458: SEO Tips from a Food Blogger Who Works Full-time at an SEO Agency with Marley Braunlich

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Hey there, this is Emily from the Food Blogger Pro team and you are listening to the Food Blogger Pro Podcast this week. On the podcast, Bjork is interviewing Marlee Braunlich from the food blog Baked Abundance. Marley also happened to start working full time at an SEO agency shortly after she launched her blog, and in this interview she shares more about balancing that full time job and her side hustle, especially since they both happen to be in pretty similar industries and how she's managed the burnout that sometimes comes with balancing those two jobs. Marley also shares some tips and tricks that she's learned from her full time job in the SEO world and how she's worked to optimize her site for SEO, including things like building domain authority and increasing her backlinks. Just a friendly reminder, if you haven't already, we would really appreciate it if you would leave a rating or review for the Food Blogger Pro Podcast wherever you listen to your podcast episodes. Without further ado, I'll just let Bjork take it away.

Marley, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to be here today.

Yeah, we're going to be talking about SEO. A lot of people are interested in that world, but we're also going to be talking about all things like energy, creativity, burnout, outsourcing, things like that when it comes to the world of content creation. But let's start with the world of search. So you made an interesting career change in 2021, not only did you start your site at the same time, but you also started a new job in the world of search. So it's by chance, was it just like, hey, I'm going to start blogging and start this SEO job or what? What was going on at that time in your life where you made kind of these two big changes in your career?

Yeah, I got really lucky because when I started my site, I didn't know anything at all about SEO or keyword research. And it's very interesting to think about what my site, what my site might look like today if I had never gotten my SEO job. Because who knows what I would have posting probably everything under the sun and probably no content strategy at all. So I'm very grateful that that kind of fell into my lap at the same time. I started my blog about two months before I started my SEO job at an, at an SEO agency. And I started my site just posting recipes for fun things I was making for my friends and family. No keyword research, had nothing, no, you know, prior knowledge about that at all. I went from a marketing role over to this SEO role and it's been really fun. I've learned so come really far with all of my knowledge about search and I really enjoy helping my clients and seeing their sites grow and I've been able to kind of put some of that knowledge over to my site as well.

So yeah, that's awesome. It's one of the things that, you know, we talk about this idea of we are all kind of CEOs over our businesses and our businesses could be a part time job, it could be a full time job, it could be freelance, it could be entrepreneurial. But really what we're doing is we're figuring out how do we craft something thing that is a really good fit for who we are and what we're about in our lives. And oftentimes there are those transitionary periods where what you're trying to do is align with the thing that you're interested in. And in this case, it feels like you did a really good job of that, which is like, hey, search is a really important piece of the puzzle for anybody who's building a website, building a blog. And one of the best ways to kind of get on the job training of for that is to have a job within the world of search. So tell us what that job is. Like what, like what did you learn in that first year? And when you get into, you know, any type of agency, my guess is there's a lot of things where it's like, oh, my gosh, this is really cool. This is new information. And you also kind of realize, like, everybody's trying to figure it out. Like, there's some element of, like, you know, everybody out there. Whether you're the best agency in the world or somebody who's just new and starting, you're trying to figure out what's working. So in that first year, what did it look like and what were the things that you picked up as kind of little knowledge nuggets?

Yeah, it was really interesting because as you start out, you know, with most jobs, you are mostly shadowing a lot in the beginning, the first couple months, and just trying to learn how your company does everything and, you know, learn from your managers and the rest of your teammates. So it was a lot of just taking in a lot of information in the beginning and just trying to kind of navigate what SEO is and kind of catch up to where everyone else was at. And also on calls, just as clients are also learning about SEO. Because a lot of new companies and just different. Different people in marketing don't always get that SEO knowledge. I know even in college and my marketing role, in my. My marketing classes, I didn't even really learn too much about SEO at all. So, you know, it's kind of like the first time I was hearing about that. And so just really learning alongside clients, alongside my team. Starting out with keyword research, a lot of SEO basics with even just heading styles and making sure you have one H1 followed by H2s, by H3s. It's surprising how many people don't even know that going into creating a website or a blog and headings are just all over the place and, you know, just different website platforms have been able to work in Webflow and WordPress and custom platforms. And it's been really fun to see just all these different websites and different industries, from cryptocurrency to telehealth and even more. So.

Yeah.

To learn even about all these different industries as well.

