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The Killer App of AI Is Code | MOONSHOTS

25 Apr 2026 · 1 min

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In this brief interview excerpt, Speaker A highlights Anthropic’s strategic focus on "cogeneration"—the recursive self‑improving generation of AI models—as a potential singularity killer app, noting that the bet appears to be paying off. Speaker B reflects on Greg Brockman’s early release of Codex, arguing that the industry misread its significance and that the term "copilot" was misleading. According to Speaker B, the AI landscape is moving away from a single‑assistant model toward a future where users will employ dozens or hundreds of specialized agents, effectively replacing the copilot concept with an "army" of AI tools.

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Anthropic focused on cogeneration as its one sort of silver bullet. We talked on this pod, I think almost a year ago, wondering whether that bet would play out. I think we're seeing the bet play out. Just single-minded focus on recursively self-improving cogeneration turns out to be the killer app of the singularity.
I really want to riff on that for one second because Greg Brockman put out Codex very early. For whatever reason, they didn't recognize what a huge deal that could have been, and it still is. But it was, it was brilliant. What it showed us is the word copilot is totally wrong and completely misled us. And the, the concept of a copilot will exist in the world for just a microsecond, but we're transitioning to a point where everybody wants 50 or 100 agents, you know, all these Open Claws. And you're like, I don't want a copilot. It's like, I'm in the pilot's seat. I got a copilot. No, I want a whole army.