Embracing the Sabbath in a Digital World with Erick Vargas

Foreign. Welcome to the Entrusted to Lead podcast. I'm Danita and today I'm excited to share my conversation with Eric Burgess. He's the founder of Sabbath Space and he's a Christian entrepreneur who is on a mission to help believers reclaim their faith and well being in a tech driven world. So today we're going to dive into his entrepreneurial journey and his heart to help restore the Sabbath concept in today's tech centric culture so that we can bring balance and intention back to so you don't want to miss today's episode, Grab your cup of coffee or your favorite beverage and let's get started. Doing things alone is entirely overrated. We all need a community to thrive and that's why I'm part of an online community of writers and speakers, podcasters and entrepreneurs called Cold Creatives. And I love it. In the years since I joined this community, I've launched new ideas and I finally executed the dreams that sat on the shelf for years. Seriously. And I was able to do this because of the outstanding group of mentors, exceptional training and encouraging mastermind groups with my new friends who did and continue to give me invaluable feedback. Oh, and not to mention all the fun because we have had lots and lots of fun. Have you ever said I want to write a book or do you want to use your voice for the exciting world of podcasting? If so Called Creatives is your best resource for up to the minute industry training, expert advice, live coaching and peer support like no other. Best selling authors and speakers Ali Worthington and Lisa Whittle lead this community with a no competition mission and its shows. So join my friends and I in the called Creative community. Head to my show notes danitacommons.com podcast and click the link to get all the details to join. I promise you won't regret it. I look forward to seeing you in the community and watching you grow. Hey friends, welcome to the Entrusted to Lead podcast. I'm Danita and today I'm super excited to be joined by my new friend Eric Vargas. He has a pretty important story which I'm super excited to share today. Twofold1 He's a Christian entrepreneur and he is on a mission to help believers reclaim their faith and their wellbeing in the tech driven world which we're all constantly asking for new ways in order to do that. And he has a pretty personal story which I hope he'll share with us today after he struggled with his own technology addiction and find time to put his faith and his family first so super excited for him to come on and share and then also a little bit about his entrepreneur journey because we know as entrepreneurs and leaders, that's a whole different world. So Eric, thanks for joining me on the show today. How are you?

I'm doing great. Thanks for inviting me and having me here. I'm super excited to see what I have to say. I don't know.

That's so good. I know I say that sometimes where I'm like, I don't know, I trust God with my resources and those are also my words.

Exactly.

That's very cool. Well, we were talking before we hit record that you're in sunny Florida today. So do you want to tell everyone a little bit more about yourself and kind of your story and how you got to be where you are today?

Yeah. So I grew up here in South Florida. I didn't know how good I had it. So then I moved to Virginia for school and I went to Liberty University, a really large Christian university and I went there for business entrepreneurship and I didn't really learn much about that actually. So it's very different going to school for something versus what you'd find in the real world. And from there got engaged and me and my wife moved down here to South Florida and she is a worship leader. And I thought I was going to be a pastor actually for a long time there. I just graduated from seminary last year, which was a lifelong goal of mine. And so we kind of been doing ministry for like 15 years. But when you get married you have to get a job. So that's what I did. And I worked at a couple of software companies down here. I realized that I didn't want to kind of climb the corporate ladder and so decided to kind of venture off on my own. And I met my co founder in my full time company called Follow Up CRN and he's a Christian guy, his name's Greg Wallach. He's in the fourth quarter of his career and he runs a large commercial roofing company based out of Fort Lauderdale and we started this software together and that's kind of what I've done career wise. So I've been building this software now for like eight years. And from there with the skillset that I've kind of built in that entrepreneurial journey, I love to start a whole bunch of things. So one of those being Sabbath Space and I have a couple of other tech startup. But at the end of the day what I'm trying to do is serve the church and Christians and merge these two Worlds. And that's kind of how we got here.

Wow, that's super cool. I'd like to go back. You went to school at Liberty for business entrepreneur, but then you got into the software development space. So how did that happen? So you went to school and then you ended up going your 9 to 5. But how did you get into software? Was that something that you did like when you were younger or you were interested in it because that wasn't in your degree program, right?