Yeah, it's interesting. You know, it's like you talk about a crypto company that's building on webflow and like, suddenly that's a very different equation, a very different outcome that they're looking for, and also like a different strategy. And my guess is like, that it's fun in that it represents something that's kind of new and unique compared to in our world. It's like it's. You kind of have a similar playbook, which is like, you have recipes you're trying to rank for those recipes and you're trying to figure out what's competitive, what's not, but also trying to figure out like you want to create inspired content, not just like optimize for the sake of optimizing. But were there things like, let's say, tools like getting into it, as you started to learn, what were the tools that immediately surfaced as, hey, these are tools that agencies are using because oftentimes agencies have the reps, you know, they work with 10 clients, 20 clients, multiple clients. And so they're looking to use the tools and refine their processes in a way that are most effective. Were there any that in, in that first year that you're or just recently even that you were able to pick up and say like, oh, this is a helpful tool if you have the budget to use something that is going to really help inform your SEO experience.

So of course we use all the basics that, you know, many food bloggers are also going to be taking advantage of like analytics and Google Search Console. We use Semrush internally for keyword research. So I'm the most comfortable with SEMrush. I know a lot of other people use other keyword research tools, but I find that one to be, you know, pretty easy to use now that I'm used to it. There's a lot of info in there, but very helpful to kind of do competitive research and really drill down and get really granular with the keywords. And then just recently a friend actually told me about a free plugin you can get that I think is very helpful for SEO. And it's called the Detailed Chrome plugin, something like that, Detailed SEO and really helpful. So I use that now and I shared that with my team.

Awesome. Yeah. Detailed.com we're actually having Glenn on the podcast, I think later on. Glenn Allsopp, who's like the creator of that plugin for anybody who's not familiar, if you go to detailed.com, he does these great write ups on search engine optimization and he focuses on usually public companies and he kind of talks through their like playbook and he'll do it based on quarters oftentimes. So like his most recent one as of this recording was March 27th and it's called detailed Q3 analyzing the SEO playbook of digital Goliath in depth every quarter. And you know, he just goes and talks through like it's these really long posts and it's like, hey, here's the companies that you know that point number two, business news brand Fortune.com is currently averaging 46.8 million monthly page views, 25% year over year growth. And like, talks about some of that information. So for anybody who's interested, be a great one to check out. And he's coming up on the podcast too. So what did that look like for you? You know, one of the things that I think about is like, I have a friend who's a painter and he often talks about, like, last thing he wants to do when he gets home is like, paint. Whereas people would be like, wait, you're a paint? Like, isn't it easy for you? And then you have the most colorful house in the world. But what was it like to navigate the world of working at an agency and then nights and weekends, maybe doing some of that same work for your own site?

It's really hard. Yeah, really difficult because I will sit in my computer and I work from home and, you know, you're doing all of this work for different clients, helping move their site forward and grow their website, grow their traffic. And so you're doing a lot of the same activities that you would be doing for your own site. Site. So I sometimes will be, you know, wanting to do other things and just bake or do the photography side and kind of. I'll put off some of that computer work.

Yeah.

For a little later because I just need a break from my screen sometimes. And that's where I think outsourcing could be really helpful. I'm still looking for someone to help out actually right now with just some social media and Pinterest types of tasks and maybe a VA or something like that, because I need a little break from doing the same things I do for work, sometimes for myself, but still good that I have the knowledge to, to still do it if I, if I want to.

Yeah, it's. There's. There's something about, you know, we all collectively probably have versions of this where you have the knowledge base, you have the ability to do a thing, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you are drawn to do that thing or want to do that thing. Like, you know, everybody listening to this podcast, if they wanted to, could probably get really good at books, right. Like, could understand accounting, could get really into the details of like Excel spreadsheets and the numbers for your business. But that doesn't necessarily mean that's what inspires us and why we do what we do. And I think one of the things that we need to talk about is like, work that isn't necessarily work to just like, increase the bottom line or get more traffic. But work because it's something that you enjoy. And for you talking about this idea of, of really enjoying baking, like there's, we talk about this all the time, there's all sorts of different income. And like one of the types of income that you can get from taking a weekend to like bake and document that with photography, if you enjoy doing that is like inspiration income or like restoration income. Like it's good work to do because it's something that you enjoy as opposed to like the slog. And I think that everybody listening can relate to that. And sometimes you need to have the slog, you have to work through it. But other times it's like it's okay to just name it what it is, which is like something I enjoy doing and I'm going to do it because I enjoy it. So what has that been like for you? Knowing that My guess is you've seen companies that you've worked with or you've, you've been able to kind of do this X ray vision into another site and see like, oh, they're experiencing a lot of this growth and saying like, hey, I can see, I can see that. I can know what that playbook looks like. But also to be strategic around saying I'm going to show up in a way where I can continue to enjoy this and not get burnt out. And what have you done when you have come up against those seasons of burnout?

