The Story of Nehemiah - Pt. 1 | Ep. 2

Well, Chip, can you, uh, tell me about Nehemiah?

Boy, talk about going straight for the throat.

Well, I figured I should get better at asking good, straightforward questions, so All right.

What do you want to know about Nehemiah?

Well, you mentioned that he's one of the most— let me read the quote which you said.

No, you actually copied that?

Well, wrote it down. Well, I just looked at my text message. So, yeah, good. You said that he's one of the most phenomenal studies in leadership. Team Building, Organization, Organizational Excellence, and Practical Faith, just to name a few. So I don't know where the best place to start is, but what do you know about him yourself at the moment?

No matter what that is, it's fine. I just— where are we starting with on you?

With me, not much, because I read it like 6 years ago and I don't really remember the story very well, so I just knew that he's an important character in the Bible.

Yeah, kind of like some of them founding fathers. I know they're important, but I have no idea who they were.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to put it.

Um, well, God's word The Bible to a lot of people is a dusty old book, a boring old book, or at least a large part of it is, especially the Old Testament. And even though I studied it in my youth to be a missionary, which I was for 14 years, In all honesty, I found much of it to be boring too. All right, uh, there are sections of it that I've read once, and if I never have to go back through them again, it'd be okay. All right, um, 1 Chronicles 1 through 9, for the most part— what, what is that in there for? And so-and-so begat so-and-so, who begat so-and-so, who begat so-and-so. Are you serious? 9 chapters of it? Can you imagine being, uh, like David Suchet? It's a British actor. He did the, uh, Poirot, did a phenomenal job. Or, uh, any other famous person, and they say, we want to pay you so much money to read the Bible. Okay, yeah. I'll do that. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Okay, we're off to a good start. Then you get to 1 Chronicles, and so-and-so begot so-and-so begot— are you serious? You want me to read all of this? Take, take two. But then I had a college professor who made it come alive. Not because he read it with, you know, Elizabethan Shakespearean eloquence, but because he said, all right— and he was a Louisiana backwoods preacher guy, which really gave him street cred with us— he said, I can understand that. Seems like horseshit, don't it? Of course, you know, some of the, some of the, uh, more tender among us went He said, let me explain something to you. He said, do you know why it was written? No, sir. Well, the reason it was written is because the man that wrote it knew full well that at some point the children of Israel that had been in Babylon in exile for 70 years were going to go back to Israel. Do you get it? No, sir. Boy, y'all slow. Y'all slow. All right, here's what happened. You're gone for 70 years. Now, when they first came into the Promised Land, the Lord told them where to go. All right, the tribe of Dan was over here and the tribe of Benjamin was over here. Everybody had clear marked lanes and lines so you didn't have a bunch of fussing over, well, that's our mountain. No, it's not. It's our mountain. Well, that's our river. No, it's our river. There was none of that because God said you're going to be here, you're going to be here, you're going to be here. It cut down on fussing. That's smart. But now, wasn't your great-great-granddaddy was— but then people over there, they never saw you until they got to Babylon, and they don't know. So if you just turn everybody loose, kind of like they did in Oklahoma during the land rush in 1907, you had a lot of people getting shot over the same spring or, or creek or waterfall or, or whatever. Because it was just wide open.

Mm-hmm.

And God, in his wisdom, had a man gain the wisdom to say, I'm going to take the time and I'm going to go through all of you and I'm going to find out who your tribe is, who your daddy was, all that kind of stuff, so that when we go back, guess where you're going? You're not going— all right, let's say you go back. And you just settle. Oh, this— I like this. This is a nice place. Yeah, I think we'll stay here. And so-and-so does it over here, and so-and-so. And you get along for 20 years fine, and you build yourself a cobbler shop or, um, a blacksmith shop or whatever. And you're making money, you've got a good business, and your daughter's just about to marry old Shimmey Eye Hooba's son or whatever. And everything's good. And then along comes a stranger, kind of an old guy, and he wanders into the village one afternoon. He looks around and he says, my, y'all have done a good job. Yeah, yeah, you should have seen it when we got here, boy. The, uh, Nebuchadnezzar's crowd left it a mess, but we cleaned it up pretty good. Yeah, we're, we're doing good. Yeah, I bet you're making a good living too. Oh yeah, we're raking it in these days.

Yeah.