No, it wasn't. So from there I worked at a company called Citrix where I just did sales. I did software sales. So that's how I got into software. And at Citrix I helped further implement a really big software called Salesforce and that's a CRM. And so I got to know what a CRM was. And then from there we launched a follow up CRM, which is a CRM that's specific to the construction industry. And that's really where I kind of learned and built my skillset to launch startups.

Okay, that makes sense. So the other startups that you have, they're also tech as well. Are they software development companies as well?

Yeah. So one of them is called Worship Serve and my wife actually runs that and it's pretty cool. The problem that we solve, basically there is every worship leader hates the Sunday or the Saturday night call from their drummer saying, hey, I can't make it or I'm sick or maybe somebody's on vacation. And Worship Serve is a marketplace that musicians and worship leaders can have a listing. And then worship leaders, whenever they meet somebody, they can go and hire somebody. And Sunday morning you have a drummer. So. So that's what that is. It's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's very cool. And I say this, this was something we talked about before, but my husband and I both served on our worship teams in our churches for years and we have a really good friend who's a worship pastor leader. So I'm intimately familiar with the late night. Yeah. Early morning. And we have a set list and let's readjust. And the pastor is jumps on the drums because that's, you know, the really cool, amazing thing of it.

We were on our way to church and then my wife gets four frantic phone calls from pastors and my worship leader just quit. I don't have anyone for Sunday. Who do you know? You know, do you have a drummer? And I'm like, honey, what do you do with all these phone calls? She's like, well, I just text my Rolodex of Friends, because she knows everybody down here in the worship world. And I said, okay, gimme a couple of weeks. And so that's how worship serve was kind of born. So solving that problem. And it's been running for like, about two years now. So that's one entrepreneurial journey that we kind of started to do Satisface as well.

That's super cool. So I love that. I think that's important for this conversation. The reason why I asked is because sometimes we start out on a trajectory, like you said. I thought I was going to be a pastor, and then I went to Liberty, and then I was a business entrepreneur, but then I transferred over here. And so it's just this beautiful testament, I think, to following the cloud, which I like to say, right? We're like, not exactly sure where God is going today, but we're going to follow the cloud and trust that he is good. And it seems to, from the pieces that you're sharing, finding this way to let all of God live through all of you and all of the different pieces that seem to spare it, or I guess that would be the question, did they seem to spare it? Do you still find yourself in this place today as a leader and an entrepreneur that we are still trying to figure out, where are we going? How do all these pieces fit together?

Great question. So God sovereign, right? So they all do connect together, right? So even if it feels like it doesn't connect, then he's building out a greater story that we're all in. Right. And also to that point, Steve Jobs has a really great quote about this, where back in the day, when I think he was like in middle school or high school, he became obsessed with calligraphy and these different beautiful fonts. And he had no idea that 20 years later he would create the Apple computer, the first computer with all these beautiful fonts. And so he never thought those two things would connect. And so he said, your job is to be a dot collector, not necessarily knowing how they're going to connect, but to collect them as you're going. So I thought that was really pertinent to what you're saying.

No, that's so good. I love that I'm in the space today where I'm trying to live every day in the promises of God and to see them. And so that's kind of little gifts and treasures that he's given us and he gives us every single day. And we don't always know, like, what am I supposed to do with this thing in my hand? So. And the Lord's like, well, just do that one thing. That's all I asked you to do today. But there is a testament to faith, I think, in that. And it is hard some days. So I try to encourage entrepreneurs who are in that space where they feel a little overwhelmed that, you know, it might not always be clear, but God is still good. You wanna share a little bit now? So you went to school, you got married, you're transitioning from pastor to software designer. And how did Sabbath space come to life?

Yeah. So Sabbath space, and this is really just like a lesson in entrepreneurship in general. It comes from solving my own problem. And I think we are all on our phones all the time, way too much. My wife would constantly tell me, hey, you're on your phone too much, or you're on your phone, or, you know, get off your phone or things like that. And I thought, well, you're on your. I guess we're just on our phones on different times, right? And at different times of the day. Right. But then two years ago, we had our first baby boy. And I look at my screen time and I'm like, six and a half hours. And I'm like, what? That's crazy. I didn't even know where that time went. You kind of just look down and then you look up and then six hours right? Now, of course, it's not all at the same time. You probably spend an hour here, an hour there on your phone. But I would challenge everybody just to go to your phone and check out your screen time and take a look at that habit. And I didn't like that six hours. I'm like, man, what a waste, right? What a waste of my time. What else could I be doing? How could I be investing in my son, my wife, my family, my community? And so that's really kind of how Sabbath space started. And I'm like, how could we solve this problem?

