Everything You Need to Become Mentally Strong, Focused & Free | Dr. Wayne Dyer

Most people never become mentally free because they spend their whole lives reacting instead of choosing.

Sometimes when you find yourself in a situation that you can't change, we are challenged to change ourselves.

In order to elevate our lives, we have to change our concept of ourselves.

Every fear, distraction, and excuse gets stronger every time you believe it.

Everything you fight makes you weaker. Everything that you endorse makes you stronger.

Our doubts are our traitors.

And if you don't break that pattern now, you'll wake up years from now living a life You never actually chose.

You have to be careful to not make this your calling card in life.

So in the next 3 hours, Dr. Wayne Dyer will teach you the mindset shifts that can free you from fear, sharpen your focus, and change your life forever. A special thanks to Hay House for partnering with us to release this video exclusively here on my YouTube channel. If you've been here before, drop a hashtag #Believe in the comments below so I can feature you here in a future video. And if you're new, welcome to Believe Nation, the only channel that helps you believe in yourself daily, one video at a time.

Dr. Dyer joins us from his home in Maui. So we have people waiting to get on here to talk to you.

Oh, let's do it.

Yeah, let's get a couple of people on here and then—

We'll stop talking and give me some people.

Let's go to Wendy. She's calling from Vancouver on line 1, and let's get her up here. Hi, Wendy, you're on with Dr. Dyer.

Hi, wow, I got through.

Hi, Wendy, I like your cheeseburgers. I used to when I ate meat.

Hi, Wayne, I'm a really big fan of yours. I just wanted to say that before I touch on anything.

Hi, Evan.

Hi. Wow, I got butterflies talking to you. So my question is, I've been doing a lot of like healing work. I've been meditating a lot lately, uh, the past— probably more so regularly in the past month, and, um, things are starting to like bubble up from my past, and I'm not really sure how to forgive. I know, um, I've actually been reading, uh, Wisdom of the Ages, and I'm a big fan of a lot of your work, actually all of your work. And I know that you had said to, you know, like conquer and, you know, like rise above your pain, but this one pain— I was abused as a 3-year-old by my babysitter, and I'm 20 now, and I'm starting to remember a lot more.

Mm-hmm.

And I know with other people that have hurt me in my life, I've been able to forgive them, and You know, it's been like a weight lifted off of me, but this has been causing a lot of pain in my life, and it's something I don't really know how to spiritually go about it, Michael, because I could go to a counselor or therapist and, you know, remash it all, but I feel like it's something laying deep within my soul.

Do you remember it, or were you told about it?

No, I remember. I remember bits and pieces. You know, some of it's blurry and it's kind of— and that's the thing that's been really disturbing because in the past couple of weeks I've been, you know, like remembering a lot more. And, you know, I was driving the other day and I was on top of the world, just having a fabulous day, like nothing could rain on my parade. And I turned and I looked and I thought I saw his face, and when I looked back it wasn't him. And I'm just, you know, it's— and I feel like when I start thinking about it, starting to make me physically sick. And I'm starting to feel like, you know, I'm getting pain and stuff, and it's almost like phantom pain. It's really bizarre, and it feels like, you know, it's like laying deep within, like it needs to— it's like bad energy that needs to, you know, be released. But I don't know how to release it nor forgive this person for the, you know—

Well, my dear, I would— if I were, you know, I can't— we have a few minutes to talk about something that, you know, is a lifetime and a very, very, very It's a very serious thing, obviously, but it's also not nearly as serious as you may have made it. You have to really be careful. What is your first name?

Wendy.

Wendy, that's right.

You have to be careful to not make this your, uh, your calling card in life.

You know, your, uh, your biography can become your biology, and if this becomes the major focus of your biography, it's going to affect your physical body in a very dramatic way. And the phantom pains will turn into real pains, which could turn into— you know, all you have to do is read Louise Hay's book, You Can Heal Your Life, and she talked in there about being sexually abused and raped when she was a young woman, and then later on in her 20s she developed cervical cancer.

Wow.

And she made a very serious connection between those things, and that was literally what prompted the channeling through her of You Can Heal Your Life. You were going to say something?

