How To Find The Best Places To Live In The World For Wealth Growth And Protection With Bobby Casey

Welcome to the Next level income show where it's our goal to raise your income, your investments and your life to the next level. I'm your host, Chris Larsen. You can get a free copy of our book@nextlevelincome.com just click on the book link. You are not going to want to miss today's show with Bobby Casey of Global Wealth Protection. Bobby's going to talk about the best countries in the world to live for asset protection, for taxes, what countries handled Covid situation the best and where you want to live. If you're looking to increase your after tax income and your quality of life. On today's show we have Bobby Casey. Bobby is the managing director of Global Wealth Protection. He has helped many entrepreneurs to minimize taxes, protect assets and most importantly, open the doors to a digital nomad lifestyle. Bobby, welcome to the show.

Hey Chris, thanks for having me.

Absolutely. Hey, I'm surprised I got you in one place in North Carolina here. So we're actually in the same state for this recording because you've been all over the world, even during the pandemic, which I'd love to have you share more with the audience about that. But before we do, I guess tell our audience a little bit more about yourself, Bobby, as well as your company Global Wealth Protection and really what you do.

Okay. About myself, I like long walks on the beach, you know, kind of thing. Seriously. No, I'm a lifelong entrepreneur. I'm 40. Wait, seven. Yeah. Seven years old. I haven't, I've actually never had a professional job. The last any job I had, I was 19 years old. So of course I didn't have a professional job when I was 18, 19 years old. I've always had my own businesses. I've started various businesses over the years. And really what got me in the field I'm in now and I'll get into that in a second. But basically what got me what I'm in now is actually growing up as the son and grandson of an entrepreneur. My grandpa and my uncle had a chain of restaurants when I was actually before I was born and he retired actually before I was born. And then my dad had a construction company and a real estate development company. You know, all through my, actually my whole life until he sold out, he sold the business some, I don't know, probably 20, 25 years ago. And so growing up in that entrepreneurial household, for me it was never kind of a thing to go get that corporate job. It was never even like a mindset that I had that that's what needs to happen. And so to some extent I'm fortunate I didn't have that. I mean, I think about people that like go that path and get the, you know, go through the education and get the corporate and all that stuff. And I think like, imagine like, I think about those people that get making 100, 150 or $200,000 a year in their 30s. They're like, you know what? I'm going to walk away from this. And I think that must be exceptionally difficult for somebody in that position.

I did it. And I'll tell you what, not to cut you off here, I'll let you pick back up, but I'll tell you when you do that. In my case, it was 18 years of being a professional in the medical device industry. I got to the number, I got to the financial piece, the passive income that I needed to get to my CPA looked at me, he's like, what are you waiting for? You don't need to do this anymore. But it had become such a part of me and I had such anxiety to walk away. I took a trip down the Grand Canyon three years ago and my biggest source of anxiety wasn't, hey, you might die in the river, Chris, in the canyon, in the middle of nowhere. It was, what are you going to do if you can't check your email? It's really crazy what it does to your brain.

Yeah, well, I have the email too, but still, and I think those people like you, that must be incredibly difficult thing, walk away from that career. Like I said, I never had that because I never went in that path. And so I don't really understand what that feels. I was actually talking to my youngest son about this the other day. I've never had a steady paycheck ever, like ever my whole life. And so it's a completely different way of thinking about things. And so for me it was just growing up as an entrepreneur. My dad was also a trained. So our normal dinner time conversations when I'm 12 years old are about tax planning, company structure and tax minimization and optimization topics. Super exciting when you're 12. Right.

I'll tell you what, he's always invited over to my house for dinner.