That's so good and I think it's important. The piece that you mentioned is my kids are big now, right? So we have four kids and grandkids, and our youngest is 18, so our oldest is 25. I'll put my old mom hat on for you and say most of our life and pouring into our children are done in those 15 minute segments, right? They're not done in the six hours. Because the candid reality is we might not have six hours to sit down next to them. So those 15 minutes when they get home, or when you can read a quick book before bed, or you can sit down on the floor and you can spend Those times, sometimes we think it has to be really big. Kind of like Bible study. Right. Or devotion with the Lord. We would love to spend four hours or three hours or an hour sitting down deep studying something that's really important. But the reality is, for most of us, we're doing it in those 15 to 20 minute segments. And so I think that is probably a lot of wisdom the Lord shared. You've got six hours of 15 minute segments that you could be really making a difference. So super cool.

And it's all about the attention. Where are you paying attention? Right. Because I want to be paying attention to him that's right in front of me playing on the floor with his toys. Right. Not paying attention to the addictive technology that is in your hand.

Right? Yeah. That's so good. So then what did you do after that? So you realized, I'm six hours on my phone and then what is the solution that you've come up with?

Yeah, so I started to talk to people. I'm like, how much time do you spend on your phone? And I saw a range, you know, minimum, probably four to eight hours, right. That people were spending on their phone. And I saw this graphic that really kind of impacted me that show Gen Z's time spent. A third of their life is sleeping, a third of their life is awake, and a third of their life is on their phone in front of a screen. So a third. And I was like, wow, that's a lot. So from there I put my entrepreneurial hat and I got some of our developers to develop an app that blocks apps and notifications on your phone. There's a couple of different things out there like that already, but the added twist that makes Sabbath Space a little bit different is that it's activated by a physical device. So it's an app and a device. So I actually have it right here, this little keychain that has a microchip in it. And all you have to do is open the Sabbath Space app and then tap the keychain and now your phone is blocked. And you can also select the apps you want to shut off.

Right.

So you can say, I just want to shut off all social media, but I still want my text messages and phone calls to come through because those aren't that distracting to me. So you can block that and then it only unblocks when you re scan this device. What it does, it adds an extra layer of friction so that my wife used to use the screen time feature on the iPhone, but would bypass it every time it would Pop up. That was too easy. Right. So she tries to go on Instagram and the screen time thing pops up and she's like, okay, one more time, one more time, one more time. Right. And then everybody does that and it's just too easy. On the other hand, I've seen people kind of like lock their phones away in like a timekeeping box where you can't even touch it. To me, that's like too difficult. And so this is kind of a happy medium where you can have this keychain. You can put the keychain away and then go on a walk. You're probably. The way I describe it is like, just don't have any cookies in the house. Right. And you're probably not gonna eat junk food because it's harder to like drive to the store, pick up cookies just to have cookies. Right. So same kind of concept.

Yeah. I love the intentionality of it, like you said. So now you're choosing. It's easier to just scan it and be like, nope, bypass. Yeah. Cause I've done that before too. Like social media, like you've exceeded your time allotment that you set for yourself. And then you're like, yeah, but I would like more in the moment. Whereas if you have to physically make yourself get up, then you're asking that question with intentionality, like, do I really want to do this or am I really hopefully having self accountability for the things that I value? Which is really what? Like what you said, the things that you value.

Yeah. We also have a stand that's like a bedside table stand. It's. It's probably like, you know, 4 inches tall. And so you can either have it maybe like on your nightstand, or some people have it at the table by the front of their door. So when they enter the house, they just scan the device and then it's off. And then you can go sit on the couch or, you know, whatever you're going to do for the day. Right. And so then you have to walk across the whole house just to like unscan your phone. Right. Probably in the future, we'll probably have many kinds of devices that can turn it on and off.

