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In this interview segment, the speakers discuss the ambitious goals of the Healthspan Prize, which rewards age‑reversal breakthroughs rather than incremental longevity extensions. They highlight Martine Rothblatt’s work on regenerating the thymus using a person’s own induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs), noting that the thymus naturally atrophies in the twenties and is critical for immune health. The conversation touches on NewLimit’s roadmap to tackle major tissues, including the thymus, and the desire for muscle rejuvenation, which could synergize with GLP‑1 therapies. The dialogue concludes with a broader philosophical framing: just as death and taxes have been constants for humanity, the speakers claim that scientific advances will “crack death” while Bitcoin will “crack taxes.”

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