Why I Don't Like Form Shooting and Why We Don't Do It In Workouts

So I want to make a quick disclaimer before I get into this video because I know that it's a very polarizing topic. First of all, this is not aimed at players who are beginners, players who are younger, who you know are developing shooters, or players who are bad shooters in general, regardless of the level. This is not aimed towards them. For them, they may need something completely different. Right? Basketball and basketball training is a science, but it's also an art. And part of that art is being able to adapt with what you're doing based on who's in front of you and what level they're at. So for players who aren't great shooters or who are younger, developing, this isn't necessarily tailored towards them. This is much more in reference to players who are good shooters. So high school players, college players, who are good shooters. And then the question becomes, well, what qualifies me as a good shooter? I don't subscribe to the belief that, oh, you know, if you're a good shooter, then you're making 70% of your threes and workouts or whatever number you want to throw out. Because again, if you've watched my videos before, then you know that if you're training the right way, a way that incites challenge and actually forces you to get better, that you're not going to be making 70% of your threes and workouts. Like, you're just not going to be doing that. So when I refer to a good shooter, a few things you can use to kind of gauge, like whether or not you're there. First of all, if you've had multiple games in your career that you've made multiple threes or multiple games, you've made three, four, five, six plus threes in a game. If you've done that multiple times, you're probably a good shooter. If you are confident in your shooting ability, if you expect to make shots, right? If you believe that you're a good shooter, you probably are a good shooter. And then really, even simpler than that, if your coaches or your teammates believe you're a good shooter, they have confidence in you. They expect you to make shots. If your coach is drawing plays up for you to get shots, if your teammates are encouraging you to shoot the basketball, you're probably a good shooter. So those are all things you can use to kind of gauge whether or not you're a good shooter. But that's who I'm referencing. That's who I'm. I'm really focusing on in this video, right? So I actually got the, the idea to make this video. This morning I was on YouTube and this video popped up and it was of this basketball trainer, was a smaller YouTube channel. And this guy was kind of talking about like, oh, you know, players will always come in the gym and they just, first thing do is start shooting threes. And, and they think that they can just, you know, shoot shots like Steph Curry, just be Steph Curry. And the reason that they're not great is because they don't spend the time doing the boring work and, you know, shooting the ball three feet from the rim and getting up all their shots and all that sort of stuff where he essentially was saying, like, the first thing you do when you walk in the gym every single time should be form shooting, because that's how you become a great shooter. That was the essential premise. Then he went through a workout that was a couple hundred made shots of just form shooting. And I wanted to make this video because I actually completely disagree with that sentiment. And I know that's, that's kind of a, again, a polarizing thing to say because the big thing has always been form shooting. Form shooting, form shooting and form shooting is the most important thing when it comes to becoming a great shooter. But when you actually look at the science of it, again, I already mentioned basketball training is a science and an art. So we can't throw away experiences, we can't throw away building confidence. That's the art part of it. But there is an entire science aspect of that that we have to look at. And this whole, the whole craze and obsession with form shooting, to me completely goes against what the science says when it comes to becoming better at a motor skill, in this case becoming better at shooting. And I want to dive into why that is and some effective ways that again, if you're a good shooter, you can actually progress as a shooter. And some ways that actually I think we can adjust form shooting to make it better. And so the first question that I would bring up is, does form shooting even relate to making shots, Making actual game shots, when you compare the two of them, especially in the way that a lot of, a lot of people do it. Like the video I was watching today, they're starting off with one arm form shooting, and then we're doing like two arm, like normal shooting, but we're actually starting off with one and bringing the guy hand up late. So it's just very like awkward and it's not what an actual shot is going to look like at all. And so I look at that and I'm like, how much does that actually apply to making game shots? And I would argue that in the vast majority of cases it doesn't really apply that much. And so we spend all this time saying, hey, you know, I'm, I'm shooting all these form shots. I don't think that a lot of that actually translates to becoming a better shooter. I think there's a lot of other explanations that go into that. It's funny because when I think about the best shooters that I'm around, all of them, at least all the ones I can think of, have some sort of form shooting routine. When they come in, like we'll have a workout, they'll come in before we get started, they're going to be overdoing their form shooting. Pretty much all of them have something