How This Doctor Reversed Her Multiple Sclerosis With Food And Lifestyle

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I restructured my diet and within a month my fatigue was markedly reduced, my mental clarity was clearly improving. In three months I get up and I'm walking with a cane. In nine months I'm on my bike and I pedal around the block for the first time in six years. And in 12 months I do a 20 mile bike ride with my family.

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Hi, I'm Kaya, one of the producers of the Doctor's Pharmacy. Dr. Hyman frequently says food isn't like medicine, food is medicine, and it works quicker and better than many drugs on the market. This was certainly proven true by Dr. Terry Walls, who used the power of food and lifestyle change to treat and reverse her MS. She sat down with Dr. Hyman to tell her story and discuss how the protocol she developed is proving effective in treating a wide range of illnesses.

Routinely, I'm being contacted by people who are telling me that their treating physicians had given up on them, saying there was nothing that they had to offer them for a condition, which I of course have never heard of. And they're telling me that they've implemented the Wahl's protocol and that their functions are improving.

I mean, it sounds too good to be true, but the truth is that when you look at the principle of creating health, there are certain foundational concepts here. The right food, exercise, stress reduction, sleep, the right nutrients. And it doesn't matter what disease you have because when you provide the body what it needs, it often can recover. So it's not like there's one treatment for MS, another diet for cancer, another diet for Alzheimer's, another diet for rheumatoid arthritis or psoriasis. Like it's the same principles that you can apply to all these things. Tell us, Terri, how you kind of found your way to health through this approach that you call the Walls Protocol?

So, you know, in 2000, I was diagnosed with MS. I knew I was headed towards becoming bedridden, possibly demented. I was having more and more trouble with severe pain that was very difficult to control. Later, I discover on one of my Google searches, the Institute for Functional Medicine.

Yeah.

And I took the course on neuroprotection in the midst of my brain fog. So this was, it was a bit challenging, but I got through it. I had a longer list of supplements, a little deeper understanding of the things I could be doing for my mitochondria and for my brain. And I added that. And then I had another really, really big aha moment, like, I should take this list of supplements and redesign my paleo diet to maximize the nutritional intake. So I restructured my diet, and within a month, my fatigue was markedly reduced. My mental clarity was clearly improving. In three months, I get up and I'm walking with a cane.

You got out of your wheelchair?

I'm out of my wheelchair, walking around with a cane. And in nine months, I'm on my bike and I pedal around the block for the first time in six years. And in 12 months, I do a 20-mile bike ride with my family.

Unbelievable. So it was a year.

A year.

Take us a little bit slower through what you did, because you- I did a lot. ate the Paleo diet, then you did the drugs, but then you went to this neuroprotection plan. Module from IFM, and you learned from there what you could do to optimize your system.

I had this very intensive nutrition. So I had ramped up my vegetables to like nine cups of vegetables a day.

Which is 18 servings. 18 servings, not the five to nine.

Yeah, 18 servings. And so a small amount of meat, lots and lots of vegetables.

And very specific groups of vegetables.

Very specific groups.

Very specific groups. Very specific medicinal facts that you talked about.

Exactly.

People are probably listening, but what are the 19 or 18 servings of vegetables you ate? And what groups were they? And what do they do?

Okay, so first, and I think the most powerful one is all these greens. So I was having tons and tons of green leafy vegetables. So I was probably having six to, actually six to nine cups measured raw.

Collards, kale.

Collards, kale. A little bit of spinach. I really craved kale in a huge way. But I'd have collards, I would have Swiss chard, I had lots and lots of salads, I would have some cooked greens. I was very big into cabbage family vegetables. So cabbage, broccoli, turnips, rutabagas, lots of it raw, some cooked, but it's also very, very big into raw. Garlics, lots of garlic, shallots, onions.

Because they have sulfur, they boost the ion.

Sulfur, boost the detox, boost your ability to make gamma-aminobutyric acid, intracellular glutathione, and then very much into mushrooms. Mushrooms stimulate and prime adaptive and innate immune cells. They also stimulate your ability to make nerve growth factors.

Medicinal mushrooms are powerful.

Very powerful.

They have all kinds of amazing ingredients that aren't in other foods.

And garlic and mushrooms are medicinal foods across many, many cultures across all the continents. so these are medicinal foods with a lot of ancient cultural wisdom.

So greens, brassicas, garlic and onions, and ginger.

And then color. And then color, so the polyphenols are a marker for color, and the polyphenols again, and study after study, the more color you have, the lower the rates of heart disease, Diabetes, obesity, cardiovascular disease, cancers. So you want color. And furthermore, blue, purple, black, a lot of studies showing you can have measurable improvement in cognition in as little as 16 weeks using just a cup of blueberries as in placebo double-blind crossover trials. That's hardly any time at all.

No, that's amazing. Not Skittles though.

Not Skittles.

Those are colorful.

Those are the wrong kind of color, my friend. So again, three cups, of deeply pigmented stuff. And then fats, you know, fats have a critical role. All of our cells are wrapped in fat. They're fat wrappers, the cell membranes. And our brain is 60 to 70% fat.

So your nerve coverings, which you get destroyed in MS, are also fat.

