The Science Behind Energy Work with Brenda Johnston

You're listening to the PT Profit podcast, episode number 375, the Science Behind Energy Work with Brenda Johnson.

Hi, I'm Beverly Simpson, former fitness manager turned online personal training business owner. And this podcast is where smart fitness professionals, including trainers and clinicians, discover how to increase client performance in movement, package and position their products and services, and get out of their own way so that they can increase their revenue to live a life life that they love without sleazy sales. Welcome to the PT Profit Podcast.

Welcome back to the PT Profit Podcast. My name is Chris and I'm giving you your intro for this upcoming episode. In this episode, Beverly sits down with Brenda, an expert in energy work, to explore how understanding and managing our energetic systems can completely transform not only our lives, but but also our businesses. In this episode, Brenda dives into a holistic approach that goes beyond just left brain logic. She explains how aligning your energy, clearing blocks and tapping into your highest self can help you show up authentically and attract the right clients. Brenda also shares insights on differentiating between discomfort and true intuitive guidance, plus her practical methods, including a quick daily practice for managing energy effectively. So if you've ever felt stuck, disconnected, or unsure how to move forward, this conversation will give you tools to clear the noise, stay aligned, and make meaningful progress. Let's jump into it.

What's up? Brenda, thank you so much for joining me on the show today. How are you?

I'm so excited to be here. I'm doing great. I love having these conversations. So I'm just really grateful that you were like, hey, let's chat. And I was like, yeah, okay, let's do this.

Oh, this is going to be amazing. I mean, I wanted to hit record before we even when we were just in the green, green room discussing what we're going to talk about. Because for those of you who have not been introduced to the pleasure of Brenda's work, it is really literally going to change your life. Like literally within the next 60 minutes, your life is about to be changed. So get ready to rock and roll. Okay, so Brenda, with that said said, can you share with us a little bit? We were talking about the difference between the left brain and the right brain before we even just hit record. Can you share with us for my left brain people, some of the differences and some of the exp in what you bring to the table when it comes to your really light, your left brain linear people who are introduced to energy work for the first time.

Yeah. So, I mean, what I do is really cool because I don't actually believe we should be focused on the left brain or the right brain. When I'm working with people, we're, we're connecting in the whole brain state because as human beings it's actually our birthright to use both hemispheres of our mind. But having said that, most of us, we do grow up pretty left brained. We are very logical and that is terrific. But for somebody like me who focuses on the subconscious kind of work, it's very interesting when you start to work with people who are very left brained, very analytical, very scientific. Because what starts to happen is they start to open up to new possibilities when it comes to energy. And when we talk about energy, I'm not like a woo woo energy healer. I'm teaching people how to work with their own energetic systems just like you do. All these people in fitness, they're doing the same thing, they just might not realize it. So for me it really is interesting because the left brain folks are like, wow, I didn't, I didn't realize that if I start managing my energy and start to understand my energy, like my business actually grows easier. And I was like, mm.

Yeah. So you mentioned that you deal with the energetic systems. Can you share with us what are the energetic systems and how, you know, if this was the first time we were being introduced to this type of work. What is, what are the energetic systems and how do you use them to help people grow their business?

Well, I'm pretty sure everybody listening to this knows on some level that every single thing is made of energy. Like it's science. We've been taught that. So when I'm teaching people how to work with their own energetic systems, we're talking about like our energy body, might be our chakra systems, might be our biofield, which is, I go like this because it's like the bubble around us, we all have one. That is the main thing that I'm getting people to kind of tune into. Because when we are safe and contained in our own energy, we start to get more clarity. Our intuition can drop in faster. We start to move through the fog faster. Like it's just, it's so powerful. And like I just said, everything is energy, including your businesses. So I'm helping people set up and separate the energies. So I would take you for example and I'd say, okay, let's set up the energy of your business so that you recognize your business is separate from you. It is not something to weigh you down. It is meant to be a partner, a co creator, something that supports you the challenge is we. Again, back to the left brain. We're all taught more strategies, more funnels, more this, more that. It's like the business, especially if you're like, a solopreneur or you have a small team, the business can sometimes almost feel like a weight. And we don't want that. We want the business to feel like a partner that supports you and supports your clients, which, to some people listening might be like, that just sounds crazy. And I. I can understand that, because I used to think that way, too. But once you experience the energy. Listen, everybody listening to this, I guarantee has experienced some sort of, like, energy vampire in their life where they are sitting there going, oh, every time I'm around this person, I just feel drained. Or every time I'm in a room full of, like, 200 or more people giving a presentation, I just feel drained and exhausted. That's energy. You are not protecting your energy, so you're taking on everybody else's crap.

