S1E26 / Indigenous Peoples / Rebecca Nagle, Melissa Begay, Jamescita Peshlakai

5 Jun 2020 · 26 min
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5 Jun 2020 · 26 min

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In this episode of the podcast Epidemic, host Dr. Céline Gounder interviews Navajo physician Dr. Melissa Begay, Cherokee activist Rebecca Nagle, and Arizona State Representative Jamescita Peshlaikai to explore why the Navajo Nation has suffered the highest per‑capita COVID‑19 infection rate in the United States and how Indigenous communities are responding. The conversation weaves together cultural context (handshakes, clan identity, the spiritual significance of Canyon de Chelly and Spider Rock, and the concept of hozhón/balance), historical trauma from past pandemics (the 1918 flu, smallpox, the Long Walk), and structural determinants of health such as chronic under‑funding of the Indian Health Service, the legacy of the Bennett Freeze that halted infrastructure development for decades, and current deficits in water, electricity, plumbing, and housing. Economic pressures are highlighted, including the loss of tribal casino revenue, extreme unemployment (pre‑pandemic ~50 % rising toward 90 %), and reliance on federal treaty obligations that are under‑funded (IHS needs $36.8 B, receives $6 B). Public‑health challenges specific to the reservation—limited contact‑tracing capacity, lack of phone/email addresses, absence of physical mailing addresses, water scarcity that hampers hand‑washing, and food deserts with only 13 full‑service grocery stores for an area the size of West Virginia—are detailed. The guests describe bureaucratic obstacles in accessing federal COVID relief, the delayed disbursement of CARES Act funds, and the need for more sustained investment. Despite these hardships, the episode emphasizes community resilience: elders preserving traditional knowledge, grassroots distribution of food and water, renewed interest in cultural teachings like hozhón, and the role of youth in disseminating information via social media. The dialogue underscores how historical inequities intersect with the pandemic, while also highlighting Indigenous agency and hope for rebuilding health infrastructure that reflects cultural values.

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