Business Q&A + League of Legends Ep. #41 ft. @RishyCupTV

What's up everybody? Happy Monday! It's time for another business Q&A while we play League of Legends. I'm excited. I actually don't have anything with me yet except my bottle of water. I got it, I got it. I woke up really early today and just kind of cleaned up and chilled and watched the sunrise, so I'm in a good mood today. I am joined by my usual co-host Rishi Cupp TV. Welcome back!

Hey Evan, good morning everyone. What's up, Believe Nation?

What's in the cup today?

I've got my Spanish coffee today and I am a little bit cup of frazzled only because I have my earphones that I had all ready for this chat and they've disappeared. But I'm good, I'm good, I'm happy to be here.

Cup of frazzled. Well, I just have a cup of water, and— but cup of gratitude for Alex, who's over and just offered to make me eggs. So, ah, gonna get some eggs soon, which will be exciting. I'm lining up with J-Rise. He wants to play Rise, so we're trying to set up a game. This should be fun. Team Unrise. Wait, are we on the streak? I feel like we are, right? We're on a streak. Did we win the last game? No, did we lose? I think we lost. No, we lost badly.

Yeah, we lost on Friday.

Yeah, we surrendered. That's terrible. Yeah, okay, new streak gonna start today. Let's see how we do.

Gotta get it started.

Gotta get it started. Let's shout out. Oh, oh, oh, I need to— oh, Jay's watching. I think he's watching. Trying the new idea you gave me today. So Jay and I were talking on Friday and he He wanted me to try a different item in my build, so I'm going to try that today and see what happens. Oh cool! See if it works out. Here's to trying things. Let's do some shoutouts in the chat. We got Soulforge2453, welcome! Zaino, Jen, Last Minute Louie, OptiSource Book. I love it, I love it, I love it. Alright, well we're trying to get a game set up here. We're in queue. Let's hit up some questions. What do we got? What's first?

Okay, Evan, we got a great first comment. It's not a question, but I think it's a great way to start this Monday morning. Um, so we've got Leave, or Liev, I might be saying that wrong, but she says, good morning Evan, thank you so much for this video, it gave me goose flesh. I'm assuming goose flesh, goosebumps.

I love it! Hashtag goose flesh.

Yeah, and she says, you are really great and I'm very grateful to you for all the videos you post, especially the top 10 rules for success. Uh, with your videos you give me much more than useful info for entrepreneurs. And she actually puts a list of the things that she wants to thank you for. So this is good coming right off out of the gratitude journal or gratitude, uh, stream. Yeah, he says, I get to know more and more about successful people. I get to know I get updates about what's going on in the world. I get a tremendous amount of joy from looking at the 10 Rules. And she says, I never watch the news, I never watch sports, but I capital L-O-V-E, love watching your videos of sports people. Sports people. And that's pretty much, she just, yeah, she just was, Really super grateful for the channel and the top 10. And I'll add to that, Evan, I noticed on your top 10 you've got a new kind of bumper, which is awesome.

Yeah, so J-Rise did that in collaboration. So he did all the visuals, and then there's another, uh, YouTube subscriber, uh, who did the audio for us. So they've been working together on a couple of things. Um, they did that, they did The 7 Ways series, uh, and I think they're working on some others. So yeah, I'm glad you liked it. It's good. I'm a big fan.

No, it's really good. It makes— it gets me excited to— I just love seeing where all of this is going, but it sounds like Liev is excited too, so.

Cool. Well, thank you for the kind words. That means a lot. Rishi, what's your favorite Top 10 video?

Wow. Oh my gosh. Okay, well, I always complain that I can't keep up. Like, I don't watch, especially like more than ever I'm upset because, you know, I've had some changes in schedule, so I'm not on as much as I, my heart wants to be on, and that's one of my biggest frustrations. But some that I've really been impacted by, I mean, you know that I, I love the Oprah Winfrey Top 10. I also love Elizabeth Gilbert's Top 10. Gosh, there's so many, but I've also missed a whole lot, so that might not be my final answer.

That's good. I like it. I feel it.

I started Tyrese's too, but I haven't been able to get past yet the first rule, but I'm gonna get through that video. I'm so excited.

Tyrese, Tyrese, the love-hate relationship. Yeah, that was great. I love that video. I just hate how long it took me to do it. Oh yeah, it's officially become the longest— the most amount of time I've ever put into a top 10 is that Tyrese video.

