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In this conversational deep‑dive, hosts A and B trace the origins and impact of the Sustainable Sciences Institute (SSI), founded by virologist Eva Harris. Beginning with Harris’s 1988 decision to leave a prestigious PhD path and work in war‑torn Nicaragua, the dialogue highlights her encounter with leishmaniasis and the realization that life‑saving molecular tools existed only in the Global North. Harris learns from early PCR pioneer Christian Arrego that the technique’s core chemistry can be performed without expensive equipment, leading her to teach manual PCR in Nicaragua using improvised water‑baths, oil‑capped boiling points, and kitchen‑blender centrifuges. The hosts contrast this “do‑it‑yourself” model with traditional “parachute science,” emphasizing capacity‑building over extraction. After winning a MacArthur Fellowship, Harris formalizes SSI in 1998, structuring it around four pillars: on‑site laboratory workshops, scientific writing workshops, seed‑grant funding, and material aid (rescued equipment). The conversation details concrete outcomes: a rapid dengue‑type‑3 detection in Peru (within a day), a hepatitis‑C research program in Egypt, and a massive pediatric dengue cohort in Managua that overcame a lack of street addresses through low‑cost ICT tools and GPS‑enabled data collection, later scaling to a city‑wide health‑information system (CPAY). The hosts close by arguing that true scientific innovation lies in making knowledge accessible, empowering local researchers, and that future pandemic solutions may emerge from resource‑constrained labs using ingenuity rather than from elite North‑based facilities.

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