Say, um, by the way, uh, who's your daddy? Oh, Shimei. Shimei. Shimei. And who's your granddaddy? Uh, Ben-Hoden. Shimei, Ben-Hoden. So your great-granddaddy would have been a Lemelech. Yeah, how'd you know that? Because you're from the tribe of Asher, 20 miles that way. This is my land. What do you got going on now? He said, so you see all them boring parts in 1 Chronicles 1 through 9 and other places like that, there was a very good purpose and reason for it. Just like some of the parts of your body You know, they're not great big biceps or, or, uh, chins with, with the— I can't even do it. Cary Grant had one, but, uh, that's why I keep mine covered up. But they're very important, the job that they do. He said when you take a look at God's word that way, you can begin to gain more understanding of how much God knows how much God cares and how much God wants us to succeed. But there's a way to do it and do it right. And we were like, yes sir, we get it. No, we didn't, but we thought we did. And so when you get to Nehemiah— what is Nehemiah? Nehemiah is the last historical book in the Bible. Now, by that, what I mean is it is the last book in the Old Testament where it is not prophecies, it is not declarations of future events, it is simply a telling of factual historic events. And you say, okay, that That doesn't excite me yet. No, but it gives you a little bit more information if you ever have to play, uh, you know, Bible Monopoly or something like that. You'll, you'll have one answer, the rest of them don't. It happened 140 years after Nebuchadnezzar came and destroyed Jerusalem, and his armies killed most of the people. And then the ones that were left, they were either too poor, too uneducated to worry about, and they just left them there. All right. Or they were of such high breeding, i.e., royalty or, uh, of that type. And that is where Daniel, Meshach, Shadrach, Abednego, and others like them— they were from the royal family, or the— I can't think of the word not exactly kingly lineage, but way up there high. And they, as I've told you before, were strip naked. They were very good at breaking people down. All right, they want— they wanted— they wanted citizens in their empire that were not going to give them any trouble. And the only way you could do that in their mind was like the Marines do. It don't matter where you're from or anything else, when you go into the Marine Corps, they shave your head. Everybody looks as stupid as the other one. All right, well, that's what they did. They stripped them naked and they put ropes or chains around their neck and looped it to the one in front of them, to the one in front of them, and the one in front of them. And they marched them for 4 or 5 months from Jerusalem up and around to Babylon. It's been 140 years. They were there for 70 years in Babylon because God said, you're going to be here for 70 years, and then I'll— you know, hopefully you've learned your lesson and I'll bring you back. He kept his word. There's so many layers and textures to this. All right, like in the family of believers— and I'm using that term loosely, but there it is— those that consider themselves believers, if you're not all Baptist, you're going to hell. If you're not all Church of Christ, you're going to hell, and so on and so forth.. And then within them, if you don't all go to Oral Roberts University, you're not as— you're not as godly as us. Or if you don't go to Harding or Pepperdine or whatever your particular flavor is, and so on and so forth down the row, we separate ourselves and each other that if you're not like us, if you don't do what we do, If you're not— like, some of the remnant went back at the end of 70 years, all right, when the Medo-Persians came in and defeated Nebuchadnezzar's, uh, grant— or son or grandson, I can't remember now— and, uh, they said you guys can go back now. Not all of them did. So who was more holy, Tom? The ones that stayed in Babylon because they already built a pretty nice life there and all that kind of stuff, and it was a 900-mile, 3 to 4 month trip to get back to Jerusalem, and it was all broken down and, and rubble and, and nasty, and other people had moved in and didn't want them to come back anyway? Or were the people that made that 3 to 4 month march Who was more holy, Tom?

I don't know if I can say.