I didn't know, I didn't know though it was a love-hate thing. I thought it was just like you were just so like, you just loved it. Well, you did love it that much. That's why you took the time.

Yeah, and also I felt like I felt a sense of responsibility, right? Like I want to be proud of everybody that comes out and I felt like we weren't doing him justice with what we initially pulled. And so yeah, so I just did it. I spent 2 days doing it and fell behind on a whole bunch of other stuff, but I'm glad it's resonating. People are digging that video. There's a lot of great comments in there. So I'm glad people are feeling it.

Cool. Well, I hope he sees it. If he hasn't seen it, someone make sure he sees it.

Tweet him up. Tyrese, what's up? Tweet him up.

Absolutely. All right, well, you want to get the next question going?

Yeah, let's do it.

Nice. Got a lot of chatter going on right now about the top 10. People are kind of chiming in on their favorite top 10.

Oh, okay. What are some of your favorites?

Yeah, we've got the Ellen. You know, I don't think I've seen the Ellen one, which is bad. I would love to see that one. Uh, that comes from Optisource. She says, I love Ellen.

Um, that was good.

Let's see here. Yeah, we've got some other people saying love the Elizabeth Gilbert one as well. Uh, J.Lo, someone mentioned Prince. Prince J-Rose.

I like it.

Yeah, so super cool. Well, is that still your most watched, most viewed series, or has that changed since the last time I've heard from you on that?

In terms of series, it's the most viewed series. Okay. Because we do it, it's also like we do so many of them. But yeah, it's the most popular series.

That's awesome. Cool. All right. So the question, the next question comes from Mogisha. And Mogisha says, thanks so much, Evan. I want to be a wealthy businessman. But the problem is I have a lack of money. How can I reach what I want to be? All right. So, yeah, I think a lot of people put the cart before the horse and they want to be this and thing because it's kind of a cool thing, you know, be a wealthy businessman. On Friday we talked a lot about how entrepreneurship has become just a pop culture thing to do, and then people want to be entrepreneurs, but they don't actually— they're putting the cart before the horse. They don't actually even have an idea of how they want to add value and impact the world. And so anyway, I think this is the same thing. I don't think it's bad that you want to, you know, have a successful— be a successful business, but I would just say the best place to start is to not worry about the wealthy businessman part, but how would you want to improve the lives of the people around you. And, you know, are you wanting to do a service business or a product business? Just start there and then start adding value right now because you don't have to wait for anybody. You just start and that's that.

Yeah, just focus on the impact. If you look at the people who've had the most money and you look at— we cover this in the book, in the One Word book. The people who've had the most impact— sorry, the people who've made the most money are the ones who didn't have money as their main goal. It was, I wanted to change the way something was done. I wanted to create this thing that hasn't been done before. I'm so frustrated with how this industry is working, or I have this big problem myself that I want to solve. That's what— that's what motivates these entrepreneurs. Where if you just make money your goal, you're never going to get there because you're going to end up doing things just trying to make money that you're not super passionate about. And just, you got it, you got to do something that you're excited about. You got to do something you want to have to want to make a positive change somewhere in some industry to help some community to help some target market. You have to want to make that positive change and impact. You have to want it more than you want the money. Because it's going to be painful, then you want to do it anyway. Mm-hmm. And the money won't motivate you long enough to go out and do it. So you got to find that thing and make that thing your goal. That's what I got.

Evan, what do you think— what do you think about the whole adage, what would you do if you were never paid for it? I really like that, but do you Do you agree with that? Is that something that you live by?

Yeah, I mean, that comes from a lot of different famous entrepreneurs. The one that's most memorable to me is Oprah, who— actually, by the way, we're in game. I'm Teemo jungle, J-Rise is Ryze mid, so we're looking good. Oh, Alex, those eggs smell amazing. I don't know if he's listening. I think he might have headphones on. Just like this, it's just this place just filled up with a buttery smell that that's going to be really distracting.

Okay, um, I think I've got Nina and Alex.

