Inside the FUTURISTIC Detox "Sauna" That Uses Ozone, PEMF, Microcurrents & MORE

You've got all of this technology stacking each other, whether one potentiate the other. You need electricity, you need blood flow, you need nutrient absorption, you need neurotransmitters to fire, to give signals in your nervous system. There's something I want to come back to that's very, very interesting about the carbonic acid.

So in my garage, in my new property in Idaho, I've got this weird device. It looks like this space AG transport pod. Your head sticks out of it and it's almost like a sauna that you sit inside of with your head sticking out. But there's way more going on than that. There's like ozone and different frequencies and pemf. And every time somebody comes over to the house and checks it out, I'm like, that is. That's the most probably powerful detoxification tool that is in my arsenal. But in order for me to explain it properly, I'd probably have to have a really long conversation. And I decided to get the expert behind this weird device called the Hocket. Hopefully I'm even pronouncing that correctly on the show to talk about what this thing is. That's how you say it.

Hockett Hocket. It's perfect. Absolutely.

Hockey. Obviously, Andre, a lot that we could talk about when it comes to this, but before we jump in, are you like, like the inventor of this? Are you more of a scientist who understands how it works or where do you fit into the whole Hocket scenario?

I'm the founder of the company, I'm the inventor of the therapy and hockey, while of the technology. And the technology is owned by myself.

Did you just like see pictures of people sitting in those rinky dink little saunas with their heads sticking out and thought, oh gosh, I could do better than that? Or how did you even come up with the idea for this?

And I actually, when it was, you know, at the time when we.

When, when. Well, when I started at it, there was like dial up Internet. That was around about the 2000s, you know, when I started to think about what to do. And yeah, we were busy at, with hydrotherapy at the time.

So obviously you aren't just like an engineer who invents stuff. You were involved in some level at some kind of like a health clinic or something like that.

Yeah. So basically what I've been, been doing, don't think that I'm a heavy health scientist or whatever. I'm. When I was a boy at school, I was just asking a lot of questions and how it Happened was I was involved in hydrotherapy. It was basically a product that you converted your bath into a spa. And I really started to see how people's lives got trans, you know, transformed.

Just with something as simple as hydrotherapy.

By the way, what is hydrotherapy?

Well, hydrotherapy is basically when you use water as an. As a medium to massage the body, but you can also use it to induce cytothermia. You can, you know, it's like a spa bath in this case. So what we were doing basically is to take hot water in there, and you can use aromatherapy oils.

To give you different kinds of effects, you know, and provoke different kinds of physiological responses from the body with different kinds of oils. And the main effect here was to reduce stress and to enhance blood circulation.

So you were doing that with like, patients or running a clinic or how were you using hydrotherapy?

I was literally selling these devices.

You were selling them to, like, people, businesses, etc.

I would literally go. So I wasn't at this stage, I was in Bible school. So in a week I go to Bible school. In weekends I go to a flea market. I have had this whole thing set up. And then I, you know, I had a bath that was transparent and I had like a fog swimming in this bath to attract the people's children. And they would look at this them and they'd be mesmerized with the bubbles because it's, you know, it's really mesmerizing.

So you're like learning how to baptize people via the Bible at school and then baptizing them in a different way?

Absolutely. On the weekends. Yeah. So basically I got it at the point, you know, when I, when I saw that. So then I, you know, I will get people and I will see what, you know, kind of here, what is the things that they are dealing with. And then during the week, I'll go and put the stuff in their bath and I'll, you know, kind of run through their stuff and tell them how it work. And then later I'll phone them up and say, hey, how did things go? And, you know, they'll go like, Andre, you cannot believe. You know, I was dealing with this, this, this, this issue. I feel amazing. And kind of through that I was going like, wow, that is absolutely fantastic to hear. Because the kind of results that people got from it was so profound that at that stage then I kind of decided that this is where I'm going to devote my life's work. You know, I want to help people and I want to Give them the tools to normal people to help them to, you know, become better and to actually help have this tool to, you know, to sort out some issues and to live a better life. Optimal life. Athletes we were doing, I've gone to old age homes and that was the most amazing thing where I learned a lot of things to work with these people. So I would go there and I will do demonstrations. And then, you know, they were dealing with a lot of issues. Mobility and.

Andre, when you're, when you're talking about doing demonstrations, are you talking about the hydrotherapy still or had you created something different?

No, I'm talking now about hydrotherapy. So I would do the same thing as what I did in the, you know, in the markets. I would basically have this transparent bath. I will go out there and show them how it work. I will kind of show them that how basically just work on a default protocol where you can sit with hot water. You put some different essential oils in there. How the mass. Either heat will kind of, you know, enhance and optimize their hormones and neurotransmitters, the enzymes in their body.