Sure. That's super neat. So what happens if you lose them all? If you lose all of your devices?

Great question. Yeah. So you can actually get replacement ones. It's just pretty easy. That's why we made it a keychain, because if you lose your keys, you might have some bigger problems. But we do have an emergency mode where you have five emergency modes to kind of Quick access, so that. And you always have your phone calls and text messages so it's safe. And then if worse comes to worst, you can delete the app and it kind of unlocks everything to back to the original state.

That's super good. I'm just thinking I lost it. That would be what my first. In our household, something is always lost.

Yeah. Oh, totally.

Like wallets. Wallets get lost a lot. So as you've gone through this journey and you've met with a lot of different people, like you said, you've done these surveys, how much time do people spend on their phone? Do you get feedback from anyone that the impact that this has had on them thus far? I mean, you obviously have your own personal journey that you can share, but what's the feedback that you're getting from people in terms of what's different with their life now?

Yeah. So on the numbers side, what we're seeing is just that additional little bit amount of friction. You could have reduced your screen time 50 to 75%. And the reason why is, is like our phones are trying to be addictive. Actually, just in our time here, I've gotten seven notifications on my phone, trying to make me pick up my phone. So actually for the rest of this time, I'm just going to scan this on and use it so it doesn't bother me. You set it and forget it. That's what we've seen. Is that just that additional friction, like 50% less screen time. What gets me excited is what can you be investing that time in? One thing that I didn't expect is like, I hear about marriages being saved because husband and wife are on their phones in their bed. They're, they're talking to each other, they're recapping the night they're going to sleep because people, they call it doom. Scrolling where you're just sitting at night and scrolling in your bed. Right. Where if you just didn't have that light on, you probably would get two hours more sleep by just not having that there. So my wife used to just keep the phone in the kitchen when we went to bed, but now she just scans it and she can leave it there because she knows it's not going to be buzzing all night long and.

She can still get the things that she needs. That's what we do, too. Most of the day my phone is on silent or vibrate because I'm in meetings and the phone is ringing. And spam. The alternative to that is, hey, mom, your phone is not on or it's you didn't know that we called. So we do try to, I think as technology has evolved, we do try to keep putting these things in place. Right. So that the tool becomes just a tool. I do think it's a little bit harder, I guess I was just thinking as you were talking about the grace and how we tend to shame ourselves a lot more unnecessarily than we should. I think when we're like, well, I failed or I should have done. But I think as you were sharing one of the parts that you said phones are designed, right. They're designed with an intention of us to hold them and to look at them like that's the point. And I think about 50 years ago or even 40 years ago or whatever, when I was younger, maybe even where telephones were not was just a device, it was on the wall and we picked it up and we used it when we needed it and put it back down. But that's not how they're designed today.

No. And to that point, one of the really the driving motivators, just being in the tech world, I get the behind the scenes understanding of how these tech companies are trying to make us addicted. So there's this book out there called Hooked that talks about all the different tactics and things that we don't even know that they're doing to make sure we're picking up the phone. Apple did this maybe two or three years ago, but now the screen never turns off. It's always dimly lit so that you can see the top. But really it's just so that your eyes can be looking at it. Right. I think Apple's a trillion dollar company investing in you to pick up your phone. So to your point about shaming, you're battling a behemoth there. There's no shame in once you know you want to make a change, then making that change and implementing these safeguards so that we don't fall into these kinds of addictive habits. It's the same thing with like our food and the food industry and the food complex. It's like all the sugar that they're putting in the food unnecessarily, it's to make us addicted. Right. And so this is kind of my anti establishment rebellion against that.

But I think it's super important. I mean, we have, like I said, we have four kids and I grew up with kids in the Snapchat era, for example, and I would watch them in the morning, so they would get up and first thing they would turn on their phones and it was Just feed after feed after feed after feed, just coming at them. And there were moments where I was like, there's so much data coming at you, so much information that you don't even realize how fast you're sucking it in. You don't realize how fast your brain is looking at all these things and hearing all these sounds. And, and it's just like. And then you wonder, why am I so overwhelmed? Or why do I have anxiety or why am I struggling with all of these self image issues and my identity issues and all this kinds of stuff. Right? So over the years we've tried to really work with our kids as much as we have have learned because we're not experts by any means. But as we learn these things, my husband and I work in the tech industry too. So we've, you know, done this for 30 years. So we're in the same place too. We're like, no, this is by design. These things are by design. It is, I don't know, just the empathy of it. I think I would offer to anyone who's listening, who struggles and is like, I try to put it down, but I can't. Or I've not really realized the consumption mindset or consumer mindset that I'm up against.

