Two speakers debate open versus closed AI model weights. Speaker A calls the bioweapon scenario a rhetorical trap that forces an indefensible position, and defends Dario's closed-weight stance as genuine conviction, not competitive self-interest. Speaker B notes that Anthropic, once praised for safety focus, now faces intense criticism as it grows.
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If Jensen says, look, cyber threats can be defended with AI, therefore open weights can defend against open weights within cyber threats, all Dario has to say is, okay, bioweapon. How is my AI going to defend me from a bioweapon? You can't argue against it.
Fearmongering.
Yeah. Well, Dario, Dario, I am 100% convinced is speaking his mind without an agenda. I'm not 100% sure about anybody else in this debate, but Dario is a brilliant guy laying it out exactly the way he sees it, even at the expense of his own valuation. Everybody A lot of people online are saying, no, no, no, he wants closed weights because he has a competitive advantage. And if nobody else can get access, they'll have to pay him. True. But I don't think that's his motivation. I think he genuinely got into this industry long before there was any money in it.
I think so. But it's interesting. Anthropic has gone from the most beloved safety-conscious company out there to being just raked over the coals over the last couple of days, this last week.
Yeah. Isn't that funny? Seems to be the common trajectory. As soon as you're too big, everybody's like finding ways to just poke at you. Careful on the way up, 'cause you're gonna get— Slam them the way back down.