How did you get into this work?

Oh, my lanta. When I was a little kid, actually, so I just turned 50, so this is. This is a lot of. Thank you. When I was a little kid, I could see energy, and I just thought everybody could see it. I didn't know. And so growing up in the 80s, that wasn't really a cool thing to be telling people, because back then, it wasn't a typical thing. So, of course I end up kind of shutting all that stuff down because, of course, my parents didn't want the other kids to think I was Delulu. And as I got older, I just ended up working with mentors who were in the energy field. And some of them were very scientific. Like, I'm big into sound frequencies. Not even just sound bowls, like, actual tuning forks. And the woman who I learned stuff from, she's, like, full on science. She's written books. She's been studying this stuff for, like, 30 years. So the more I started to learn about our energy body and the energy outside of us, the more I kind of became obsessed with it. And then when I started really studying the subconscious mind and understanding that, like, the subconscious helps us create our energetic signatures, like, I just. I really became obsessed. And it's hilarious because I think for 24 years I worked in marketing, and so I was unknowingly also using the energy stuff there, but I didn't realize it at the time. So that's the long. The short, long story, I guess we'll call that.

Yeah. So now what? How do you help people set up their. Their you know, their energetic fields or their energetic systems.

Well, the one thing with me is I don't like fluff and I don't feel like anybody should be adding stuff to their day. That's gonna take a really long time. Um, so the first thing that I'm doing with people is teaching them in four and a half minutes, yes, you can do it in four and a half minutes. How to clear your energy, how to connect to the energy of the earth and the universe, or God or whoever you speak to, and how to protect yourself. So putting yourself in your bubble, that is the foundation of my work. You first need to learn to manage your own energy. Cause if you are not taking care of your own shit, setting up the business, energetics is a problem. We need to get people just looking at it and going, oh, yeah, okay, so I'm, I'm feeling safe and contained in my own bubble. I'm getting clear on what I need to do. And then from there what we're doing is we're building on that. So what happens is, typically when I'm working with people, we start creating beliefs to support this stuff, subconscious beliefs. We're not talking about fluffy surface level shit. And we are clearing out trapped emotional energy to help support this. And so the way I do that is based on a Chinese medicine technique. We're using the governing meridian. Again, science. And from there, then we can start to set up the energetics of the business. And one of the main ways we do that is I lead them through a journey. It's a 10 minute kind of meditation. I hate, I hate the word meditation also because I don't like to meditate. I never have. It's a journey and it's a visualization. We're helping them connect into the energy of the business through visualization. And what that does is it helps them really see the business as a separate entity. And then we take them through a journey that connects them to their highest potential self. So what we're really doing, we're creating new beliefs to help support the businesses they want to build. And we're expanding their mind to new possibilities all through visualization and whole brain activation. Because remember, we get to use both sides of our brain, not just one.

But yes, so true. Okay, so now when you said too like the one of the things you said 4 and a half to manage your energy, what does that mean? And how does someone know that their energy is managed?

Oh, girl, you know what I'm gonna do when we're done this, I'm gonna send you the link to my free. It's four and a half minutes daily energy management practice and so everybody can download it.

Perfect.

It's very funny because I always say, listen, I get it. Energy is not. It's not like a tangible thing. You're not sitting there going, wow, look at my muscles. Wow, look at the money in my bank.

Right.

Having said that, when you are consistently doing this, when you don't do it, that's when you're going to know what the difference is. Because when you don't do it, after you've been consistent, it often people will say, man, I feel like I got hit by a truck. I'm feeling like I'm in the fog. I'm really confused. My confidence has gone down. It's like, yeah, because you're used to being safe and contained and now you skipped a day and you can't Half ass energy is what I always say to people. It just doesn't work. And the other thing is, you will know when you are managing your energy effectively because energy speaks before your mouth even opens. So when you are doing your marketing and you're creating copy and you're doing all the things, people are going to feel it differently. When people are trying to create offers and price things and put stuff on social media. If you don't fully believe on a subconscious level what you're doing, your energy is speaking before your mouth even opens. That's. Those are the people that you're just like, oh, no, I don't. You can actually start repelling your ideal clients because you're in this pick me energy. And you can see the pick me energy go on Instagram, scroll through. It's the people doing the. Oh, and then do this, this, this, this and this. Yes, value content is great, but when you're doing it from this state of like, I need to make money, people feel that it's gross. Mm.

