Effect of Stem Cells on Chronic Pain, MS, Lupus, Arthritis, and More

Ben Greenfield and Joy Kong discuss IV stem cell therapy for chronic pain, arthritis, MS, and lupus. Kong cites animal studies showing roughly 30% lifespan extension and describes treating a 69-year-old patient with an IV infusion plus 1 cc injected per knee, which led her to leave psychiatry and practice stem cell medicine in the San Fernando Valley.
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So you've been using stem cells regularly for eight years?
Eight.
Okay.
Yeah. So I did it based on, I guess faith in science, because I've seen the research of what happens when animals were given regular IV stem cells. Basically they have shown in multiple studies that lifespan of animals are extended by 30%. And not just lifespan is the health span. These animals are, they have shinier fur, their spine is straighter, they're running around.
You know, this is with like blood infusion of stem cells.
Exactly. But put in the animal's tail vein, which is like an IV infusion with animals.
And I don't have a tail by the way, so you have to find.
Somewhere else that's your tail today.
Yeah, my arm, tail.
And also the animals are having better cognition, they can run around the maze better. And then this is a more definitive evidence of the anti aging benefits. They actually sacrificed some of the animals they looked at. So their muscles, they dissected their brain.
In both cases, the amount of growth factors secreted by the cells.
The neurotransmitter level that they're able to produce incinescent markers or toxic waste, everything was back to the younger state. So that was a level that they know is going to change over time. Right. It should have either increase or decrease depending on the marker. But everything was back to the level when the animals were younger. So that's definitive evidence that physiologically these animals were reverted to the younger state.
Wow. So you find all this out. When did you hang up the hat on psychiatry and just decide you're gonna go full on in the stem cell?
Once I started doing stem cells, it was just so much fun. My first patient was actually a 69 year old gentleman who had bilateral, I guess a lot of knee problems. And he was told in no uncertain terms that he needed bilateral knee replacement by orthopedic surgeons. So he came to me. He didn't really want the operation. He's very active. As a owner of a probiotic company who goes to a lot of trade shows, he's very active. So I gave him an IV infusion and I injected 1cc into each knee. And the fun part was the next day he told me, oh, you know, I slept through the night. I haven't slept through the night for decades because he had a rotator cuff injury that he never told me about. Every night when he would turn, he would wake up from the sharp pain. So. So that is a joint that bothered him for decades. And I fixed unintentionally so. And then of course his knees did great because he was walking about four miles every day. This is eight years ago.
Wow.
And he barely feels that he has knees. He said, you know, this is just amazing. And he still goes to more trade shows than I know. So he's 77 years old now. Absolutely amazing. So that hooked me, because imagine I.
Was taking zero for you. This guy.
Imagine I was a psychiatrist, right. We were told not even touch patients, because that's not, you know, is not proper. And for me to put an IV into somebody's body and then inject into the knee, and then the cells kind of did its own thing. And then I was able to fix things that his orthopedic surgeons could not. And I was not trained in orthopedic surgery. And then I have all kinds of other patients, chronic pain patients. A lady with lupus. I got her after the treatment, his lupus markers basically shows that she has no lupus.
So.
And I'm not a rheumatologist, and I was treating people like Ms. Right. I'm not a neurologist, but I can give the person IV infusion and the person goes, ms, remission, going back to work. So all kinds of examples.
So many applications here.
I. It's empowering because it makes medicine really fun again. So that's what I want to show doctors, that this can be fun again. It's not depressing anymore.
Yeah. But we're in la, where we're a little bit. What's the name of this town? It's above Malibu.
Yeah. This is a. This is in San Fernando Valley.
San Fernando Valley. Okay. So a lot of people go overseas. They'll, like, go to Cabo or Tijuana or Dubai or wherever to do stem cells. But you do them here.
Yeah.
And what a lot of people will say is, well, you can only get, like, the good stuff out of the country. You can only get expanded stem cells with a higher stem cell count. If you're outside the U.S. why is it that you would set up shop here and not do something like expanding stem cells?
Only if those statements are actually true.
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