Well, so going through my entrepreneurial career, had a few different businesses, but in my late 20s, I got to the point where I thought I need to do something different from a financial standpoint. I need to do a bit more tax planning and asset protection planning. I had a decent size company that was doing upper seven figures, close to eight figures. And then I had some bunch of real estate I had. I actually owned a restaurant at one point in my 20s, late 20s. And I thought I got to do something so ended up hiring somebody like me back then to do what I do for people now with asset protection and planning and street planning for their business and taxes and stuff. And that's actually what got me started on that path is the guy that I met who actually is still a mentor mine to this day. We still talk every couple of months, sometimes we collaborate on a client project or something. But at that point in my life all my friends were entrepreneurs. I didn't really have friends that had normal corporate jobs. Everyone I knew and hung out with had their own business. And so that's just how my network evolved and, and so I started doing some consulting at that point for helping them kind of optimize their own situation. And it kind of grew. So that's been like 20 years ago and it kind of grew progressively from there. And then I ended up selling a few different businesses and then I sold business in 2007 or eight, I forget 2007 or eight I sold a business and I thought what do I really want to do? And I thought, you know, I really love dealing with entrepreneurs. I love the freedom of location independence and I love the clients that I'm working with. I've got a bit of money, I don't really need to like grind for a paycheck every week. And so that's when I kind of officially started doing what I'm doing now. And this is really what I've been doing since like, well unofficially since wait years but officially since about 2008, this is what I've been doing. And so what we do now is like my tagline is tax and residency planning for location independent entrepreneurs. We help people internationalize their business, their wealth and their life. And you know, it's tax planning a lot of it's you know, optimizing company structure and how to, you know, a lot of it's multi jurisdictional planning as well. Like right before our call here I just, I was on the phone. Look like this is just an example of my everyday. I had a Turkish guy living in Canada with a business partner who is a Turkish guy living in Singapore and they're software developers developing video games and we discussed on how and where to structure their business to optimize it for tax planning and asset protection. A very normal conversation I have like every day, that type of thing. And those things get complicated. Those things get really complicated. Right. You know Like I've got a German client with a huge E commerce business selling primarily in the American markets and he lives in Thailand, you know, so those things get complicated. So that's basically what I do now.

Yeah, well. And I think I want to dive more into that. You know, the pandemic, it's been really interesting. So my wife and I have a short term rental Airbnb that we run and we've had some people here recently, they come through and like, hey, we can work from wherever. We're going to live here for a week or two and kind of explore the Asheville area. So we've seen the rise of the Digital Nomad over the past year and it seems like the pandemic has really opened people's eyes. If somebody's listening today and really doesn't know what a digital Nomad is. Bobby, can you share more about that? And it seems like you're like one of the original Digital Nomads.

I've been location independent really my whole life. Even when I had an office. Even when I had an office years ago. I mean, actually technically I have two offices now. I've got one in Arizona and one in the Caribbean. But you know, I don't think I've been to the one in the Caribbean in three or four years. One in Arizona I've been to once this year. So I don't really go to the office. But before, like I used to have an office, like 20 employees physically. And the joke was when I showed up, like the receptionist would say like, hi, how may I help you? Because I had an office at home. And my dad would always call me because at one point my dad was my cfo. When he retired, he became my cfo and dad would call me, are you going to work today? And I'm like, dad, I'm working. I'm at home working. Yeah, but you can't work when you're at home. You weren't here at the office at 7:30. And that was always the thing with him, a bit old school that you've got to be in the suit and tie at your desk by 8am that sort of thing. But Nomad thing I personally think started about 15 years ago when Skype was created. Because I remember my first trip to Russia back in it was about 2005 or 6 or something like 2005 or 6. I came home and my cell phone bill was like two grand and I only had a few phones.

I remember that when it was, yeah, it was ridiculous, you know, so stupid.

Money, like 10 bucks a minute or something like that for, you know, home. And my phone bill's like two grand. But then Skype started and people like it just dramatically opened up the world for small business people. And free, like if you're a big company, it's not a big deal. You make a 30 minute phone call to Europe or Asia. But if you're a freelancer and you've got a client, like let's say you're, you do video editing, freelancing for marketing stuff for people and you've got clients in Asia, what are you going to do? You're going to have your phone calls with at 10 bucks a minute. Skype to me opened up the world. It was kind of the catalyst that opened up the world for global, cheap, free or cheap communication. And so I think it really started about then. And then I also think Tim Ferriss book Four Hour Work Week. Yeah, Four Hour Work Week was a big catalyst for a lot of people.

