Business Q&A + League of Legends Ep. #36 ft. @RishyCupTV

In this live‑stream, host Evan Carmichael plays League of Legends with guest Jason “JRice” Fonseca while co‑host Rishi Cupp fields a series of audience‑submitted business questions. The conversation weaves together gameplay commentary with practical entrepreneurship advice. Key discussions include: the concept of “core selling” – selling what you stand for rather than just a product; the value of impact‑first businesses versus profit‑first models; how artists can articulate the emotional story behind their work to drive sales; strategies for influencer outreach that leverage unique personal talents; why seeking sponsorship is less effective than self‑funding and hustling to get the first client; guidance for a Bangladeshi entrepreneur needing a business plan for a hair salon, emphasizing industry experience over outsourced plans; advice for a South African app founder stuck for three years, urging partnership with the right technical co‑founder and rapid MVP testing; and a brief motivational wrap‑up encouraging viewers to stay present, define their “one word,” and pursue impact‑driven ventures. Throughout, the hosts intersperse gaming updates, humor, and audience shout‑outs, creating an informal yet instructional atmosphere.
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Welcome everybody to another business Q&A on League of Legends. I'm going to play League of Legends with Jason "JRice" Fonseca in the house and answer some business questions with Rishi Cupp TV. How you doing, Rishi?
I'm happy. I'm doing— I'm happy. I'm a little bit tired today, but not tired like I'm not excited to be here.
But not tired that you're— was it delirious? What were you the other day? Giddy?
Silly? Gosh, I think I was— yeah, was I tired all week? That's kind of sad. I don't mean to be tired all day this week, but it has been a very intense last week. But I love you guys. I'm happy to be here all the time, whether I'm tired or not.
All right. Well, what's in the cup today?
I got my cup of Bustelo, my Spanish— French? My Spanish coffee, my café con leche. And I'm feeling a cup of present. One of the things I'm working on right now is to just be more present and not fall into future thinking or thinking too much in the past, but being really present. That's what I'm working on today, I know, and continually, hopefully. Cup of present.
I like it. Cup of present. I like it. Um, cool. We'll shout out in the Twitch chat. We've got Last Minute Louie, Jen So Much, Believe Team is me, Rishi Cup, of course, Rise Online. We'll see when everybody else shows up. I've got my usual 5 drinks, my, uh, My zen— no, my yogi. This is the last yogi tea in the box, so I may have to find something else for next time. I'll bring you some metal tea. Thank you. The yogi message of the day is: act, don't react. I like it. I like it. It ties into the no crisis business philosophy where you're being proactive in planning what you're doing instead of just reacting to other people's emergencies. I have my pumpkin spice latte courtesy of JRise.
Wow, you got like the full deal today.
It's on, it's on. Jay's going back to the mid experiment, so the support sona experiment we're gonna chalk up to a test, and we're going back to our tried and true, and we'll see how it goes. Well, let's get into it. What's our first question?
Okay, cool. And I'm sorry, I just have to say, I mean, how cool is it that you have like every day a message in your cup? I mean, that's just the coolest thing ever.
I like it. I resonate with it. Yeah, I didn't even notice the first time. First couple, first tons of times, I guess I didn't notice, but I like the extra little bit of love on the— now I look forward to getting my little message.
Love it. Alright, so we're going to start off actually with not a question, it's just an awesome comment. I think it's going to uplift you, Evan. I think it's going to uplift everybody in Believe Nation because this is just an inspirational story about how you're making an impact.
Okay.
So this is from Debbie and she says, Evan, I just want to let you know that I love your videos and find you This is so inspirational. She says, "Believe has always been my motto ever since I ditched my corporate NYC job on 9/11/2001 and followed my passion of painting. I have been spending the last few months pivoting my local decorative painting business into a growing online art business. At the same time," I'm still pursuing my local NYC market, interior designers, and trying to find high-end collectors for my abstract, coastal, sophisticated paintings. My new website is almost ready to go. I'm going to start Facebook ads, and every time I get an email from you, it reenergizes me and keeps me motivated to keep trucking along. I believe in my journey and hoping to reach my goal of selling 10,000 of art, $10,000 worth of art per month, so I can continue to give back, but in a much bigger way to help those that need it. Thanks for doing what you do. And when I think I can't do it, starting from almost nothing, I am reminded that you said in the beginning you had no listeners or followers, but you never stopped. That's always in my mind. Thank you for allowing me to continue to believe Debbie. Warm regards, Debbie.