Yeah. It's that push energy that, like begging desperation, like, please, please pick me, pick me versus the like the presence. Like, I'm here, this is.

I'm gonna pull. Yeah. Be the authority. Be the authority in your field. Speak like an authority. Speak with conviction. And that happens when you're safe and containing your energy. When you are managing your energy, you're not showing up from that repelling energy. And I know, listen, we can say till our face is blue that it's not about the money, but it really, it can't just be about the money. Because if you're trying to build and market and write copy and all the things from a space of I just want to make more money, it's just about money. That's going to be really difficult for you. You might be able to do it for a little while, but you're not going to be able to sustain it. And you're not going to be calling in your ideal clients. You're going to be calling in the ones that are like going to ask you a million questions before they buy from you. You're going to be calling in the ones who don't really want to commit. It's when you start managing your energy. It's honestly, it's a game changer. Like it should be foundational for everybody, I think.

So true and so good. No, I'm curious, I'm curious. You know, you were talking about the subconscious mind. You were talking about creating beliefs and then releasing trapped emot experience, right? So, you know, for anyone who, who's not new to this and maybe they feel like I am doing the subconscious mind reprogramming. How do you navigate the difference between, like this is, you know, you are operating from an understanding and not a knowing versus something that is more like, hey, you just need to wait or, or the universe needs to kind of shift and rearrange things. It's coming and working. How do you navigate that nuance and understanding the difference?

So I'm a little different than a lot of people because yes, I do believe the universe does help us out with things. But as the humans with the higher consciousness, it's us that's taking all the actions. So when people come in, the typical thing is they've probably done a lot of surface level mindset work. So there's a lot of people out there who package things up really nicely when it comes to mindset. And they're like, we're doing the subconscious work. And I'm sitting here going, no, you're not. You can't do the subconscious work effectively only from your conscious mind. So I'm talking about things like journaling, things like affirmations, which I love affirmations, if they're done correctly. Um, things like asking yourself certain questions based on, again, journal prompts, yes, those are good tools. But to effectively work with the subconscious mind, you actually need to bypass your critical factors. So we need to go in using stuff like hypnosis or whole brain activation, which we are putting you in a certain posture to connect you to both hemispheres of your mind. We could literally change a belief in under two minutes. Doesn't have to be hard. So when the People come in and they're like, you know, I've been doing all this stuff and nothing's working, or I have some success, and then I fall back on my old behaviors. I'm like, yes, sometimes the things you think are beliefs, that's actually trapped emotional energy. We all have thousands of trapped emotions. Okay. It doesn't mean we need to release them all. It means, let's say you really have done a lot of work on your beliefs, but you still can't break through that glass ceiling, that plateau, still can't make over a certain level of money. That right away tells me, trapped emotional energy. Something. There is an emotion that you've held onto from who knows what, that's blocking the flow. Think of a. Like a tap, right? If you only turn on the tap a little bit, the water trickles out. But if you turn on the, like, fully, the water fully comes out. Same thing with your energetic system. Imagine it running from, like, the base of your spine all the way up. If there's stuff inside of you blocking the flow of energy, that can also affect your beliefs. It's a very cool web. This is what I'm gonna call it, because our energy affects our beliefs, but our beliefs can also affect our energy. So for me, it's really easy for me to tell what's going on based on conversations I have with people. And for most people, they get to the point where they're like, okay, I'm starting to realize that there are many layers to things, like an onion. And as we peel back one layer, other shit leaves at the same time. Like, it's. I love what I do because it's. It doesn't have to take a long time, and it doesn't have to be hard. People are making things way harder than they need to be. And I think part of that is because a lot of people who talk about the business energetics and the energetics of us, they're talking out of their ass and they don't actually understand it.

Yeah. So is that why you would say sometimes it, like, some people feel like they. Why it takes so long for people to, you know, manifest or bring. Call in the right clients or. Or hit their goals when they feel like, you know, I know for me, I'll just speak for me and I'll. I'll give you tangible examples. Like, when I first started getting into personal development and into this work, I started to operate and get into this, like, headstays that, like, I needed to be healed whole and complete in order for me to get My, my dreams and desires. And so it would always constantly almost feel like a shame spiral that I would go in of like, oh, my gosh, I had a bad thought, I'm not going to get my dreams. Or I would be like, oh, my gosh, I. All these, like I was, you know, I have all these things from, you know, when I was 2 years old. If I don't, if I don't heal it, if I can't find it, if I can't heal it, I'm not going to. I'm not going to get my dreams. So I, I know for me, I felt like I had to like, come from this place of if I'm not whole and quote, unquote, perfect, which I'm putting in quote, then I'm not going to get. That means I won't get my, my goal. So, you know, and it would feel like I have this huge mountain to hit and it never felt like it was going to be fast. You know what I'm saying?