Oh yeah, that was, I mean, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, Four Hour Workweek. And these are books that I read. And I was like, oh yeah, it kind of puts that imprint in your brain and it really, you know, being in sales, you know, I was, you know, it's a very entrepreneurial endeavor and I didn't want to be tied down to where I wanted to live. But yeah, I mean, it's amazing. I remember my first Skype call with my son. I was in Colorado, a cycling event. I was like, this is amazing. You know, here's a year old and I'm looking at him on the camera.

But so now, but that type of stuff that opened up the world for, you know, small business people, freelancers or small entrepreneurs, solopreneurs that actually have clients all over the world. And it also opened it up that like the work week. He talked a lot about kind of do your job remotely and kind of go live your best life in Bali or something. Right. But that was very difficult prior to Skype. And so a lot of things have since then. So now you've got digital nomads, a pretty broad term. I mean, can be anywhere from what we call the coconut cowboys, the young guys that make $700 a month and decide they want to go live a really cheap life and just party all the time. And they can do that sort of stuff like in cheap places in Thailand and Vietnam and other parts of South Asia. But that still falls under the digital nomad category. You've got freelancers, you got solopreneurs, you've got people run really Big businesses that just have built, you know, remote teams. You got people that have remote jobs now. My God. I think was it like a month ago General Motors announced all their office workers are fully remote. They sent 30,000 people home. When you've got some of the huge stalwarts of industry sending all their office people home, like clearly remote work trend, right?

Oh yeah. What's interesting is Apple, I don't know if you saw this here, might have been this morning, but Tim Cook said, hey, you got to come back in the office three. I think it's like three days a week. And the Apple employees revolted against him.

I wouldn't surprise me.

They said, no, no, you can't make us do this. So it's going to be interesting. One of the other interesting things I've seen here, Bobby, love to get your thoughts on this. I've seen a business where you can go live on a cruise ship if you're, you know, you know, as you said, digital nomads kind of.

World Cruise.

Yeah. Is that what it's called?

World Cruise? Yeah.

Yeah. You know, tell us more about that.

There was a guy down in Panama who parked the ship, but he got shut, actually.

Oh, okay. I think that's the story I read.

That's the one you read. Probably he actually bought a ship or was working on buying a ship and they were parking it in the port in Panama City and it was not going to move. It was going to be parked and people could buy their cabins or multiple cabins and live actually got shut down. I've talked to that guy. He got shut down because insurance, he couldn't find an insurance company that would insure the project because they didn't know what to do with it. It's like housing, but on the. There's an engine there, but the boat's not going anywhere. And so they had. They knew how to insure a boat that's traveling. They knew how to insure a house, but they don't know how to insure a boat that doesn't move. Right. So how about that? Yeah, that one got shut down. But there is World Cruise, like people live on cruise ships, 12 month cruises, you actually buy your cabin or you can rent it also and you can get on and off wherever the ship, you know, docks at a port. So like you could get off the boat in Barcelona and decide, okay, I'm gonna stay in Barcelona for a month. And then let's say the next port is, I don't know, somewhere in Asia. You get on a plane and Fly to that port and then you get back on the boat again.

Yeah, that's pretty, that's pretty wild. Yeah. I mean, as our kids get a little bit older here, they'll be graduating in the next decade. I'm starting to talk to my wife about some of these different concepts and it's interesting to think about what's possible.

I did a cruise about a year and a half ago called Nomads. So it's a cruise just for digital nomads. It was a two week cruise that went from Barcelona to Barcelona, Spain to Recife in Brazil. So it was a one way cruise for about two weeks. I did that. It was a pretty cool event. Johannes is the guy who runs that thing and I did a keynote presentation on the cruise for this type of stuff for the tax and residency planning. And it was a great, great event. It was super fun. Of course they killed it shortly after that, but Johannes said they're relaunching it. I think January or February 2022, they're going to do another one.