I know. Hey, and Jay Rise usually brings me some, uh, specialty coffee on, on Fridays, so I'm spoiled and grateful. Um, uh, I think of Oprah, who, who, after doing her first kind of TV interview thing, said it felt like she was breathing for the first time. And then she said that she would find, you know, jobs just to make sure she could still do this. If she would never get paid to do it, she would still do it because she loved it so much. It felt like she was breathing, and she would do whatever she needed to do to keep going on that path. Lots of people said it in— Alex, those eggs smell amazing. I don't know if you heard me. Anyway, a lot of people have said it in a lot of different ways, but I agree. You want to find a thing that you would do even if you wouldn't get paid for it because you love it so much. It fills a much bigger purpose. It's kind of like, you know, I want to get married because I want to have kids. Well, that's not really the best reason to want to get married.

That's great, that's great.

And so, you know, focus on the other things first. Yes, you know, ideally you will have kids, but that's not the primary reason for wanting to pick, at least in my view. Maybe other people feel that way, but in my view, it's not the primary reason to want to get married to somebody. And so it's the same thing with your business idea. You want to pick the thing that you would do— you would be with that person even if you couldn't have kids, and you'd find another way. Maybe you adopt, or, you know, use a surrogate, or whatever the other options are. It's the same thing with business. If you focus just on the outcome instead of the process, you're not gonna have success.

Yeah, cool. All right, looks like the game is going.

Game is going. J-Rice just switched to top. I didn't see what happened or why he did that, but, uh, he is now top and I'm jungle. So we got some, uh, we got the game on here. So far, no, no kills, no deaths. We're all, we're all even.

Okay, here we go. Next question comes from—

Yep.

—Wernard. Wernard says, hey Evan, I just wanted to take the time and really thank you for that video. There are really a number of tips and advice I could use. My social and communication skills are not my strongest suit, so these videos really help. Me out a lot. I was wondering if you have or otherwise can make a video on closing skills, something to help us finalize that sale or to get more clients. I find so much worth in your videos. You inspire me, Evan. Thanks for that. Best regards, Warner.

All right, all right.

So, uh, you know, I, uh, definitely myself right now I'm learning a lot of new things, new things about sales And admittedly, it's not my comfort zone and not something that I feel super strong in. But what I'm hearing across the board as I'm learning from others who do it successfully is that, I mean, there's all this talk about the power of persuasion or the power of influence and all of that. But for me, what will make it work for me at the end of the day is believing in what it is that I'm selling and truly believing that what I'm selling is absolutely benefiting the person on the receiving end. That's— but I think that most salespeople who are really successful, that it comes down to that, that they truly believe that what they are doing is improving the lives of the people around them. And so I think when you start with that, it will influence how you deal with people. Evan, you can maybe share some— I don't know if you have specific closing techniques, but I would just imagine that every part of the sales process, for me at least, would feel, I think, more effective if I believe that the product is good and I want, and I absolutely believe that it will improve the lives of people. And hey, when you're excited about something, when you believe in something, it's kind of easy to then convince others to be a part of it too.

I love it. Let's do a quick pause, look at these eggs that Alex just brought in. Hello. That's some quality triple egg with some toast or whatever that is. I'm digging it. I'm on delay.

I haven't seen it yet.

Oh, it's coming up soon then. It's gonna come up soon. Uh, ooh.

Ooh, there they are. Wow, 3 of them. 3 eggs.