Love that you brought this up. I love this. Yes. So we have been taught along the way. Listen, I love spirituality, but it has become very trendy over the years and so there's all sorts of different thought processes. And what I'm going to say is if you believe something to be true, then that's going to be true for you. So in your case, you believed you had to heal all the things and do all and always be positive and focus on whatever. So that became your truth. Your subconscious mind was like, oh, yeah, we need to heal. The truth is we do not need to heal every single thing. We do not constantly have to be positive. There's been times in my life where I've made a shit ton of money and I was not in a good mental state. Like when I was getting divorced in my 30s, like, I was not happy, sunshine.

Yeah, but I made money, Right?

But it's like, there's a lot of people out there, unfortunately, who, I'm actually going to use the word, they. They prey on people's insecurities and fears and desires, right?

Because they're like, people want this. They want, like this being. Like, they want healthy relationships, they want a healthy business, they want to have a healthy body. So they are looking for it.

Yeah. And what I often say to people, and this comes with business, money, relationships, health, all the things. The biggest challenge people have is they have a receiving problem, meaning you're not fully open to receiving things. So if you're not open to receiving love, you're also not Open to receiving money, you're also not open to receiving certain things. With health, everything is about, are you open? Do you believe that you're worthy of having those things? Now, if we walked around saying, you know, I don't think you're worthy of having that, people would tell you to piss off. Because nobody wants to sit there and go, I don't believe I'm worthy of that. So what starts to happen when I'm working with people is they unknowingly bust through all of those limitations. Because one, we're creating the new beliefs. Two were focused on the energy. But most importantly, they're starting to understand that what they think, what they believe, the intentions they set, they really do get to create the reality. You believed you had to heal all this stuff, but that's not a reality. It's the reality you were living. But now you have a new reality, right? It's like, oh, I don't need to do all that. You don't need to heal all the traumas. You don't need to keep going backward. People, listen to me. Right now. We create from the present moment. You don't need to go back there. Now. The work I do with people, are we indirectly healing some things from back there? Yes. But I'm not taking you back to sit in the shit because you don't need to do that. You need to be here in the present moment, and you need to have clarity on what you actually want to create. Here's a perfect example. I was working with one of my clients yesterday. She just finished up with me. When she came to me, she had invested, oh, I wanna say she'd invested, like, over a hundred thousand dollars in business coaching, like traditional business coaching. And she was really frustrated because she didn't feel any further ahead. And so what had happened and what she started to realize was she wasn't clear on what her business actually was versus what products were. So in her head, she was trying to create the business based on these products that she has. She's like, but I just don't understand, like, how to speak to the people. I don't understand how to do. And I'm like, your products are just tools. You. You're the brand. And when I said that to her, I could see. Like, the first time I said it, I could see her energy shrink and freak out. But the end, I could see her shoulders kind of drop down and she looked at me and she was like, I've never had this clarity before because she was so tied up in the products. Being the business. They're not. They're just tools. I'm like, no, you're the. You are the brand. You can have all these other things underneath you. And so when we created her business energy, everything started to shift for her. Clients started coming in quicker. She was able to raise her rates without vomiting on herself. She was able to put herself out there and be visible because she had clarity. And so many people aren't actually clear whether it's who they really want to work with. A lot of them come to me, and they are working with people that someone at some point has said, oh, these are your ideal clients. And they're sitting there going, but those aren't my ideal clients. That's not who I want to work with. I've had people in my own career coaches for me, and they're like, you know, you should work with these people that have deep trauma. And I'm sitting here going, no, I don't want to work with those. Those aren't my ideal clients. Because many people want to hold on to the trauma on some level. Like, they're not. And I know that sounds bad, but a lot of them do. Like, they're. They don't. It's who they've been their whole life. My ideal client are the ones who. They will do the work. They will do what it takes because they're tired of staying where they are. They're the ones who give themselves permission to dream bigger and to make a bigger impact. Do many of them have trauma? Absolutely. But that's not what they're focused on. They're focused on growth so that they can make a bigger impact and help more people.