Wow, a lot of love there.
I love that. Isn't that beautiful?
That's awesome. Thank you, Debbie.
I love it too because— yeah, I love it too just because, um, I think it's inspirational to hear someone who, who, you know, obviously, uh, 9/11, um, caused a lot of people to reevaluate a lot. And sounds like, um, She really made changes that felt right for her and I just like hearing that someone took that leap and actually did it. I mean, so few people do that, so I think that's so cool.
How can we help Debbie get to $10,000 a month in sales for her art so she can continue to help people? What do you think? Oh, ooh. Let's give Debbie some more value for reward the, uh, the love.
Reward it. Yeah, I think that that's, that's an awesome, awesome thing. Um, so what she's trying to do online is she said $10,000 of art per month. Well, I, I would want to just find out more about maybe what her market is. I don't, I don't know, Evan. You're gonna have to answer that one because I, I know you've got so much more knowledge in the art, how to profit from your visual art.
All right, cool. I'll go, I'll go on it. I'm, uh, something exciting just happened in the game too, which is, which I want to tell a quick story about.
Oh, cool.
So I'm lined up as jungle, and Jay is lined up as mid, and he was going back to mid after the kind of failed support experiment. He's never banned. And so he picked Viktor, who's his go-to mid champion. He's never banned. And the enemy team banned him So he's not allowed to play Viktor. And so he's picking Ryze. There's an actual champion in the game called Ryze. And it's spelled the same way that J-Ryze is spelled, just without the J dash. And he's been practicing Ryze. And now he's gotta— he wasn't ready to bust it out on stream because he wanted to be a little more proficient with it, but Now he just locked him in, so he's gonna play Ryze. I'm kind of reminded of my Eve experiment, and that did really well for us. So Jay, this could be— Jay Ryze playing Ryze, I feel, might be a good thing.
This is amazing.
Yeah, so yes, that's my little story. Okay, in talking about the art world, I think, I think the concept of core selling is super important, almost more important than a lot of other industries. Let me just get my team out here. And the idea of core selling is, you know, what are you— you're selling what you stand for as opposed to just selling your products or services or the benefits associated with it. A lot of people can't understand art, you know, you need to explain what your art means. Right? If I look at a painting, it might be hard for me just to say, "Oh, that's a really good painting. I'm gonna go buy that thing." But if I know that you— so, you know, you left your job and started to go all in on yourself after 9/11. So I don't know what the theme is to you, like what your one word is, what you're all about. If it's overcome, if it's challenge, if it's, you know, something around betting on yourself, if it's confidence, if it's passion, you know, whatever it is, you know, if you're capturing that spirit of doing your thing and being in the moment now and not waiting for the future, like if that's what your theme is all about, since that's what you did with your business, if that's expressed in your paintings, whatever is expressed, like a good painting, a A good piece of music, any piece of art is only great if there's emotion in it. Right? Like a good painter expresses emotion through their art. The challenge is you can't always see that emotion. If I'm emotional, I get all excited and I'm yelling and ranting, you'll see it very clearly. You'll see it clearly. If there's a singer who's singing their song And you know, you could tell they're almost on the verge of breaking down because it's so sad, because it's a love song, or it's, you know, they lost somebody. You feel that emotion with them. Painting is harder because you're pouring your guts out onto this canvas, and you're having an emotional connection and emotional reaction, or you should. If you say, "I'm just going to paint the bird today," great. That's not— you could do better. But the person seeing it can't understand that connection. And so it's on you to explain it. Tell me what I'm looking at. Tell me why you're here to do what you do. And I get that you're on a mission and you want to help people and it comes across in your message and you're loving and considerate. And so letting people know that. What is the mission that you're on? How do you express it through the art? So that I can own a piece of that, right? So that if I am, you know, the person who hasn't bet on himself yet, or I want to continue to remind myself to bet on myself and take those risks or take that chance, or whatever it is that you stand for, then by having your thing on the wall, That's a constant inspiration to me. But if I don't know what I'm looking at and it's just a nice piece of art, you know, it looks nice, then it's a lot harder to get that sale. And the impact that you want— like, you can impact people through a lot more than just making $10,000 a month, right? You can impact people through the work. Through every time they look at— like, I walk in here, the, you know, the people behind me, that those canvases that J-Rice helped me actually make, uh, those mean something to me. And they're just faces on the wall, but the faces represent something. They represent something powerful to me when I walk in the room. Your art needs to represent something, and it does to you. But you have to express that to others so that I want to sign up and I want to buy your thing because I know what you stand for. So core selling, decide to apply it, it's powerful.