Fat. And they need arachidonic acid, they need eicosapentaenoic acid, they need the cosaxanoic acid, they need omega-6 and omega-3 fats. And so I needed to have more fat in the diet.

Did you use saturated fat?

You know, actually I did. So I used lots of fat. So we'd have flax oil, hemp oil in the dressings that I'd use. And then we would cook In saturated fat, I'd use coconut oil, I'd use bacon fat, duck fat. My vets, because I, you know, for years I worked at the vet, so I would teach the vets. My favorite recipe was bacon and greens. You cook up some bacon, take the bacon out, leave the bacon fat, dump in the greens, stir them around till they're wilted, add the bacon back. If you didn't like it, just double the bacon the next time you make it. And my vets would go like, oh my God, you mean I can eat bacon? That actually tastes, you know, sounds like it would taste wonderful. So, and we have lots of avocados as well, get into nuts and seeds. And so what is remarkable was the speed at which I could see the difference in 30 days. So, so was it- well, think about.

It, you know, you took all these drugs, they didn't work. But when you use food as a drug, as medicine, it actually worked faster and better.

Very fast. And that's exactly what I saw in clinic. I was able to teach my residents in clinic as well that food is the most powerful medicine. And it works amazingly well.

It's better and cheaper than most drugs.

Yes.

It's an amazing substance. And when people understand it's not just calories as we learn in functional medicine, it's information. and they can go, wait a minute, I can upgrade my biology by putting better information in.

Into your body, absolutely, absolutely. I'll also add in there, I added in electrical stimulation of my muscles. That was a technique that athletes have been doing for decades to speed the recovery from athletic injuries. So my physical therapist had agreed to let me add that, so I was doing that. I had gone back to adding meditation at night, So I added that back.

Were there diagnostic tests that you did on yourself that you discovered anything that was off or out of balance?

You know, so into my recovery, so two years into my recovery, I thought, well, I'm sure toxic load was a big issue in all of this. So keep in mind, I've been walking around, hiking now, I've been biking, very little pain. So I'm in great shape. And I finally did a 24-hour heavy metals challenge test, and I was diffusely toxic in everything.

All your metals were high.

All my metals were high. I think there were only four that were not high. Now, the other thing that I should tell you, I repeated all of that four years later, and everything is gone.

Amazing.

So who knows, like how incredibly toxic I was in the very beginning.

Before, right.

In the very beginning.

How did you get rid of them all?

Well, when I designed my protocol, I designed it around Bucill, the detox enzyme. So that's why I stressed the greens, the sulfur, the color. I added in there some anacetyl cysteine and some algae as well.

And binders to get the metals out as well. Things to help regulate your gut.

And then the other thing, Six months into my recovery, I was able to overcome my heat intolerance. And so I got a sauna and I've been saunaing ever since.

Amazing. So it was basically food, supplements, electrolyte simulation.

And very basic supplements. B vitamins, N-acetyl cysteine, and algae. That's it.

That's it. No vitamin D. well, yes, there's vitamin.

D in there, of course, because there's.

The evidence around vitamin D. Yeah.

Plenty of vitamin D. And I also use sunlight.

Sunlight.

You know, sunlight is more effective than vitamin D orally.

You put some black on your face, but the rest of your body will definitely be a good one because you don't want to age fast. But, yeah, it's powerful. I agree. So you've taken this Insight that you had from your own healing. Yes. And you've you've done an extraordinary thing, which is you've created a model that you use to treat patients and to train other physicians and providers and to do research in this space. So you also are exploring not just MS, but other brain issues. So talk about the kind of things besides MS that you're working on and what kind of results you're seeing.

So in my lifestyle clinics, again, we were able to keep track of who's coming to see us. Pain was the number one reason that people would come in. then autoimmunity, metabolic problems like diabetes, heart disease. In terms of the types of neurologic problems that people would come in, Parkinson's, myasthenia gravis, cognitive decline, Alzheimer's, of course, traumatic brain injury, PTSD, mood disorders.

Pretty much everything for which we have very poor treatments.

Poor treatments, poor treatments. And certainly what we would consistently would see Some of the first things people would notice is fatigue going down, energy going up, mental clarity improving, brain fog diminishing, irritability diminishing, quality of life. So quality of life, absolutely improving.

Well, the protocol is anti-inflammatory, it's detoxifying, it's mitochondrial boosting, it's gut repairing. Absolutely. These are all the foundations of creating health. And so when you do that, regardless.

Of what condition you have, people seem to get better. You know, and I'm trying to teach people that what we need to be focusing on is the creation of health, that this is your best treatment for whatever chronic disease you have. Yeah, you know, if you're about treating.

The disease, you treat.

You create health.

Health, right? You create health. And the disease goes away as a.

Side effect, I often say. It will often diminish.

There is no magic bullet when it comes to treating MS, heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, or any of the other pervasive chronic diseases we are seeing so much of. Yet what you eat has the ability to program your body with messages of health. Food contains information and it has the power to prevent and reverse so much illness and disease. If you'd like to learn more about Dr. Terri Wahls and the Wahls Protocol, I encourage you to check out her full-length conversation with Dr. Hyman. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider.

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