So true. Have you read the book Existential Kink? Okay, so it's good. I mean, I. I just recommended it to a client of mine, and I'm gonna tell you that it. Like, it. It made me feel kind of ill to read. Like, it's a very hard read, just so you know, especially if this is. If you're like me and you have experienced this, you know, like, I'll tell you, the secondary gain question is very difficult for me to answer. I think I. I would. I would be willing to bet that it's not really difficult for the majority of people to answer, which is the, like, whatever pain that you're holding onto, whatever it is, not that you are responsible for what happened to you, but you are now responsible for healing it. And most people don't want to.

Yeah.

And there's a reason why. And most. And people have a very Hard time getting present to it. And this is what her entire book is this essentially about. And so it's very. And it's basically like how you move through and get present to the truth about what joy you're getting, what pleasure you're getting from the pain and then moving through it. And so it's a hard read but very good. And it kind of brings me, it, it reminds me of what you were saying is that sense of like you know, you, you for whatever reason your subconscious has now taken it on and been like, this is our safety. My set point for a long period of time in my life was chaos.

Yeah, same. Yeah.

Yes.

And I, I come from a very blue collar family. They've all worked very hard over their lifetimes. I'm an only child. I saw my parents working hard. The beliefs I developed because we develop our subconscious beliefs from the age of 0 to 7. But what I was seeing was that making money needed to be hard, you needed to suffer to make money. That wealthy people were somehow not nice people. And I'm saying some of them aren't nice people. But for the most part. And so my chaos from a work point of view, I always had like three jobs. Like I would have an incredible corporate career. I worked in advertising, I was in marketing, I made a good salary considering. But I would always have other. I would be consulting, I would be doing other things. I had this business for almost 10 years before I went out and left corporate. Cuz I was afraid because I didn't know other entrepreneurs. So my belief system around money was really bizarre. Like when I worked in corporate, I couldn't even fathom this whole you could make $10,000 a month like that. To me I was like what? That sounds insane. But then once you do it, you realize it's actually quite easy. And then you start your, your perception of things changes because that's the thing too. Perception. What is your perception of what's been holding you back? What is your perception of what's possible for you? Most people's perceptions are flawed because of the stories they've heard from other people and all. A lot of the times the stories people are carrying around, they're not even your freaking stories. They belong to somebody else. It's like what. When I was, I think I was in my early 40s, I was studying hypnosis while I was working in corporate. I was taking vacation days to go do inclinate work. Like it was crazy. But one of my mentors told this story and she's like this is how messed up beliefs are. She's like, so there's a woman and every year at Christmas they take the ham and the woman cuts off both ends of the ham and she puts it in the pan and throws it in the thing in the oven. One Christmas her husband's like, why are you wasting the ends of the ham? She's like, I don't know because my mom always did that. She's like, that just seems weird. So she calls the mother, she's like, mom, why do we cut off both ends of the ham? And her mom says, well, I don't know because my mom always used to do that. So that's what I do. So then they call the grandmother and the grandmother's like, oh, don't be stupid. The reason I cut off the ends of the ham was cuz I didn't have a pot big enough for it.

But.

And it's such a simple but beautiful story of how the stuff we carry around isn't even ours, but we'll just do it.

Yes, so true. I, I, I, I remember when I heard that story for the first time. I was like, oh my gosh, that's so true. We do that stuff.

All right.

You know, now one of the things that I'm curious about, when do you work with people that will come to you and say things like, I know this is my belief. Yes, I've worked on my belief, but it keeps coming up for me. What do you say to them?

I'm kind of sassy. So my common response to that, they'll come and they go, I have this belief and it's, it's blocking me. I have this block. And I'll say, well, okay, if you think you have that block, then you definitely have that block. But it's not your actual problem. We don't. I, I actually hate the term subconscious blocks because I don't believe we actually have blocks. We have limitations that we're creating for ourself based on saying, I have this block. This is what's going on.

The block is that you think you have a block. Yes, yes, Keep going.

It's like what you were saying earlier. I believed I had to heal all this stuff. Okay, well if that's what you believe, then that's what's happening. We create our own limitations. We are creating our reality based on our perceptions of what is going on. If you tell yourself better stories, you'll have better outcomes. Do we need to shift the subconscious and the energy stuff? Yeah, absolutely. It makes it way faster and easier to move through the stupid stories. But, like, at the end of the day, if you're walking around holding onto this thing, going, oh, this is my block. This is why I can't make more money. This is what's happening. This is why I keep attracting tire kicking clients is what I call them. No, you're bringing those people in because also your energy speaks before your mouth even opens. So that's what you believe is possible for you. That's what is gonna show up. And when we talk about manifesting from, like, a logical point of view, manifesting simply means to make something real. So when we are manifesting the results into our life that we don't actually want, stop and ask yourself what stories you're telling yourself. You'll be surprised. It all starts with self awareness.

