomly pick them. I'm gonna force us to go in this order, okay? So for each one of these, we're gonna do a survey of how much joy is in the room, how much sadness, fear, and I'm going to let you guys name what's driving that emotion. Okay? And I will start because I want you guys to see that I have— do I have all these? Yeah, I got all of them. I've got all of them. So I will start and say, hey, I'm feeling this. And then you guys, I want you to raise your hands if you have it or not. And I will share like, hey, I'm— I'll just go ahead and get started. I'm feeling joy. Feeling, uh, for me that feels like lightness in my shoulders, like I can take a deeper breath. Because if Loretta made this decision, I trust Loretta completely. That's why she has her job. That means that she felt like she couldn't breathe and like move. And so that probably means that like she can like take a deeper breath. That's just a story I have.

I haven't Yeah.

And honestly, like, I don't plan on going and talking to every single one of you about every single story you possibly have. But because I have that story about her, like, I am feeling joy. And it feels in my body like I could just open up my lungs a little bit more because I have a story that she can't. So there's one vote for joy. Anybody else? And I'm okay to stand alone. This is not you being like everyone has to agree. But anybody else feel some joy? 1, 2, 3, okay, 4. All right, so that's 4 joy votes.

Cool. Can I preface that— or not preface it, maybe, uh, but like, can you say not, yeah, she's got— but just that lightness?

And, um, well, I wanna— I, I'm glad that we did this because the first time I did this, I didn't put joy up here and I didn't put creative energy because— and because of exactly what Loretta was starting to do. She's like, starting to maybe judge, like, I don't want to judge the joy. And you're allowed to feel all of the feelings as much as you want to feel them, including, yay, she's gone, let's party! Like, that is an okay feeling to feel.

Yeah.

You're also allowed to feel, and we'll get there, like, fucking pissed at your boss for doing something that you fundamentally disagree with. You're allowed to. And I want to do it in front of God and everybody. Get your ass up here. You love this emotion. Because, because otherwise you're going to have that in there and it's going to come out sideways. That's what this is for. Okay, so I don't want you to go first. I want you to go last. So who raised their hand? You didn't raise your hand. Uh, Johnna, um, we let go yesterday.

Yeah.

And so we are allowed to feel all of the feelings about that. Um, so, uh, I feel some joy. 4 other people felt some joy today. Do you feel any joy about that? Yes or no?

No.

No.

Okay, great.

All right, go ahead.

What do you want me to—

are we still on joy?

Yeah, yeah.

I just like—

so I said I feel joy, and for me that means like the ability to breathe more. What does that mean to you? What does—

I also feel that way. Um, I think the team is, um, I don't know how to say it, is going to be better. Okay, I think the— yeah, I feel like— I feel that too, like there was a weight and now it's just gone.

Okay, how about you, G?

Similar way, like there was a weight and it's not on my shoulders anymore.

A little lighter.

Okay, how about you, Gary?

There's a cloud of nervousness. She was here and I think that's lifted to where we can get back to the way we were before. Okay, when I first started this job, or the first Few months of it, how it was.

I think that kind of there's a cloud of nervousness.

You know what I mean? On the weekends, walking around nervous, you know, and worried about your job kind of thing. And I think that's gone. Great.

Now you can go, and you're allowed to. You're allowed to feel however you want. Glad that she demonstrated right out of the gate. By the way, it's not okay to be happy, is it? It's like that was very, very good examples.

So yeah, my my joy is. That feeling of just lightness. I can breathe.

Okay.

Yeah, I just, I feel lighter.

Great, that's wonderful.

Cool.

Sad. I feel sad. Anybody feel sad? 1, 2, 3. Okay, 4 sadnesses. So to 5 sadnesses.

All right.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Yeah. Can I say something?

You're allowed to say something, Floyd. Go for it.

When I say that, I mean, I didn't— I don't have joy. I didn't mean that what she said, that she don't know, you know what I mean? I don't think she knows what she's doing, you know what I mean? It makes me feel like I— it makes me feel like I said that I think you don't know what you're doing when I said that. You see what I'm saying?

