162. European Adventures, There’s More To Life Than Crypto

It's not to denigrate the people and the problems that we have today, but we have a lot of free time and we look for problems. And I see people like there's constant hate on social media because it's more engaging around things are bad, it's all going to zero. But really, if you turn all that off, you go for a walk and you look at everyday life, it's pretty damn good. And you don't need to worry about some problem that's going on in a faraway country that you're not involved with. You're not from there, you don't have any, it's not your cause or whatever. It's like just live in your lane. Like you know, know look after your own kind of area. Your backyard, your family, your community. Live a much happier life.

Welcome back to another episode of the Ben and Bergs Podcast. I'm Ben, your favorite high school dropout and founder of collective shift, alongside Ms. Bergs, your favorite MBA and COO of collective shift. Join us as we bring you world class crypto research and strategies to help you dominate this crypto bull market as well as behind the scenes view of us scanning a fully remote subscription research business in Australia. And you like the podcast, we'd love for you to share it with a friend. Leave a subscribe. Follow us on your favorite podcasting app as we come to you each and every week, apart from the last three weeks. So sorry team. I have been off gallivanting in Europe and we're back. I miss birds, baby. I miss Bergs a little bit, you.

Know, not Mate, you're messaging me every single day. You're sending me updates and photos, mate.

That'S just a, just, you know, you miss me.

I was like, berg, just do it. Just do a solo episode, mate. And he's like, nah man, I can't do without you. You know, I need, I need you by my side to do a podcast.

Like, okay, the true story is I was busy running the company and undoing all the destruction Ben had done over the last six months.

You know when you get like a shoelace, it's just super knotted and you're like sitting there trying to like undo the knot. Like that's what, that's what you're doing. The last month I got so much.

Tension in my back just from the few minutes we've been speaking already, mate, it's just coming back.

Mate is mama. I'm gonna create my own podcast with a Ben show soon.

Yeah, no one's gonna watch it.

My Mum will listen, mate. My mum will listen.

Zero views.

But we thought we'd.

Tell us about your holiday, mate. You've had a couple of weeks off. You've been a very busy and stressed out man and you're like, I'm gonna bug out. I'm gonna go to Europe and I'm gonna have a great time with my mates. How did it go, mate?

Was epic, man. I was. I was. I was due for a break, man. At the end of late last month, I was cook day. Like, I needed a. I needed a spell, needed a break and it was just good to get away and just forget about life for a second and, you know, it was really eye opening. I actually made a tweet about it that I think you. You read Bergs and it's a banger, mate.

Yeah, yeah, I'll read it out, man. I saw this, I was like, hell, yeah. So you said taking a few days off. This past two weeks has reminded me of a few things. There's more to life than crypto. We live in a bubble in Australia no one cares about you. Enjoy life with friends and family. Stop stressing over the little shit. Travel more. That is all. Amazing tweet, mate.

It's just like. I don't know how to describe it, but it's like when I travel and it's probably the same for you and maybe a lot of other listeners, like when you travel. It's just like. It's the only time in my life where I remember memories, insights, am stimulated by the world. You learn new things. You're like, wow, this world is a massive place. And we get so caught up in all the menial bullshit that when you just. You're in Greece and you're in Mykonos and you're on the beach having a few cocktails, having an amazing time with your friends, you're like. Like, this is what life's about. You know what I mean?

Isn't it amazing that we place importance on the things that aren't important just because we do them often and there's inertia, things like work and achievement and whatever else there is when you take that away, who are you really? You know what is important to you? And it is a struggle every day to remember those things, those insights that you have when you're free and you don't have tension, you're in holiday mode. The things that are important to your life and carry them into your everyday life. When you're back at work and have everything else around you, it's so True.

It's just like, because we have nothing else to think about or worry about. That's what we. What we worry about. And this thing that I. The first, the first part of that tweet was around, like, there's more to life than crypto. Like, I. I speak to so many people that are so caught up in the short term and what's happening today. Why is Bitcoin gone down 5%? Who gives a flying foor why it's down 5%? Like, there's so many different reasons why, you know, it doesn't matter. Like, we've got to sit back and think about the long term. And I think, you know what, what I love about traveling is it just. It just. I don't know, it's. You just realize how big the world is. Like, it's kind of scary. Like, I've done very, very little traveling of the world. Like, I think I've done like 5 or 10%. I've traveled of the world. And that is so mind boggling when you think about how big the world is, how much is going on, and how little you are in context to the world. Like, no one gives a flying about you. Like, like, and I mean that in a good way. Like, it doesn't matter.