And to your point, that really made me try to biblically understand what it means to Sabbath. Well, right, because you're talking about like anxiety and feeling overwhelmed. And I'm like, well, that's the purpose of the Sabbath is to give us rest. Right. And so that's how Sabbath space got named. But being a theological student, I wanted to know kind of what God said. And so I did a really in depth study on what Sabbath is. And one thing that I thought was super interesting and funny is that God calls us to Sabbath one day a week, but we have two day weekends. And I'm like, wait a second, how do we get in our society in our time, we have two days a week, but yet we're still overworked or like overly anxious. This doesn't make sense. We have two days. We have it better than what God says, necessarily. And then I realized, oh, it's because I'm actually never away from work because of my phone. So rather than working five days, I probably work 24, 7 because I'm always connected.

Yeah, so you're working more than you really realize that you are.

Exactly. And you're working when you shouldn't be working. Right. You're working when at dinner or when the email comes through and you're working when Quiet time should be happening, right? And that's why we have this feeling of never being away from work or being burnt out because it's Sunday and we're still. We're looking at, you know, work emails, right?

I think a lot of that with modern technology as a whole. So we talk about electricity and we work during the day when the sun was up and then the sun went down and we went to bed. And like you said, there's a rhythm, there's a natural rhythm to all of these things. And that's kind of all gone now. So we have 24. 7 electricity, we have 24. 7 access to the world. We have voices coming in everywhere, all the time. I do agree with you too. I think there's a great power in being present. And I think a lot in the Christian spaces we kind of shy away from mindfulness. We kind of get into these weird conversations if it's biblical or not. But I truly believe that practicing presence and being present in the moment, that place of just releasing peace, be still. And that is so important. And it trains our mind and our spirit, right? And just to be present in the moment. And I think that's good. I was just talking with someone earlier today and John Eldredge wrote his book get yout Life Back. And he talks about in that book about how our souls are not infinite beings. God is infinite, but we are not, right? We're finite beings, our souls, our minds, same thing. And so there has to come to this place where we have to release and we just have to acknowledge and realize that God did not intend for us to live in this 247 wide open as we like to say in North Carolina life.

I guess one of my hot takes is actually that I work six days a week now because that's what God called us to do. But then I hardcore intentionally rest on that seventh day. There's nothing that's going to come in on my Sabbath that's going to be work related, right? And so when we're super intentional about our work, we can be super intentional about our rest and vice versa, right? And so it's kind of like I crossfit in the morning and that's the hardest thing I do all day. And so then everything else is going to be easier after that. And so that's kind of how I think about the week is like if I really intentionally Sabbath on Sunday, I'm preparing myself for the rest of the week.

What does an intentional Sabbath look like for you in this season of your life? Is your Son, too. Is that how old he is now?

Yeah, he's two years old. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's a busy time with a toddler. What does Sabbath look like for you?

Yeah. So when I say I work six days a week, what I mean is I work five days a week, but I do, like, family work on Saturdays. So we actually, in my family, really focusing in on scheduling our weekends, which is interesting. So we tried to pack all of our extended family events on Saturdays. We try to put everything in on Saturday that we can so that we can truly Sabbath on Sunday and do only what we want and nothing else. Right. So really making that time sacred. So we go on walks on the beach, we go to the park. We're disconnected. We spend time cooking dinner, having a nice family dinner, and doing some family worship. That's basically what Sabbath looks like for us.

I think that's really great. I think sometimes we think of Sabbath as all the things you don't do. But I think it's also, like you said, holding space for all the things that bring you renewal and bring you, like you said, rest and restoration in him. And that looks different than just laying in the space. Sometimes it's laying in the grass, I'm sure, and just soaking on the sun and taking a nap.