Yeah, burnout is very real. It's happened several times because like you mentioned, sometimes you just need to push through and just still keep your head down and do the work. And so that means I'm doing my full time job during the day and then on the weekends or evenings I'm doing that same type of computer work for my website. And so I'll go through seasons of that where I am really posting a lot more recipes or doing a lot of the keyword research and content planning or trying to get backlinks in those Facebook groups and things like that. Other times I find that I really need to manage stress and find ways to kind of take a step aside from the site. And whether it's just spending more time outside or just really trying to prioritize ways to deal stress and, you know, step away for a little bit and then come back whenever I'm feeling recharged, I think is really helpful. Whenever you're experiencing burnout or just a little bit of stress with trying to balance that full time job with a side hustle. And that's what I've been doing recently. So I think that's been helping a lot. And it's kind of getting me inspired again to jump back in and start creating more content and also kind of redefining my content strategy to be, you know, if I have less time to, you know, put toward my site, I want to make sure that the recipes I'm making and all of the things that I'm doing are really moving the needle. So trying to really focus in on that.

Yeah, that's great. What, you know, when. And I think so much of what we do is like, how do we continually show up over a long period of time. We talk about that and a significant part of that is figuring out when you are coming up against your limit and making sure. Like I think of it in the context of a car and if you're running the RPMs in the red, you know, there's like the little dial. I don't know a lot about cars, but like the. If you're running the engine too hot and you just keep it there, like eventually the engine's gonna fall apart. I don't know mechanically what happens. But like it's. If you run it too hot for too long, it's gonna stop working. And I think like when I think about what we do, we are knowledge workers. So we have our mind and we have our body. And like, those are the conduits for like us to do work in the world. And we need to do whatever we can to like preserve and fine tune those our body and our mind because that's what's going to be the main tool. Like we talk about tools like, you know, Semrush or Ahrefs or Google Search Console or Google Analytics. Really like the best tool is our mind and it's our body. And how do we treat that? Really well, because it's the most important tool that we have. And I think your point about understanding when you are coming up against burnout or where you are feeling like you have those seasons of stress to be aware of it, not because it's self indulgent, but because you want to treat this tool well that you have, which is your mind and your body and to be really intentional with that. So I think it's really important point and I think that, you know, we, everybody to some degree experiences it. I think if you are doing what we're doing long enough, but not everybody talks about it. What does that look like for you specifically? Like, can you give examples of when you came up against that and decisions that you made to combat that.

So I would say leaning into outsourcing and also coaching has been really helpful for me. So whenever I'm kind of in a confused state of, you know, where's my site going? It's been two years. Like, what is the point of all of this? I'm not on mediavine yet. What should I be doing? Should I do, you know, social media or should I focus on SEO or now AI? And then you're like Pinterest, so you're all over the place and just leaning into getting advice from others and, and, you know, talking to other food bloggers, getting some help when you need it. I think it's been really crucial to kind of maintain my site and just keep moving forward and not just giving up. So highly recommend doing that. I have a close friend that's a food blogger and we'll bounce ideas off of each other a lot and send voice memos and, you know, chat through different ideas we have and see what's worthwhile. I've had a couple coaching calls with some people I met through Instagram that are food bloggers as well. That has been helpful. I switched to the feast theme last year right around this time, and I really love the way my site functions now and how it looks, and that's been really great, you know, and, yeah, so I don't know. Outsourcing is exciting also. Outsourcing photography too.

That's great. What have you. What have been the main takeaways or things that you've learned in those coaching calls?

Calls, I would say. Well, I've done two different coaching calls. One was more for pitching, and that was with Candace Ward. And I was kind of in the early stages of trying to work with brands and wanted to kind of fine tune that process a little bit more. So she was really helpful, kind of building up that confidence and giving me some tips on just how to communicate with brands and how to find the right brands. I would recommend looking into a coaching call with her. And then I also worked with Kayla, I think Kayla Burton from Broken Oven Baking, and she also is food blog coach on Instagram. And she was really helpful in getting my site moved over to the right, you know, hosting and, and theme. And she has just so much knowledge even in SEO as well. And she has these free emails that you can subscribe to that I highly recommend people sign up for. She just sends out all these really helpful tips and those have been awesome to see. She's on it with all of the new changes that are happening. In the food blog world and those have been really helpful.