How fast can something change then? How long does it typically take? Do you see? And why, girl?

I mean, for most people, it takes a while. Because if you're trying to change subconscious beliefs on a conscious level, that's tough. But the moment you recognize you are the one creating the stories that can actually start to dissolve the subconscious limitations. The challenge is most people don't have that self awareness. They don't have the self awareness to go, oh, I'm telling myself this story. Like, this must be based on something I experienced when I was younger. Because if it was that easy to change the subconscious beliefs on your own, when you work with somebody who's able to guide you through it, it can be very quick. But when we're trying to do it on our own or only going through the conscious level, it takes a long time because most people give up. Because your subconscious mind requires repetition and consistency. Kind of like when you're going to the gym, you don't go once and go, where's my abs? Doesn't work. Like, I mean, some people do that. I don't know. But I know you. It's true. I know it's funny because it's true.

You know, I'm laughing because, like, my clients, like, they will say to me and they'll be like, beverly, I can't believe that my clients are telling, you know, they worked out once and they want to know why they're not shredded. And I was like, oh, kind of like how you put up one post and want to know why you don't have 10k.

Right? But that's also the same thing with me. And I joke because I'll have people saying, well, I've got these amazing services. I got my rates all set, but I Don't have the clients coming in. And I'm like, yeah, I'm watching you on Instagram. I haven't seen you promoting anything. And you know what? Secret businesses don't make money. You have to show up and you have to be consistent. And I get it. People can sit there and go, oh, well, I'm just annoying people. And people should just know that I have this. No, they shouldn't. Why should they just know? You have to show up. And one of the biggest things that happens is so many of the people I work with, and I hate to say this term because this is also very trendy now, but they. They have a visibility issue. They're afraid to show up. But even deeper than that, that visibility issue comes back to they have a receiving problem. They're not.

You said something in your social media recently that I saw, and it was so good. And I want to talk about it because you said you don't have a visibility issue. You have an energy issue.

Yeah.

So, you know, I want, you know, I know that this is something that's come up for me personally, which is like, hey, how do I, you know, how I keep. I. I ask myself, like, what needs to happen in order for me to crack. Crack my visibility? How can I be seen? How can I feel safe to be seen? So I'm curious, you know, what would you say to me or say to your clients that are like, I have a visibility issue?

Oh, I love this question, too. Okay, so this kind of opens the door to what energy are you showing up in? Are you showing up in the energy of the person who believes they have a visibility issue? Are you showing up in the energy of the person who's not confident in what they're selling? Are you showing up in the energy of the person who's desperate to bring in money? Or are you showing up as your highest potential version of you? And I'm not talking about your higher self, people. It drives me nuts when people are like, what would my higher self do? Your higher self is a level of consciousness, okay? It's always there. It's always available to you. I'm talking about your future self, your highest potential self. You can tap into that version of you right now. So if you're looking at it going, oh, man, I have a visibility issue. Ask yourself, the version of me who already has everything she wants, how would she be showing up? Would she be showing up with pick me energy? I don't think so. She'd be showing up with conviction. She'd be showing up with authority. She'd be showing up knowing that she's attracting in the exact right clients. So just ask yourself, like, how am I? What energy am I showing up in? Am I worried about being judged? Am I worried that I'm going to attract in the wrong clients? Am I worried that I'm showing up too much? Which always makes me laugh, as you said, because they post once and they're posting ghosts and you're like, whoa. And here's the thing, too. There are going to be times when you don't show up. I recently lost my dog. It was very traumatic for me. He was like, everything. And for a month, I didn't show up on camera because I knew my energy would not be a match to what I was saying. And there's going to be times in life when that happens. But at the end of the day, you also have to remember it's not about you, it's about the people you're helping. I knew that to help my people, me being on camera at that point was not going to be be helpful. But I still showed up in other ways. I was still on my podcast, I was still doing the things that are consistent. But you have to really just get to know your energy. So the four and a half minute daily energy management, think that's a great place to start. Just by getting grounded and connected and feeling. I was gonna say feeling yourself. That's not what I'm trying to say, but like feeling the energy. Yeah, you know, but it's right, we that question of like, what is the energy I'm showing up in? Such a good question. Are you showing up as a version of you who walks the walk and talks the talk? Are you showing up from the energy of desperation? And again, I challenge everybody listening to this to go on Instagram or go wherever you are and start to notice. It'll drive you nuts. You'll notice the people who are in the wrong energy. I mean, I also have a bit of a benefit because like I was saying when I was little, I could see the energy. When I'm working with people, I can see where things are in your energetic field that we maybe need to shift. Now, am I going, okay, here's your problem, here's your problem here. No, this is not my job to tell you what your problems are. It's my role to help lead you. It's my role to get you to get to where we need to go. The other challenges, and this is really when people are working with energy healers. I'm using Quotes. There's or working with certain people, you have to be really careful. And same with subconscious mind stuff. Stop listening to random shit that's on YouTube that you don't know who created it. You don't know what their intentions were, you don't know what their energy was. Right. So bad. It is so easy to project and imprint stuff onto people. So nobody gets access to my energy because most people have muddy energy and I'm like, no, we don't get to do that. But I've had experiences in the past too where mentors would project their shit onto people. I've seen it happen. And so you have to be really aware of your own shit.