Yeah, that's what's actually— I was I was told that I have HPV. That was 2 months ago I was diagnosed, and they thought that they had seen precancerous changes, and I was actually at an open circle and meditating.

Yeah.

And I— after I left, I made— I kind of connected the dots, because I actually am familiar with Louise Hay, and I remember reading that about— and that's when I kind of made the connection. That's one of the biggest reasons why I'm feeling like I need to heal and release and let go of this.

Absolutely, yeah.

Because I don't want it to manifest into the physical, which it already sort of has.

Sure.

And the only answer here, Wendy, the only answer for you is love. You know, love is what makes this universe what it is, and the evil that we are talking about, that a man would abuse a 3-year-old child, is really not evil. It's really love just going in the wrong direction, because the whole universe is just made out of love. It's just that this is a very misguided, you know, sick, any number of things that a person like that could do. But it's someone who just was turning away, was moving away from his source, from God. And your job is to bring yourself back to your source and recognize that you came from a place of well-being and you're going to return to a place of well-being. And so did this babysitter of yours as well. And if you can find a place in your heart to have love for yourself, And for him. And forgiveness really means just only having love in your heart and sending that out. Not only will you get past this, but you'll turn it into something where you can help other people with it. Yeah, Wendy, it's a huge issue. It's a huge issue in my life. My next book is going to be about that. It's going to be called My Greatest Teacher, and it's about my father, who was perhaps the most abusive man that you could even imagine, and just abandoned and walked out. And yet I find that I feel his presence and feel that he taught me, and everything that he taught me allowed me to move out of an ordinary level of consciousness into more of an exalted state. It all began with my ability to go within and find fault— I mean, to find forgiveness. But for you, dear, it's like this is something you have to be really careful about, that it doesn't become something that you use to identify yourself. You know, I was an abused child and therefore— and by the way, I was too, in one foster home that I lived in when I was 3. I have very, very strong memories of a woman being, you know, sitting in a bathtub with my brother David and grabbing my penis and taking a butcher knife and threatening to cut it off and sending us outside in the dark. So I, you know, I go back on that. And yet I think that that experience and the experiences of moving from home to home and so on for me, taught me something that has allowed me to help an awful lot of people who've had even worse circumstances, and some not quite as bad, to have better lives. And that's what I wanted to ask you. Why do you think that you, who are— you are really God, you know, I mean, you are really a piece of God, so that, you know, there's a higher self within you that knows everything and is all-powerful, and, you know, it's like that's who you are. Why do you suppose at the tender age of 3 that you were aligned with this kind of an experience. What do you think when you go within and ask yourself, you know, why did anything like this happen to me? What do you come up with?

Well, I know that, you know, my mother is one of my greatest teachers, and unfortunately, the reason why I ended up with this— the reason why this man volunteered to babysit for my mom— he was a friend of my mom's— was because she was a single parent and didn't have the money or any other resources for anyone else to babysit. And—

Yeah, but I'm asking— I'm talking about you, sweetheart. What about you?

What do you—

here you are, a 3-year-old child, you know, and suddenly you're aligned in such a way that, you know, you have this very, very, you know, unpleasant and heinous experience. What do you think? You attracted this, or you came into that psychically? What do you—

Oh, I have no idea. Maybe that was set out before me, before I was born. That was a decision that was made in spirit, and it was supposed to be a life experience that You know, I can grow from. The problem is I just— now that I'm dealing with it, I don't know how to grow from it.

Oh, good, good, really good. Okay, so, and what would be the best— what's the best way to grow from anything? You know, now you want to start to think like God thinks, okay? And how does God think? God only thinks in terms of serving, reaching out, because, you know, God just gives. You know, the source of all things just offers. It doesn't say, I want anything back, you don't have to pay me back, I don't want— You don't have to build big temples in my honor or anything. I'm just here to serve. And if you want to think like God thinks, you would now— you're now in a position to serve. You're now in a position to direct your life in a way to help people to overcome even worse circumstances than what you went through. And to go within and find that place of forgiveness. You know, and the Course in Miracles reminds us that it is only through forgiveness that we will find peace. There is no other way. And when you do that, when you can just take a deep breath, go within, and just let go, just let go, just let it go, let it all float off away. Forgive yourself, forgive your mother for choosing the wrong person, forgive this man. And when you've done that, when you replace that anger inside, that frustration inside, you will purify your body, and that HPV that you're experiencing will dissolve. It'll be gone, because all disease is a function of the mind.