We're so pumped up and we've got these giant egos and we think we're so important in our little bubbles, but you do not matter at all.

No.

Like, literally no one cares about you. People on the other side of the world don't care about you. You'll be dead soon anyway. No one will remember you in 50 or 100 years. Why do we think we're so important?

I know, like, why, why do we think that.

You know that email that that guy sent today and he was a little bit like, blunt in the way he sent it. He's gonna ruin the day. Like, who gives a. Like. Exactly.

Right. That was what I was thinking when you were talking earlier. Like, people think that Dale in accounts that sent you an angry email is occupying your brain. That person and that relationship and that interaction does not matter at all.

Yeah.

Yet. Yet we let it consume us.

And I also think like, that that comment I made around, like that we live in a bubble in Australia.

What I meant by that is I feel as though we are so.

Even in crypto, we think the world of revolves around Australia. Like, you go to an event or like an industry event and you're doing this talk and it's all amazing and, you know, it's a big ego thing. And there's like 30 people in the room. No one gives a. I tell you what, no one even knows where Australia is in America. Like it just matters so little about like the things that we're doing. Like that we put so much importance on our self and our self worth and our ego and like all this sort of stuff and it's just all bullshit. Like it's just like it doesn't matter. I don't know, I don't know how to describe it. Like you go to London, right? I went to London. I had a meeting with one of our partners in London, in Mayfair. This was the most uncomfortably rich like city or town, suburb, whatever you call it that I've ever been a part of. We went into this private.

Lounge, bar, cafe. I don't even know what it was. Right. Went in, they ID me. I had to tape over my, my cameras on my phone. Weren't allowed to use your phone in there. No video calls. Was very prestigious. Elon Musk was there like the week before with his 15 Teslas out the front. He had a meeting there. Costed a heap of money to be a member of this club apparently. And that was the most.

Eye opening experience for me because this was super old money, like money that had been hand around for generations and generations. And I was walking around that town going to cafes and they literally look me up and down and squirm at me because I wasn't wearing the you know, $20,000 jacket and didn't have the Rolex and like, like basically who the are you? Like what's your last name? Who are you? Why? What are you doing here? And it actually made me feel uncomfortable being there and that was like just eye opening to see like the amount of money that's in the world, the status of people. Everyone's playing their status games and you know, we live in, we just live in this little world down here and.

It'S like, it's wild. Even at EO over here, the WH chan is like we're not that rich compared to the guys over east then the guys over east aren't rich compared to like American people. American people aren't that rich compared to like crazy rich Asians. Crazy rich Asians aren't that rich compared to oil people that have like lots of oil money, right? Yeah, like it's, it's crazy and there's so many different levels and you put out a tweet about how much a coffee cost in that place. Ben.

Oh mate, it was nuts. I can't remember how much it was, but it was just. It was Sydney. I think it was like 20 or 15 Aussie or something. Like, like 10 pounds, which is like nearly costed 20. 20 Aussie dollars. And it was average coffee. Like, that's one thing about traveling. No one makes coffee like, you know, Australia or Melbourne. Like, it's just the best coffee back home. Everyone I went in Europe was just bang, average coffee. Bit of a coffee snub now, but man, it was just good, like. So I did two weeks in Greece. Greece was unbelievable. It was just two weeks of partying. Honestly, like, it was just the wildest, loosest trip. We did Mykonos, Santorini, Eos Paros and.

One other. Can't remember the other one. And it's such a gorgeous place. Like just a beautiful part of the world. Very expensive. A lot of beaches, a lot of beach clubs. A lot of just.

Wealthy Europeans traveling there to. To holiday boats. Lots.

Bro, tell me about the food. How about the food?

Oh, the euros, mate.

The hero.