And then, you know, basically with e, what it does is it will dilate your blood vessels and then it starts to flow. So all of a sudden when they now starts to, you know, when they now start to spend time in the bath and the heat and they start thinking about it and they, you know, and they had this massage coming and the blood circulation is enhanced. A lot of the issues and, you know, mobility issues, you know, just bang, fog. A lot of stuff was dealt with pain. A lot of people came back and said, you know, I've never slept so well in my life.

Yeah. And. And by the way, hot, hot, cold, hot, cold, contrast, you know, hyperthermia and then some type of hypothermic setting that's been used for a long time, you know, as, you know, for athletic injuries and now increasingly for things like blood sugar and production of heat shock proteins and vasoconstrictive vasodilation. It sounds to me like at the time you were kind of harnessing a lot of the benefits of the hyperthermic component. Exactly. It sounds like with things like essential oils, combining that with some of the phenolic compounds we might find in nature to get a 1, 2 combo of like aromatherapy and hydrotherapy. Kind of.

Exactly. So what we, you know, kind of what we wanted to do is a lot of people were, you know, you want to induce artificial fever. So a lot of people at the time, you know, well, we all do it. If you have a fever, trying people trying to, you know, kind of inhibit your fever, so you kind of train your body against itself, where fever is your natural mechanism that's placed in your body, you know, to. To kind of deal with immune issues, with viruses, pathogens, or detoxification. If you feel bad, you know, fever is there to ramp up all the different systems in the body. Your blood circulation, your nutrition delivery, your oxygen delivery, your hormones, neurotransmitters, everything work at optimal level when you get around about 100 to 104 degrees Fahrenheit.

Yeah. I'm glad you specified, by the way, because for anybody listening in. Safety factor. Yes. Sometimes a fever needs to run its course to do what it needs to do to clean up your body. But if you're pushing like 104 plus, get to a hospital, because that. That can get pretty bad for the brain, particularly. One of the reasons I know this, Andre, is I did about two weeks at a clinic out in the Alps called the Swiss Mountain Clinic. All sorts of different IVs and phototherapies and special diets. They work with a lot of people with things like cancer, Lyme mold, mycotoxin, et cetera. But they do hyperthermia there specifically for cancer. And I tried it. This was during the heat wave in Italy and Switzerland, like four years ago. So it was already probably about 108 degrees outside. They had me riding a bike for a half hour in a hot room before getting into the hyperthermia unit. A little bit similar to the hockey. Your head's sticking out, but everything else was a little different. You have, like, a rectal probe to monitor body temperature. There's a nurse there dousing your head with icy cold water throughout so that as your body temperature rises, your. Your brain doesn't overheat. It was horribly uncomfortable. I mean, for example, we'll. We'll explain what the hockey is later on, but I'm in the hockey, like, 30 minutes. I think it maxes out at 45 minutes. I was in that hyperthermia unit, which was actually hotter than the hockey, for, like, four hours. Just about passed out in the thing. And apparently they do this with cancer patients on a regular basis because of the cytotoxic effects of heat on cancer cells. But long story short is, yes, you can induce a fever or allow a fever to run its course, but once it gives above 104, you should probably start to seek out some medical assistance pretty quickly.

Exactly. And the reason why it is, if you go over 104. Most of enzymes start to deform. You know, it loses its ability to catalyze. So deform, you damage it. And then all processes. I mean, the same goes for hormones and neurotransmitters. It deform and it get damaged permanently.

Yeah. And it's hard to put an egg back together after you've scrambled egg.

Exactly. You can't put that guy back together once it's done.

So. Yeah, that's actually one of the main things. I have an interesting story to tell you about.

Well, let me first tell you what the. What they're trying to. What's the difference then? If you're talking about what you have done now, where they do maybe cancer treatments and where you have hocked, where you basically just an immune modulation, etc. Etc. So what they then are trying to do is they're actually trying to treat an issue.

Through trying to inhibit the tumor growth. They're trying to break down the tumor, which happened with secretion of tumor necrosis factors, etc. Etc. But the main thing difference between that kind of hypothermia and hockey is Hockitt is not there to treat anything is basically just to get the body all the responses in one time to, you know, to just work together and to. For half an hour you can do more, but it becomes a little bit of a stretch. And just to kickstart your immune system, get everything to work together in harmony in one at one specific time so that your immune responses that come from that can work naturally to, you know, create wellness, to create all kinds of physiological responses.

Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves here though, because I want to hear how you went from high. From high, what's it called, Hydrotherapy. To inventing the hawket. So. So how'd this thing come to be?

All right, so basically then what happened is I came to learn about ozone and being in South Africa at that stage, which is in. I'm talking about 2000, 2002. 2000, I started. It started to get onto my radar. And then 2002, I really started to research ozone.

And.

And like I said, we were using data Internet. It took me like five minutes just to, you know, change from one site to another.

Yeah. And then if somebody. If somebody picks up the phone in the same house, then you gotta start over.

Yes. So it took hours and hours to research. And at that stage it went a lot of stuff on the Internet. And now me being like a normal enthusiast, health enthusiast.