I do. And what do you guys hear him doing?

So, so Loretta—

yeah, yeah, exactly. So Loretta judged herself for feeling joy, and she's like, guys, I just want to apologize for a certain way that I feel. And he's like, I want to apologize for a way that I don't feel. So like, just feel however you feel, man. Yeah. That's great that you did that though. That you don't support her, I guess.

Yeah.

Cool. Everybody see how that was a story that he made up? Do you see that that's a story that you made up?

Yeah. Good.

I'm so proud of you guys.

All right, cool.

So I'm sad. Um, the reason that I'm sad is because I don't think that she was not doing her best.

Yeah.

That's just what her best looked like. And there's a, um, a, uh, you know, our, our motto is, um, everyone gets a chance. Um, I think the other half of that motto needs to be, if you can't keep up, you can't come. So like, everyone, like, everyone gets a chance. But I don't know. No child left behind is not our model or employee or whatever. No participation trophies. Yeah, I don't know how we keep working on that marketing part. All right, so I'm gonna let you go first about sadness. So I know that she did her best. I know that she's got a hard life. Everybody does, but I have particular awareness of some of the struggles she's gone through, and I'm just sad that someone I care about is struggling. So how about you, John?

I feel sad because I had a long overdue clearing conversation with her very recently, and like the flow of things between us had improved tremendously, you know. And I talked to her about some things that I really wanted to give her from our core values, and like you can't just be like, here are these things, like, have them.

Uh-huh.

And now that can be yours and you can do better. And I just wanted to see her do better. And it makes me sad that she wasn't able to, like, step up to those places that she was lacking. And it makes me sad that, um, I saw it have a negative impact on other people and, you know, just some discord and disharmony among our team. And that made me feel very sad.

So, uh, so your sadness was seeing the, um, the discontent or the struggles of the team, and sadness about like lost potential that you kind of saw once you did have more of a clear conversation with her?

Yeah, she was my friend, and like, I just love people.

Yeah.

You know, I just—

I don't want her to cry because like, I just, I just want her to be Better, you know what I mean? Because like we all have that potential to like grow and change in whatever ways are necessary. And like I've been on both sides of it where I struggle and I don't ever need to work, you know?

And it's just— I've, I've gotten cut from some teams myself because I wasn't good enough, so, and it made me—

I cried.

I was sad to see her change, and the only sadness really from her leaving would be knowing that she got babies at home, not knowing how that's going to affect her, you know. I know it's not my responsibility, but—

Sure, yeah.

I know what I'm saying. I still think about it. I've raised 4 kids, so I know what's— what most of them would have. But I guess the biggest part was seeing her change, you know. That was sad. That was the saddest part of all of it.

Going from doing it the way she was when I got here.

Oh, to—

You know what I mean? By the end of it. And it just, that really bothered me because I liked her a lot when I started. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Thank you very much.

How about you, Floyd?

You guys, no sadness over here, right?

Mine was pretty much what he said, but I mean, I, I got a relationship with her that I'm gonna be really close, you know. I think she just—I think what happened was she she just took too much on. She had too much going on. She had school. I mean, I know a lot of you guys, other guys, is doing the same thing, but but she was—I mean, there's some things that happened to her that she—I mean, I just don't think she could handle that all at one time. And I was I was going to talk to her about trying to before this happened. John to step down before it did happen, but I just didn't get a chance to.

Okay, so this is interesting. So there's some sadness or some blame about, oh, I could have maybe helped her. Sounds like John was kind of trying to do the same thing, and so you're kind of like sad that, hey, I feel a little bit responsible that I could have helped get her in the right and appropriate spot. Okay. How about you, Elaine?

I am definitely sad. Um, I'm sad that I hadn't talked. I felt like I hurt somebody.

Mm-hmm.

Um, and I'm sad that I know that the decision I made is making somebody else's life harder today, and I don't ever want to make anybody's life harder. And I'm just sad that I know today that she is struggling even more than she already was.