To that point, me being in the tech world and my wife being in ministry and worship, her Sabbath is like songwriting. So she uses the app to songwrite, which is pretty neat. So she puts her phone aside, and then it gives her the mental space to actually invest in her songwriting. So, yeah, that's pretty cool.

Well, that's super good. So how can people get Sabbath space? How do they access that?

Yeah, so you can download the app and just search in the Apple Store Sabbath space. Or you can go to the website Sabbath Space IO, because that's how you're gonna subscribe, and that's how you're gonna get the keychain. We mail it to you. And then we also are starting to sell that tableside stand, which is a new thing that we're really excited about.

Yeah, that's cool. Do you have. This is a different question. I'm digressing again. My mind is, like, my entrepreneur mind is going in 12 places. But are you guys building those things in house or do you have a small team, a distribution team that's making all these things for you guys and.

Yeah, so we're making them. And basically it's called, like, an NFC chip, so you can embed these things and different things. Right. And so we're working with manufacturers to build it out and to, like, apply the app link in there and all that. And then actually, to your point, I'm really excited about. As we start to roll this out, because it's new. It's just been launched for, like, two weeks now for individuals. We want to actually take this into churches, and we want to hopefully bring this into Sunday morning church services where we'll have a Sabbath space device behind church chair. Because I go to church, I see everybody on their phone during service. Right. And so rather than that, scan your phone, leave the Bible app on if you need that. Right. And then you're good and you're not distracted. So we're. I'm excited about that. That's something that we're hopefully gonna be working on this year.

Yeah, I love that. I think it's just giving people lots of different tools, whatever they can put into their toolkit or like we've talked about before, it's not a shame thing. Right? It's not. Because we spend so much time, I think, in our life and telling ourselves about all the things that we should have done different or I do think there's a great destruction in that, in our mindset as we grow. So I think that's really cool. Just all the tools that you need in your toolkit to kind of be a little bit better today than yesterday. So if you had to cast a vision for five to 10 years down the road, where would you like for this to go? What's the impact that you would hope to make on the world?

So I was actually thinking about this this past weekend. I would love for there to be, like, a Sabbath space community. And I think we're going to probably eventually launch a newsletter where we can. We're taking care of the issue of our time being stolen from us, but how do we invest our time? Well, so that's what I think the newsletter would be all about, is helping people spend their time in their different ways. Because, like you said, a lot of people might not know how to use their time. My wife is a great example to be songwriting. And that's her Sabbath.

Right, Right. I think that was a powerful thing. Just when you were talking. I think that would be so good because it really does open up the world of all of the different ways that you can. And like, we started when we talked about, like, every dot matters. Right. Our job, I believe, as Christians, is to let all of God live through all of us. And he is in. Right. All the things he's in the rest of course. But he's also in the joy and the laughter and in all the pieces and parts and helping and serving and loving. And so Sabbath can be much more richer experience of his love. I think too, it would be really cool. I think the community idea is great because then you could share and there'd be a place for people to kind of come and like the well. Creating the well where people can come and say, I'm struggling with this piece and somebody else like you saying, yeah, I did too, and here's how it's working for me. I think that's so important. Well, where can people find you? You just talked about the Sabbath Faith IO website. Is there any other information that you would want to share about how they can connect with you if they have questions?

Yeah, I mean if you want to connect with me professionally, you can reach out on LinkedIn, but the Sabbath space Contact us form comes directly to me. So I'll reply. I'm pretty fast replying on email. So. Except on Sundays.

So except on Sundays. That's so good. That's your little tagline. Except on Sundays. So here's my last question that I like to ask guests when they come on the show. Eric, so how do you, as a husband and father and a man of faith, how do you keep showing up every day even when it hurts?

That's a really good question. So I guess to come back to where it started about God being sovereign, even the hurt is ordained, right? Even everything is a part of God's plan. So if it's a painful event in life, then there's a lesson in there, right? God's trying to make you more Christlike through that of event or situation or whatever it is. And if we know he's sovereign and he's for us and he loves us, then we can tackle those tough moments that way.

That's so good. Thank you for sharing that today. It's been a blessing. Thank you. Thank you.

Thanks for having me.

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