that they do right? And so you look at that, you might say, well that's probably why they're great shooters, because they come in the gym and they, they get their form shooting in all that sort of stuff. I actually think that we can look at it a different way. So there's an analogy that I'll use right here. And you know, I don't know if you're into cars or not, but generally throughout the world of cars there's two manufacturers that are kind of viewed as like the holy grail of like reliability and just well made cars. And that's Honda and Toyota. And so like for me, I have a, I have a Honda. And so I was listening to a mechanic, he actually a shop owner who was talking about the whole Honda, Toyota, like, you know, why is it that they're so reliable? Are they that reliable? And he said really it's, it's two parts of it. Half of it is the fact that yes, Honda and Toyota, they do make great cars. They make very reliable cars. They're, they're good manufacturers. But the other half of it is the fact that generally people who own Hondas and Toyotas a lot of times are buying them because of the reliability and the fact that they're going to last a long time. So they take better care of them because that they're already thinking about how do I make this car last as long as, as I can. So they're going to take the time, they're going to do the maintenance on it, they're going to get the oil change, they're going to do the tune ups when they need to, they're going to replace the tires, they're going to do all the stuff that's needed to make sure. That car lasts as long as possible. And that's a big part of why these cars last a long time. Because half of it is it's a well made car and the other half of it is that the owner does a great job taking care of it. And if you took those owners and you put them in a different manufactured car, like a different brand, that car would probably last a lot longer than the other cars on average that are made by that same manufacturer, because that person takes better care of their cars. And so relating that back to shooting and basketball, you can look at great players having some sort of form shooting routine and say, well, that's why they're a great shooter. In reality, that person is the one who's spending the most time in the gym. More than likely they're getting the most shots up, they're the most obsessed with it and therefore that's why they're going to be a great shooter. It's because they do all the right things. So we can take away the, the point that says, oh, they get in and they do their phone shooting first, but what about the fact that they do everything right? You know, you could take somebody who treats their car horribly, put them in a Honda or Toyota and it might not last quite as long as, because they're not doing the right things. So when I look at the fact that a lot of the best shooters that I'm around, pretty much all of them have form shooting routines, you can look at that and say, well, they also are the players who are spending the most time in the gym and are the ones who are doing the most to be great shooters. Now we're going to dive back into that point in a second here. But form shooting is not going to lead to you making more in game shots, you making more game shots. It's not going to lead to that. Again, past a certain point, we're talking about beginners, we're talking about somebody who's new to shooting. Sure, anything you do is going to help you. But when you're a good shooter, a consistent in game shooter form of shooting is not making you any better. And what it will do though is it's going to provide you some sort of psychological momentum as you kind of move into your workout. Right. So all that psychological momentum is, is it's essentially just you getting yourself going. You seen the ball going, go in, you building a little bit of confidence that way and then you feel a little bit better as you start your workout. Think of it like when you wake up in the Morning, and you know, you're a little tired, you have no momentum yet, and it's a little hard to get out of bed. But you do get out of bed and you, you wake up and you go brush your teeth and then you go make your coffee and you go eat, and next thing you know, you're like ready to go. Because you built a little bit, a little bit of momentum just by doing small things. And, and that allows you to get into your day. That is a lot of times what can be a benefit of form of shooting is it just allows you to build a little bit of momentum, seeing the ball go in and that you can get into the rest of your workout and you have that momentum to kind of go with you. And we're going to talk about why we actually want to train without that sometimes, because that is very much applicable to games as well. But that's one reason why we might use form shooting to build that momentum, to build confidence by seeing the ball go, go into the rim. But not because it's going to make you a better shooter. It's not going to. Because we need challenge in order to become better at something. Okay, and we'll dive into that. Abilities are increased by challenge and error reps. So I say this all the time, and I already alluded to it. If you've watched my videos and, you know, you follow the things that I talk about, then you're not making 70% of your threes in workouts. You're struggling a little bit. You're in that Goldilocks zone where, you know, you're making anywhere from 30 to, you know, up upwards of 70% of your shots. And there's a lot of misses that are happening because you're going to take a drill that, okay, hey, I can go 8 for 10 here, and it's really, really easy. And I'm going to find a way to make it harder and challenge