Hey guys, who wants to, like, um, this is my job, is the job. Y'all, you get to feel badly. I should have given her advice.

You know?

Or, I wish I could have leaned in a little bit more. Like, her job is to say, mother of 4 children, you do not have any more money. Like, that sucks. That's super heavy. And one of the ways that a normal company would process that would be to call HR and to, like, step away from the relationship and not feel the, like, the consequences of your actions. And I don't want to live in that kind of company. But that means I need an extremely special kind of leader to care as much as Loretta cares about all of you guys, and to recognize that your guys is the— we haven't even got through all these, but the cloud and the heaviness and the pressure, like, this is her responsibility. Your guys is the energy and the clarity. And the effectiveness of the whole team is her job. So anyway, just think twice before you're like, I want to be in management, uh, because that sucks.

I've been there and I know it's not fun.

It's not fun. Okay, everybody go 1, 2, 3, 4. Yeah, right away. All right, cool. Fear. Um, my fear is— so I feel it. How many other fears we got? How much more fear we got in the room? 1, 2, 3 fear, 4 fear.

All right, cool.

So I'm afraid that you guys will be discouraged by this and you won't work as much, or you won't— yeah, actually, I'm afraid that you will be afraid and won't do as good of a job because you're afraid. So one— just 4 of you guys? All right. 1, 2, 3, 4.

I didn't raise my hand, but can I say something?

Yeah, cool. Go for it.

I think it'll be the exact opposite.

It probably will be, but emotions don't need logic.

They're kind of— I know, I'm just saying.

I mean, I mean, I feel like it probably will be. Uh, it has every single time we've let someone go. This is at least the number 13 at this point. Thank you for the low number. Yeah, so it's 14. Okay, all right, go ahead. Uh, and I want to make sure we're doing this. I can feel In our bodies, we can talk about the story a little bit. I just don't want to get caught up too much in the story. We're trying to hear each other. Just own your— yeah, what kind of fear do you got?

It just feels more like anxiety, change, uncertainty. Not sure how things are going to be different, in what way, you know, like who might take Casey's role, how that's going to look, if they're going to change, you know, like, um, and then I always make it into this personal stuff too, you know what I mean? Because I have this like weird ego and sense of myself, and I'm like, am I doing a good enough job, you know?

Yeah.

Like, why don't they ever want to promote me, you know?

Oh, okay.

Am I not as good as I think I am? Do I need to try harder?

What do I need to do?

And then it just becomes this other, like, whole other thing about self, really. But just the common fears, I think, That come with change and, you know, the probability that things may go in another crazy direction because life just be lifin'.

Okay, so, so, so I, I was— I thought this was gonna happen. Who's just afraid that they're next? Of— yeah, okay, great. Okay, 1, 2, 3. Okay, great, good.

What?

Okay, okay, so she— don't judge her! You just judged her! That was so judgy! You're so judgy. Sorry. Um, so that's what I thought all y'all were gonna say. Nice. Johnna's fear is, I just feel uncomfortable, period. Not that I'm gonna get let go, but it's like, what's gonna happen? Okay, cool. What's your fear? Is that, is that 100% the fear? That's part of it. And then also, is the next person who's gonna like take her place, or are they gonna be worse?

Are they gonna be better?

Oh, very good. Okay, how about you?

Um, I'm just—

Yeah, Floyd's gonna be the worst boss you've ever had.

Don't worry, sir, I'm sorry for anything.

There ain't no danger there. I'm hanging on by my teeth anyway. Nah, I'm just scared, uh, I don't know, I'm scared I won't find nobody else to be as close to as I was with her, you know what I mean?

Were you closer to her?

Yeah, really, yeah.

Okay, all right.

Even away from work, you know?

Oh wow. By the way, this is— everyone can be friends with her as much as you want. Like, it's not one of those— don't— you can talk to her about like what happened and she can be like, you know, whatever kind of stories y'all want to get into. I just— the part that drains energy is not interested in that, the emotions. Okay, and then you're the last one, I think.