You know, Evan, and I know everybody hears you talk about the— well, not everybody, those who keep following hear the core selling. And I really, I just have to say like, this kind of sounds silly, but it really is truly like the difference between, you know, I don't have— how do I go? I'm having a hard time speaking today.
Silly Rishi, it's Silly Rishi day.
Okay, I feel like one of the things, it's why I respect your approach 10 times more than what I see in so many others because like these, I'm gonna just call it like an impact-based business. I don't know if that term is already out there, but like when you're going for impact first and foremost, which I know, which is what you're all about, it's just so much more powerful. And then you make decisions, not that you don't need money and that that obviously will be a natural byproduct, but when you put the impact piece first, the— it's like the difference, in my opinion, it's the difference between a good, a great business and an extraordinary business.
Um, using— you're using Mark Drager's word there. I like it. Oh, that's his word, extraordinary.
So yeah, I really think that is the, the huge difference, but people I don't think are willing sometimes to wait for I think the impact business might not happen in the same speed that a business would, you know, like the goal of impact might take longer than the goal of, say, $10,000, but the power behind the impact business is so much greater. I don't know, just some thoughts. I think it's the way I wanna, Do things.
Yeah, and even look at what happened there, right? Like, she sent a lot of love. She didn't ask a question. She just wanted to spread some positive vibes and say thank you. So like, maybe gratitude is her one word, or appreciation is her one word, or whatever, right? And what happened? Like, we then sat and talked about how she might be able to improve her business. Like she had an impact on us through her comment, didn't ask for anything and received. And so leveraging that more, like if it's appreciation or gratitude or again, like understanding what it is that you stand for and then doing that as much as possible, good things will come.
Fabulous.
Our team is losing already, so let's see how we do. Uh, it's okay, it's an early start. Both of our characters, both Jay and mine, scale pretty hard, so we're not great early but we're good late. So if we can stall this game out, we're gonna— that's how we're gonna win. Know your win conditions. In business too, know how you're gonna win and play to that. We're gonna win by hanging around and winning the late game, so that's what we need to make sure we do.
Hey, speaking of impact, yeah, I'm really excited to go back and watch your influencer marketing video because this is something that we talk a lot in the live stream. It's like, how do you get on the radar, radar of influencers? I'm super excited to watch that, and I'm I'm kind of curious to hear what she says. Anyway, that's as much as I know. [Speaker:JOSH] Yeah, that was interesting.
Yeah, that was a good chat. It's worth going back and watching. We had a good live audience too on that. It ended up being the only Hangout, the only extra Hangout I did yesterday, but it was fun. I kind of miss it now. It's like, only one Hangout? What's happening? Miss you guys, let's make this one count.
Yeah, but I think it's like a perfect example of like, I don't know what she ended up saying. I, you know, I've never heard anyone officially say influencer marketing, but I know that one of the best ways to, you know, connect with influencers is to just be grateful, tell them how you've impacted them. And so it makes me think of that. Video. Yeah, I can't wait to—
another thing we talked about, this applies to kind of the artists and creatives, is using your art as a way to express gratitude or to stand out in a way that only you can. And I use the example of there was a woman who wanted to get on Gary Vaynerchuk's radar and he just had his new book out and she was, she could also sing and so she sang a book review. Right? So I'm gonna give Butlin a pink here, Jay. Hopefully they don't die. She sang a book review where everybody's giving book reviews and everybody's saying how great it is and on and on and on, right? So like you're one of many Awesome. But she's the only one now who was singing it, and so it's different and unique, right? Makes her stand out. And so whatever your talents are, whatever your artistry is, inject that into the outreach. And after that conversation, Alex was over during the day, was listening in, and he was talking about how he wants— he He loves Kevin Hart. He wants to get on Kevin Hart's radar and like he watches Kevin Hart's Snapchat and you know, he's like, he's all about Kevin Hart, which is great. And he's trying to figure out how do we get Kevin Hart to— it's like, it's my birthday. Yesterday was Alex's birthday. You think if I message Kevin Hart and say, hey Kevin, it's my birthday, he'll send me like a message back. Maybe, but like you could do a lot better than that too. Where, you know, Kevin has a new movie that's coming out. I think it came out today. I'm not 100% sure, but it's coming out this weekend if it's not out today already. You