Awesome.

So that'd be kind of fun if you're interested. And it's a cool event with cool people.

Yeah.

So that's a nice thing. But digital Nomads is definitely a growing trend that technology has made available to us. And I joke, we actually wrote an article about this last year on our blog and I got so much heat for this, but I loved it. Basically I said Covid was the best thing to happen for humanity. Because basically what happened during COVID is from a worker perspective, everyone, I mean, got sent home or not, but a lot of people got sent home. If you were able to work remotely, they did it. Right. And so what happened then is it exposed people to the idea that why am I commuting an hour to work every day? Why am I even doing that?

Yeah.

And things like this commute two hours every day. Like this wasted time sitting in the car. Why would I not just work from home and then take a long lunch break, lunch with my kids, or go to the gym and exercise or maybe cut my work time down a little bit and have a side hustle where I make some extra money? And they realize actually working from home, a lot of people realized that 8 hour workday really only has about 4 hours of work in it.

That's right. And I think that we probably have three to four hours of concentrated mental energy every day anyway. And that seems to be, I mean, it's all these studies that come out. It seems to be that, I mean, my wife And I, we get up at 5 o', clock, we work for a couple hours, get the kids going, doing their thing. They work for a little bit more work out. And I mean, we're as productive as we want to be. And it's, you know, certainly, you know, this is an equal one study here, but it certainly works in our case. So, you know, I agree. It's like people have seen the light, right? It's like, what am I doing? Why, why am I living in the Northeast? I have a coaching client, he lives in New York and he's, he's taking, he's taking a promotion with a different company and it's 100%, 100% virtual, so he can work wherever he wants. And he's talking about moving to the Carolinas. He's like, why would I live in a high tax state with this crappy weather when I can live in a low tax state with great weather? Live at the beach.

I'll take it a step further. Why not?

I want to hear it.

Take it a step and go live on the beach in Mexico where the cost of living is a third what it is in North Carolina with a very high quality. And essentially you can make, well, depend on your tax situation and how you earn your income. But you can make at least $150,000 tax free living in Mexico.

$150,000 tax free. So Mexico, as an American, I'm speaking.

About American convention, the guy from New York. So basically, if you're an American citizen and you live abroad and you meet the requirements for the foreign earned income exclusion, you get about 110,000 in tax free income plus about 40,000 in a housing. So about 150,000 you can earn tax free. There's other things you can do if you make more, but it's really simple to do the foreign income exclusion and earn about 150 tax free. So I would say for your coaching client, I would skip all the way past North Carolina and go to Mexico.

Just keep flying. I love it.

Keep going, Keep going.

Yeah. All right, so we're going to get into the nitty gritty here a little bit, Bobby. I think that's a good transition. So Mexico, what are some other countries around the world that are favorites of yours right now as far as, if you're an American, Most of our listeners are in America. We have some in Canada, a couple international that pop up. But if you're listening, what are some of your favorite countries around the world to check out right now?

It's tough right now because you got so many countries with so many Covid restrictions. It makes. It makes it complicated.

Got it. Okay, so wait. Kind of push those aside a little bit.

Well, so like for example, what I'm saying, in the west hemisphere, you know, the Americas, if you go south of the U.S. the only two countries I would consider living in outside of the Caribbean, I'm excluding the Caribbean here, but outside of the Caribbean, the only two countries I consider living in are Mexico and Brazil. Because their behavior during this Covid situation, most of those countries has been atrocious. Like Panama, for example. You can only go outside for months and months. You could only go outside for two hours a day, two days a week, four hours a week. You can physically be outside of your home.

Like, so I'm going to stay inside where Covid transmission rates are sky high, basically exclusively indoors. Yeah. That's insane.