Some yum, yummy town. We're hitting the yummy town. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm trying to help J-Rise in a gank here. Can I do something? Can I do something? Yeah, we got a kill. J-Rise, good job. That's teamwork up top. Teamwork up top. Whoo! Liking that. Okay, good times, good times. Closing. So I think the best skill that you need to use is your ears. I think too many people are talking too much without gaining an understanding of what the customer actually needs. They will, you know, I 100% agree with Rishi in that, you know, I can passionately advocate for a product or service or solution when I absolutely believe that it's the best thing for them. And I think, I think a lot of people, uh, maybe don't even push hard enough on that on the sales side, but it's pushing not to, not to just try to make the sale and hit your quota. It's pushing to help them get past whatever comfort zone issues they're having with it. Like if you truly believe that this is the best thing for them, then you owe it to them to go out and really, you know, give it your all to explain why you think it's really gonna benefit them. But if they see you as coming across as just like the salesperson trying to make a commission, then it's gonna be really hard to, you know, you get that kind of sleazy kind of feel sometimes. So we're, you know, for me it's a lot of Even within my team, you know, I'm trying to push people to be the best version of themselves, and that means going way outside, you know, their comfort zone and stretching their limiting personal beliefs. And as soon as I touch on it, as soon as I identify one, the immediate reaction is defensiveness. The immediate reaction is, "Oh no, that's not me," or, "I don't want to do that painful thing that I need to do to break through." But it's going to be important. And it's all out of love and care for them. And that's what eventually kind of gets us through, is the understanding that they're— I'm trying to help them. I'm not trying to sell them anything. I'm not doing it for me. It's for them. And so it calls into question the longer-term value of the relationship. The best salespeople are the ones that you can— sorry, I'm in the middle of a fight here, it's getting testy. The best salespeople are the ones that you can not just have a one-time transaction with, but you want to have a long-term relationship with. Like sometimes I turn away deals that would benefit me in the short run, but they come back because listen, at that time what you wanted was not what I could give you. I'm not the best guy for you. Recognizing that I'm not the best for everybody and just trying to convince them that my ideas are, you know, solid. It's coming from listening to them and understanding what their real needs are, and sometimes that means turning away business. But the next time they're gonna come back to you because they trusted you, they appreciate your advice. And so it's using your ears, really trying to understand what they care about, really trying to understand if you're gonna be the best fit for them, and then approaching the intention of you want to help these people. And I think that can also help you get through a lot of the— for people who aren't used to selling, who feel it's a dirty thing, I think that can get— help you get through. It's like, listen, these guys have real problems. You know, it may not be a life-changing problem all the time, you know, if you're selling, you know, breakfast at whatever restaurant you have, that may not be a life-changing problem that you're solving, but understand that you're there trying to help them instead of trying to sell them. And just shifting that mindset can make a big difference. If you feel like selling is you know, for dirty people or scammy people and you don't want to be associated with that. And the good news is we're all equipped to help. We are all already equipped to help. And so— oh, I'm under attack, Warwick! Okay, there we go. All right, we're good. I made it out. I got jumped on. You like helping people, right? Like, we all have the tools already to help people. And if you have the expertise in an industry, right, whatever it is— for me, it's entrepreneurship, you have whatever you do— if you have those expertise and you combine that with the ability to help, a desire to help, and you're making sales. So it doesn't have to be this dirty thing, just listening and adjusting your mindset. I think will help.

Absolutely. And we got some chatter in the box. We've got Jen So Much saying, you know, if it's not a match, no biggie, just in terms of sales and, you know, working with someone. If it's not a match, no biggie, just let— make a decision. All done with love. I think that makes a good point too. It's like one of the things that I think can be hard is people are uncomfortable with that, having to make that decision. And sometimes people don't just say, yes, I want it, or no, I don't want it. So other people's inability to say, yes, I want it, or no, I don't want it, can I think make it an awkward situation for the salesperson, don't you think?

Yeah, I had something to say and then we got into a fight here. The chaos. Say the question again. I want to make sure I get it too.

Well, it's just, you know, the salesperson might actually be totally fine with, hey, I'm going to push you because I think this is going to be good for you, but at the end of the day, If you're not interested, you know, just say no. And I think the awkwardness of sales can be at times that people don't know how to handle that, being pushed, and they don't know how to— they don't have their own personal boundaries to say, you know, oh no, this just isn't for me. It's like it just can be an awkward dynamic when the person who's being sold to doesn't have the boundaries to say no. Say I'm not interested or I am interested.

Sure, and knowing how far you can push somebody. I think people don't push enough in general and are afraid of being that pushy salesperson where again you're looking at it from a perspective of helping them. I remember what I wanted to say that, uh-oh, work's coming back. I wanted to say that I think a lot of people stay with the wrong potential clients too long. Like, I would— if somebody's not a fit, it's— I would rather know that and, and then spend more time with people who are potential fits than follow up and follow up and follow up and follow up and follow up with people who are, who are not fits for what I'm doing. Um, and it's kind of the— it's a, it's a super classic sales technique, I guess, of, you know, keep following up and keep following up and keep following up. And, you know, maybe that works for a lot of people. For me, I would rather just spend the time with people who value what I'm doing. And if you don't get it and you don't have the need, I don't want to call you, you know, every single day and bother you about this. I'd rather go on and move to somebody else who sees the value, has the need, has the budget, is ready to move forward.

Yeah, cool.

So let me give you a game update because we're doing, we're doing well here. 7 kills to 1 death for the team. Teemo has 2 of those kills, so I'm 2-0. Pretty exciting. Game is happening. Yeah, things are happening, things are happening, guys. This This might be the start of a new streak. Bring on the streak, hashtag bring on the streak.