It's all mental.

And, uh, in some way or another. So just, you know, I would recommend just a constant meditation, sending love, particularly sending love to that place, the places in your body where you feel that you may be developing, you know, unhealthy kinds of things in your body, and just let it go. You know, every experience that happens to us in our life, there is something that we can gain from it.

And there are no accidents in this universe. You have gone through this.

You might want to write about it. You might want to volunteer in places. You know, you might want to, uh, you know, become a spokesperson for, uh, helping people to overcome these things. In the process of reaching out and serving others, particularly others who've had similar kind of experiences— I'm doing it right now. I mean, I've got leukemia and I'm reaching out to cancer patients all over the world in a dramatic way. And I really feel that, that this came into my life, as hard as it is, it might be to say, it came to me for a very positive reason. And that's what I would say to you as well.

Thank you.

And I just want to add one last thing here before you move on. I want to say thank you very much for all the inspirational things that you wrote about. And I actually stumbled across your book, and this is just proof of how things come into your life for a reason. Your book, Inspiration— I didn't know who you were 3, 4 years ago. I mean, I'm 20, I didn't quite know who you were, and I stumbled across your book.

Thank you.

Somebody was sorting through their things and I picked it up and I started reading it. And at that time in my life, I was extremely depressed and suicidal, and reading your book actually helped save me. And I wanted to say thank you for that. And if I ever talked to you, I told myself that I would tell you that.

So—

Oh my goodness.

Well, that's so wonderful. And you know, you certainly are worth saving.

You're a beautiful soul and you have much to do here, you know.

And you are— the one thing I want to say to you is that, you know, you are God. You know, you are a piece of God. You are a piece of the divine. And keep that in mind. And I'll see you— hopefully I'll see you at the event in Vancouver. Come up and say hello to me, Wendy.

Okay?

Thank you so much.

Thanks, sweetheart.

Love you.

Love you too. Bye-bye.

What a great call to start things off with on forgiveness. I just wanted to ask you a question on that note. I mean, I understand that we can learn lessons from horrible things that happen to us, or things that happen to us in life, much like what Wendy experienced. But I kind of— I'm not sure how I feel about the— she had mentioned that we choose certain things to experience in life, and can't just bad things happen for no particular reason? There doesn't need to be a reason for them to happen. They just happen, and we learn—

Yeah.

We learn from those, and we move on, and definitely good can come from it, but...

Yeah, I never think that when I say attract, I never say that we caused it or that we chose it or anything like this.

Right.

What I do say, and what Abraham says, what I learned from Abraham was that you were aligned with it. You know, it's like if you have an accident, you know, and you're just sitting there, you know, doing what exactly what you're supposed to do when somebody comes smashing into your car. You know, I mean, you wouldn't say, well, I caused this. But on the other hand, you, you know, what, what she would say, what Abraham would say, was that, that you were somehow aligned with that energy and that, that puts you in that place. And you don't say to yourself, what did I do to create this for myself, as much as you say, what is, you know, what was I doing there and what can I get out of it? What can I learn from it and then move on from it? You know, Viktor Frankl, who was, uh, you know, the author of, uh, Man's Search for Meaning, and I was blessed to be on a panel with him in, uh, 1978 in Vienna for YPO. And he was psychiatrist in, in Berlin and he was just lifted from his home and put into Auschwitz for 4 years. And he survived because he had to tell the story. And, you know, meeting him, I remember what he said. This is a paraphrase, but he said, sometimes when you find yourself in a situation that you can't change, we are challenged to change ourselves. And that's how he survived it. He had literally had the challenge to change himself. And what we have to do is we have to change our concept of ourself from one of being a victim to one of being someone who says, I'm gonna survive this.

Not only am I gonna survive this, but I'm gonna make something powerful happen.

And when I was— I was only 38 years old in 1978, and when I went to Vienna, I was on with Virginia Satir, who was a great family therapist, myself, and Viktor Frankl.

I just sat there in awe.