Uh, fear. Fear that I made the wrong decision. Um, fear that Team members are going to be angry with me and not like me, and fear that my boss is going to come down and be like, "What the crap are you doing? Are you stupid? Are you really that stupid?" You're done.

You're done. Oh, you guys have seen that? You're done. Sorry. Let's honor her emotions. You're done. Just escape the front.

You're done.

All right, so creative, creative energy. All right, John. Yeah, I'm saying it out loud so they can bleep it out on YouTube. 1, 2, 3 of us, 4 of us. Okay, great. So mine, and I feel this way after every, um, so I want to separate it from joy. Joy is like, for me, how I experience in my body is like I can breathe. I'm lighter. Um, creative sexual energy, I like actually feel like I'm sitting at a potter's wheel and like I wasn't able to spin the thing fast enough and now I can spin it and like we can shape things more beautifully or more quickly. Here's kind of the thing that I'm feeling. So, uh, you keep going first. You get to go first this time.

Okay. Yeah, creative, definitely different than joy. Um, definitely joy was my I'm lighter. Uh, creative is You know, I just kind of felt a block in, in the things that I wanted to see happen. Um, and I feel like that block is gone, and now we can, you know, the vision that I have is, is more open to being a possibility.

Right.

Cool. Awesome. Uh, Floyd, did you say creative? No, that's not me.

I didn't. I wasn't reading it fast.

All right, go, go for it.

Yeah. But yeah, I see a lot more. I guess the best way I can say is potential that's opening up. Yeah, yeah. I don't mean to sound you know cruel or mean about it.

What is that? What's he doing? What's he doing? Unless like the hero. Yeah. What else is he doing?

Justifying.

Just yeah.

He's judging.

He's judging how he feels as wrong of like hey, just in case. And is anybody was anybody judging him?

No.

Yeah, so I just want you— I want you, like, this is— I want us to recognize when you are feeling a certain way and then you say, oh, I shouldn't be feeling this way, that that blocks— like, again, emotion is just energy. Emotion, it is not good and it is not bad. It is a temporary state that will be gone in a matter of, I don't know, seconds to minutes. If you let it pass through you. But if you say like, I'm glad that we get to make stuff, but I probably shouldn't be glad, like, it's, it's gonna stay stuck.

Well, I know the feelings are accurate, and I know that, you know, they're right to, to feel them. I'm just saying I don't want people thinking that I'm meaning it in like some way of sabotage, or just, you know what I mean, talking down about somebody. Because I'm talking more about the—

You're still justifying yourself.

Yeah, you're talking to yourself. You're judging yourself. No one's having these thoughts. And honestly, if they were, it's not your job to fix them. It's your job to say, I feel joy. I was— I was in a, um, I love it. I'm telling you guys, this is so inappropriate. Uh, so I was at a 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership thing with, with this guy. Yeah. Okay. And we're in a group, there's like 13 of us, and I started doing exactly what you just said. They were like, Luke, how you feeling? They're like, well, I feel this way, but I want to make sure everybody's okay with it because I don't want to like Don't mess with anything. And he's just like, Luke, speak from your balls. And I was like, what?

I really thought you were gonna say hard.

I know, I know, I know. And I was like, uh, and then I started doing like I did, and I asked you to kind of do that. You did the same thing again. Yeah. He's like, no, I want you to speak like a caveman. Yeah. And I, I was like, me feel sad. Me feel creative energy now here. Says the pastor of the book. Yeah, not your heart. Not your heart. Heartbeat to the throat. Yeah, and I mean, it wasn't even about creating sexual energy because there There's nothing— it's just like, there's just so— there's so much, I guess, purity. Speak from your ovaries, ladies. Just let those sing. Okay. All right. Who hasn't gone? You went first? Okay. And then you went and— okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, I look at—

I feel like creative energy is like an opportunity, especially for us to maybe move to lessons and activity being more collaborative instead of just one person.