myself so that I find ways to raise my level in order to meet the new challenge that I'm getting. And when you can do that, when you raise your level to meet challenges, that's what. That's literally what improvement is, is by you doing that. And then all of a sudden you become so good at that, that, okay, now I'm back to making 8 out of 10 at this again. So how do I find another way to make it more difficult? And that's how you actually become better at a skill. And, and shooting is, is a really simple way, a really simple thing to kind of see that that work. In. So we need misses and we need those error reps in order to force our brain to improve. If we never miss shots, if there's no challenge, then there's nothing. Like, your brain doesn't have to move. Your brain is plastic, meaning it can change itself. But it's very, very difficult for your brain to do that, and it's only going to do that if it's forced to. So by doing your form shooting, where there's no challenge, there's no neuroplasticity that is. Is being affected at all by that because there's no challenge. So why would your brain adjust? Why would you become a better shooter? You may be more confident in that workout, and that may lead to better results, but your actual physical capacity to perform is not improving from that. So let's talk about my approach to shooting and developing shooting and why I think it's the superior way to do it. Again, when we're talking about good shooters. So a drill that I love doing is one that I've called the 8am AAU drill, and I'll put it on the screen here. But all that it is is the first thing that we're going to do when we walk in the gym is we going to pick four shots. And generally it's all going to be threes. So, for example, we might go off the catch and we'll go, okay, for the first drill we'll do, or the first shot we'll do, you know, relocating from wing to corner. Then we'll go from corner to wing, and then maybe we'll go pin down to the wing, and then maybe we'll go transition, and they've got to make three out of four shots on the right side. Then we're going to go left side, do the same thing. We can also add in, depending on, you know, who they are, what they do. We might add in some shots at the drill. Maybe. Maybe they go ball screen into a three. Maybe we go transition, pull up, maybe we go some sort of handoff. Just all depends on the day on what they. On what they want to do. And that's the first thing that we're going to do. We get in the gym. So we're not going to start ourselves in close and move ourselves back. No, we're going to go right in and make shots because that's what the game is about. And I think where this really applies is you look at, like the high school level, and most, most high school players think about a you, right? So the time of year when coaches are watching you right when you're, you have to go and you have to perform because coaches are coming to watch you play. And that's where they're doing the majority. They're recruiting. You're going to play a game and you're going to have two minutes to warm up, right? Your first game on Saturday might be at 10am and the game before you went into overtime and now all of a sudden you get a three minute warm up and there's two basketballs for your team of 10 people. You're not going to get to shoot 100 form shots. You're going to have to get your few reps to warm up and then you got to go out there and make shots because the coaches are here watching you now. So if you can't switch it on and make shots right away, if you need psychological momentum to get yourself going, then what's going to happen when you aren't afforded that opportunity? When you have to make shots right now without a warm up, what are you going to do? That's the case for a lot of players. That's why I call this drill the 8am AAU drill. Because we're simulating what it's like when you don't have a warm up and you have to get up and be able to make shots right away. Even when we talk about like school basketball, like I remember back to the days, like my varsity days, okay, so you might get to the venue at, you know, 5 o' clock, let's say, and your JV warm up is going to be at 5:30. So if you're a varsity player, you know, like you get yourself dressed, whatever, it's 5:15 you get out there, you might get 15 minutes to do form shooting or do whatever you want to do to warm up. Then the JVS are on at 5:30 for their warm up until 6 and then game goes till, you know, maybe you get JB halftime at 6:30, but there's two basketballs and there's 10 people. So you're not really getting many reps there. And then JB games over. Next thing you know it's varsity warmup. But again, three basketballs for, you know, 12, 15 people and you're doing a set warm up where you're not going to get a ton of reps up. Now we have starting lineups, we have the national anthem. Now it's 7:30. Your shooting, warm up. Your form shooting. You you did over two hours ago. And then you got to go in there and make shots. You got to be able to do it. So if you can't switch that on when you need to, if you need the psychological momentum to be good, how are you going to be a good shooter in those moments? Right? And it might get a little bit easier as you're older at the college level, at the, at the professional level, obviously, but to get to that point, you've got to be good enough that you don't need that, that momentum, you don't need that warmup. And so that's why that's, that's a drill that we do all the time. Almost never, if I'm working with a good shooter, we will almost never start inside of the three point line like we're, you got to go make shots. You got to be able to figure it out, you got to be able to do it. And that's the approach that I, a lot of, a lot of times take is that hard first approach right into the fire so that players are prepared to be able to do that when necessary. One of the big things that I see and I saw in the video that I was watching today, one of the big things that I hear is like, oh, you know, the reason why blank players such a great shooter is because every time they, you know, they do their form shooting, they do their routine, they're great behind the three point line because they put in all the work close to the basket and they always do that. And again, we're talking about somebody who's a developing shooter. 