"Let's Talk About Bryan Johnson" - Dr Andrew Huberman

None of us live forever except Brian Johnson. Just kidding. And by the way, if people want to know my take on Brian, I've known Brian for a long time. We go way back. And I think it's wonderful that he's doing what he's doing. And I think he's, you know, I don't know him well enough to say, like, people always want to know, like, what's he, you know, I think it's great that somebody's exploring the field of longevity from the perspective he is and other perspectives. So for that, for just my.

I got to give you my take on Brian. So I was at, I was at a. Seen Brian in person maybe two or three times. I was at Roatan, the. An island off Honduras with him.

Okay.

At the start of this year. And then I did a Jeffersonian dinner breakfast with him.

Very Bay area. To do a Jeffersonian dinner.

Yeah. While he brought, he brought some of the Bay area over and I had some of his nutty pudding and I had a sit down with him. And the way that I think of Brian is kind of like a scout in an army. So it wouldn't do to have an entire army filled with scouts.

It would be a pretty shitty army. But I'm more than happy to have.

That one guy who apparently is built to be a scout, go up that really dangerous hill over there that maybe the view's beautiful, or maybe you slip and catastrophe occurs or something and come back and tell us what he found. I love that. Thank you.

He's a bit of an astronaut, correct?

Yeah.

You expend time and effort and resources and all of that finding out stuff. I'm, you know, I'm all, I'm all for him doing that. And I'll take the, you know, top 20% or whatever that gives the 80% of the, of the insights from him. Yeah, yeah.

He's part of this incredible tapestry that's being built, a public facing health and science information. You know, never before in human history has health and science information been dispersed in the way that it is now through podcasts, through traditional media, from physicians, from scientists, from ancient wisdom stuff. I mean, I can sit back from all of it. See Brian, see my position in the field, see the Lane Norton, see the people that attack us, see the, the fda, see the, the nih. And I can look at it and, you know, I mean, listen, I was on a grants review panel until, you know, a little over 12 months ago. I was a regular member on there. I've reviewed grants, written grants, fortunately gotten Many grants funded. Plenty of grants didn't get funded too. I understand the process and I understand people's different orientation and, and realize that we're all after the same thing. We're all, we all want to live longer, healthier lives with more vitality. Like we're all after the same thing. And what I'm interested in is the overlap in the Venn. So if you call it yoga, NIDRA or nsdr, if you're talking about REM sleep and the dynamics of spindle waves in the brain, or you're talking just about your dreams and you're doing a dream journal, ultimately I'm interested in the practices that are true now that have always been true and that can evolve through technology that are going to allow us all to be healthier, mentally, physically, et cetera. That's the mission. So you, you nailed it. You want a Brian Johnson on the mission. You want a Lane Norton on the mission. I like to think you want an Andrew Huberman on the mission. You want Chris on the mission. You want all these people on the mission and the FDA and the nih, and you want the arguments. What you don't want, and what I see is incredibly counterproductive, is people taking the stance that only their view is the appropriate one. As long as people voice their motivations and their logic for proposing what they propose, it's mostly all good. Except the stuff that's dangerously, dangerously bad. Okay, that's not good. But listen, I chuckle at the idea that any one of these perspectives is going to be the, the perspective. And in fact, I throw my head back and laugh because if you look historically, all you have to do, if you, if you really are having trouble sleeping or if you really want a dense book. The Prince of Medicine is a beautiful book that talks about Galen and how our understanding of the human body and medicine really evolved from really people being allowed to do more and more in terms of human dissection and analyzing the human body, something that wasn't allowed prior because of rules about dissecting human bodies and the understanding that government bodies, plus funding, plus curiosity, have all, you know, been these competing forces. And that the, the acceleration of science and medicine is now taking place at a rate that is unprecedented. Crispr brain, machine interface and yes, I'll say it, psychedelics and supplementation, they're just compounds. People go supplements. None of that's regulated. Yeah, and you could also have a conversation about SSRIs, which have huge value but can also do huge damage. So any qualified psychiatrist will tell you that so right now we are on an accelerated path and I think the, the challenge for most, they're drinking from the fire hose and they don't know which filters to put up. And so all I can say is it's super exciting, right? It's super, super exciting. But you want to argue about these different orientations about as much as you want to argue about what genre of music is best. There's just no answer, right? Most people love Taylor Swift and there are people that also love other forms of music. And you're always going to find outliers at, at the extremes. So unless something is dangerous, right. I think that most, most of the I see out there warrant further exploration and some are just really darn good. So I'm glad that Brian came up because I think he represents one spoke on the wheel and it's an important one. In his absence, I think the field will progress less quickly. I just wish that people would look at things through these lenses. I also think for the generation coming up that were weaned on social media, it's very important that they realize something that David Goggins has said. I just feel like it's appropriate to say this right now, right now, because most of what's happening online is a consumer based environment. I think he said it's easier than ever to become extraordinary now that it's hard to overstate the power of putting away the phone and doing some writing or putting away the phone and doing some musical training or putting away the like it's. And then using social media as a place to put your efforts out into the world as opposed to place your efforts while standing there obliviously in the real world. Like the people that realize that the direction of flow needs to be from real world into electronic world and out as opposed to the other way, are going to be the ones that are going to succeed in life. Barring some accident or injury, you're almost guaranteed success relative to your peers. It's that simple.

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