Actually creating stuff. Cool. Anger. Um, uh, yes, I feel anger, um, in my throat and kind of down the middle part of my chest. Uh, and the anger is like, um, I'm angry about the potential, like how long this took to happen. And actually it's turning into blame. I can feel it hardening into blame. Like, it's other people's fault. I'm mad at everybody else. That my company has been held back because we haven't had the processes or people in place for us to thrive. So, and notice, by the way, I said this is coming from a place of blame, and I didn't judge that. So when you guys are getting coached, first question is what?

What's going on?

Whenever you're— whenever anything's happening, what's the first question? Where are you?

Are you above the line or below the line?

What's the second question? So in this case, I'm below the line. My anger comes from a below-the-line place. I feel closed. I feel defensive. I feel committed to being right. That, I don't know, Loretta Coker, you guys, God, the world is just— somebody else is wrong.

Can I accept where I'm at?

Can I accept where I'm at? And that's what you weren't doing just now. You were like, ah, I feel bad, but I'm not supposed to feel bad. But y'all are cool and I feel bad, right? Okay, so I am— the anger comes from a place that's below the line, so it's not clean anger, or like, because it's driven by blame and closeness. There can be above-the-line anger. This is not above-the-line anger. But I'm just, I'm just okay with that. Yeah, it's below the line and will stay below the line until it shifts.

Okay, cool.

Who else is angry? The red is angry. I don't believe you for a second. You lie! Sorry. 1, 2. 3. Okay, great. All right, now you get to go first.

Um, I feel anger for her because, um, I don't feel like she was doing her best, and I don't feel like she, um, really cared about this job enough to change. I also feel anger, um, that it wasn't brought up sooner, that things weren't coming to light sooner.

Anything else you're angry about?

Anyone, anyone else you're angry at?

Yeah, yeah.

Are you angry at whoever this—

No.

Okay, cool. You got it. We've got another vote for anger. All right, well, I thought we're gonna have a winner here. I guess we just had a loser. No one wants to feel it. All right, no anger here.

Um, I'm, I'm mad at her because Loretta tells us that if, if somebody— if she lets somebody go, it's not something that, that's a surprise. It's not just something she's gonna come and say, hey, you're gone.

Like, this should take a while.

Yeah, she know She knew what was coming, and she didn't change it.

Okay. Kind of similar to Louis.

Yeah, she she knew it was coming. I mean, it wasn't like it was a surprise. So I'm kind of angry at her because she didn't didn't change anything. Okay, great.

Yeah, go for it. Kind of angry. Angry with one two three four five. You might have got six acres in here. Oh my goodness! Here we go.

Who's the winner? I'm kind of angry with myself that I didn't trust the process of the company enough to come forward a little earlier with my opinion or observation.

Ah, okay.

So I think that's the biggest thing that bothers me about it.

Okay. And where, uh, what's that sound like? Sounds similar.

Blame.

Blame. There we go. Yeah, yeah, you're, you're being a villain to yourself, which is a low, low place to be, which thankfully you found your go-nads and you spoke from them and didn't apologize for that. Good job. Your turn.

Um, I don't know like what my story is with it, but I feel angry.

Um, I want to stop you right there.

You don't actually have to have a story.

You can just, you can just feel like regular old anger and you can say, ahh! Kind of like both.

Yeah. So, um, I feel angry because, um, there's all kinds of little things that happened and I tried to like—

I don't know.

I wish there would have been a— just a different way. You know what I mean? And like, and we talked early about like, there were just several things like, I felt like anytime I was trying to be creative or like give input, I was, you know, And shut down really quickly. And, uh, I was just— I just feel frustrated and angry that I, for some reason, was just like, well, okay, like, I'll just leave it here.

Mm-hmm.

You know what I mean? Like, and not, uh, process that anymore myself, I guess, or try to like change it somehow or whatever. Like, I get angry with myself because I have this tendency to be like, oh wow, that's messed up, like, that's BS, but, uh, oh no, no room for change.