know, Alex knows how to salsa dance, right? So instead of just making a video that anybody else can make, why not make a salsa dancing video about his new movie coming out. Take the theme song of the movie and do a salsa routine, or take, you know, his fiancée and flip her in the air to the theme song. Like, something that if he saw would be different. It's not what everybody else is doing, right? Like, he'll see that and say, this crazy kid from Canada is flipping his wife all in the air. And, you know, I don't know how Kevin Hart actually talks, so I'm just making that up, but Like something that he would love, right? Something that stands out. Because if somebody, you know, when people have made tributes to me using their art style, I've always done my best to try to kind of highlight and appreciate them and showcase it off. It stands out. Where sometimes the comments don't. Like, you know, the comment that we got today that we highlighted was extra special and filled with love. We also get, like, I get a ton of those too, which I'm very fortunate about. But when you go the extra mile and put in, you know, like, there was the blind artist who made a piece of art for me, you know, did a portrait of me, you know, that stands out. There's people who've written songs. There's the whole Evanman Spider-Man song saga that I had to I had to put an end to because people just kept going on with Evan, man.
So funny.
So just, you know, if you want to stand out, not just doing what everybody else can do. Like, I could, I guess, make a painting of somebody, but it wouldn't be impressive. It wouldn't wow anybody because I don't have that skill. But doing something that you can do, even if you don't have an audience, you know, even if you don't have people to promote them to, doing something that you can do based on your artistic talents. And you're talented at something. If you're a programmer, you know, make me an Evan Carmichael program, or make the Kevin Hart, you know, movie program app, or some of his favorite quotes, or whatever it is. You know, you can use your talents to really stand out and show your appreciation. That gets you on the map. So that— I don't know how we got onto that segue, but, uh, I liked it.
I liked it.
I know, because Rishi was talking about— yeah, influencers, the video, right? That's how we got there. You never know what's gonna happen. You never know what's gonna happen on the live stream. Wow, our team is losing so badly. It's 6 to 1. I zoned out on that conversation and we dropped another 5 kills.
You have to stay in the present, Evan Carmichael.
I was very much in the now, but we just lost another one, so we're 7.
Is that what happens when you're in the present? Everything else falls to the wayside.
J is O, O and O. OK, so it's— Fantasia is down. Yeah, well, we're battling, guys. We're battling. This is it. Let's see how we do. All right, next question. What do we got?
Cool. It was funny. I have to say this. I zoned out in what you were saying, too. And I completely neglected the chat, the live chat. So I'm just making sure we're not missing anything there. Evan Munz, Evan Munz does whatever he believes. Someone's singing in the chat. Evan Munz.
Is it Last Minute Louie?
It's Zaino.
Oh, nice. Always love for Zaino.
Okay. Alrighty, so next question comes from—
oh wow, they're botting it. All showed up.
I can't wait to read this one, Evan, because every once in a while we get emails like this and I just have to read it because I just have a cup of question mark. Anyway, it says, "Thank you, my dear, but I'm looking for sponsorship to start my business, dear." All right, lots of dear. That was it. That's the question.
I'm looking for sponsorship to start my business?
Yes.
All right.
So I don't know— yeah, I don't know what business you're in. Oh, this is from Patrick. I'm sorry, I didn't say the name. Sponsorship to start your business. Well, you know, I think the main thing that you want to think about if you're looking for a sponsorship is that you want to be as mindful about what is of value to them as much as you want. Value that they bring to you, they are obviously going to want a relationship that is mutually beneficial. So that can be different things depending on potential sponsors. Like in YouTube, sponsors are going to be interested in things like your audience, how big your audience is. Are they going to get— is them sponsoring you going to get the word out on them? And then I know that sponsors too, they want to know that you really care about, you know, about them, that you really do genuinely like what they're doing and value their product or whatever it is that they're doing. It's like they want to know that you really do have a genuine interest. In seeing them succeed, and that just comes, in my opinion, from genuinely liking and believing in what it is that they do. So, it depends on— yeah, I guess it just depends on— in terms of the details of how to go after that, I think it depends on what business you're doing and in, but I think those are some just foundational things is what do you have to add value to them? And do you really like— do you really like what they are, who they are, and what they are, you know, what they're about as well?