But I've never forgotten what he said, you know, it's like, in order to elevate our lives, we have to change our concept of ourselves. And the concept that Wendy has of herself is one of being a victim. And therefore she will become victimized by those kinds of thoughts, which means that you can develop, you know, cancer, cervical cancer, and all kinds of things as a result of that.

Instead, you change yourself to someone who says, I went through this, I handled it, and I will make something positive come out of it no matter what it is.

I agree with that. I just sometimes have a problem with when people think that they caused something or—

Yeah, or that it's a past life karma or things like that. I've never bought into it. So some people do, I don't. I just don't think that at all. I mean, you know, I look at my body and my hair fell out when I was in my 20s, you know. I don't say, well, you know, what did I do? Did I scalp somebody in a previous life or something? You know, it's like, you know, it may be possible. I'm open to all possibilities. But I just, I think the word alignment is the real key here. When bad things happen to good people, Rabbi Kushner wrote about it. Where I go with it is to say, I was aligned there, there was a reason for me to be there. I may not understand what that reason was, but now I'm going to do something. And that's what Viktor Frankl did. That's what logotherapy is really about.

Right.

It's interesting, and I agree with you. When we look into the part of ourselves that is from source, then we could try to forgive that part.

I mean, when a monster comes along and abuses a 3-year-old child, you don't want to say to the 3-year-old child when she's 20, you know, you caused this. I mean, that's just— to me, that's just absolutely absurd. But on the other hand, you do say there is— you were there and there is something for you to gain out of this. Now get that. And one of the things you may have to gain is to be able to send love where hatred seems to rule, you know, or when anger— and being able to be in those places of sending love because that's all you have to give away.

Just fill yourself with God consciousness.

Right. Understood. I'm glad you could clarify that. I don't like people to think that They cause horrible things in their lives. So we have 3 minutes here. Let's go to Jenny in Apple Valley. Sounds very pleasant. Apple Valley, California, on line 2. And welcome, Jenny, you're on with Dr. Dyer.

Well, thank you. Hi, Dr. Dyer.

Hi.

I am so thrilled to be able to say hello. And, you know, it's funny because I kind of stumbled across you.

I have a business. I've been in business 26 years, and when the market crashed, of course, so did my business. And that was just about 4 years ago now.

And I started selling things. I'm also a cowgirl.

I, um, run professional rodeo.

I'm a barrel racer, and I haven't been able to race. I've sold trucks, trailers, horses, and I've never had to sell a horse in my whole life.

So my heart was just ripped out of my chest. I had to say goodbye to horses I've raised since they were babies.

Oh.

And I still have 3 left, and I'm so blessed to have that. And I still have 1 truck and 1 trailer left, and I still have my ranch, as small as it is. I've lost it— just about lost it twice. And I got really desperate one day, and I sat down and I thought, what am I doing with my life? And I all of a sudden got a picture.

I was gonna go live under a bridge.

With all these horses tied around my trailer, and we were going to be starving to death. And I panicked, and I wanted to not live another day.

I mean, I just really went that route, and I just got so depressed, started gaining weight, couldn't— I had never had time to cook a meal because I was working 7 days a week in one of my locations just to save payroll. Anyways, long story short, something came to me one day, and thank God for insight, wise mind.

Mm-hmm. And I stumbled I stumbled across the Louise Hay book. Now, I've read her other books, I've read your books years past, and something came to me and I stumbled across her. So, I ordered all this stuff.

I had one little bit of room left on a credit card, so I ordered all this stuff, and it was almost 3 years ago now. And I even ordered a couple of things for an employee of mine who I know was hitting rock bottom because their Edison was being turned off, their gas— same with me, just things were falling apart.

And at that point, things started changing. I put— I was reading, um, I watched the DVD, um, You Can Change Your Life, and there you were, and there was Louise, and there was everybody that I needed in my life.

And I would watch it over and over and over, and I would get so excited, the tears would roll down my cheeks, and I thought, I have something to live for. Mm-hmm.

Well, then I kept going and I thought, you know, I need therapy, or I need—

and I don't like therapy, but I knew I needed someone or something to hang on to because I didn't think that I was strong enough to hang on to myself.

So I opened up the phone book one day and there it was, a mind, body, and spirit counselor.