I mean, it seems like the people that went back, but see, that's the human nature. It's a wrong answer, but it's a human nature. How do you know it's the wrong answer? Because Daniel never went back. Who was more holy than Daniel? God never even said of Moses as many times as he said of Daniel, you are highly favored by God. Guess who else never went back in that initial group? Ezra's daddy, and then Ezra. Now Ezra did finally go back, the priest. So was he less holy than the ones that went back? No, no. Zerubbabel. All right, here's another part, and we are talking about Nehemiah, but it is my bend and my sin that I'm fixing to talk about. My sin is that Nehemiah's head and shoulders above Ezra, Zerubbabel, all the rest of them, because he went in there took names and kicked butt. All right, he got— he, he was the Donald Trump of his day. I'm not joking, he truly was the Donald. I'll, I'll prove it to you. And I, I've thought to myself over the years that Ezra was weak and, and Zerubbabel, you know, missed his calling and, and missed the, uh, the mark. Thankfully God didn't squash me like a, a bug for being Sodom. God— it says in the New Testament, for God has put all the parts in the body just as he saw fit. Another place it says to people like me, who are you to judge another man's servant? It's to his own master that he'll stand or fall, and he will stand because God is able to make him stand. In other words, stay in your lane. God gave Zerubbabel, the one that first came back and started and then finally finished the temple for the second time, all right, he gave him the heart and the personality that he did on purpose. If he needed everybody to be like Daniel he'd have built a billion Daniels. If he needed everybody to be like Nehemiah, he'd have built a billion Nehemiahs. But he didn't. So Zerubbabel goes back with a group of people. They are led by God. God told him to go back, and they were to build the— rebuild the temple, because everything had been torn down. When Nebuchadnezzar left, there wasn't much left above ground. It took them— what was it, 13 years to build the temple? Do you know why it took them 13 years to build the temple? Uh, not exactly, because when they got back, the first thing they built was their houses. Okay, I get that, you got to have a place to live, but they built houses, baby. With cedar plank, you know, uh, walls and, and ivory and all this kind of stuff. And God finally said, um, when is it not time to build the— my temple? Oh well, we had to get the houses done. You got your houses done a long time ago, so it's time to get on this temple and get it finished. And they finally did. They got the temple finished. They already had their houses done. Then that was at 70 years after Nebuchadnezzar did what he did. Then about 50 years later, here comes Ezra the priest. Temple needs priest. All right, now what they did in between time, I, I don't— I didn't study enough to tell you. All right, so I'm not going to make it up. By the way, telling the truth about what you know and what you don't know doesn't make you less profitable. It makes you more believable.

Yeah, that definitely agrees.

Somebody, somebody that thinks they have to have all the answers for everything for the Bible, go away. Just go away.

Yeah, how could you know?

Well, I could have if I, you know, knew that I was going to bring this point up, and then I'd have stated it and acted like I'd known it all along, which I didn't. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So they finally got the temple built, and then here comes Ezra several years after that with another group of people, okay? And they do the, uh, the daily sacrifices and all of that. So now they've got things rolling a little bit. It's a functioning religious system again. And then 13 or 15 years later, here's Nehemiah. We're finally getting to him. He's in Susa, the capital, and he is the cupbearer to the king. All right, Daniel was very high up. There was nobody higher than Daniel. The cupbearer to the king is not as high as what Daniel was for Nebuchadnezzar, all right, but he is the most trusted human being in that castle, that palace. Why? Because the king trusted him to be standing right here next to him all the time. Now, it is true he was kind of like a canary in the mineshaft, because if anybody wanted to poison the king, Nehemiah tasted it first, and if there was poison in it, he dropped dead. And the king's like, nah, get me another bottle, I don't want that one. That is true. But if he didn't trust Nehemiah, he wouldn't let him be that close to him physically. All right, so he's the cupbearer to the king. Pretty cushy job, not a lot of heavy lifting. All right, he doesn't go out to go out and, you know, cut granite blocks in the quarry or, or haul grain on his back or bend over with a little sickle and, and cut the stocks and that kind of stuff. All he had to do was sit in that air-conditioned place and make sure the king had good wine. And the Bible says that around December— now they didn't call it December in, in their day, but that's what it was, late November, early December— that some people had come up from Jerusalem. People were traveling back and forth. Why? Because there were still family back and forth. And he says, one of my brothers came to me and I said, hey, how are things back in Jerusalem? Number one, Nehemiah had never been to Jerusalem. He was born and raised in Susa. Keep in mind, we're talking 140 years. From the time Nebuchadnezzar did what he did. And yet 140 years later, what is Nehemiah in his heart and in his mind? His homeland.

Huh? Well, his ancestral homeland, which makes him a, uh, well, a Jew.

A Jew, an Israelite.

Yeah, yeah.

And he says, how's things back home? And his brother says, oh, it's terrible. The people are despondent. The walls are still broken down 140 years later. Now they've built the temple finally, and they built their houses But the rubble of the broken-down wall is still there, and anybody can come in and leave and do whatever they want to, anytime, day or night, any day of the week. And the Bible says that when he heard this, he said, I sat down and cried. You've never been there. You got a cushy job. You're the cupbearer for the king. Just— well, I feel for him. That's, that's too bad. No, he took it to heart. And the reason that Nehemiah is so important to study, whether you are a Christian or not— you want to be a good leader in business, you want to be a good leader in government, you want to be a good leader, period. You cannot study too many people in or out of the Bible. Now, our Lord and Savior is always the best, and that's a fact, but one that you can actually reach out and say, I might be able to do most of what that guy did, would be Nehemiah. And you'd be hard-pressed to do half of what he did. Cupbearer of the king. By the way, do you know what that probably makes him?