You took a different approach than I was going to take, so I just want to make sure I'm thinking clearly. Can you read the question back? I know it's super short.
Well, I think it's just saying he just made a statement. I am looking for sponsorship to start a business, and I think, uh, okay, okay, yeah, okay.
You're not going to get a sponsor to start your business. You need to go sponsor yourself to start your business.
Preach!
Like It's back to the funding, you know, issues from before where like nobody's coming to save your business. You can't just not start because there's no— what happened? Your lane? Your— Jay's upset. Something's happening. Come on, someone do something. Jay's upset. Jesus Christ. Oh, almost got top. Very sad. Um. Like, you need to just go start. You got to find a small way to get started and not wait for somebody to come and give you money. Like, nobody is coming to give you money to start a business.
Mm-hmm.
And so don't sit there and wait for that to happen before you do anything. You got to go out and hustle. Invest your time, invest your energy, invest your heart, invest your hustle. Go try to get your first client, make a little bit of money, pour that back into the company, make some more money, right? The team, the team, the team. This is a— my teammates are now intentionally killing themselves. So this is going to be a hard one to This is gonna be a hard one to pull through. But yeah, and for everybody watching, like, don't wait and just try to find an investor. You have to go out and do it. Yeah, you're not getting startup funding. Your startup funding is your heart. And it's because I don't want you to waste your time, and I don't want you to do nothing, which is what most people do. I'm not gonna start my business until— and it's not just money— until, until whatever, until fill in the blank, until this happens, I'm not gonna start my business. And then that thing never happens, so you never start your business.
Yeah.
So if this is a dream of yours, I want to make sure that you actually can do something about it. So find a small way and get started. That's it, that's what I got.
Nice. Love it. All right, next question comes from Monira. Monira. Monira. Monira says, hi Evan, I'm trying my best to have start a startup company. a top-end hair salon. Finding someone to write a business plan became impossible. Neither I have any experience in this industry nor an MBA to write a business plan. I just jot down ideas, which basically describe the purpose of the project. Can you help me recommend a person who can give me a consultant service? Life is very difficult in Bangladesh, especially One is a woman, so she's looking for someone to consult her in regards to a business plan. She's in Bangladesh, and she's having a hard time finding that next step of help. All right. I think, you know, there's so many other ways to model model people who are doing what you're doing, even if they are not physically where you are. It may not be that you can find someone in Bangladesh who can write it out for you, but I guarantee with some time and research, Evan, you may have some people on your channel. I don't know if there's anyone who's in the in that industry. But even if it's not specifically a hair salon, you can likely find someone who's in just a similar market that you can begin to learn right now how they did it, how they got started. Because I just think that Similar to the previous question, like, we can think we have to have all of this stuff in place before we can start. And I think that it's not wrong to get a plan, but I do think that you have an ability to find out information today by finding out what other people have done. And I mean, it's amazing what you can do with just hunger and a desire to learn and the internet. But I think, I think that's a good place to start because you may not immediately have this business plan figured out, but what I think you will learn is by hearing what other people have done and learning the business of the hair salon via what others have done, it— what it does is it starts to give you more ideas specific to how you want to make an impact. And the more specific you are about how your hair salon is different and what you want to do differently and uniquely, the more you get to that, I think then the easier it will be to then make a business plan because you'll know exactly what you want to do and There you go. That's it.
The world according to Rishi. I like it. Yeah, I don't think you should hire somebody to make your business plan. First of all, it's understanding there's a couple reasons why you want a business plan. And so I don't know if it's for your own, like if you, if it's for you to actually run the company, or if it's because you're trying to get investment. You need a business plan for that or what the reason is, but here's why it's not great to have somebody else write your business plan because you need to execute the business plan. And if you don't know enough to write the business plan, then you're not going to know enough to execute the business plan. And so what you really need to have is more experience in the industry. So to Rishi's point about modeling success and finding, you know, getting some experience It's super important. In my mastermind meeting last night, I had a member who was wanting to grow her business. She said, "Okay, I'm going to hire salespeople. I want to get somebody to go out and sell my stuff." Uh-oh, there's a big fight. The cha— can I get there? Save Jay! Save Jay! All right, we saved Jay. I think he probably would have got out anyway, but I feel like I contributed. Oh, die, die! Yeah, double kill Teemo!