Cool, all right. Next question is coming from Rokas. Rokas. Yeah. All right. So Rokas says, Hello, Evan. Can you give me advice how to start? I want to inspire others to be yourself and inspire people to be different, that being different is not a bad thing. And I always— I've already done it for some people personally, but how to create a business with this idea? In my country, at least, from the point— from my point of view, I do not see that someone makes something like I want to. Can you help me? I don't want— I don't know where else to ask. Alrighty. Well, I definitely love the vision. I love the idea of helping people be more comfortable being themselves and being different is okay. I know there's a lot of inspirational people out there who are giving that message, but I think it's a message that we still I still need to hear every day, you know, more people giving permission to others to just be themselves, even if they don't quote unquote fit in. So I think you're right. I think what I would tell you, Rokas, is that it kind of seems like you're in your own way. In the live chat, actually, Evan, we were having some, a little bit of chat about self-sabotage. We talked about that on Friday. To me, when you are waiting for someone in your country to have done it first, or you're just, you know, you already have everything you need right now, essentially. I mean, YouTube is available for you right now. You could start making videos today and share your heart for how you want to help people and immediately get something going. I know that YouTube is a slower, a slower business model, but the point is just that there's nothing holding you back, really. So I would just find a way to start, and if you've already done it in the lives of people around you, you know, ask them, what did it— what did I do in in your life that helped you, like what specifically did I do that brought value? And that would give you some ideas as maybe what to, how to continue to give value, whether it's in a YouTube or a blog or, or anything. So yeah, I think it's great that no one else in your country is doing it because that's probably why you're supposed to do it.

I'm feeling the love, man. Rishi. You know, there's a lot of different ways to be able to monetize this thing. When I first started doing what I was doing, I had no idea how I was going to make money. Right? I was doing seminars. I did it at the YMCA, and it was really just an experiment, a test to try to see. And ended up working out, which is great. But I didn't know how it ever— I thought I wouldn't ever make money at it. I thought because I can only get, you know, those 3 people to show up to my free event that I'd never be able to make any substantial income from it. But I kept doing it. So the thing is you have to figure out how the execution is going to be unique for you. Right? So are you better at— so it's great that you've done it with some of your friends and what have you. Are you better at coaching where you're meeting people one-on-one and you're helping them break through their limiting beliefs? Are you better at doing videos? Are you better at creating worksheets? What are you better at? What do you— what's the execution that is so great for you? That's what you need to figure out. And then hone those skills. So if you're great at coaching, let's say example, right? You like meeting with people and over a cup of coffee or series of coffees, you can move somebody to take action, right? Say that's what you're all about. Perfect. Now you need to perfect that system so you can get there faster and more effectively. What needs to get done for you to be able to do that faster, right? So now you're still honing your skills, you're still, you know, you're probably okay at it. You've had some experience, great. You got to do it better, faster, right? Impact more people more quickly. How do you get there? How can you do it so that instead of it taking you, you know, 3 months worth of conversations, you can do it, you know, in 1 month? Or in one conversation, right? Understanding that will be where you can really then start to shine. So there's a lot of different ways. Like, if you can do that quickly, then people will start paying you for that, right? If I can meet you for a cup of coffee and I come out changed, then you can start charging for that. You know, right now you may not be able to start charging, not because you're not providing the value yet. It's just more you haven't been— like, it takes too long to get there. It may not be a repeatable process yet. You know, like, look at my YouTube channel. How many videos have I done? How much practice have I had? And I still have a long way to go, right? Like, you might like my videos and they may inspire you, and I'm, you know, super humbled by all that, but I still have a long way to go. To be where I want to be. And it'll be more practice and more practice and more practice. But I found my execution. Like, I don't want to do the one-on-one coaching as much. I want to do it in a more public setting. I want to do it through videos. I want to do it through, you know, the books that I'm creating. And so, you know, just because nobody in your country has done it yet That's fine. That's the life of an entrepreneur, right? Like, we see something that nobody else sees and we go out and we make something happen. That's awesome. Whoa, whoa, under attack, under attack, under attack. Can I get out? Can I get out is the question. Can I get out is the big question. Whoa, I'm running, I'm running. I think I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make it. I made it. That was scary. That was scary town, guys. That was scary town. Yeah, so I look at when I was starting my industry, again, nobody had done what I was doing necessarily and just finding— like one, keep going because if you love it, you have to keep going. And then finding the right model for you that combines your skills and what you want to learn so that you can really shine. Like, just because somebody else is having success with YouTube videos, it doesn't mean you have to go and do YouTube videos, right? You have to find the execution that's right for you. And a lot of that comes from practice. So keep practicing coaching people, practice making videos, Practice doing interviews, practice doing seminars. What do you love the most? What makes you excited? Because when you get really good at that thing and people walk away feeling like they've gotten so much insane value from it, then you'll start making a lot of money from it.