Oh, it was just like nothing better than every day waking up hungover and having a euros. This chicken, lamb, chips. The bread. The pita bread, mate. The tzatziki. Oh, the taziki, man. Like, but the bread was so soft and like, it didn't make you feel carby or like bloated. It was just like. Oh, I just can't even describe it, man. Like, the euros was sensei, we're having like two or three a day. It was just like, let's go epic.

That's my favorite food. When I go to Melbourne, it's like, I just want Greek food, dude.

It's just like unbelievable.

And yeah, it was just like. Greece was beautiful. London's. London's very. I feel like Melbourne's like a younger brother to London. Like, London's massive. Like, you don't really realize how like London has four airports. That's insane, right? And they're building a fifth. Like, it just the. The scale of it is just ginormous and make the accommodation and like. So my mate Harry has a place there in Shoreditch which is like the pran of London, right? Like a pretty nice place of London. He's paying somewhere around three and a half thousand pounds a month. So six, seven thousand Aussie dollars a month. Two bedroom. And this place is average. Average at best. Like, it is pretty small, tiny balcony. It's got like mold in some of the cupboards. Like it's pretty average. 7000 Aussie dollars a month, mate, for this place.

They're just the Dankness in London, where it's just like. Everywhere's like dank, small. It's. Yeah.

And it's gloomy there, man. Like, it's just overcast. It's kind of just like rainy, like. It's just.

That's why everyone drinks, mate. That's why there's pubs everywhere.

Hey, I went to a few of the pubs even. Yeah, but it's just like. I don't know, man. I mean, I like it. I couldn't live there, though. I couldn't live there.

Yeah. How do you find being around all the kind of, you know, history and old stuff and, like, especially Greece, to be honest.

Germany, when I went to. I went to one of the concentration camps that was. That was full on, like, that was. That was, you know, that. That sort of hit you in the face. That did. So I went to sh.

After you read that book as well. Happiest man on earth.

Yeah. Yeah. And then I. I did a guided tour. It was called. I can't remember, the Schwarzenegf or something. It was one of the main.

Production concentration camps where they put the prisoners in to go and create bricks and wooden construction items. And. Yeah, they use this word like death by labor or something like that, where they're basically. They push these guys to the limits until they basically, you know, topple over. And they had the. The existing housing in there where they lived and like 500 dudes in just this tiny thing sleeping on top of each other, shitting on top of each other, pissing on top of each other. It's cold, no clothes. They get a couple of bits of bread a day, a little bit of soup, and they just work these guys to the core. And then they showed us where they. They had the. The death. I don't know what they called it, the death area where they gassed them or killed them. And then they had the exit. They had the. The existing.

Where they burnt the. The. The. The people. They had the existing ovens. And now it's still there. I was like, hell, man. Like. And this was only like, what, 70 years ago, like 80 years ago.

It's just still people alive that were in that and survived it.

And that just puts into perspective, man, it's like.

Like one generation ago, people are out here getting, like, just killed because of their beliefs. And we're out here, you know, worried about.

You know, we're not getting called the right pronoun. I'm like.

Okay, so this. I think about this a lot. Where if you think just in one generation, so My dad is passed away now, but he's born in 1931. So imagine being born in 1931, what your life is like and then going through a war. He came to Australia. But even then, if you just look at the general advancement in the last hundred years where you've got things like, you know, lots of different surgical techniques, antibiotics, vaccines, cars, distribution, planes, Internet sophisticated like housing, like every. You solve the food problem, you have to worry about food. You can get any type of food from anywhere in the world at your local shops. So we've gone and we've solved all the difficult problems that humans need, like food, shelter, you know, working money. We fit, we found it figured out money from gold and everything like that. And then now we're at a point where the pro. We do have big societal problems, but the problems are so small that we're focusing on smaller and smaller things, like, you know, pronouns. It is important to some people, but in the grand scheme of humans over time, compared to like food, shelter, war, everything else, it's really not that important. Like it starts to go down the curve.

Yeah. And, and that, that's like. And again, I've got nothing against that. And, and my perspective on all that stuff is that it doesn't like you do you. I don't like, you know, whatever you want to do, go for it. Like I, I really don't care.