Hold on, hold on, Jenny, hold on. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. I want to stay with this, okay?

Okay, I just wanted you to know 2 things. We formed what I call my girl group. Out of all the things I started studying, we picked up on forming a ladies' group every Thursday night at my ranch. And I'm so thrilled because we are actually— we use your book, The Tao, as our teachings, and we go through each lesson each week, and we have to use it. We have to actually apply.

Wow, what a great idea.

We love it. We love it. And it works. So I'm really blessed there, and I can't even imagine the way I was thinking 2 years ago versus my thinking today. I'm still very much broke. I'm still having a hard time, but I'm not hating it like I did. I'm still—

That's so important, especially now. I mean, 20 million jobs have been lost, you know, in the last couple of years. So people are out there struggling. But it's like the same thing I said earlier about the Viktor Frankl quote. Sometimes you find yourself in a situation that you can't change. That's when we're challenged to change ourselves. One of the things that you'll get out of Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life— is that what you're reading?

Uh-huh.

We read them all.

Yeah. I was thinking about this when you were talking about how you had to let your horses go and then you hung on. I think one of the great lessons— it's one of the great lessons I'm learning in my life. the final, it's the ultimate lesson, because most of the struggles and things that I've gone through in my own life have ended up teaching me lessons. And it isn't this cancer. This is minor compared to this. And this is learning to love, learning to love without attachment. In other words, how to let go. And I was thinking about if I was going to give you one piece of advice, it would be to let go of it all. You know, just to, you know, not, not so much sell or to get rid of it, but just let go in your mind of your attachment to Things have to be the way they've always been. And what you're doing now is you have— you've really been challenged to change yourself.

And I have.

Yeah.

And it's— and I can hear it in your voice.

We're gonna—

we got to go, sweetheart.

And we'll move along and go to Kathy. She's on line 9, calling from Pennsylvania. And Kathy, thanks for holding. You're on with Dr. Dyer.

Thank you so much. It's such a privilege and a pleasure to talk to you, Dr. Dyer.

Likewise. Thank you, Kathy.

I've been listening to your CDs in my car constantly, reading your book, and I was very impressed with Bruce Lipton's The Biology of Belief. Me too.

And I—

but I'm a little confused with the new author that you were talking to about, Pamela MacDonald and The Perfect Gene Diet.

Right.

Because I was just wondering if we go and get If we are tested for this gene combination that she's talking about, are we going to be manifesting that where we wouldn't manifest it if we didn't know that we had this gene combination?

Well, it's not a negative thing at all. I mean, whatever genetic thing that you have, there are higher incidences of possibilities of having certain kinds of things and so on. But what her book is about and why it's so hopeful and what her belief is, is that once you harmonize your eating habits with what your body genetically is capable of handling and removing through your system, different fats and so on, once you find out, then you just eat in harmony with that. It would be like when you think about animals. I mean, if you try to feed your dog something that dogs don't eat, You know, like maybe broccoli or something.

He likes broccoli.

Well, whatever. I'm trying to think of something that dogs don't eat. There's not much that dogs don't eat. But I mean, if you try to feed an animal something that genetically it is just not prepared to eat, or, you know, let's say give it tobacco or feed it scotch or something, you know, it would, you know, it would just walk away. And if you did force it to do it, ultimately it would You would find yourself breaking down at different parts of your body. So this isn't like some kind of— if you have a 2-3 or a 3-3 or a 3-4, from my minimal understanding of it, for me it has been a very, very positive thing.

Yes, and I'm so glad about that.

Yeah, and I've changed my diet. Every day I eat an avocado and I eat broccoli. Those are 2 things that are very good for you. things that I'm supposed to process. I'm not supposed to go on a low-fat diet ever. I'm supposed to eat healthy fats. And whereas there were times in my life when I would go on a no-fat diet, it was, you know, during the different times back, you know, in the '80s and so on when it was, you know, don't eat any fat and then you won't get fat. That's the surest way for me to get heart disease, which I did. And I had a minor heart attack, uh, you know, when I was 60 years old and had a stent put into my lower anterior descending, uh, thing. If I'd have known about that at that time, I easily could have prevented that. And that's really what it's about. It's really an integrative approach to— and it's not just so much about medicine as it is about dealing with everything in your life. You know, that's the stresses and the anxieties and the worries and the fears and the families and all of that. It's sort of a comprehensive integrative approach to keeping yourself healthy. But there's nothing negative. Even if you come back, whatever numbers that you come back with, you just start You start watching because, I mean, when you think about it, here you got this beautiful body, you know, and it's like such a miracle, this body that houses your soul. And it's got trillions of cells in it and it's got everything that's working in harmony with it. And it literally is whatever we feed it, isn't it? I mean, aren't your toes made out of whatever you eat?

