26 Aug 2026 · 14 min
In this episode of the Scaling Up Business Podcast, Bill Gallagher introduces a doctoral research study seeking CEOs to assess the relationship between hours worked and leadership effectiveness, then outlines the four recurring leadership behaviours that impede scaling: (1) Failure to delegate, illustrated by "Thomas" who could not exit his company for seven years; (2) Micromanagement, shown through "Lee" whose hands‑on control caused massive turnover; (3) Perfectionism, exemplified by "Eddie" whose endless tweaking of frameworks led to personal and business collapse; and (4) Strategic myopia, demonstrated by "Rocky" whose over‑expansion and loss of focus reduced a $2 billion company to a $200 million breakup. Gallagher challenges listeners to identify which sin they embody, seek feedback from peers or coaches, and promises a follow‑up story about Michelle Kripalani. The episode also promotes his book Busy Is Broken and provides links to the study and book resources.
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So I have a quick favor before we go.
I'm in the middle of my doctoral research and I need some CEOs. Here's the question: is there a point where working more hours actually indicates a worse leader? Nobody's measured it before. I'm measuring it now. So if you're a CEO or president with at least 10 people in the business and 3 direct reports, it takes just a few minutes and your team answers a few anonymous questions. But what you get back is a report comparing how you rate yourself to how your team rates you. That gap is usually the interesting part. The link is scalingcoach.com/study. Again, scalingcoach.com/study. The link's also in the show notes. Help me out now, please.
After nearly 2 decades of coaching in one form or another, 13 years of coaching full-time, touching, working with thousands of leaders around the world, in depth with hundreds of leaders, I notice 4 behaviors that really get in the way of scaling. We do all the work in scaling. We get the strategy right. We build up the teams. We lay in great execution frameworks and structures. We set priorities and we make plans and we have dashboards and metrics and we do all these kinds of things, have great meeting rhythms, and we optimize the cash, and the business model for the business. And then somehow we still have issues. And I think the thing that we miss out a lot that isn't there so much that I love talking about are these 4 behaviors that I think get in the way. I wanna talk to you about these. I call 'em sins, the 4 sins. So hey, before we get into all that, my name's Bill Gallagher. This is the Scaling Up Business Podcast. The show comes to you every week. This series of conversations is drawn from my book, Busy Is Broken. You Can Get Busy Is Broken, wherever you buy your books, Amazon, etc. So go order a copy right now and read the whole thing for yourself, all the stories, all the diagnostics, that kind of thing. This is a little snippet from it about the 4 sins, and I'll give you some of the examples and stuff from the book to get you started with it, give you something to think about right now. So all that and more, and like, subscribe this so you get it next week and so on, the next one. But what are the 4 sins? So the 4 sins are pretty simple. I'm gonna give you some examples of each of them. But first sin is failure to delegate. Delegation is the first sin. You don't actually delegate. The second sin is micromanagement. Micromanagement is I have people I've delegated, but I'm still up in your business. The third sin is perfectionism. Perfectionism is I just keep— maybe you're off working on it, but every time it comes back, I noodle on it. I add a little another thing. I'm like, I never let anything ship, either my work or your work, and that gets in the way. The last sin is strategic myopia. I'm too inwardly focused on the business. I'm not looking out in the world. So that's the fourth. Of the 4 sins. And there's other things we do, but these are the 4 biggest things that I see again and again. So what do I mean by each of these? Let me paint a picture of each of them. The first one, and these stories are actually all in the book throughout. There's a chapter in particular on the 4 sins and then some deeper case studies on each of these things. But first one up is a guy, I'll call him Thomas.
Thomas.
The sort of more cautionary tales, I use anonymous names for them, fictionalized names for people, and I distort the facts a little bit so that we don't embarrass or make people uncomfortable talking about their sins. So Thomas sets up this great company. It's a beautiful company, great in the world, lots of potential value. But Thomas's failure to delegate spanned decades and it Kept him from selling the company when he wanted to retire. So when Thomas wanted to tighten up things and then go to sell the company, instead of taking a year or two, it took more than 7 years. And this at an age where, you know, it would have been really great. Thomas was now much older, approaching 70 years old when I first met him, and wasn't able to exit that company for some time because he had failed to delegate.