100% you're going to start closer than the three point line. Again, not who I'm referring to. When you're a great shooter, we look at Steph Curry, Steph Curry is a great shooter and he's, he's able to hit some of the crazy shots that he hits because he's, he's gone out there and done it. He works on those things, he works on making those difficult shots. He doesn't spend, you know, every day shooting 500 form shots. And then he goes out and he hits half court shots. That's not how it works. That it doesn't translate like that he goes back and he works on the, you know, the tough shots that he makes. You watch any of his, his like pre game stuff, like you'll see him like shooting shots from full court and shooting shots from the tunnel and like shooting shots from half court off of one foot. Like he's doing all this stuff that's challenging and again that's pre game that, that's when he's preparing to actually Play in an NBA game. Think about what he's doing in the off season when the cameras aren't there, when he doesn't have to perform that day, and what he's able to do and experiment with. I did a video a couple weeks ago reacting to one of his workouts at a Team USA practice. And you even see then the little things that he does to challenge himself where he's shooting with the seams. Then he's also working on shooting, you know, without the seams and so finding ways to challenge himself that way. He's working on shooting the ball from really far away. He's taking half court shots like in his workout, like that's a part of his workout, just shooting from half court. How many players do you know who do that? There's a reason why he's as great as he is, because he does stuff like that. And you would even see stuff where he's got to make different types of shots in a row, putting pressure on himself. A lot of variability when it comes to his spot up shooting. So he's prepared in games. No matter what type of shot comes at him, he can make it because he's able to be variable and adapt. And that's actually what I want to get into right now. So there is a Soviet scientist back in the early 1900s and, and his name was Nikolai Bernstein. And he was hired by the Soviet government to study and see what they could do to increase the output, increase the performance, the efficiency of the workers throughout the country. And so he did an experiment. He took a bunch of blacksmiths and he had some of them who were expert blacksmiths. They were the most efficient, they got things done the quickest, they did the best work. And then he compared them to the novices or the blacksmiths who weren't quite as good, who didn't, you know, weren't quite as efficient. And he just compared the way that they would swing their hammer to see, okay, what's the difference between the two. Now his initial hypothesis was pretty much what the common thought was, was, okay, hey, the expert blacksmiths are going to have the same exact technique every single time. The pattern is going to be the exact same. And the ones who are novices who aren't as good, they're not as good because they're not going to be able to repeat the same motion over and over again the way that the experts are. And that was his hypothesis going in. What he actually found was that the experts were, there were, there was way more variability from swing to swing. So they weren't swinging the same way every single time. There was little differences, but they were able to hit the same place on the nail or the same place on the target every single time because of the fact that they were experts. Right. So they were incredibly accurate with what they were doing. But the actual technique that they would use would change swing to swing. And he saw that what they would. What they're able to do is that they were able to actually compensate. So there'd be times where they would swing and maybe their shoulders would be a little bit off, but their elbows could compensate in order to make up for that. And so they were able to hit the same spot even with errors happening. And what he saw with the novices is that a lot of times their swings were much more like. They looked much more similar to each other, but they were not as accurate because when one thing would be off, they weren't able to adapt or adjust and fix it. So they were much less accurate when it came to hitting their target. And so this is actually from the book How We Learn to Move by Rob Gray. And I think this is something that should be like required reading for every basketball trainer. And again, when I watch videos of the one I watch a day, I can tell that a lot of trainers don't actually dive into the science of teaching movement, of learning, movement of skill acquisition. All this stuff is important. So kind of going with that, he says in the book, why did Bernstein's blacksmith swing the hammer slightly differently every time? Surely, if I want to produce the same outcome under the same conditions, the best strategy would be to repeat the same movement every time. Bernstein himself identified the flaw with his logic. The same in the middle. When we move, the conditions are never the same. Just ask tennis great Raphael Nadal. There's a quote right here says you might think that after millions and millions of balls I've hit, I'd have the basic shots of tennis show up that reliably hitting a true smooth, clean shot every time would be a piece of cake. But it isn't. Not just because every day you wake up feeling differently, but because every shot is different. Every single one. From the moment the ball is in motion, it comes at you from an infinite small number of angles and speeds with more topspin or backspin or flatter or higher. The differences might be minute, microscopic, but so are the variations your body makes. Shoulders, elbows, wrists, hips, ankles, knees in every shot. And there are so many other factors. The weather, the service, the rival. No ball arrives the same as another no shot is identical. This is an example of a problem that our motor system must solve, which Bernstein dubbed Context, condition, variability. All that means is that the movements that we make do not occur within a vacuum or, or they don't occur isolated from themselves. So when we take and put all this stock into form shooting, it's essentially training our shooting in a vacuum, saying, okay, in this perfect scenario, here's what's going to happen. But like we just heard right there, every single shot you're going to shoot in a game is a little bit different. Nothing is going to be identical. And the overall context or all the factors that might affect that shot are going to be different every single time. So what we have to look at is say, okay, hey, experts are able to adjust and adapt their shot and their technique and their form every single shot. Depending on what is necessary, they might be moving a little bit to the right and they have to be able to find a way to change their form a little bit to adjust for that fact. An expert can do that. They can, they can change their form every time. A beginner can't do that. A beginner, if they're leaning off to the right, they're going to miss the shot. An expert can adjust some sort of variable within their own shooting form and that's going to be able to make up for something that might be off for them. Okay, so when we look at what goes into being a great shooter, we have to train for this adaptability and form. Shooting doesn't do that. What actually does it is, is doing the thing we want to become better at making in game shots. And we've got to do that and then we've got to find ways to challenge ourselves. So I want to go through a workout right here, just give you an idea, an example of like what I mean by this and what I would actually do for you or a shooting workout. So like I said a lot of times, the first thing we're going to do is we're going to go with that ADM au drill. So we're going to pick four shots. They've got to make at least three out of four shots on a side. Then we'll flip sides, do the same thing again. Then right after that, for example, what we might do, we might do is we might go with something like this where we'll go with like hands behind the back, late cat shooting. And so she's just kind of walking back and forth with her hands behind her back and I'm going to toss her the ball at some Point and she's going to wait as long as possible to take her hands out and catch the basketball. So working on being able to make shots coming off of like a late catch or an unclean catch, just where you don't really get a great feel for the basketball before you shoot it. And so we'll do that from mid range and then eventually we'll back up. We'll go from the three point line. So we'll go from usually like wing, top wing, something like that. Next thing we might do is we will go back turned and we'll go to a go call. So she's just going to kind of move like back and forth here with her back facing me. At some point I'm going to give her a go call. She's going to turn, identify the basketball, identify the rim, and then just shoot as quick as she can. So really adding challenge because she doesn't have any of that perceptual information of, okay, where's the basket, how close am I, where's the basketball at? And she has to figure all that out and process it very, very quickly. And that's really challenging. Again, her disability to perceive and her ability to, to register information quickly. And so great way to challenge that as well. Next thing we'll do is back forward shooting, but in this case she's going to start with the basketball. So she's just kind of switching up what her feet look like. And eventually I'm going to give her a go call. And when she hears go, her feet are glued to the floor and she has to shoot from wherever they're at. Okay, this is a drill that looks kind of crazy, but when you look at your footwork throughout a game and throughout different shots, a lot of times your feet are going to look different. They're not going to be perfect every time. Again, can one variable, variable be off and you still be able to make the shot? That's what experts are able to do and that's what we're training right here. Then we might go with off the dribble threes where again, she's just kind of mixing up the dribbles that she's using and the way that her feet are. And then again, as soon as she gets that go call, she's going right up into it. So similar idea right there. This is the idea of repetition without repetition, where we're getting up a lot of shots, but each shot is a little bit different, a little bit variable, much like it will be in a game. So this is the best Way for us to be able to use repetitions to actually see that turn into work. That translates into game results. Now what you'll also see is that we don't even shoot like normal free throws. Like between each of these drills, we're not just shooting free throws. We'll go, made free throw, made three. So she's got to make a. She's got to make a free throw and then make a three in a row. And that counts as one set. And we'll typically do two or three sets of that. So even there, we're forcing ourselves to adapt and be able to again, like reperceive the shot every single time, as opposed to being able to stand at the free throw line and shoot five free throws. And, you know, by the time you shot your second one, you can pretty much go into autopilot and you don't have to make any sort of adjustments right here. And that's why we do that. Now the next thing we might go with is double bounce shooting right here. So she's going to bounce the basketball up in the air and then she's going to wait for that second bounce. And as soon as that happens, she's going to sprint and go get the basketball and shoot as quickly as you can. So we're working on getting into shots coming off of movement now, adding a little bit more challenge. Again, kind of like what I talked about. Can you still make shots when your momentum is taking you to the right side or to the left side? Can you find ways to adjust and be able to make that shot? And again, we're working on repetition with a repetition because we're changing our spot every single time and we're changing our direction too. So every shot's a little bit different. The, the distance of her tosses might be a little bit different. The height of the bounce might be a little bit different. And that translates to game results and being one of mix shots in games. And then this will make it even more challenging. She might have to make two shots in a row and then she has to make a just a normal spot up, catch and shoot three. So she has to make three shots in a row in order to get a set. And maybe she'll have to do three or four sets of that. Okay, so there's again a lot of ways to add challenge to what we're doing. And then usually what we'll do at the end of a workout is we'll actually get into more of just like straight up reps where it's not quite as challenging. But again, we talked about psychological momentum, building confidence. This is where she gets to see the ball go through the net over and over and over again and leave the gym feeling good. Because we built that momentum. We, we built that confidence because you've seen the ball go through the rim, but we've already done all that work that's been challenging to her. So that's where we actually were able to increase her ability to perform. Notice there's no form shooting in there because for someone at this level, mind you, this girl at the time, she's a senior in high school, she's her school's all time leading three point shooter. Form shooting is not helping her. That's not doing anything for her. She's one of those players who's going to come in and have her form shooting routine, right? Because again, she's a great shooter, but she would be a great shooter without it because she does all the right things, she puts in a ton of time, she's obsessed with it and we got to find ways to challenge her and force her capacity to expand right here. And what we can see is that in a lot of these, at a lot of games, she would hit the same type of shots that we would work on where it would come off of a bad pass or you know, her feet would be a little bit different or her momentum would be a little bit wild. And she was still able to make these shots because she's worked on them, she's worked on the qualities that go into being a great shooter, a knockdown shooter, and this is what ultimately leads to better in game performance. Let me just be clear with this. I'm not saying that form shooting is always a bad thing. Again, obviously, when you're talking about working with younger players or players who aren't good shooters, there can, there can be like just being closer to the basket and just doing anything really to develop that ability to shoot and is going to help you, right? I'm not going to argue that at all. If you're part of my program, the elite shooter system that you, you'll know that we, we have form shooting inside of the program. But that goes back to what I mentioned about building psychological momentum. So we might start off with that just to build a little bit of momentum and confidence going into our actual shooting workout. But the bulk of the shooting workout is what's actually getting us better. The, the form shooting is essentially just allowing us to get ourselves going mentally. And so that's an important thing. Like I mentioned with, you know, One of my players, you know, text me, hey, coach, you know, I just want to get in. I haven't been able to get in in a while and shoot and, you know, I've got something coming up here and I just want to feel good going into it. That's where it makes a lot more sense to go to some sort of form shooting so they can see the ball go through and build that confidence right there. Now my belief is that there's actually a way better drill or way better way to work on shooting close to the basket. And it's energy transfer shooting. And so for this, this is what I do with pretty much all my players now. Again, for my really good shooters, we're just going to go straight to game shots and really difficult shots. But for, you know, my players who have solid form where, again, I think there's better options in form shooting, what we'll do is we'll do this where they'll start off, they'll get their hands set in the ball and we'll kind of reach straight out with it. And they're just kind of working on being able to transfer energy effectively. So we, we're working on being able to drop ourselves that vertical drop and then getting ourselves right up into that shot. And then we'll also work on like a little bit of a foot replacement. So we're kind of stepping to the side, dropping down, using the energy transfer back up and into the basketball and then just working on that ability right there. We can work on it off of a toss right here. And so I'll link a video that kind of goes more in depth into that right there. But if I was going to do something that resembled form shooting, it would be this. Because when we look at these, these shots here, that's much more similar to a shot you're actually going to shoot from the perimeter than a really rigid, one hand form shot. Okay, so just something to keep in mind, overall, the. The main point of this video is not to demonize form shooting as much as it definitely comes across. Like, that's what I'm doing is just, you know, demonizing and hating on form shooting. Ultimately, everything has its place. And I just believe that form shooting should have way less of a place for a lot of players. Okay. And it should be used in the correct way, which is to build psychological momentum and to build confidence by you being able to see the ball go through the rim, not, not by not using it and claiming that it's going to make you a better shooter because it won't and my ultimate point with this is that my view on basketball training is it's not. It. It isn't progressing right in every industry, right there is. We get new information, we learn new things, and we adjust, we adapt, we become better because of it. With basketball training, again, so much of it is, well, my coaches told me this growing up, and so that's what I do now. And we do this because it's the way it's always been done. And whenever you try and bring up something when it comes to like, hey, maybe we could do this better, maybe we can do this instead, it almost gets demonized. And you say, well, people. People have always been doing this or this NBA player said that they did this, and that's why we should all be doing it. And again, we talk about basketball being an art and a science. There's an art to it, right? What feels good, what. What's worked for somebody else. All that sort of stuff matters. But the science aspect of it is an area that is very much overlooked and very much almost demonized when it comes to basketball training. We box players in with stuff like this and we tell them, hey, shoot 200 form shots a day. You have players who are going to do that. Like, they. They want to be great. And you're going to tell them, hey, the reason you're not a great shooter, you're not consistent, is because you don't shoot enough form shots. Your form's not good enough. And they're going to go and do that, and they're not going to get any better because they're not going to go into games and start making shots because the advice they're getting is just not very good. And that's more so why I'm like, a little bit more passionate in this video. If you watch my videos, I'm a little bit more on edge about this. Like I said, it kind of set me off a little bit watching this video because here I see somebody who's clearly been around basketball for a while, but yet is still perpetuating advice that I think really harms players in. In the long run. And that's the reason why I started doing all this, is because I know, like, I want to provide information that I know is going to help players, and I don't want that to be stuck to. Hey, this is only. We're doing this because my coach told me to do this or because this player did this. Like, that's not what I want it to be. And I think that's the biggest downfall of basketball training in general. And so like I said, obviously there's times for it, but I think in general we need to get much better at asking ourselves, is this the best thing we could do for this, or is there a better way? And am I willing to say that, hey, maybe the thing that I've been doing my whole life, maybe the thing I've been doing for all this time is wrong and am I okay with that? A lot of, there's a lot of, of trainers who are not okay with, a lot of coders who are not okay with it. And again, my goal is just to give players the best information possible and help the most that I can. So again, that's kind of why I'm, I'm, I'm as worked up as I am about this topic right here. But again, not to demonize form shooting completely, just to give you food for thought right there. So hopefully this gave you an idea or gave you just a different perspective or on all this sort of stuff. If you are a good shooter that, you know, wants to become great, you're a great shooter that wants to become elite. The number one thing, like I already mentioned to you, is find ways to challenge yourself as a shooter. Challenge, challenge, challenge, challenge, challenge. The most important thing that you can do, find ways to challenge yourself. Find ways to raise your level and meet that challenge. And when you do that over and over again, you're going to become better and the sky is the limit as what you can become. So I already mentioned it, but if you're interested in a shooting so I already mentioned this, but if you're interested in a program that can help you take your shooting to the next level, check out the elite shooter system that's linked down below. My full shooting program. I'm going to give you step by step workouts, advice on mentality and just the overall mindset necessary to become a great shooter and some different film breakdowns and all sort of stuff. So that's linked down below. Highly recommend you check that out. Appreciate you for watching. Talk soon. Peace.