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Sure. Yeah. I would say that some of the most successful companies that I've worked with are very just focused and driven with their site. They are very stay true to their vision and their mission. They know where they want to be even if they're not quite sure how to get there. And just a lot of energy and excitement as well around, you know, publishing content and being very consistent has helped drive a lot of that growth. One thing that is interesting that kind of surprised me early on was looking at, you know, whenever you're doing keyword research and you're looking at the search volume, you're looking at the competition and you know, sometimes clients can be kind of uninterested in very low volume types of phrases. However, I have seen some really big success in conversions with low volume topics that are easier to rank for, much quick, quicker and you know, you might think it says, you know, only 50 people are searching this a month, but you're getting 200 conversions from that one topic. So very interesting to see kind of doing a balance of those higher volume topics that are maybe more competitive and it's going to take a little longer to rank on page one versus those low competition and low search volume keywords where you actually might get just as many, if not more, you know, success topic and conversions from.

That's great. And you know, one of the things that's in our world that's a consideration is like, you know, you hear 200 visits and it's like, oh man, I'm trying to get to a hundred thousand or fifty thousand, like whatever it is. And so you think oh, incrementally, what does that actually mean? What does that result in? But I think one thing that we can all be thinking about and consider is like, you know, monetization via ads is one thing. I think it's important and a really good consideration. But there's also different. Like, you know, in the example of a cryptocurrency, maybe if it's an exchange, cryptocurrency exchange and they sign up one new user out of every thousand visits and that new user is worth, you know, a hundred dollars a year. Maybe like suddenly the metrics around a visit look very different. Where in our world maybe a Visit is worth 5 cents, but you know, in the world of somebody who has a product, maybe that looks very different. And so for all of us, I think it's one of the things that we can think about. You know, even we've had conversations with people who talk about email as a really important consideration. And, you know, whether it's substack or memberful, like who's a sponsor of the podcast, like talking about these ways that you can create a product and that product can be something that you can sell, suddenly that creates justification for going after lower volume keywords. As long as it aligns with the thing that you're selling because of those hundred or 200 people, maybe one of those converts and you make $50 or $100, like. So I think it's important to think about kind of the, the conversion of people as well and not just to think of it like from a traffic standpoint of like this many visitors equals this many dollars, but it's also hard to do. So is there anything that you've learned within that world just around like, strategy and what people are selling or for the most part, do they already come knowing? My guess is they already come knowing what they're going to sell and they're just looking to increase traffic via search to sell more of that thing.

Most of the time, yeah. I would say most clients know, you know, what they want to provide, what's. Whether it's a service or a product. On an occasion there's, you know, some early startups that are still kind of figuring things out and things are changing real time. And so we'll help kind of guide that process with the data and just let them know what we think is a good, you know, direction to move in. And then, you know, a lot of time people are coming in, they're focusing a lot on paid search and they want to move away from, from that because you kind of get stuck there. And now you're only able to get, get paying customers through paid. Yeah, right, exactly. So they are really interested in, you know, organic traffic and getting customers that way. And so we'll focus on really building that up and trying to balance the scales there with Organic to paid?

Yeah, it's one of the things that it's like when you are so used to the world of organic search, you don't even really think about paid search. But for so many companies, it's a huge kind of component of what they are thinking about is how do you get people to your site? Well, we could do organic search, but that's going to take a while. Let's just like pay for it. And the great thing about it is if you figure out a way, if you have a product and the product costs $50 and you can pay $40 on average for a conversion, that's like a positive return on that ad spend. And so you can just kind of do that all day long. And it's a great way to build a business. It's through paid advertising. It's like we know a lot of businesses that, that do that, but it's harder to do that. It's much harder to have some type of like arbitrage on paid if what you're doing is or, you know, advertising revenue because you start to crunch the numbers. It's like, well, it's going to be like we could pay like $0.03 to get somebody over, but that doesn't really equate in the same way. So let's say somebody's coming to you and they say, hey, you're in the world of search. I'm starting from scratch. You have seen a lot of the tools that work. Some of the tools that, you know, maybe don't work and they want to build kind of their stack like they want to build their, the tools that they can use and the, and the strategies that they can implement. What would your advice be to somebody who's kind of coming in without any experience?

So we'll do a full audit of someone's site right up front and just kind of see if there's anything going on under the surface that we need to address. And there's some education that takes place as well, kind of getting people familiar with SEO and what the purpose of it is and why it's important. A lot of people just don't really understand why it matters. And so there is that education piece that, you know, is, is nice to go over early on, really just following SEO basics I think is a great place to start because a of people are just, are not there yet. So really just with the heading structure understanding, you should have headings on blogs and it shouldn't just be a bunch of paragraph text, adding alt text to images and optimizing the images, adding, you know, sizes and dimensions to those. Just all of the good stuff that I feel like a lot of food bloggers are actually very good at.