Yeah. So this actually brings, brings me to, you know, two things I want to say. Number one is you talked earlier about perception and I think that's really powerful because I think that, you know, I tell a lot of my clients that your business is, is essentially a direct reflection of your client's perception of your a hundred percent. And so I think that you, you know, mentioned a lot of like how people are just not self aware and they think that they're showing up in one. Well, they think they're showing up in one energy when the reality is that the perception of, of them is not the same what people think and their perception's not the same. So how does someone get present to the truth about how they're being perceived?

Well, again, you manage your own energy because when you're safe and contained in your own energy, you show up from a more authentic space. If you want to know how people perceive you, the other thing you can do, look around. Are you making the money you want to be making? Do you have the idea like is your dream ideal client knocking on your door wanting to work with you? No. There's a big sign that people perceive you differently.

That is so cool.

What is in your world? Take a look around. What's going on in your business if it isn't exactly what you would like it to be doing people, there's a perception issue based on the energy you're giving off. It's as simple as that.

But I'll tell you what comes up for me. When you first say that, it's like, yeah, but it, it's coming. It's coming. I'm in the energy of it's coming.

I love this too. Yeah. So we can be in the energy of it's coming, but if we're in the energy of it's coming, you're chasing it.

Coming. Yes, it's Always in.

It's coming. Yeah. You're constantly on the journey, you're never getting to the destination. And that's easy. It's easy to say, I'm just going with the flow. I'm on the journey, we're doing the things, that's great. But if shit's not changing and you're staying in the same place, that's. That's a problem. We want you moving forward.

Yes. Or pulling in or actually stepping into what you're bringing in.

And you know what else? And I feel like this is the same in the fitness industry. The whole. It's coming, I'm working on it. That's a great excuse to stay stuck.

But Brenda, what about divine timing? Isn't that real?

Yeah. You know what? Divine timing is a thing. I am saying that. But divine timing also happens based on the inspired actions that you're taking. So again, people, stop giving your freaking power away to shit outside of yourself. Stop blaming the moon, stop blaming astrology, stop blaming divine timing. Stop thinking the universe is punishing you because every time you do that, you're giving your power away. And listen again, I'm one of the most spiritual people you are ever gonna meet. But I also know I don't give my power away. I don't blame things outside of myself for my circumstances.

I'm laughing so hard because it's true. And it was actually. It's like the perfect segue is what I was gonna say. Cause you're talking about like listening to your intuition and like that gives you, like, you become a clear channel. Like, that's what I think of. I'm a clear channel inspiration. And I'm laughing because, you know, what do you say to those people? Because you, you know, part of it is inspired action and, and part of what the brain does, which I know I don't have to tell you, but what the brain does is they. It will. It does not, like, change. It does. It's like there's a reason why Buddha said, a thousand monkeys on a leash. He didn't say one, he said a thousand. And so, you know, the brain does not want to change. And so there has. There. You're gonna come this sticking point. There's gonna. There's gonna. Where you have to do something different, otherwise you're going to continue to get what you've always got. Right?

Yeah.

So how, how do you know the difference between like, oh, this is my inspired action, or. Or. Or I need to push through this uncomfortability versus like, oh, wait, no, that's not for you.