Yeah. I mean, don't worry. The US is not immune from stupidity too. Right. Last year, they closed the national parks. My wife and I did an RV trip last year for a few weeks in the states. And ironically, almost all of your states had their state parks open. But federally, the national parks were closed because apparently Covid only appears on federal owned property, not state property. Right. Because what's better than sitting inside and breathing Covid air, I guess, than going outside and going hiking in a national.

Oh, there's so many idiotic things that occurred. Yeah. Our kids went back to school, but not on Wednesdays. I guess that's the only day Covid got transmitted.

Well, Covid Wednesdays are hard.

It's just. It's a bad day. It's hump day.

Yeah, Covid's bad after like 11pm too, apparently, because a lot of have that 11pm curfew now. So Covid gets terrible.

Well, I think we could spend a whole show panning the responses to Covid here, especially in retrospect and.

Absolutely.

But I think you make a great point. I think, like, again to your point, you know, Covid really shed light on the way countries, the way businesses. Weaknesses. Absolutely. Weaknesses. You look at schools now. I was reading an article here this past week. School attendance in the county is down 1500 students. And the county is now concerned about getting funds, federal funds for schooling. And my first thought was, where do those students go? And my belief is that a lot of them went to private schools that stayed open and took different approaches to this situation. So it's interesting to see the way these behaviors have occurred. So Mexico, Brazil and South America.

That's it. South of the US Excluding Caribbean, I would only consider Mexico and Brazil, because every other country had unbelievably ridiculous. Different in different ways. But those are the only two that had a type of semblance of rationality in their. In their. In their behavior. Their response to Covid like ma was terrible. Like, a lot of people, especially Dandel nomads, they talk about Colombia. I love Colombia. You know, Medellin's great. I mean, I've lived in Medellin. I used to have property there. And, you know, Bogota is a cool city, but, my God, Colombia's response Covid was unbelievable. Curfews. If you had a job, you had to have a permit to go to that job. And not only a permit to go to the job, but a permit on how you got to the job.

Wow.

Like, actually, the path you took to get there, like. And if you strayed off your path, you could get fined or whatever. I mean, just some craziness. So this side, I would like. Some parts of the US have been reasonable, some parts not. So some parts of the US could be okay.

Yes. I'll take the handcuffs off. Yeah. What are your favorite places in the country with respect to responses and future as far as you look at, say, the next 20 years.

In the US?

In the US yeah.

Well, I mean, I think the clear trend is getting away from big cities, so Louisiana, New York. I mean, New York's a ghost town now.

It's insane. Yeah.

So any of your big cities. I would avoid countryside. There are places, believe it or not, like Arkansas, I think is really interesting. It's very rural, but they've got a lot of nice, beautiful nature, mountains. It's really nice. If you don't mind the dry heat. I think Arizona is a great option because their beer was quite good. Now, Arizona, or, sorry, Arkansas. I'll rewind. I think some of their beer was pretty stupid. However its countryside is. And so the people in the countryside didn't actually care or listen.

Right, right.

They just lived their lives however they wanted anyway. But the regulators in Arkansas don't think we're very intelligent about how they reacted.

But how about Montana? We spent quite a bit of time out in Montana here over the past few years.

Yeah, Montana's cool. It's very remote, of course. Like, if you're happy being very remote and away from everything, I think good. And you can get some ridiculously cheap property. Yeah. Also. Yeah. Florida. I mean, Florida, I think one of the better states on their reaction, their behavior. You know, Texas was okay. Not amazing. Texas was okay. North Carolina, I would say, depending on where you are in North Carolina, like where I'm at right now, Greensboro, people were idiots. People are idiots here. But then. So I think Asheville was probably much better than the Greensboro area. I think Asheville did reasonably well. I was in Asheville, actually. One of our RV trips in the past year, we spent some time in Asheville.

Yeah. Yeah.

So I don't know. Yeah. If it was. If it were me and I was gonna live in the States, which I'm not interested in. But if I were, I would pick something, you know, work wise, just make sure you have a location, independent source, you've got good Internet. And then pick something, you know, with a decent sized piece of land. I mean, no need to go a thousand acre ranch in Wyoming or anything like that, but a couple acres of land maybe and kind of have your own space and kind of. You want.