Uh, no, no, no, not really.

Okay, while the king trusted him to be right next to him all the time, he was going to take precautions. What does that mean?

Um, I guess just like personal safety.

I know, but what does that mean he did to Nehemiah? More than likely—

I'm not sure what you're looking for.

Sorry. No, that's all right. These are some of the things though that people don't think about that make the Bible more real and make it more in-depth for us. Probably had him gelded. Gilded?

Gelded. Gelded.

What's that? Well, when you cut a horse that you don't want to be a fire-breathing stallion anymore, what does he become?

Oh, oh, I see.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, that's too bad. You think? Well, I don't know.

I'm going to show you that he had more stones than most men that think they're the most virile thing on Earth. He had more class, more stones, more integrity, more courage, more brains than most guys that think they're just the hottest thing on Earth. My point, that's not always what's necessary to be a man's man. All right, what is necessary is character, integrity, and courage, and he had those in spades. So It's too big to, to go into all tonight. It's just, it's too involved. So let me take you to the end of everything, and then we'll kind of wrap it up. And if you want, we'll continue, and I'll break it down for you chapter by chapter, bit by bit, what he brought to the table in leadership. I will tell you this: his primary tool, his main weapon for everything that he did. Everything was prayer. When he found out about this from his brother, he sat down and he wept. And then the next thing he did was he spent 4 months, 4 whole months, praying to God. What was he praying? Well, you find out by what he did at the end of that 4 months. This was late November, early December. Around April, he couldn't hide it from the king anymore, and the king looked at him and noticed that his face wasn't as, you know, happy and all that kind of stuff. And he goes, uh, you, you don't look too happy there, bud. Um, Is my wine okay? Now, that's not what he said, but that's the danger that he could have been in. Sure. If he'd heard a secret like, hey, we're going to spike his wine and kill him and blah blah, and you're trying to hide it from him and you can't, well, the king's going to notice. He's going to notice everything you— every facial expression, every move you make. And he goes, this can only be sadness of heart. What's going on? Nehemiah had already been praying for 4 months, day in and day out. And when the king said, what's going on? Nehemiah says, and I prayed to the Lord. Well, you'd already been praying for 4 months. Yep, there's always, there's always room and time for one more. And he laid it out for him. One of the key elements of true leadership is Preparation. Because when he did tell him what was going on, he didn't just go, oh, my people are in trouble and I am so sad and I don't know what to do, and, and you got a lot of money, King, could you, could you help us out? That's not at all what he did. He did say, my people back home are in bad shape, and it breaks my heart. And the king says, what do you want me to do about it? And the Bible says, and I said a prayer to God again. And then he lays it out. I want you to let me go. Let me go handle this. And I'm going to need this and this and this and this and this and this and this. And the king said, well, how long are you going to be gone? And he says, I gave him a time. What are you saying about all that? The man had sat down and prepared everything. It's going to take me 3 to 4 months to get down there, and I'm going to need— and we'll go over it next week— but he laid out, I'm going to need letters to the keeper of the forest, because I'm going to need wood and I'm going to need stone and I'm going to need this and I'm going to need that. Oh, and while you're at it, uh, I'm gonna need all the wood and stone and all that stuff for my residence while I'm there. He's the cupbearer to the king, not his first son. Yeah, but he knows exactly how long he needs to be gone. He knows exactly what it's going to take. And the Bible says, and it pleased the king to do this, and he also sent soldiers, and he also sent— so God provided even more than he'd asked for because he'd prepared. He prepared himself by talking to God. This is breaking my heart. I'm feeling the burden to do something about it. I'm 1,000 miles away in Susa. I'm not a stonemason. I'm a cupbearer to a king. But you can do anything, Father. And since you put this burden on me, I need you to work this out. But we need to get this done. And God's like, I've been waiting on somebody like you, just like Tim Tebow. You know, his life was, was all aimed at being a pro football player. The devil and his people kind of knocked that down. Then it was to be a pro baseball player. The devil and his people kind of knocked that down. And what is he now? He's one of the strongest, best voices for the downtrodden, not just for the night to shine where the, you know, the innocents with Down syndrome and, and other things like that get an opportunity to walk the red carpet and wear a crown and all of that. And but for trafficked children and trafficked women and trafficked men, I mean, he's, he's going for it because God put the burden on his heart. So let me just wrap this one up today by saying this: a cupbearer to a king 1,000 miles away who had never seen his homeland before feels a burden when he hears a report that things are not really good back home. How many of us would have said, well, piss on them? There's 25,000, 30,000 people down there. They've been there for 70 years, some of them. Can't they fix that wall? If they don't care any more about it than that, piss on them. And I'd have been in that camp sometimes. Why didn't Ezra do something about it? I mean, he's a— he's the, uh, priest of God.