Because it feels different. So you can always. And here's the challenge too, because again, some people don't know what they feel like. Like, do you know what your yes feeling is versus your no feeling? Like, if you're going down a dark alley and you have that feeling in your gut and you're sitting here going, I don't think I should go down this alley. Like, listen to that. Our intuitive systems, there's kind of two parts. So our inner guidance is a physical feeling. Inner guidance, the gut feeling, it is always a physical feeling. So ask yourself, oh, I'm having some red flags about this thing. Do you listen to them or do you just go ignore them? Most people ignore them because they're not fully tuned in. Intuition, it literally does. It drops in. It's like you might sit there and go, oh, I just had this amazing idea. But maybe it was an actual intuitive download and not in a airy fairy. I was sitting here today downloading my new program and I'm listen, no judgment. If you're doing that. No judgment. Like, if you're waiting for things outside of yourself, you will always think, oh, divine timing. Said it wasn't for me. This launch didn't work because it wasn't meant to be. And you know what? Maybe a part of that is true. But I'm willing to bet you weren't showing up or you weren't speaking to the right people. Like, there are things. And to add to that, this is where the clarity piece comes in. Sometimes you will create things based on what somebody else tells you to create because you think that they're ahead of you and they must know something that you don't know if you are creating something. And that gut feeling is like, this doesn't feel right. Something feels off. If you're procrastinating, if you're not showing up, listen to that. There is a reason. I had a business coach years ago, wanted me to create this program. I had it all set up and three days, I think it was, before we were going to launch it. I was like, nope, I'm not doing this, because it didn't feel right. It wasn't aligned with the people I wanted to work with. It wasn't something I even wanted to teach, but I had to listen. But then I went through the shame spiral of, oh, now I'm not going to make the money because I'm not doing this. No. You know what happened? I said no to that. And then I opened up to all the ideal people coming in so you guys all have to understand, like, everybody listening to this. Even though this is the work I do, I've still struggled with this stuff, and I still struggle with it. I will go through things. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I. I should create this because one person said they would love that. No, I create services and offers that I know are going to help people based on the problems they think they have. But I have this solution because I know what's really going on. And it's the same with you and the same with your clients. And the same, like, be in tune with what you're creating. Because when you're in tune with that, you don't sit there going, oh, universe said it wasn't my time. The universe is punishing me. The universe doesn't punish you. And the other thing is, we tend to demonize the subconscious mind because that's what we've been taught. We've been taught it likes to keep us safe, which it does. But why not change your perception and learn to work with it instead of against it? Because there's ways to do that. Even just simple language. Like I said earlier, affirmations can be dumb. But I also make affirmation programs because I make them in a way that works with your subconscious mind. There are loopholes. If you're sitting here going, I'm a millionaire, but you've got like $10,000 or $5 in your bank. Yeah. Your subconscious mind is going to try to keep you safe because it knows you're lying. But if you say, I'm the type of person that is becoming a millionaire, or I'm in the process of becoming a millionaire, your subconscious mind takes that as a present moment statement and a truth, and it goes, oh, yeah, wait, that is me. Do you have to keep repeating it? Yes. Repetition, consistency. One of my favorite tricks is I get my clients to set up their passwords on their computer as, like, I am wealthy. I'm the type of person, like repetition. Because how many times do you log into your computer in a day? A lot.

Now, when you say when you didn't. But when you say you're, you know, when you have that affirmation of I'm becoming a millionaire, isn't that fueling the chase, though?

No, because. So with that specific statement, I would actually word it as I'm the type of person who is a millionaire, because then you're not chasing it. Got it. When we say I'm in the process of doing this, you're also not chasing because you literally are in the process of doing it, but not in a way that's like, I'm chasing the money, I'm chasing the dream. It's like, no, I'm currently doing this right now. I'm taking the actions to do this.

So that is so good. So true. Oh, my gosh.

Okay.

I could like literally talk about this for, for a million years, but I do want to be mindful of your time and be respectful of your time. So thank you so much for pouring into me and into us. We'll make sure that we'll take that. I'll make sure that we link up that four and a half minute grounding audio, audio training that you've given that you are so gracious to give us.

Having said that, I also want you doing it and I want you to report back to me and let you know how it goes.

Okay?

Four and a half minutes. Four and a half minutes. If you tell me you don't have four and a half minutes in the day, we have a bigger problem.

Okay, I will. I definitely will. I definitely will. And then also, you know, for those of you who want to work with you, want to learn more about what it is that you do and go deeper with you. Where are some of the best places I can send them?

I'll give you my website link, but the best place, honestly to find me is on Instagram or my podcast, which is the Limitless Life podcast. And I'll give you all those links.

I love that. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

Thank you for having me. I love these conversations.

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