But I think some people.

Just. There's a lot of short term thinking and I get caught in this trap as well. It's just like, you know, we're so worried and caught up. The world's bad and like all this stuff's going on and like, you know, that we're all doomed. It's like, well no, we're kind of not.

Like the world is the best it has ever been.

Yeah.

Like literally it is the best. Like the opportunities I have now, 100 years ago I would not have. Right. I would be even just because I'm a little bit brown. Right. I would be a low class person. I would not have the opportunities I have now. My parents weren't high status, you know, and now a day is really better than even kings did. Like even if you just say kings existed a hundred years ago, we live way better than they did in just like one person's lifespan. And it's like it's not to denigrate the people and the problems that we have today, but we have a lot of free time and we look for problems. And I see people like there's constant hate on social media because it's more engaging around things are bad, it's all going to zero. But really, if you turn all that off, you go for a walk and you look at everyday life, it's pretty damn good. And you don't need to worry about some problem that's going on in a far away country that you're not involved with. You're not from there, you don't have any. It's not your cause or whatever. It's like just live in your lane, like, you know, look after your own kind of area, your backyard, your family, your community. Live a much happier life.

And one of the biggest things that gives me that perspective is travel. And I love it all the time. Like, you know, even so I got. Where am I at the moment? I'm in South Korea, right? So I flew from London to South Korea and just like learning about new cultures and how people do life and just experiencing new things. Even like I ticked off one of my bucket list items in Germany. I went to an international football game and watched England and Denmark and it was unbelievable. Like just everyone so passionate, so excited. Everyone's got their own songs. 70, 000 people on stadium. On one side you got all the Denmark people in red with their chants and then on the other side all the English fans will their flags and it's just like the most captivating like thing. Sport brings the best and worst out of people and it's just the most unbelievable experience. And like that's what, that's what I realized that I want to do more of. Like, that's why, like why do we do the business? Why do we work our guts out to do work and build a business and stress all the time when if you don't enjoy that or you can't enjoy the fruits of your labor, like what's the point? And this was that third part of the tweet that I spoke about around like, no one cares about you. And this is like an interesting one because it's kind of like I didn't have an existential crisis, but it was like existential thinking around, like what's the. At the end of the day, right, there's only one person that you can look after and the only one person that you feel feelings about and that's yourself, right? You go to your own bed every night on your own and no one else is there, right? So at the end of the day, life is about trying to. In my perspective, it's about how can you increase your fulfillment and happiness and overall joy of the world. For yourself. And I think sometimes I get caught up in the trap of so focused on just the work and business that you've been. There's got to be the other side of that. Like, you're doing this to create an outcome, to deliver something. Right. And if you don't have the delivery of the thing and you're just grinding every day, well, then you sort of get in this pit of like burnout and sadness and fucking depression and you're like. You know what I mean?

Yeah. The thing that is supposed to help you live your life becomes a thing that you become obsessed with and it ruins your life. And it's similar to investing as well, where a lot of people invest to make money. Why are you making money? So you can use it as a tool to enrich your life. But then people get in the mode of becoming frugal, making more money, having bigger and bigger goals, but they never go around the other side and spend that money.

Yeah.

To then live their lives. And just what you said before. So behind me I've got these little jack butcher things that are printed out with little visualizations. And there's just. Up above me, there's just a blank one and it's just black. And it represents that no one is coming to save you.

Yeah.

And I look at that every single day and no one will come and save you but yourself. Like, you are responsible for your life, the way you live it and the direction you're going. If you write down your goals and what's important and work towards them, you'll live a much more fulfilled life. And if you don't get caught in the trap of, you know, additional lines of, you know, desiring and wanting and constantly moving the goalposts and being influenced. But use your directing mind and always look at what you want and what's important to you and don't let the media and everyone else and your friends influencing you. You'll live a much happier life.

That. And that's the hard bit, like not being influenced by other. Other people and. And also just being able to break out. And like, at the time I was taking the. Went to Europe, like, I felt was the worst time ever. So busy, so much stuff going on. Like, it was completely hectic and then took a couple of weeks off and realized that, you know what, nothing really happened at all.