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He had lots of people. So, you know, we can have lots of whos around our business and not have given things away to them. We have helpers. We're surrounded by helpers who work on things, but they are not owners of things. So failure to delegate. And it doesn't matter how many people you have. It's the way that you handle the tasks, functions, processes of the business. And another business very much like this that I worked with in Northern California where the founder delegated to one person and he brought in the replacement person for him, but he set them up much like he had and put them in a structure like he had. And until they made a change, they had the same problem that he had. So he brought in a replacement for himself, and then that person struggled because they were surrounded by people. I'm not talking about a small— I mean, it's a small business, I suppose, in the grand scheme of things, but 75 people. Thomas also had a fair number of people between the the office, the warehouse, the manufacturing. There's a lot of people in that business. This other business I'm talking about in Northern California, 75 people. The founder replaced himself with someone and they're surrounded by lots of helpers. But the replacement, the COO who comes in behind the founder, is also deluged, overwhelmed, like can't deal with anything, can't think, is stressed out, is exhausted because people just keep bringing them things. Because they haven't delegated the decision, the execution of things. They're still involved. They have people doing things, but all of the thinking and ownership of things comes back to them. So that's delegation. Micromanagement is more like Lee in the book. So I come in, Lee's actually a successor also to a founder. Founder didn't like to meddle in things. Founder was also a bit of a micromanager and then hired a micromanager or like them. So Lee comes in to take over from the founder and, and this nationwide healthcare company, and it's already a pretty big company. They come in to have me help them get better at hiring people because they need to hire, they say, 400 people a month. But 400 people a month would be a staggering amount of turnover in a bit like a 4,000-person business. And they had just taken for granted that's the way things were in their industry. But as I started to work at just the first level of who owns what. I realized that yes, there was delegation. There were people, but there was enough cross-ownership and the founder and now the replacement CEO had their hands in everything. I mean, to the point we even like, I'm running an offsite and Lee's telling me how to do the warm-up exercise and changing it on the fly because Lee can't let anything Go. Lee's involved in everything. That habit had probably started in middle school, I, I think, from what I gleaned from it, about 8th grade. And, and, uh, Lee probably was the one who, you know, could get the project done, so didn't work well with the other teammates, letting them do things on a, like, a school project. Had to be the one who filled in and did all the parts for everyone. And probably it was nice for a student to do that, but it didn't Right. So perfectionism gets in the way. Now, in the case of Lee, people were stifled, suppressed, especially the new executives who came in from other professional backgrounds. They were like frustrated and thwarted and suppressed and upset about the situation. So old and new both started to churn out The turnover was very difficult and became a real issue in the company. So the company didn't go out of business. The company existed. But the amount of money wasted and the turnover in staff was enormous until Lee settled down and stopped micromanaging quite as much. So micromanagement is you've delegated and you haven't given things away. away. Perfectionism is the case of Eddie. So Eddie, another West Coast company, a tech business, we coached also enough people that there was plenty of people to give things away to. And we did delegate and Eddie wasn't— Eddie's form of, like, I suppose it's extended micromanagement, was perfectionism. So Eddie would read a new book, a new story, a new framework, and he'd be like, okay, now we're doing OKRs. OK, now we're doing Radical Candor. OK, I changed up all these. We want to go a little further than we did with the one-page job scorecard. He turned the job scorecard into an 8-page job scorecard, not a one-page job scorecard. People were like, what do I even do? How many KPIs can I possibly have? All these things, all these lists, all these skills and qualities, it's beyond. It was so overwhelming to them. Same thing true around OKRs versus priorities versus rocks versus we're going to use this software platform and that software platform and on and on and on. We're going to do radical candor, which is just an excuse for talking too long in their case or dumping on people. It just went on and on. So the overwhelm of perfectionism got in the way. So it wasn't just like, let's do OKRs and run with that, or let's do rocks and run, or let's do priorities. Or let's have the job scorecard or the whatever. It was always, always, always, always changing, right? I have more than a couple CEOs like Eddie. In Eddie's case, both his marriage failed and the company failed. The company went out of business, was sold off for parts. Eddie's marriage failed, became a weekend dad. I don't wish that for anybody. That is an example of perfectionism, right? Not shipping things. I see this again and again in quite a few companies. The CEO, the restless CEO who keeps reading another book and bringing in another and another and another and another. Settle down. All of our books and things like that, they say a lot of the same things. You need just a couple of them, right? Not a jillion of them, right? Find the one or two and master that. Stick with that. The last one is strategic myopia. So this is one of the more painful ones. I open with the story of Rocky fairly early in the book. Rocky came in as the replacement for the founders in a tech company that went to over $2 billion. But Rocky decided they were going to be in all kinds of things everywhere, and he outsourced their strategy to a big-name firm, spent a lot of money to develop a 100-page strategic plan that opened too many fronts. In their case, it was 4 instead of just 1 where they had risen to $2 billion value Now they're going to be in 4 things because, oh, they've got 1,000 people now and a $2 billion valuation. But they're talking about competing with many billion-dollar companies now, global behemoths. And they started to stumble. And then Rocky got so involved in all kinds of things, customer issues and things like that, but essentially internal, he forgets what they're doing. He loses the plot on the strategy. It's too divided. He's too divided. He tries to be Superman. And the company goes from a $2 billion value to selling off in parts for less than $200 million. Definitely the most painful of those stories. So failure to delegate, delegate but then micromanage, perfectionism, not letting anything get out the door without endless changes and mired in forever, like perfectionism, failing to ship things, and then becoming too involved in the operation of the business. You're not looking at the big picture. That really is the 4 sins. So, my challenge for you over the next couple of weeks is, which of the sins are you doing? And very often we do more than one of them. But which one do you do the most? What do you lead with? What gets you in trouble first? And then how do you compound it? I'd just like you to notice it for the next little bit. We've talked in the past about the 5 engines, why we do what we do. Spend this next 2 weeks thinking about what you do. In addition to looking in the mirror and your personal reflection, ask your 4 mates for clues or a buddy if you have like an accountability buddy. Ask your coach if you work with a coach. Talk to some of the people on your team. Give them permission to be honest with you. Ask them, which of these sins am I guilty of? Where do I need to like level up? So that's my challenge for you for the next little bit. In the next episode of this series in a couple weeks out, I'll talk to you and tell you the story about Michelle Kripalani. Michelle Kripalani is somebody that some of you probably know from EO down in San Diego area and has a really heartwarming, heartbreaking story about leading a business one way and then having a transformation in a different stage of life. and that. So that's all coming up next week. In the meantime, go find the book Busy Is Broken wherever you buy your business books, Amazon or wherever, and go to busyisbroken.com. Claim your reward for being part of the preorder crew. And until then, keep scaling. Busy Is Broken, busyisbroken.com, go look for that. We'll talk to you next time. Keep scaling. Have a great couple of weeks.
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Thanks for listening today. One last thing. If anything in this episode hit home, my book digs into it further. Busy Is Broken: Do Less, Scale More. It's all about how to stop drowning in work and build a business and a team that scales without you. Available right now with content samples at busyisbroken.com. Go grab it.
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