Yeah, I love that.

My reaction to it, I hear you loud and clear. All right, I'll just tell you real quick though. We're talking about countries, Europe, I would say, for the most part, at least in the European Union, the EU part of Europe, I would probably just stay away. Their reactions and behavior has been crazy. Now, the non EU part of Europe, like Albania, Montenegro, Croatia, well, Croatia is technically eu, but not Schengen zone. Bulgaria, which is also eu. Schengen, basically in that kind of Balkan area of Europe, I think they did. They were pretty good. I think they did a good job overall, especially comparatively to, let's say the Schengen part of Europe. You know what I mean by Shang.

Go ahead and define it for the audience, please. That'd be great.

Well, so in Europe you have what you call Europe, which is the whole. Yeah. Which, you know, like, technically, even like the UK is part of Europe, for example, but now it's not in the EU and it's not in the shame zone. So these are treaties, actually. So there are 27 countries in the EU, but there's only 19 that are in the Schengen Zone. So, for example, Croatia is in the eu, Bulgaria is in the eu, but they're not in the Schengen zone. Most of the silly restrictions were Schengen Zone. So there are 19 countries and this is pretty much all of your Western Europe, the Baltic States, that. That kind of area.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's a travel treaty, basically.

Yeah, I hear you loud and clear. So, Bobby, Global Wealth Protection, you talked a little bit about why you founded it, kind of how you led there, the path that led you there. So let's talk more about what you do. So I'm an entrepreneur, I reach out to you, I say, hey Bobby, I'm mobile. I do this, I have a business, I have some assets. Walk us through what your company does, how you help entrepreneurs, how you help individuals and what you do specifically.

Yeah, so like we have a membership program, GWP Insiders where members can join and then we have a lot of content in there about different internationalization strategies, tax planning, trust, trust, like using offshore trust and private interest foundations, company structure, how to optimize structures. We have information in there about second passport, second residencies, second citizenship, foreign real estate, some crypto related stuff in there. And so it's a content, it's a membership program with content. But big thing for the membership is my members get 30 minute consultations where we can actually go one on one and dig into your situation because everybody's situation is completely different. And then also they get discounts on our other services like company formation, trust administration. We do one big event a year and then one mastermind a year so they have the opportunity to join us if they want to participate in those events.

Are those live or virtual?

Live. We don't do virtual events.

Awesome, awesome. Where are your events gonna be this year?

So we just did our big event in Puerto Vallarta in February. Our Mastermind event coming up in Playa del Carmen, Mexico. It's the end of August. I think we have a couple of seats left. I got a bunch of people that say they want to come, but they're not pulling the trigger on it. So at this moment we still have a couple of seats left. Mastermind in our Mastermind small, it's only 20 people max. 20. And it is a very, it's a five day event. Hands on. It's very. No, we, there's no like prepared presentations. We come and the Mastermind kind of develops based on the. The attendees there.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I think it's fantastic. I've done masterminds like. Well, one of our friends, Craig Ballantyne, I loved how he kind of customizes it to the attendees. It's just wonderful when you do it.

That way, the way we do ours. Basically it's over the course of four days, technically six days. But you have to the day before and leave the day after. So it's four days in the middle. But during the four days I'm very, very, very active about developing bonds and relationships with people. And so I'll explain this. Who are the people that you have your best relationships with. They're not the people that you just have a beer after work with once in a while. They're the people that you have a bonding moment with. Like you have you went skydiving with or you had a crazy motorcycle trip with or you down the Grand Canyon.

We got, my buddies and I, three years later. Yeah, we still text each other, still talk about every day.

Absolutely. And that's the kind of thing what we do is half our day is a mastermind and half our day are adventure excursions.

Love it, Love it.