Yeah.

And your knees and your liver and your face and, you know, and everything is just made out of what you eat. And if genetically what you're putting into it is not congruent with your genetic predisposition towards handling these things, and all we have to do is just find that out. I mean, that seems to be the message of her book. So I think there's just nothing negative about it at all.

Yeah, I just got concerned because it's like going and getting tested to see if you have the breast cancer gene, then it's on your mind like, oh my God, oh my God, breast cancer, breast cancer, and you manifest breast cancer because it's on your mind.

No, this is not. Anything that comes back, it will tell you Just what your genetic predisposition is, you know, and what you as the type that you are, the gene type that you are, you know, should or shouldn't be eating. It will not say that this is like, you know, a disease process of any kind.

It's not like that at all.

Yeah, because Bruce Lipton's book seemed to say like, okay, you can have the breast cancer gene or any type of gene and you're convinced and 100% convinced that that isn't going to be your outcome.

You can just—

You can change it. Absolutely.

Yeah.

And I— yeah, he talks about epigenetics going beyond genetics, and I completely agree with that. But that is not at all what the Perfect Gene Diet tells us. It just tells us what did you get from your mother and your father. But, uh, and I'm not a big one on, uh, you know, on getting— you know, I don't get the prostate, uh, you know, test, the PSA test. I don't do those, and I don't get in, and I don't, you know, the, the, all this idea of getting mammograms all the time and all of these different tests and having them stick things up your rear end and check, you know, this and all. I just go through my life affirming that I am God and that I am, and that I am capable of maintaining a healthy body up until I leave it. And, you know, I don't spend very, very much time in, uh, you know, having very many tests done.

Yeah, I like, uh, Dr. Christiane Northrup's, uh—

Oh yeah, I love her.

You know, I listen to her all and read her books too.

Yeah, I had her as a guest on my show and she's a very, very close friend of mine. Yeah, and, and just a brilliant woman. And, you know, she even talks about women going, you know, you go out there and you, you know, the diagnosis of a disease usually is when it just starts to become debilitating in your body. You know, you might have it your whole life. You know, Deepak Chopra often used— when I first met him, he told me the story of a friend of his who had a black mark on his lung. When he found out about it, he was a physician and he was only 48 years old, and when he saw that mark, and it was about the size of a quarter, he was dead within 3 months.

Yeah.

And they went back and they were cleaning out his office, they were cleaning out his office, and they found chest x-rays that had been taken 20-some years before, and that same black mark had been on there at that time. 20 years before, and he did. They didn't see it, and they didn't recognize it. And as soon as he found out about it, you know, all kinds of things began to change because the mind, the mind has a big impact on the body.

I don't know.

I wanted to say something that I'm very, very proud of. I don't know if you saw the Wall Street Journal, Diane, or anybody else listening, but the miners that were just rescued in Chile, the the only book that they requested was Tusana Saronias, Youronia Sounds, and it was mentioned in in the Wall. Wall Street Journal that they actually sent copies of it down there and they were reading it out loud. I was very proud about that. It was in the Wall Street Journal last week, so I felt a little bit a part of each one of those people coming out and looking so happy. If they'd have been depressed, I'd have said they must have been reading somebody else. Thanks for your call, beautiful.

Oh, thanks.

Did you see that, Diane?

No, that's great. I was going to ask Reid if he saw it. I'm sure you told him.

Yeah, he saw it.

He's the one who called me and told me. He reads the Wall Street Journal. He said, did you know that That you're mentioned in for the miners, yeah.

Well, let's go to Julie and get her in real quick on line 7.

Okay.

And we have 3 minutes. Hi, Julie.

Hi, thank you. I adore you and you are my very first influence. