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Yeah, you think it. And I was a village when I was a baby. And I still, when I was a baby got fired.

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I feel like I don't see podcasters wearing these.

They do. Look at Joe Rogan.

Okay.

It's why I wear them, even though they look ridiculous, because you can hear your own. When you can hear your own voice, you're less likely to talk over someone. Even though I still do that all the time.

Okay.

And you're just. You naturally talk quieter when we do this.

Yeah.

Okay. So this is for the Exit 5 podcast, which is supposed to be a B2B marketing podcast, but lately I've just. I'm having, like, a midlife crisis of sorts, which I'm sure Leah is going to talk about, but this is my wife Leah, whose voice that you'll hear here. It is a man speaking for a woman already. We're off to a bad start. I'm just kidding. And I've been, like, wanting to just do different. Like, I love hosting podcasts and talking to other people, but I was like, I don't know where to put this. And then, like, one thing that sucks about interviewing strangers is it's not the same chemistry. And so, like, I could do a podcast where I get authors and other people over zoom, but it just. It's hard to build that chemistry. And so I did the last episode with one of my best friends from growing up, Tim. We talked about running. Many people have listened to that. And then Lee and I were on a walk yesterday, and, well, we were like, we should do. Let's do a podcast. And so here's Leah, and we. We have some prior podcasting experience. We actually had had our own podcast after our son was born called what Parents Talk About. And we did that for a little bit when we were both home, and then it fell off for a bunch of different reasons. But now we're back. We probably haven't done a podcast in.

The last podcast we did was two years ago. Like, the very start of the pandemic, we did.

We did a Covid podcast.

Yeah. When we thought it was only going to be two weeks.

And I was like. I asked Lee, I was like, should I do this podcast? I don't know what to call it. I don't know where I'd put it. And she's like, just do it in Exit 5. It's like, the same people that listen to marketing stuff also are humans and have other things that they're gonna, like, be interested in listening about. And so we're just gonna post them in here for a while and we'll see what happens.

Watch your subscriber count dip drastically.

No, it's. It's not gonna dip because I think I have all the.

What parents talk about. People are going to come flocking, and maybe you'll get, like, 12 of more subscribers.

No, probably not. But I got to keep doing the Exit 5 podcast because I have a bunch of sponsors for next year, and so I'm going to have to put out a marketing podcast once a week, and maybe this will eventually become a different name in its own feed. And I talk to other people, but.

Okay. Anyways, this is game, boring, and very long winded.

Oh, my God. All right, go ahead.

Well, okay, I need you to, like, guide a little bit, and then I can start. So I guess.

Well, what do you. What would you like guidance on? Because we were just in the kitchen talking about periods, and you said, save it for our podcast.

Well, my. What I envisioned for this podcast was to give it, like, a marketing twist. Is like, what it's like to be married to a founder or a solopreneur.

Okay.

What. That's. I'm very interested in that.

It's a hard job, but someone's got to do it.

Okay.

And then what made me, like, start to think about it all was that, like, post that you did on. It's always one of your LinkedIn posts, and I'm in the background rolling my eyes, being like, all right, this is about 50 of the truth. Okay, fair.

So I'm. I'm open for that. I'm open to that.

It was the LinkedIn post that you wrote about how anyone can have a side hustle if they just try hard enough. And everyone was like, yeah, you're so right. I just need to try harder. And then one woman was like, okay, yeah, fair. But, you know, there are some other things to think about. And you came back with, like, some little. Sometimes you just are trying to always be, like, the snarky Marketing guy and you came back with some little quip and I was just happened to be scrolling and I texted you immediately. I was like, you need to backtrack on that. And I was like, why does it have to be.

Why is marketing the qualifier there? It's just probably just.

Well, I think you have like this Persona that you've like that you're like a no bullshit type of guy and like no excuses but like then you just kind of are so can be single tracked and like only think about your experiences.

Right.

So this woman was basically saying like, yeah, anyone can have a side hustle. But. And my look at what this cat is doing is climb, literally climbing up the wall.

Holy shit.

So basically what I said was you need to think about, yes, you created a side hustle, but think about when you started Exit 5 or DGMG. It was the beginning of a pandemic. We were working remotely, we were living at my parents house, so we had two extra people to help with the kids. I had just gotten laid off from my job, so I wasn't working at all. So you had all these like little pockets of free time to just get creative.

Yeah, I don't disagree. I think you're right. And it's why you need to have people in your life who can call you out on things and tell you things. Because I didn't have a bad intent with that. And actually there's never do. There is a lot of content like there's a lot of content that I see in my world where people are like, anyone with a, anyone with a laptop can make another $100 a month with a side project. And you and I share stuff like that with you and you're like, really though anyone like the single mother of three who also is working jobs or is a nurse and is like the last thing that that person is going to have the time or energy to do creatively. And I'm not saying that people don't do it, but yes, you're right.

There's always that NFL player that was like my mom raised all seven of us and she worked five jobs and yeah, now I'm an NFL player.

But like, yeah, no, it's hard, yeah, it's hard to make statements like that. And it's, it's one of the reasons that I didn't, I don't know, I'm at this weird point in my life and career, I think and it's one of the reasons why I struggle with like what, what do I want to do and what platform Do I want to have and be on? Because I feel like we now live in this, like, reality that's. Our life is not reality for a lot of people. And I don't mean that in, like, an arrogant way. It's just like, oh, shit. I don't. And I'm not. Now every. Anything that I speak on like, that is, like, unfairly criticized because, like, I have the easiest fucking life and very. Live a very soft life. And that's not. Not true. And so, yeah, I don't. I don't. I think that was a good.

What's going on with your hat right now?

It's. What is it? We're not on camera.

What is it distracting?

All right. Sorry. I like to wear it on just, like, the top.

I know.

So anyway. But I. I appreciate when you see that type of stuff and you share that type of stuff.

Yeah, I have to.

But my goodness. Just for the record, I'm, like, the most mild and tame from some of the things that people, like stances that people have taken, like.

Oh, yeah, no, I'm okay. Disclaimer for everything that's about to follow. You're an. You're an incredible dad and an amazing husband, and I wouldn't want to be raising my family with anyone else. And so just saying that. But I think, like, to talk about, like, the mental load of everything. Like, a lot of the things that you do every day, you're able to do because you're the CEO of Exit 5, and I'm the CEO of the household.

Right? Yeah. Right. That's true. You quit your job two years ago, and it's you and me home every day, and that gives us an incredible.

Oh, so. Yeah, you said come with questions, so, like. So here. Here's one question, and just answer it, like, straight up. Don't like dilly dally. So how many hours a week would you say that you work?

What would you define as working?

Like, getting shit?

Like, sitting at this desk. Yeah, like, thing, I think.

Or on calls. Not like, just, like, you know, thinking about things when you're on a walk. Because, like, put. Creating output.

I think it's less than 10 hours a week.

Okay, that just stopped there. And how many hours a week would you say you golf or do things related to golf?

Oh, man, this is a. She got me.

I'm not done yet.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So it takes about five hours. It takes four and a half hours to play around and golf. We'll call it five because you got to get there, you got to hit balls, you got to chip and putt. So five hours to play golf right now I'm not playing any golf.

That's a lie. You go to the stimulator.

Stimulator. I go. It definitely is a stimulator. Yeah. Okay, so that's one hour. Like that. Let's say it's one hour a day. So that would be five hours. I would say I don't go.

That's all of the YouTube videos and vlogs that you watch.

I would say it's between. It's probably similar. You think it's more.

Yes.

No. Okay, wait, in the summer, in the summer, if I play three times.

And then how many hours a week would you say you spend doing laundry?

Like, neck. Not even. Like, when I do laundry, it actually, like, things up because, like, I. Or like you asked me to. Like, hey, don't forget. Can you. I gotta go out. Can you change the laundry? And then I don't.

Okay, this is what you do. If you do laundry. If you do any laundry, there will be a literal overflowing hamper.

Yeah.

But you'll just take your dirty clothes from your closet floor and put them in there, wash them, and then never flip them. So then I have to be like, oh, fuck. There's like, oh, a wet laundry that I have to flip. So that's just like an example of like the mental load that allows you to be successful in your life.

I believe it. And there's lots of things that you do like that. And I think I don't need to put this on the air because I tell you that all the time.

No, you do.

I fully understand and appreciate that in my head, what you have is a full time job. And that's not blowing smoke.

No, I agree.

Because since you quit your job and we've come to this, like, point in our life and with my business, we pretty much treat it as I run the business side of our. If Dave and Lee are a company, I run the business side and you run the family side.

Right. I'm not trying to.

No, no. I'm just setting context for people. Like, I'm setting context for people. And so that means that, like, maybe I probably wasn't great at this even, like, when I was working in a company. But, like, that means that, like, if it's Friday and we're traveling somewhere for the weekend with the kids, like, I'm not thinking about on Friday. Like, oh, shit, I gotta pack. We gotta pack the kids up. I'm literally all I'M doing is going up to the closet.

Yeah. And I started thinking about it, like, a week prior.

I'm selfishly packing my bag, like, 20 minutes before we leave. And so I fully appreciate that. And I also think that if. If our circumstances change, then there would be a time where I would expect, like, the balance in that scale to shift back and I would expect to take on more responsibilities. But I think the way we have things set up, I think we each. We each have a role and it's. And it's important. However I do, for those listening at home, I do a lot with the children. This is no.

This is no. Okay, so this is. I would say that because, like, the.

Last thing I want is people to think picture because that's like my arch nemesis is the absentee dad.

Okay, I will.

You are the dad who is pretending to be at work at six o' clock babysits, or the dad who's babysitting or. Or the dad who takes.

Okay, let me talk.

So you can avoid picking up your children. Sorry.

No, you. You are the parent where, like, when I'm doing, you're always, like, taking the kids out or playing with them or being the Ashland to the Peach Blossom.

I play with the kids.

Yeah, you play with the kids. Which I am not good at. I'm good at nurturing them and feeding them and cooking the meals and doing their laundry and doing crafts. I am not good at pretend play.

I play with them. And wash them.

Yeah.

And lay with them.

Yeah.

And put them to bed. Okay.

No, I already gave my disclaimer that you're great.

Yeah, well, people on the Internet are, like, way less nice than you're giving them credit for.

No, I'm just like, no. Because this is like a conversation that, like.

Yeah.

Is a constant in society, is like the. The mental load of everything. And I said, I just sent you that article of, like, mom brain and how, like, it's actually from the Atlantic that it's like an actual, like, chemical change that happens in your brain.

Yeah, I believe that. Well. And I told you this week I was listening to Andrew Huberman's podcast with Peter Attia. They were going on and on for 20 minutes about menstrual cycles and periods at levels that, like, I don't know. Like, I obviously don't know. And they're both doctors, but just like, the physiological changes that happen in your body during that period, it's not made up. And they're like, PMS is not a made up thing.

Right.

It's like Literally changes happen in your body. And so like. Yeah, just, just shit like that. Like I'm.

Well, like, how. Literally yesterday my anxiety was at like complete peak for no real reason other than hormones.

Right.

And I had to like, walk. Go. We had to go for a walk and.

Yeah. But so anyway, where I'm getting with this is just like I. I feel like I'm starting to. And it sucks to have to do this at age 35, but like, I am becoming more appreciative and more understanding of the world. Doesn't operate from my perspective. And like, if I had my period once a month, oh my God, I'd be out of commission.

And I mean, sometimes I'm.

Yeah, but that's okay. But like you have, you're, you know, you're expected to just like go to your job.

Yeah.

And carry on. So you should listen. You need to listen to that podcast.

I will. Yeah. So, okay, this is another question that I had. What keeps you up at night?

Great question. Oh, I hate when people say that.

Do you want to hear some of mine?

Oh, this is a plant. I'm glad I didn't go first. Yes, please, go ahead.

Okay. I forgot to email the kids teacher that I'm picking them up early tomorrow. I still need to install the nest thermostat. Intrusive thoughts, anxiety. Oh my God, it's 3:00am and I'm still awake. Is playing Harry Potter under my pillow all night going to give me a tumor? I'm running out of time to order things for Christmas. I need to schedule the kids next doctor's appointment. I need to order size up for the kids. Oh, I need to get teacher gifts. I need to get the smoke alarms replaced. I need to return packages. I need to research summer camps. And like, that's why when Annie comes into our room, which she does once a night, and she wakes us up at 3am, I'm then up for like two hours.

That's a lot.

It is a lot.

I'm sorry about that.

Well, it's not your fault. It's my, my brain, which my mom just told me. She was like, oh, yeah. Right before I hit menopause. That's what my brain was like all the time.

I was like, does it mean you're going to hit menopause?

You'll be in for a treat.

Well, to me though, not even all of that is like from your personality and, and anxiety. I think a lot of those stem from the mental load, like you said earlier.

Yeah.

You know, like, I'm embarrassed to Even say what I was gonna say. What are you gonna say, by the way? When people look back at this episode and they're like, wow, Lee is a star. Like, it's gonna be that segment that you just had perfectly mapped out. That was great.

Thank you.

I'm proud of you. That was funny. It was powerful. I was gonna say one of the things that keeps me up at night. This is so lame compared to that list. Is like, this ongoing struggle that I have with, like, what the hell? Like, what is my identity?

I mean, that's a big relate to that. Not. I. It took me, after I lost my job, it took me at minimum a year to feel comfortable with the fact that I was not working. But our kids were in daycare.

Yeah.

Which I felt, like, so embarrassed about. Like, I felt like people judged me that, like, I sent my kids to the daycare, but I was also not working.

Totally.

So it's like you feel like you're career defines you. And for so long you've had this job, like, this identity is like the B2B marketing guy. And you loved it and you're passionate about it. And now, like, it's not that you don't like it anymore, but it's just like you're. You want to, like, broaden your interests.

Yeah. I'm like. I just.

It's a legit thing to keep.

I'm like, when I'm. When I'm, you know, when I'm 50, like, I don't want to be given webinar, you know, doing webinars about marketing strategy. And that's not a knock on anybody who does that. I just. That that will have meant that, like, for 30 years of my life, that's what I did. And I also feel this way because I think because of the business that, like, we've been able to create. And I say we because, like, it truly is not possible without having you involved in this picture. It'd be completely different.

Yeah.

Like, I wouldn't even have anybody to talk to about business. My goodness. I think there's a lot. I see a lot of things that I could do and am excited by because, like, we have the means to do some things. I don't have to necessarily, like, pick a job or a project for the money of it, or I could create something. And I've always kind of prided myself on being a creative creator type of person. And so I'm just like. I see the. The possibilities and I'm almost like overwhelmed, paralyzed. Because, like, we have this amazing business that allows us to exactly what you said. Like, I'm working less than 10 hours a week right now and I see what could be possible. So.

Yeah.

Anyway, that's the thing that keeps me up at night.

Okay.

And then I have to pee sometimes.

Yeah.

Well, Huberman said don't chug water. You're supposed to sip.

You sip it. Yeah. Okay. I also asked Katie and Jen, like, what I should ask you.

Okay.

Jen said, ask him what it's like being married to a dime.

What's it like being married?

I just.

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I'll answer that.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Let me answer Alice's head.

Hold on, I'm answering the question. This is a real thing. Like, in real life, when, like, you would come into a place or a meeting or a building or something, like, men act differently with me once they see that you're my wife. I swear, I don't. I don't know how to articulate why. And like many people in. In my life, borderline creepy things to me, and I wish I could air them all out at this time, but, I mean.

Yeah, same.

Yeah, well, right. And that's you. I mean, creepy things to me about my wife, which is like, how weird is that?

I'm thinking of one person in particular.

Yeah. Of course, I had it happen in a work scenario, and I. I'm not gonna air anybody out, but like, holy shit. My favorite joke, though, is to play on, like, when one of my funniest Instagram captions ever was, like, this great picture of. Of you and I at a wedding, and you looked amazing, obviously, and I'm just like the regular bald guy in a suit. And I wrote, I know what you're thinking. She married up, right?

How did she get him?

Oh, yeah, I know what you're thinking. How did she get him?

But Jen had a good one. How do you stay motivated when you work for yourself?

For me, it's not that hard. I've just. I mean, I am an ambitious person. Like, I think if you compare it to, like, how I continue to work out or run or do things or, like, I just am a naturally. I need goals and milestones and to do lists type things. I also now I just take pride in it. Like, I've built something. It's becoming something. It's incredible to think about, like, not having an employer, and it just kind of builds on the momentum of that.

I think my problem is I'm really good at getting the ideas, making the list, but then actually, like, following through and starting the project is where I'm like, I get like hyper focused on the idea of it all.

Yeah.

Do you miss anything about working for a company?

Yeah, for sure. I think in doses. I mean, not, not enough, like at times. Like.

Like, what's it like having only me to talk to all day long?

Well, like I, I tell people that I'm an introvert, but I also do get energy from like, I like telling stories and being funny and going for walks with people and I think I miss some of that interaction.

I know. Because I don't really laugh at any weird jokes.

No, because you. Right. You don't. Yeah.

That's kidding. I do.

Okay. Sometimes I think I miss some of that. I miss the occasional, like, go for a walk and get a coffee, go for a walk and get lunch. I like to present in front of people and stuff. I think that part is enjoyable. But none of those things, if I weighed them out between the freedom that I have now, I wouldn't. Wouldn't trade it.

Yep.

Because there's trade offs and pros and cons to anything.

So this was another one that Jen gave, but she said, ask him what he makes for the kids lunch. And I was like, oh, I know what he makes for the kids lunch.

Because like, you see it.

Yeah. Well, so this is how our nights usually go. If I cook dinner, you usually clean up and make the kids lunches. And I'll give them a bath. Yeah, typically if you cook, then vice versa. So when I make the kids lunches, it's like a. Gets like a little creative for me. A little creative outlet.

Yep.

And I'll like, you know, whatever floats your boat. I'll use like all the little ramekins and like the little animal toothpicks and whatever and like the dividers. And then when I check yours, it's all the same ingredients, but it's like in one Tupperware you'll have fresh strawberries and freeze dried strawberries and pirate's booty and deli meat and.

No.

And cucumbers and tomatoes. No, no, no. You put them all in, in the same thing.

Not true. That's what a psychopath would do.

No, that's literally what you do.

I don't, I don't think I do that. I'm going to put a. I literally.

Called you out on it the other day and you're like, you were like, I know it's because I think it's a fun way to eat it.

No, I don't mix. Like, I would never put it. I would Never put strawberries in the same compartment as pirates booty. Because if I did that, then the pirate.

You mix strawberries and tomatoes, which I find very odd.

I feel like the kids just eat it like a, like a fruit salad. I try to put as many, like, good things in there as they can get because they're picky.

Yeah.

So. Yeah. So what do I. What, what do I make the kids lunch? Like, it's pretty much, no, I just said it.

I just answered it.

Or P.B.

And J and Annie gets hot lunch now, which has been a revelation.

Some nights the shower, like, taking them up is a better activity, and some nights cleaning up is a better idea.

Depends on what you're doing.

There's trade offs to both.

There is.

Sometimes it's nice to be downstairs and like, listening to a podcast while the kids and just. But I also feel like sometimes it happens in, like, it'll be one of those nights where, like, Annie will just be in and out in two seconds.

And then she's down.

But then some nights it's like the kids are playing and I got like a nice 30 minutes down here, and.

Then the person upstairs doing bath is like chasing the kid around and saying 15 times, okay, go pee so you can get in the tub. Go pee so you can get in the tub. Get in the tub. Get in the tub.

Right.

Yep. Okay. What's on your Tick Tock for you page?

I don't have the Tick Tock app on my phone right now.

Where do you watch it?

In the web? I, I.

In the web.

I don't, honestly. I just use Instagram, so. Sorry. I think on the, on Instagram, reels is just everybody that's posted that post on TikTok also posts on reels.

Yeah.

And it's just nice to have one place and someone at home is listening and they're like, but what about the security? And what about. There's, there's lots of TikTok stuff.

My TikTok has me convinced that I have ADHD and they might be right.

You probably do.

I do, I think, yeah.

Why did TikTok convince you that of that?

Oh, because like, everything that they say, I'm like, that checks that all the boxes.

Oh, your TikTok for you page. Like, there was a video about it.

Oh, that's like my whole for you.

Page is like, you might have.

Are you, Are you a middle aged woman with kids who has trouble focusing.

And likes to take categories of things that are on that page?

Like, literally, they just feed me.

Interesting. Yeah, that you should get that looked at.

Adhd, more medications. But I also heard something. I forget where I heard it. That is Tick Tock from in China.

Yeah.

That they're feeding their community and their children who are on Tick Tock. They're feeding them, like, science videos and like, cultural enrichment and like, videos that are making them smarter. And then they're feeding, like, the other countries. Just brain junk.

Yeah. Yeah, probably.

Yeah.

Between the. I mean, the Internet is literally ruining society right now, which is so frustrating. And I've made a lot of money off of the Internet. It's like, what the f. It's another existential crisis that I'm having.

Yeah. Where you're gonna go off the grid.

No, I don't want to go off the grid. It's just like, so much of my business and income is tied to, like, you know, online channels. But then also those things, some of those things make me so, like, unhappy. And it's the source of, like, a lot of just bullshit that's happening in the world. And it would be nice to just live an analog. Analog life. It's like what I love right now about running. What I love about golf is for that reason, it's just like, not. Not daily catching up with the news, not arguing with each other over who said what based on who they are. It's just that part really sucks and.

Having to, like, overanalyze everything you post if someone's gonna be offended or cancel you.

Yeah. Like, you couldn't even watch. Like, Michael Scott wouldn't even survive today. But that's not even what the biggest issue. Issue is. Yeah. That part sucks. And so I'm enjoying. And like, I also think since we moved and had kids, like, I'm really enjoying, like, having a local community and don't share much about, like, I won't. Okay. Like, I'm really. I'm really enjoying, like, having a local community and having local friends and like, our kids being in school and having parent friends. Like, I have spent my time last 10 years in like, the startup Silicon Valley Internet world. And I'm not saying that, like, the Internet obviously has enabled so many of those things, but I'm getting so much joy about just like, being Dave the, like, guy in the community that. That I want, like, more of that Soccer dad Dave. Yeah.

Yeah, I know. That is our favorite thing to talk about how.

Yeah. I was gonna ask you. My question for you is what's your favorite song right now?

The song that's like, literally in my head at this exact moment is it's like this Leon Bridges and Noah Cyrus song.

Okay, hold on.

Why is this, like, something you ask people?

I'm just curious. Noah.

Miley Cyrus.

Smiley. Oh. Oh, for real?

Yeah.

Noah.

Yeah.

This one.

Yeah. Sam and I have been listening to it every morning and some.

Nice. Do you listen to much music in.

The kids in the car when I'm in the car with the kids because obviously I'm not listening to a podcast and I try and get music on as soon as possible so I don't have to listen to another episode of Thomas the Train.

Can't believe my favorite song.

Yeah. God, they could not be more different.

This is like, oh, people. People don't have no idea. But, yeah, that's what's in my head.

Do you? I asked you this the other day.

But I wish I was a dj.

That is one of your.

Oh, that's not the question.

Oh, no. But one of your talents is, like, you always are the best dj.

Yeah, I'm a great picker.

Great picker.

So if you want me to DJ your next event. Actually, no, I was like, that'd be so fun. I could learn how to DJ. Be a DJ. You can't be a DJ if you go to bed at 8:45.

No, I just had a Seinfeld line in my head.

Which was what?

Moses was a picker.

Have you tried this candle? Moses was a picker.

It's like a nose picking.

All right. Do you have any more questions on your list?

I don't think so.

This is a big comeback.

I know.

I'm excited for this.

I'm just going to take over the Exit 5 podcast. Sorry, all. You beat a beers.

No, no, that's okay. We'll see. Well, you know what? We'll let the ratings decide. We'll be able to know it's not.

My best work, but we'll be able.

To measure the feedback. Thanks for. Thanks for. Prepared for allowing us to do something different. Yeah, that's all I gotta say.

All right.

Oh, also, Lee and I are looking for some shows. We need some recommendations for some shows. So if we can use this.

But like, not scary shows.

Not scary shows. No. Yeah. They can't be crime or any.

As we've covered in this podcast, I have anxiety and I have to listen to Harry Potter to fall asleep at night.

Right. So we're looking for shows. The way you can send us shows is if you go to Instagram and go to Dave Gearhart one. Dave Gerhardt one.

The numeral.

Yeah, the numeral one. And Send me a message there. Or you can send an email to helloxit5.com. Yeah, let's do that. Send an email, helloxit5.com say hi to me. Say hi to Leah. Let me know if you listen to this podcast, if you like this podcast, if we should do more of it. And we'll take your TV show recommendations that can be binged in the one hour hour we have to ourselves after the kids go to bed. And recent shows that we've watched.

Severance, Severance, Queen's Gambit.

Queen's Gambit.

We were real late to the game on that one. Below Deck.

Below Deck. We love reality tv.

What we've been rewatching. This is how hard up we are. We've been re Watching Summer House from starting season one.

Yeah. So while you bros are at home listening to your Warren Buffett videos, I'm on the couch watch with Leah. Listening. Watching Bravo, we watch Below Deck. We watch Summer House.

Winter House.

We watch Winter House. We watch all the Below Deck. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not into the Housewives.

No, I'm not. I'm over.

I know them. I know them all.

I'm very over it.

But there. It's not really my speed. The Housewives.

We should do a Bravo podcast.

Okay, so I've thought about that. The problem is, in order to do a Bravo podcast, that means that we gotta watch that damn show and take notes.

Yeah.

Because that's what those people are doing. Right? They're like. So then. Because they. They say it verbatim. What happened?

Yeah, they do.

But that would be fun. Like a medium like that would with you. Like a genre that I'm actually really interested in in right now on YouTube is music reviews and reactions. Like, there's that one.

The dad and.

Yeah, there's that one dad. Like dad and his son and they play music for him.

That's gonna be you and Sam.

Yeah, like, I'm gonna play Sam. Like, I already can't wait. Like we're. But he has to sit still for now. I'll play him like the blueprint and still matic. And it'll matter. Yeah, it'll be great. Something like that would be fun. We should have done a Taylor Swift, like, album listen. Because it's not that much work. You listen straight through.

I know, but yeah.

And it's done better by people who, like, know what the hell she's talking.

I know.

I did say to you though, when the first time I heard. It's me. Hi, I was like, this is going to be a TikTok clip.

It is.

And it is.

I even did one.

You did?

Oh yeah. Me unraveling all the play doh. Got smushed together.

All right, this is great. Send us. Send us feedback, ideas, show reviews, show ideas. Helloxit5.com thank you for listening to this episode. Now I have to figure out how the hell I don't have any device in this house that can take an SD card and put this on the computer. So we'll figure out. We might have to go to Best Buy to get this out. Okay, thank you. Bye Bye. Hey, thanks for listening to this episode of the Exit 5 podcast. If you're in B2B marketing and you want to grow your career, you should also go and check out everything that we have over@exit5.com we've got articles, we've got videos, we've got templates. Plus we have a community. A community of over 4,000 B2B marketing pros. We're Whether you're deep in your career and want to connect with your peers or just starting up and you want a place to go where you can see what people are talking about, get smarter about B2B marketing in your own time to grow your career and help grow your company. Go and check it out. It's exit5.com you can get on the email list there. You can join the community. There's 4,000 marketers in the community. We have a job board. We're always adding new stuff. It's really becoming the number one place you can go if you want to grow your career and learn. Learn more about B2B marketing outside of what you're doing inside of your company every day. So check it out. Exit5.com and I also want to make sure I give a shout out to my friends at Hatch. That's Hatch fm. They produce this podcast. It sounds amazing because of the work that they do and they work with B2B companies just like yours. They offer unlimited podcast editing and strategy for businesses. You can get unlimited podcast editing and on demand strategy for a low monthly costs. All you got to do is just upload your episode and they take care of the rest. Go and check them out. It's Hatch fm.

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