Yeah, and I think going back to the very first question we had, One way to kind of determine your execution would be, what would you do if no one paid you for it? I feel like that's a good way to tap into where you will shine, because I know for me, when someone asked me that question, I immediately, my mind went to what I'm doing on Rishi Cupp TV. So video for me is what I've always loved, but you might think when someone asks you that question, what would you do if no one paid you for it, you might think, you know, a blog or, you know, coaching or whatever.

So that's it. Evan, did you always envision—

did you always— oh, exactly, good luck. When someone— if someone were to ask you that question, Evan, like when you were— well, you wanted to be a banker right out of— or you wanted to be in the banking after after college, but like, did you ever see this, like, has this unfolded almost as a surprise to you, or was this something that you could actually see years before for yourself?

No, I had no idea. Oh, okay. Yeah, I had no idea, but I was willing, like, I came out, I did the first presentation because I had some success as an entrepreneur And I thought, yeah, it'd be cool to— sure, why not? I got invited to do something. I said, yeah, I'm happy to do it. Saying yes to things, like when you don't know what it is and you explore, you explore until you find the thing that you want to do. So I didn't know what I wanted to do, so I had to explore. And then I eventually found it. Whoa, can I save my team? Can I save my team? The fight is real, the fight is real. I got a kill and an assist though. All right. Yeah, um, when you don't know what you want to do, you gotta, you gotta explore and try and see. So I said one, I said yes to one, one interview, and that turned into, you know, a lot more. And it could have sucked. But, you know, it didn't. So, but I said yes to a lot of other stuff that did suck, that I was not good at, and that I didn't want to continue getting better at. And that was the one, like, this is one of the things that hit. So I got, you know, I can say I was fortunate in that, but I created that situation by just saying yes. I said yes to salsa dancing, right? Yes to salsa dancing. Yeah. When I said yes to other things too that did not do well, and salsa dancing became a thing that I stuck with for years, um, when it didn't make, you know, logical sense for me to do. Um, so you got to explore until you find the thing that you really love doing.

Yeah, and the reason I appreciate that, hearing that process, Evan, is because it goes back to the thing of like when people say, well, what do I do? And you'll usually say, well, just start. And that's the thing about when you just start is that once you start, things come to you that you never could have planned. And so part of it is like realizing that I mean, not to get too deep, but like, it's almost like life hands you more when you are in action and in motion. And so I don't know, I just think some of it is like nothing will start if you don't start. Nothing will come to you if you don't just do something, you know.

So sure, I mean, even, even this, like League of Legends, I saw, you know, JRise when he used to come over to the office and I saw him watching this game and I thought it was, I thought it was, you know, I thought it was interesting he was spending his time on it. And I thought, I never thought that I would be, that I would, this wasn't my kind of game, like I never really enjoyed this kind of stuff. Um, But I asked him once, hey, why don't we make a video, teach me how to play League of Legends? And so we made a video and I kind of liked it. And so then we, you know, now it became this whole thing as part of my daily routine. You know, who would have guessed? You know, I don't know. But I, you know, just saying yes and trying things and then seeing how you feel about it. The experimentation is important.

Totally. Alright, good luck. Just looking at the chatter over here, Evan.

Alright, I'm being chased hard. Okay, I got out. Whoo! Okay, what's in the chat?

Doesn't look like the chatter. Chatters are people talking to each other right now.

Oh, were they talking to themselves?

Who were they talking to? No, they're kind of talking to each other. They're like, you know, we got some, yeah, non-related chatter. All right, I like it. All right, yeah. Next question comes from Daniel, and Daniel says, hey Evan, "Hey, Kate." "I'm really thrilled." Yeah. "I'm really thrilled to actually be communicating with you. Your videos are a real encouragement. Right now, I'm facing a difficult situation. I'm nearly broke and have to choose between getting a day job or continuing to fight for my dreams. I'm praying for a miracle." from Daniel, artist in Ohio.

Yes.