So yeah, we do like doing one thing. We're swimming with whale sharks. This is one of our excursions we're doing. So we super cool. We don't only sit around talking about business all the time. Like we're also developing lifetime relationships. We've been doing this for like 15 years. Not the mastermind part, but the event, the bigger event we've been doing for about 15 years. But basically that kind of hands on. To get back to your original question, hands on, what do we do? It depends on each person's situation. You might come to me and say, I got a location, independent business and my goal is anonymity. I, you know, maybe you sell CBD products and so you want anonymity with your, your business. You don't want people connect. So you know, we can restructure your business to kind of take your name off of everything. Maybe you come to me and say, look like erman, I'm a German guy with a E commerce business in North America and I live in whatever I said before, Thailand. I think I optimize that. Do I pay tax In Germany, the U.S. thailand, how do I structure that? And so we come up with the strategy, a multi jurisdictional approach, normally to figure that stuff out.

As the world becomes globalized, the freedom increases. And also you see kind of confiscatory. I think I'm saying that right. Tax rates in some of these areas, the service you provide is tremendously valuable. So you mentioned Global wealth insiders. Your website's globalwealthprotection.com and I know you got a free training. So if people want to, want to get that, what's the best way to check that out? Get a hold of you, learn more about what you do. Bobby.

Yeah. Globalwealthprotection.com We've got a bunch of videos on there, a bunch of, bunch of blogs and stuff like that.

And I will tell you, Bobby's been very entertaining today. But I've listened to several of his blogs, read or read some of his blogs, listen to some of his podcasts that he's been on. And if you enjoy what you heard Today, check out globalwealthprotection.com get his free training and also listen to some of his other interviews because he is a wealth of information but also highly entertaining if you ask me. And Bobby, I really appreciate you joining us today.

If you think that's entertaining, you should send me a friend request on Facebook. This is like my hobby. My hobby is antagonistic posts and memes on Facebook. It's just kind of an emotional mental release.

You got it. So you mentioned earlier you were quite successful in your late 20s. Bobby, if you go back to your 25 year old self and give yourself a piece of advice, what would it be?

If I was going to give my 25 year old self a piece of advice? Keep an open mind and don't accept what handed to you or given to you as information. Don't accept it as status quo. Just always question, always think for yourself, always keep an open mind. And I bring that up, that really is advice I would give my 25 year old self because in my 20s I think I was pretty minded and I just had some stupid ideas and some stupid thoughts and I look back now and I'm like, you are an idiot. Like a lot of us as we get older, right? When you're 20 you think you're the smartest thing in the world, right? And that 15 year old self was an idiot, right? And then when you're 30 the 20 year old self was an idiot, but the 30 year old self is a genius.

Brilliant. Yeah.

The only thing I can say in my 40s I realized that my 30 year old or 25 year old was an idiot. But I also realized my 47 year old self is very often an idiot.

I love it actually.

This is my open mindedness, right? This is my open mindedness coming into play that I'm thinking like a 25 year old self was dumb. But you know what, I'm pretty dumb now too sometimes.

You know what, I think it's great and I think it also allows you to have a little more fun with life, take yourself less seriously. I gave my boy always that same advice here recently. I said listen guys, don't trust the government, don't trust your teachers, don't trust the news. We were kind of talking about something that was on the news that was coming out there and even the Tom Brady Deflategate, my son. I was like hey, where'd you hear that? From. We were talking about that. Whether you like Tom Brady or not like Tom Brady, I don't care. But I told him, I said, even me, son, don't trust me, but figure it out for yourself and do that. So I love that advice, Bobby.

I told my the same thing. The number one thing I could teach my kids is to don't is to question everything, even me question everything.

That's right. I love it. I love it. Well, I'm going to leave it at that because I think that's phenomenal. And I look forward to having more conversations with you, Bobby. Again. Globalwealthprotection.com we'll have all the links up on the show notes here today. And you can check Bobby Casey out. Globalwealthprotection.com thanks for having me, Chris.

Take care.

Thank you, sir.