Pretty good at.

Yeah, yeah. Where like, if you're someone just starting a company, you're more with the idea of the company or, you know, the marketing and, and less of the nitty gritty website stuff. So I feel that food bloggers probably have a really good grasp of the SEO basics, best practices, and we have so many awesome resources with, you know, this podcast, other podcasts, and, you know, food blog coaches and things like that that I think people can learn a lot.

How about backlinks? Like you had mentioned that kind of as an important consideration. There's all different ways that you can get backlinks. Everything from like kind of Black Hattie type stuff to just trying to create good content, hoping people link to it. Any thoughts around that or strategies that you've seen work? Well for people who are trying to build a, you know, build up their backlinks.

So from personal experience, I've been growing my domain authority. I just checked earlier and I believe it's around 32 now. So very happy with that since I really am still working on getting backlinks and still growing it and site is still fairly young, but I just utilize the Facebook groups that other food bloggers are looking for, you know, links to include in roundup posts. And I was really surprised at how well that works. I'll get a report from Semrush that will let me know whenever I get new backlinks and whether they're from, you know, trusted sites and trusted domains. And I'll see the. The website straight from the food blog groups listed there. And it's pretty. It always makes me excited to see those whenever they actually go live versus just dropping a link because you never know if you'll be selected. But it really does work and it has been the main way of grown my domain authority. So for other food bloggers, that's a great way to go. I have tried to do a little bit of PR and just reach out to local magazines or just online magazines and sites that are featuring entrepreneurs. And I've had a couple placements like that, so that's also helpful.

I remember super early on we reached out to like our hometown newspaper. We're like, hey, we're doing a thing like, do you want to do an article on us? They're like, sure. They sent a reporter down and interviewed us. And it's like, you know, the article was like, it Wasn't a great article. I remember throughout the entire article they used our first name and last name. Anytime they referenced us, it was like, bjork Ostrom thinks that. And then Lindsay Ostrom is just like, oh man, is such a obvious, like small town newspaper article. But nonetheless, it's like, you know, you have a link and then you can build on that. And had a friend, Jason, this was way back, he had talked about this strategy and he has a site called 100 Days of Real Food. And he talked about kind of in the early stages for them, they would start with a small newspaper and then from that article they would use that as a reference for like the next step up. So maybe there was like, you know, the smallest state newspaper. So for us, maybe we'd get something in, you know, the County News Review. And then we'd go to the Pioneer Press and say, hey, would you be interested in doing this? And then from Pioneer Press we'd go to Star Tribune and say, hey, here's an article in Star Pioneer Press. And kind of building up based on the articles that you have that were a little bit easier to get. But all of it's like, it's work. Like it takes a lot of work or help a reporter out. Harrow Haro, like all of that is, it works, but it is work as well to get it done. But over time, cumulatively, what can happen is you can, like you said, build up those backlinks and whether it be through the groups where people are doing roundups or hustling to get mentions in articles and stuff like that. So that's great. Anything else? Like, if you were to go back, let's say you were to sit down with yourself in 2021 when you're just kind of getting started and have these big career changes coming up, it's one of the questions that I like to ask is kind of final kind of consideration or a thought. If you were to look back and say, say, hey, here's the advice I would give to myself starting out, what would that be?

I would have wanted to start out on a better theme right away. I wasn't sure because I have so many hobbies and just things that I'm interested in. I start new things all the time and I never know if it's really gonna stick. So I should have just went with the, you know, better theme right away because I wasn't passing Core Web Vitals. My theme was really clunky. I tried to put it all together myself and I had no idea what I was doing. And I probably wasted just so much time trying to even get it ready to have a website that the feast theme was just so much easier and there was so much documentation on how to make sure everything was correct where this other theme I had didn't have anything like that. So I wish I just would have done that early on because it was something that did stick. And even if it didn't, I would have not regretted, you know, starting it the right way because it was just a lot more work having to go back and change everything later and kind of remember how to do all of that all again. So that's probably the biggest thing because that would have saved me a lot of time and I would have just kind of been at a great starting point early on.

That's awesome. Great Marlee, super fun to talk to you about your journey, the things that you've learned along the way. And my guess is people would want to connect with you and and follow along with what you're up to. Where can people follow along like social media platform that you'd prefer and we'll include those in the show notes as well.

Well yeah, you can find me at Baked Abundance on Instagram. My website is bakedabundance.com and those are probably the two best places to find me.

Cool. Thanks Marley for coming on. Really appreciate it.

Thank you so much.

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