I don't know.

He gets down there, he handles up on business. The wall around Jerusalem, which was broken down and the rubble was everywhere, was somewhere between 1.2 and 2.5 miles in circumference, somewhere between 6.5 and 9 feet wide. And somewhere between 25 and 40 feet tall. Okay, it's a big wall, not a weekend DIY thing, okay? And that's if, if you've got skid steers and, and, you know, everything else, telehandlers and all of that. The people that had lived there for 70 years couldn't get the job done And he got there with those people, not a whole new army of people, with those people that had been there for 70 years and hadn't got the job done. And in 52 days, it was done. Wow. 52 days.

Holy smokes.

He took people that had been there for 70 years, hadn't gotten it done, and And in 52 days, they got it built.

That's a world record.

Now how's that for leadership?

Exceptional.

Beyond exceptional. Oh, and the neighboring people, because they weren't all Jews— Samballat and Tobiah, the head of this, uh, area of Samaria and the Egyptian and blah blah blah. They didn't want them to succeed. They didn't want them to build that wall. They liked it the way it was. They liked being the bullies of the neighborhood. And every time they walked by going, and the people went, oh, we're sorry, we're sorry. Yeah, you better stay scared. And here comes this cupbearer to the king, this gilded lion of Judah, and he says Y'all better back the hell up because you got no part in this, and we're building this wall. And in 52 days, they did. And if you want to know how they did it, then come back next week because it is a study in leadership that is— it's simple, it's deep, it's unfathomable. But doable.

I can't wait to hear it. It's got me pretty interested. Just, it's quite a cliffhanger.

Well, I'll just tell you this much, that the last two chapters of Nehemiah are as boring as 1 Chronicles 1 through 9.

Probably pretty important.

It is. If you were one of the ones that helped build the Apollo 11 capsule, or you were the grandson of somebody who actually helped build it, design it, or whatever, would it not be important to you to see their name? Oh yeah. My grandfather helped build that. God knows we're dust, and while he knows that we won't last very long down here, there are things that matter to us down here, and he's not against helping us fill those cups with good things.

That's a beautiful thought.

Yeah, he's mindful of us, always. And if he wasn't patient with us, I wouldn't be here.

Same.

Yeah. Nehemiah showed— I mean, he— if you— once we go through this, if you want to continue— oh yeah, you will— you'll be able to say, you know what, that's a lot of what Donald Trump does. That's a lot of the way Donald Trump does it. Uh, are you equating Donald Trump with the great Nehemiah? No, no, that's not what I'm doing. But where the similarities are, I ain't afraid to show them. Mhm.

Yeah, there's patterns in all the great heroes.

There are.

Well, I'm looking forward to the next episode. That'll be good.

Well, um, I'm thinking that the— we may actually get into the word a little bit I'm not afraid of it. I love it. I'm very proud of God's word. It is the reason that I'm not dead and there's not a lot of other people dead around me. I try to tell it in a storyized way a lot of times because I was one of those that, eh, I don't want to hear it, eh, I don't need that, don't open that thing. But if you tell the story of it, wait a minute, That ain't in there. Sure it is. Where? I'm gonna have to open it. All right, smarty, go ahead and open it and show me. Uh, but there's so much in there, in that dusty old book. In the Old Testament part of it, there are absolute diamonds and gold and good things, and you don't have to dig very far.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you could honestly— well, a lot of people have written books over just one chapter. Well, sure, and those books.