Okay, I'm just gonna like quietly, you know, sit with my head down back here, you know.

And I hate that about myself, and it makes me feel angry and frustrated.

Um, is that what your clearing conversation is about?

Really? Yeah.

Good job. Awesome. You trying hard? Did you already go?

I have not. Um, yeah, anger for me, definitely just feel it in the chest, like something is sitting on my chest. And just, if I were on my bike, I would scream the whole time.

Okay.

Uh, and it's, it's more directed to myself, obviously.

Surprise.

Yeah, no surprise there. Um, just anger that, um, I just— I let it go on, even though I had a gut feeling and I didn't trust myself. So I'm angry that I didn't trust myself.

All right, so, um, this is not a now no one can talk about this. Um, the goal of this is so that we like hopefully saved a whole bunch of that kind of shit so we can like go be creative and all that stuff. Um, I may follow back up with you you guys at some point, you're like, did that even work? Like, for example, I made a video yesterday about how I joke about how I just want a bunch of Lamborghinis so I can get super rich. And, uh, and I— because— and I realized the reason I do that, some of it's to be funny, but some of it is because I like want to— like, I think that I'm controlling how you guys will think about me by being like, well, if I just say I want a bunch of Lamborghinis, then they can't think I'm a greedy jerk because I can just tell them.

Aww.

Sure enough, when you try to control someone else's perception of you, that doesn't work, right?

Yeah.

Because everyone comes in with their own baggage. And so when you say— when you say, Make America Great Again, like, it's the same— you say those 4 words, and how you hear that, and how you— like, each of you responds completely differently to 4 words because of your entire background and worldview. And so me being like, hey, isn't this so crazy that I'm just originally You're just a jerk. Surprise, surprise, you respond differently. So I have a hypothesis that this is gonna make it a little easier for you to like go about your days. Um, but I may follow back up with you guys and be like, how's it going? Like, yeah, sphincter tone still max, bro. A lot of drama left and right. Matter of fact, if y'all would have just not done that, then maybe I would have like— we wouldn't be still talking so much smack. But hopefully the opposite happens. So we'll see. Any other questions or comments?

Great.

I want you guys— I'm going to do something, and I would like for you guys to join me. I want to thank Loretta, your boss, for doing a really, really hard thing. Thank you, Loretta. Pretty much so.

You're the best, and we mean that. We mean it for real.

She doesn't think that. We're not trying to convince her. She can have whatever opinions of herself she wants.

We know she is. Yeah, I know she is.

Yeah, well, she can just disagree with you guys. That's fine. Um, that's her opinion. She's allowed to have her opinion. You're allowed to have yours. Yes. So what surprised me most about this meeting was just how wrong I was. Like, I guessed people would be afraid, that they were going to be next. I guessed people were going to be sad that this person was gone. I did not expect that anger would be the most present emotion in the room. People being angry at themselves, angry at the company. My own anger was pretty present. I felt it in a lot of different ways. The second thing that surprised me was how much people judged themselves for feeling what they felt. Like, I feel joy, but I shouldn't. I feel relief, but I don't want people to think I'm heartless. I feel anger, but I wish it wasn't there. I don't want to sound bad. And that, of course, the judgment of the emotion keeps it stuck. Emotions are things that people experience, and they're not good or bad. It's just energy moving. And so my hope, despite this being super woo and taking up 35 minutes of people's time, is that that energy has been Released, and my team can focus on serving our patients. I will follow up in about a week and see if that actually happened and what kind of feedback I got from the team. Right now it's just a hypothesis, so we'll see. And remember, pretending that emotions aren't in the room doesn't mean that they've left. What do you think? Was this like the weirdest thing ever? Have you been at a company where they did something like this? Does this look like a complete waste of time and you're glad you weren't a part of something like this? And also, Why are you all the way at the end of this video if you thought it was terrible? That's honestly probably my biggest question. Have a great day and thanks for watching.