There's never a bad time. So I've got.

How should I put this? A colleague that I. I do some additional kind of, you know, volunteer work with. And they are burnt out and they Don't. They're a leader and they don't want to take leave, and they know they should. And it's a bad example to their staff, but they have that kind of feeling of like, you know, guilt, obligation, little bit of fear. But when you take that leave and you know your business is in capable hands, it comes back to that point about you're not that important. Like, you know, you do have importance in the world, but not all the time. Not 24 7. And you do need to look after yourself. And when you do that, you realize things are okay.

Yeah, yeah. 100%. And that for me, like, it's probably been two or three. Like, I've been on and off, but like, you know, two or three weeks completely out, and everything's been fine. Like, business is fine.

Of course, is. I'm running the business. The business is better than it's ever been, mate. What are you talking about? And it's actually worked really well because I can concentrate on the internals of the business. And you're still doing platinum calls here and there, closing sales. It's been.

It's actually worked really well. And there's no, you know, you know about no meetings. And guess what? Everything's fine.

Yeah, exactly. Like, everything just runs like it's been fine.

Yeah.

Now, mate, I want to dive a little bit deeper. You said something earlier about football matches. Tell me about being a football hooligan, mate.

This is one of my dreams, mate. The English are wild, mate. It was the loosest thing I've ever experienced. So basically, for context, listeners, I've got one of my best mates is English. He lives in Sydney. And he was over at the game and had me. Got me a couple of tickets. Oh, sorry. He had a couple of tickets spare. So I took one of them. So we went together. So we're in. We're in Frankfurt. And it's the day before the game. And he's like, we're going to the Fountain of Hope or something. A fountain of. I don't know what it was right about. We got the Fountain of Hope, right, Day before the game, roll up to this fountain, right? Which is just this big area. Shops around the outside, big concrete area. There's this big fountain in the middle, right? Data point. England. England. I've been playing, right? And the place is pumping, you know, like thousands of English fans singing songs. It's legal to drink on the street. So people are just like, neck and wine bottle.

How good is street drinking, bro?

My. It is loose, right? So everyone's Just packing out these like little 711 stores just, just railing all the alcohol in the stores for 75 cents each. Going down to the, down to the fountain of hope, right? And just everyone is just going off chops, right? By about 10 o', clock, they'd taken over the city. So they're on top of the restaurant chairs, hundreds taking over the city, singing songs like that. You couldn't get through. There's no traffic getting through. It was completely bananas, right? Went to bed, next day, went to the game, and it was just unbelievable. The trains were packed, everyone's singing songs.

Everyone'S drunk from the night before.

Everyone just rolled through, like no one slept. Everyone just blind and mate. It was just, it was unbelievable, right throughout the game. And we sit down for game, first kickoff, right? And we're like, where's our mate? Our mate's gone. Where's he gone? Try to call him. Phones off, right? Maybe, maybe we show up half time. I haven't heard from him full time. Haven't heard from him. No idea where he's gone. Like, what do we do? I haven't heard from in three hours. Oh, maybe, maybe he's back at the hotel. We'll go back to the hotel, get back to hotel, right? If he's in here, amazing. If he's not, I don't know what we're gonna do. But now he'll be in here, open the door, he's not there. Four hours, completely gone, right in the middle of Germany. I'm like, what do we do? We've lost him. Where could he be? Okay, what are the options? Maybe he's gone home with a girl. Maybe he's fallen asleep. He was pretty drunk, right? Maybe he's been arrested. Who knows, right? A couple of hours go by, we haven't heard from this guy in six hours. It's like nine o'. Clock. He's got to fly home to Sydney the next day. And what do we do? And we get a phone call. It's him. Boys. Where are you, mate? Where are you? I've been locked up. What do you mean you've been locked up? They took me. So what happened? So it turns out he got in a biff with a security guard at the game, clocked him knock the security guard out. Three German cops pounce on him. And these German cops made. You don't want to with these guys. These guys are big. Like, not like little Australian cops. Like, these guys are like the Hulk, right? They've got guns, they got batons. Three guys jump on him. Drag him to the lockup, right? They get him in the lockup and they fucking strip him down to his underwear and just kick the out of him, spitting on him, they're hitting him, kicking him, just going, going off chops. They, they take all his money, leave him in there for a few hours, take his phone, come back, give him €10 back and basically threw €10 at him, basically said off, mate, they kicked him out.

So he's like, justice.

He's like an hour or two outside of the city in Frankfurt, middle of nowhere, right, where the stadium is, no phone, no nothing. 10, €10 to his name and no dignity. And then had to wander back into the city and give us a call.

Unbelievable, mate, Unbelievable. So that's it.

Like, I think a lot of people don't realize, like, when you go to other countries and you get drunk and belligerent, it's not like here, right? Even London's pretty lenient. Like, even the cops, you can walk up, you can nick their hats, stuff like that, they won't bash you. But like, man, if you muck around the wrong place, but clocking a security guard's pretty full on.

And if you're English, right, like, they're not going to like that, you know, they're not going to like you.

So, no. Oh, mate, but you got written down over here, mate. Oh, Ryanair. You flew on Ryanair. How was that?

Hey, that was a disaster.

So I'm in Germany, went to Berlin on my own. I'd go to the, Go to the, the old concentration camp. Had to get back to London.

I, I love that about you, man. Where, you know, you're with your mates, you're doing stuff, you're like, no, I want to go do this thing, I want to go see this thing. And you go by yourself and travel. Like, that is an amazing thing. Like, a lot of people are afraid to do that, but it's one of the best things, man.

I appreciate that, man. Yeah, I don't really think about it. I'm like, well, when am I gonna be in Germany again? I really want to go. So, like it. Let's just, let's just go. So, yeah, whenever they spend. Spent a couple of nights there.

And then because it was so last minute, like, because I booked it like the day of, had to get Ryanair back. And mate, that is like, that is a show. It was just like first in, Best Dressed, everyone's like up there trying to scan in and then the plane's there, right? Everyone piles off the plane from the up from the. Where they just came from. As soon as the last person comes off, they just open the doors. Then everyone's just like running to the plane to try and get a seat. And then the. We're standing there and then all my pilot rocks up. He just fucking. He just rolls up with his bag, looks pretty hungover, having a ciggy out of his mouth. Like, he just got out of bed. He's like, where's the plane? Like, I hope that guy's not driving our plane. Moves anyone over and just rolls up and goes in. Goes in to fly the plane. I'm like, oh, it's all over, boys. This is. This is how it ends. And then they fly us to the. To Stanford or somewhere in London. Like one of the shitty airports. That was a disaster too. Just the. The whole place was just a. Just a. Just a wrecking ball. It was, it was just the most. I don't know, it was. It was a cultural experience, mate. We'll mark it out of that.

Have you seen Ryanair's Twitter?

I've seen that tick tock, mate. And I'm like, they just take the piss out of themselves, bro.

But on Twitter, they just roast people. Someone's like, oh, I had the worst experience on Ryanair. And then it's like, yeah, why don't you start your own airline? Yeah, they're just like, roast people, man.

It's so good. How did you go through Heathrow?

Yeah, so, mate, when I arrived in Heathrow show, right, that was just a disaster. So many people, no room, elevators were packed. You can't get a taxi out. Like, I was there for two hours, disaster because the train was down. So I usually got. Oh, I was gonna get the train, but on the way out, mate, oh, flu business on Etihad. And it was, oh, unbelievable, mate. Fast track, check in, fast track security. So didn't even go to the main security line was packed. Fast track, your own security lane. Went in, check in, got my bag, scanned it all, fast track. I was in the lounge, no shit. Within 10 minutes, I reckon, of arriving. It was.

There's actually a little hack that Levels was saying that not many people know about. Well, not a hack, but a little tip where there's companies that offer this service, even if you're not flying business class, you pay them, like, 20, 30 bucks. Someone will meet you at the door and, like, take you through. Like, you get priority access. You can pay for the majority of airports.

Honestly, it's probably like, when you're traveling often, it's probably worth it like, it's.

I go through major airports. That's exhausting. It's annoying. It's the worst. Even, like, London, like, when you get to Heathrow and the planes are, like circling in that corkscrew and then you finally go down and then you go through. Or even when you're going through security, you got to take your shoes off and all this sort of nonsense. It's just ridiculous.

Yeah, yeah, but not. It was. It was good on the way out. It's good. So very, very lucky to. Yeah. Fly business because it was just. It was just so much easier, bro.

Two more places to cover off. We've got Amsterdam and Korea. Tell me about Amsterdam.

Do you even remember it, bro?

Look, Amsterdam.

Look, it's pretty. It's pretty interesting. I had a friend there, so we caught up with. Caught up with her when, after dinner. She sort of showed us around. Everyone's, like, riding on bicycles. It's kind of like, you know, the history is kind of cool. Did the red light district, mate. Sort of just had to take that box. That was. I mean, look, it's not for me. It was pretty fascinating. It. But it was just full of, like, creepy dudes, like, walking up and down the street. And it's just like.

So you're right at home, then.

Felt right at home.

So we're like, oh, it was funny.

Go and tell the story, B.

Tell it, tell it. I'll tell the story. So we're out. We're gonna. I'm with Harry, right? So we're gonna go like, okay, let's. Let's go. Let's go look at one of these shows, right? Well, we gotta take the Tick. The show off, right? So we're in the line of one of these shows, you know, adult shows, right? And there's a guy in front of us, right? We're waiting in line, waiting, but turns around, he goes, do I know you? I said, nah, mate, you don't know me. He said, no, I know you. You're the crypto guy. I said, no, you're not made in the line. I said, not me, mate. I got made in the line, right? I hadn't. I hadn't got made anywhere. And I'm in Amsterdam. And he goes, you're the crypto guy. Said, no, no, no, no, no, that's not me, mate. He said, nah, nah.

International thought leader Ben Simpson.

I'm like, I don't know what crypto is, mate. He's like, well, if it is you, I like your stuff. I'm like, ah, cheers. Mate.

That'S all it took.

One compliment, mate, and you've blown your cover.

I'm like, we're both done, mate. You're in the line. I'm in the line. You know, it is what it is. So that was funny, but I don't know, man. The show was just like. I was kind of uncomfortable. And then we just, like. I don't know, we. We gotta. Got a kebab and went home. So. I mean, Amsterdam was cool. I wouldn't go back in a hurry. Yeah. And then what was the last place? What? I haven't.

Korea. So tell me about. Because all of those European countries, I think they'll feel kind of, I guess, comfortable. There's a lot of English spoken there. Maybe not in Greece. I've never been there. I don't know. But I would imagine Korea is wildly different in terms of culture and amount of English that they speak there.

Yeah.

So even some of the receipts. So, okay, before you go on, Ben's literally, like, in our finance channel, he's put some receipts from Korea and I'm like, yeah, good luck, Ato. It's just like all this Korean writing. I don't even know what the it is.

It's so funny, mate, because obviously with the new bookkeeper, like, it's. We've got to be like, dialed in on these receipts. I never usually keep receipts. I'm like, well, it. Okay, here's the receipts, guys. It's not even in English. It's living in that currency.

But look, yeah, standard me, mate. I just rock up. Haven't even looked. I don't even know where I'm staying. Right. I could just rock up and just sort of figure it out. Get in, get to the airport. No one really speaks English. I'm like, great, awesome. Trying to find a taxi. Number one rule, never get the guys out the front going, taxi, taxi, taxi. Try and find the taxi rake in the taxi rake, mate. This guy no was doing about 150km an hour switching lanes, like, this guy is full throttle. Hauling ass like, God, speeding from the airport to where I was staying. And Google Maps here doesn't actually work, so it only shows you public transport times. It doesn't actually tell you how far things are away for some reason. Super weird. And then the ATMs don't work for. For international cards. And no one really speaks English. So I'm rolling around, mate. Next thing I like, I'm trying to get some money out to pay with cash because some places don't take card. No one really Speaks English. I'm like, well, what have I done here? I'm like, I'm a bit out of my depth here. Like, this is not what I realized. Found, found a place could get a maximum like a hundred dollars worth out, which was, you know, not much, but might end up finding a.

Korean barbecue place. But everything shuts between 2:30 and 5:00'. Clock. So I'm rolling into these places. They're like, no, no, no, no. I'm like, you know, food for food. Like, no, no, no, break, break, break. I'm like, oh, okay, sorry. So no one works between 2:30 and five. I'm like, okay, where am I supposed to eat food anyway? I found a place, mate. This Korean barbecue here. Oh, the steak, mate, is just like next level. They come and cook it for you too, like, oh, incredible. But I've got the conference. Conference today, I'm speaking tomorrow.

And yeah, mate, we got. So my videographer, Daniel, so he's a mate of mine, he's flown in from Vietnam for like, I've just paid for his flights and accommodation, but he's not charging for his time. He just wants to get some work experience.

Yeah.

So we're doing like a YouTube video, like behind the scenes for this week, which should be fun.

That's awesome.

So it should be some good content.

Yeah, that's really good, man. And mate, whenever you travel, there's always a disaster, mate. I want to hear if you've had. You just rocked up and there's like an absolute clanger, or has it gone relatively smoothly this time? Have you learned your lessons, mate? Or have you just rocked up going, where am I? This doesn't work. I've lost this. My luggage hasn't rocked up. ATM ate my card. I'm getting arrested again.

You know what? I. I don't think I've had any major claimants this week, which has been this month, which has been good. I might have started to learn. Learn my lessons, mate. Like, you're growing up. I think I might be like, unteachable.

And ungovernable, but apparently you can learn, mate.

No, I think, I think I'm getting there. Like, I only. I only lost my watch and sunnies once and then someone found them on the beach in, in. In Greece.

And everything else has been pretty, pretty good, mate. From, from memory.

That's awesome.

Out of all the places you've traveled to, which one would you want to go back to again?

Greece. I love Greece. Eos was my favorite island. Like, that was epic. Beach clubs, water, water sports, we did the. We did the. The biscuiting. Yep. So that was wicked. And we. We went around to these bars in Eos and you could win these jerseys. So had these wicked merch.

Yeah.

So but to get them, you had to do seven shots. There's seven shot packages, so €40 and you had to do seven shots. So we were just trying to collect, you know, these. These singlets, but you obviously had to do seven shots. So I was like, hell, so.

And, mate, you sent me a video of you at a bar. Do you remember? Do you remember this video?

Do I remember? I'm still sore.

You got. You got to tell everyone.

So one of the bars, right, in Eos, to get the free merch, you had to have a slap shot. And basically what you do, you go up and you have a shot and then there's this chick over the bar that just slaps the. Out of you. Now, not just like, little, Like a little pussy tap, like a proper slap. I was bruised up. So you basically take this shot and then she just clock show the face. And it's not just like fingers, it's like she's palming you. Like she's just got your palm in your jaw. I was pretty. I was like, oh, Jesus.

It was literally like. When I saw it and heard that sound, it's like, you know those. Those guys that do that, like, slap competition where they hit each other in the face? It was dead set like that. And you're just like. And you could hear you and the slap over the massive crowd.

Yes. It was whack, mate. So anyway, that's some cool bars. Got some merch. It was just a good time. Met some cool people. Yeah, Greece was a good time. Greece was fun.

That's awesome, man. Mate, what a trip.

Yeah. Epic trip, mate. Keen to. Keen to do some more travel, man. I think that's what I realized. I just want to keep. Keep building the. The business, keep working with people. I mean, crypto is so good, right? You can work with, you know, anywhere in the world.

So I also think now we're maturing as a business and we're structuring it to live our lives a lot better. We don't have to do everything. A lot of the things are sorted. Yeah. And especially in your role, you can travel because the activities you're doing can fit in with that 100%.

Yeah. And even, like this week in South Korea, get a bunch of content done, you know, got some platinum calls, speaking an event. It's been fun.

Brilliant, mate.

Well, thanks very much everyone for listening. Sorry we took a few, you know, three weeks off. We need a little bit of a spell, but hopefully you filled in. You know why we've been away. And we'll be back to our regular programming for here on in. So thanks so much for tuning in, guys. Love for you to share it around if you liked it. And we'll see you on the next episode.

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