Woo!
Teemo doing work! Triple, triple, triple kill Teemo! Get that! Yeah, Teemo's doing work! All right, Teemo's doing work. That was, that was pretty exciting. That was, um, sorry guys, I just owned out there. I was Exciting. Okay, so one of the members, one of the members was gonna hire— okay, my— I'm gonna expand by hiring salespeople, and that's how I'm gonna grow my business. And it can be a great way to grow business, nothing wrong with that necessarily. Just she doesn't know, she doesn't sell, and she can't manage a salesperson. She wouldn't know what to tell them. Like, if it's not going well, she can't guide them and mentor them. And just wants that salesperson to be totally self-sufficient. And that's not gonna happen. You know, like imagine put you're in that position. You're working for a boss who can't give you any guidance or mentorship and when you're failing, it's basically just all on you to figure it out. Nobody wants to work for that person. And so it sounds like an easy solution. But it's not the thing that can work for her. So she needs to do something else, and luckily there's other strategies that she can use that are more attuned to her abilities, and that's where she'll have success. So you need to know how to make the business a success, right? Which a business plan, that's basically what it is, right? Here's how my business is going to be successful. And if you don't know and you need to go hire somebody, then you won't know how to execute on that plan, right? Like, great, here's this perfect business plan, but if you don't know how to do the things in the business plan, then it's not going to work for you. It's just going to be a waste of money doing it. And then also, you know, probably a bigger waste of money because It's going to call for you to spend money on setting up this hair salon. You don't just set up a hair salon for free, and if you don't know what you're doing, you're going to make a lot of mistakes and lose a lot of money, and that I don't want to happen for you. So the answer is you need to be able to get to the point where you know enough about the business to be able to make the plan yourself and have confidence that it's going to work out. What is that Thresh doing? Our teammates are— they're feeding. They're feeding hard, like intentionally feeding. It's crazy. Who does that? Anyway, yeah, anyway, so that's my thought. And I mean, it ties into what Rishi's saying too about go get some experience and go learn from people who've been done it, if it's inside your industry or some kind of related field, it's super important. You have to know that it's going to work, or at least have a pretty good idea of how your business works before you get into a business. It's like, hey guys, I'm going to start a t-shirt business, but I have no idea how a t-shirt business works, but I'm going to spend money on t-shirts and everything else around it. Yeah. And hopefully that works out, but I'm not sure. You know, it's not to make fun, it's care. Like, I don't want you to lose money. I want this to work out for you. I want to see this hair salon be an amazing success for you. And so it may be going to work for another hair salon at the start. Learn the industry, have some confidence that when you launch it's going to be successful, and then you can write your own business That's what I got. Nice.
Nice, nice. All right. Looking at the chat, we got lots of chatter, lots of chatter. It looks like it's all chatter chatter, nothing specific to our question. So it's all good.
They're adding value to each other.
Yeah, everybody's chattering away.
I like it.
Yeah. All right. Next question is coming from Cecil or Cecil.
Cecil.
I love Cecil. Cecil. Yeah. Cecil says, Evan, hope you are well. My name is Cecil. I'm an aspiring businessman. I've been working on creating and launching a mobile app for the past 3 years that serves to educate and to offer career guidance services to South African youth. I've had the privilege to come across your company's services. I studied electrical engineering and currently working as a compliance investigator in the insurance industry. I have an eye for detail. I got this burning desire to get the app off the ground. I would like you to mentor me and help me build the app, parentheses, service agreement. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. Okay. So, yeah, we get a lot of app questions, people ready to launch and wanting different types of advice around the apps. And I think one of the things that we always, always, always say is if you are wanting to, you know, be successful in your app, absolutely make sure that you feel like this app is amazing and great because just like anything else, everybody is making apps and a lot of them are not good, you know. So make sure that it's an app that you 100% believe in. And that being said, he said this was like a 3 years ago plan. Generally speaking, how long does it take for one— I'm just asking, I don't know, Evan, if you have the answers, but like generally, how long does it take for one to complete that process of developing a new app. I mean, is it— I guess it depends on how complex the apps are. But I say that because sometimes we can also fall into this thing where we plan, plan, plan, plan, plan, and then we never actually start getting it into market. And so another piece of advice that, that we say is that once you've had your app out, make sure you are supremely aware and attentive to the users and how they are liking the app. So I don't— have you already begun providing a beta version that you can start to get people using it and giving you feedback? Because I think that's also hugely valuable, going back to the other point with our last question. Like, you can plan, plan, plan, and then put it out there and like nobody finds it valuable. And so I think having it out there with some users now is really valuable so that you can start getting feedback and make any adjustments or changes as you go to make that app great. I guess some of the other questions are specific to you, Evan, so I'll pass that on to you.