Alrighty. So, it doesn't look like there's really a question here, Evan, but looks like he's just needing some encouragement. Looks like pretty— he's still in the urgency of having to choose between a day job and his dreams. And, you know, a lot of the people that I really respect in fact, who are doing their dreams and who fought for their dream. Like you were mentioning Oprah, you know, she, she did what she had to do, even if it meant other jobs, to continue doing what was her dream. Same thing for going back to Elizabeth Gilbert from that top 10. She actually said that part of her commitment to her dream was that she would never ever require it to be— like, for her, writing is her dream. And so she said she was never going to write for money. She would do whatever she can to sustain that dream, but she was not going to demand that the dream was what had to provide for her. And so that for her, that meant being a waitress for years. Same thing with Barbara from Shark Tank. I think she did a lot, a lot, a lot of jobs before she did— I think she said recently, like, I had like 20+ jobs before her main real estate success. So I don't think it's one or the other. I think it's I think that's part of the journey for a lot of people. You know, I think if you— if it really is your dream, then sometimes it means having to maybe do some stuff that you're not so excited about to keep the dream going. I don't think you're in a unique situation, and I don't think you need to see it as you're giving up on your dreams because you have to get a day job. Uh, but hey, I don't know, Evan, you might have another perspective for Daniel.

You gotta kill, hold on. Teemo got it. Oh, almost a double kill. All right, good, we're doing well. Uh, yeah, both. It's both. It's both. You don't do one or the other. It's not your day job or your dream. It's both. You do what you need to do to get— to make it happen. It may take— it takes longer than you think it's gonna take. And if that means going out and you have to go get a job to support yourself, listen, you gotta survive. You gotta eat food. You need to pay your internet bill. Right? It's both. We won! Hey! And I hear you, like, you have this thing, it can feel like a step backwards. It can feel like a step backwards to go back and get a job. Uh, let me just say good game to everybody here. GG, well played all. Nice, I got an S+ and J-Ryze got an S+. Best 2, best 2 in the game. I like— I finished 4 kills, no deaths. Jerez had 10 kills, 3 deaths, so we did pretty well there. It can feel like a step backwards. It can feel like a step backwards to— especially if you were full-time and you were doing it for a year or 6 months or 18 months or whatever it was, and then you stop, you know, you run out of money and you have to go back and get a job. It feels like you're giving up. The key thing is that you're making every day some some kind of forward progress. And it's not a huge step back. It's just like, it's not fatal as long as you keep going. And there's lots of people who have to do that, who want to be a musician or who want to be a software entrepreneur, who want to be, you know, whatever it is, fill in the blank, whatever your dream is. It may not come as fast as you want, and that may be humbling in that you need to go and and get a job. And ideally, you go get a job where you're going to learn something too, right? We've talked about that. Yeah. Um, if you're going to go back and get a job, it's something that, you know, hey, you know what, I haven't had success in my entrepreneurial ventures because I don't know about marketing. Okay, great, go get a marketing job, right? Go get something where you can learn about marketing so that you can have success while you continue to build your business. It's just, it's only fatal if you stop, if you stop your company, right? You stop working on it and you just shelve it, if you give up on it. Or you need to be spending that 30 to 60 minutes every day on the business to help it continue to grow.

I love too what Tyler Perry says. I think the tagline of his company is, where dreams dream for you. And the idea is that like when it really is a dream in you that, that is, you know, the real deal, no matter what happens in the process, like that dream is going to keep living and you will get there, even if you don't get there as fast as you want. Like your, your dream, when you can't dream for your dream anymore, it continues on. So I think when it's really something you've got to do, no matter what the process, you're going to get there.

Very cool. Well, hey, we predicted start of a streak. That was, that was how we led this off, and here we are with a victory. So pretty pumped about that. Uh, Rishi is going to close us off with a message of the day. What do we got?

Oh, I am feeling a just cup of appreciation for everyone in the chat and everyone showing up and asking questions and just, you know, I think what I'm feeling is that none of us can do this by ourselves. And it's so awesome to be able to come somewhere and for an hour chat with each other, encourage each other, learn together. I think that's super valuable. I love it.

I love it. Feeling the warm feelings there. She's spreading some warm love there. Cool. Well, thank you guys for joining. We'll be back on again tomorrow morning, hopefully continue on our streak. Have an amazing day. I believe in you, and I hope you believe in yourself and whatever your one word is. I'll see you soon.