Yeah, yeah. But, um, the reason he doesn't get talked about as much as others is kind of beyond me, but it makes sense in another way. It's easy. We've got David, and we can tell you about David and Goliath, all right, and all that kind of stuff. We've got Abraham, we can tell you about Abraham and Isaac and, and all that kind of stuff. You get to Nehemiah, and he doesn't fit the mold. Kind of like Donald J. Trump. But how do you walk into a place that's been 70 years, 70 years with people walking around and cussing and kicking, and somebody ought to do something about this? Well, it's too— we're in too bad a shape, and you know, it doesn't matter anyway. And he comes in, and in 52 days they build it. What kind of leader is that? The kind I want to be, the kind I've worked on being, and the kind in small ways that God has allowed me to be for the teams that I've been fortunate enough to serve. Because I, I sure don't go at it the way that most people do. As a matter of fact, I'll end with this. You know, I was on that job out in Trinidad. We talked two or three times when I was out there. Yeah. And God gave the grace that that job finished up ahead of schedule, on budget, and won a national award for excellence in quality. And I was honored and humbled to receive a national award for the safety, because that was what I was. I was a safety consultant out there. And, you know, Mr. Green did a tremendous job. I mean, you can see it on my page. I've posted it a couple of times when, you know, letting people know I'm looking for a job. And I didn't do it the way— they'd had 5— no, 3, excuse me. They'd had 3 in 5 weeks. That's what it was. They'd had 3 safety consultants in 5 weeks, and the Army Corps of Engineers fired every one of them. Fired the last one, the head of the whole thing, uh, an old Marine. He walked on the site, took one look at him, and said, who's that? That's, that's our new safety guy. Oh, hell no, no, he's gone, he's gone, get rid of him, I don't like him already. I have no idea what was wrong with the guy. I didn't go at it the way anybody else did, and God gave the grace that it ended that good. All right, we were the safest project the Army Corps of Engineers had in that district anyway for the entirety of 2024. And God's given me the grace to do that over and over and over and over again down through the years. What am I saying? There's a company about 30 miles from where I live I'd be able to be home every day, and I'm never home. And they have gone on an acquisition spree, and they now have 16 companies. They've been buying up little companies that have something to do with what they do. I'm not going to go into too much detail, don't want to give them away. And they have No safety standards. There is no standardized protocols and procedures. Their EMR is going up, up, up. Earned Mod Rate. It's a— it's an insurance company's way of determining how good or bad a risk you are. And they're spread out all over the country. And they called me and said, hey, we heard about you. You need to come talk to us and we need help. I said, okay. So I get there, and to make it short, basically they said, here's where we're at, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and we don't have this and we don't have that. We don't know what we're doing with this. They know how to do what they do, but they don't know how to get 16 different companies with 16 different, uh, presidents and, and top managers and stuff all seeing kumbaya on the same fire. They said, how would you do that? I proceeded to tell him the same way I did it for the Army Corps of Engineers, the same way I've done it for everybody else I've served. After a month, they finally got back to the recruiter and they said, while Mr. Green shows a, you know, a phenomenal understanding of safety principles and blah blah blah in the profession, I, I don't know that he'd be a good fit with us culturally. He's direct and he's this and he's that. He's, he's actually confident. They said that? Yes, yes, yes. Um, and so I got back to the recruiter and I said, well, obviously I'm not what they're looking for, but neither are the results. Do I need a job? Sure I do, Tom. I'm on my 5th month without one. I'm going through my savings. But would I do them any good at all if I were to, you know, put on some act of being different from what I am or less than what I am? Not at all. And then get in there and then have to be who and what I am to actually get the job done? Nope. No, neither was Nehemiah. And that's all I've got.

This cliff keeps getting bigger and bigger. For the hangover. What? This cliff keeps getting taller and taller, I guess. That's good.

Um, When we take a look at it, you'll see that everything that he did made perfect sense, but nobody done it before.

Hmm. Ah, yeah, that's definitely ringing bells with Donald Trump.

Well, I mean You've got people like Simon Sinek, all right?

You know, I do, yeah.

TEDx talk, and okay, he don't care me. He makes sense to me. He's soft. He's—

you're bickering up pretty bad, Chip.

To quit anyway. All right, my friend, we will talk to you again soon.

All righty. It was a pleasure as always, Chip.

Hey, when's the next— when's the last one going to be up? I haven't seen it yet.

I'm hoping to get it up by tomorrow, so I need to set up the channel and everything.

But I'm not pushing. I'm just wondering.

Just— no, it's on my list of things. I, I got behind, so trying to get through it all.

No, you had a 10x event to go to.

I, I did. I had that. Made a lot of cool connections.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I am very thankful for our connection. You're a good young friend.

Likewise, Chip. I really appreciate it.

All right, my friend, have a great evening and a grand week.

You as well.

All right, bye-bye.