So it's been 3 years of trying to do this app?
Yeah, that kind of got my attention because I don't, you know, I don't I don't develop app software, but I feel like that feels a little long. Am I wrong about that?
Yeah, probably. No, you're not probably wrong. It's right. It shouldn't take that long. Oh, got the kill. Team was doing work. I'm 7 kills, 1 death. And my 1 death was to the monster instead of an enemy team. So, so far so good. Uh-oh. Maybe talk too soon. I'm about to die. Yeah, T will die. Very sad. That's what I get for saying how well I'm doing. Listen, it's the right idea. It's the wrong execution. It's the right idea. It's the wrong execution. And the idea is to get help. That is a long time. And what it basically means is like this person doesn't have the skills to do it. Whether it's actually building it or marketing it, feels there's something missing, which I totally get and understand. I am not your partner for this. And so that's what you need to go up and do is find who the right partner is for this. And stop waiting. Like, 3 years is a ridiculously long time. Get out there and build it. Find the person and go and build it. Oh, these guys are rough here. These guys are rough. So that's what I mean by right idea, just not the right execution. What are the skills that you have that make it a fit? You know, you're really good at just coming up with the app idea, you're going to go out and market it, you're going to actually develop it. If you could develop it, then why haven't you developed it yet? If you can't develop it, then you need to find the person who could help you develop it, or do a different business where you don't need a partner and you can do it all yourself. You know, like, stop, stop waiting. 3 years is— 3 years of no action is too long. And I love that you're reaching out and that you're trying to now go out and do it. But like I said, I am not the right partner for you. And so it's finding who that person is. Somebody, you know, somebody, somebody who you have a relationship with. Somebody who you can trust, somebody who, you know, you have the shared values with, that you feel the same vibe with. The last thing you want to do is jump into a partnership with your baby, with the thing that you really want to do, with some total stranger who you have no idea who they are. Right?
Mm-hmm.
So I love it. I wish you Tons of luck and success. It's the right idea, you just gotta find the right person.
Mm-hmm.
Good luck.
Good luck, Cecil. Okay, next question is coming from Marcin. Alright, Marcin. I'm just like, I don't know that I've ever gotten a name on these streams. I mean, I've heard so many names I've never heard ever, ever anywhere else. This is like—
I love it.
I thought my name was unique, but I'm not the only one. Okay. Hi Evan, I had a quick question. I have prototyped an amazing and truly unique app. That people all around the world will use every day. It will help them connect.
I think we may— we just lost. Our team surrendered, so—
oh, okay. Yeah, this is a little longer, so this might be better then.
Yeah, that's okay. Well, let's see, let's see what our final stats are here. I don't want to rush the question, so let's see how we do.
Yeah, yeah.
Um, I got an S, you know, I got an S. Great. Wait, I went 7-3. The team went, uh, what? The team went 9-31. Wow, the team went 9-31. It happens, it happens. Rishi, what's our— what do you want to— what do you want to end on? What's our Rishi inspiration of the day?
Inspiration of the day is, guys, consider, consider an impact— I'm gonna like make that word up if it doesn't exist— an impact-based business, which again, going back to core selling, versus a business that's driven by— I know it's gonna be, you know, I'm not saying don't don't want to be profitable. Obviously, that's what business is about, but consider impact— an impact business where you can change the world. What?
Why are you laughing?
I like it. It didn't come out as profound out of my mouth as it was in my head.
I thought it was pretty profound. I was feeling it.
Okay.
I was waiting to see where this was going. I like it.
Okay, yeah, well, that's— I would believe in it. I believe that.
All right, cool. All right, well, thanks for the fun, guys. Go Jays, go tonight. Cheer them on. 8 o'clock Eastern, I think, something like that. Game 1. Let's see how we do. Guys, thank you so much for joining in. Have an awesome close to the week. Go crush Friday, one more day, then the weekend is here, and then we get to crush Monday again and start all over. Thanks for the love and support. Continue to believe, or whatever your one word is, and I'll see you soon.
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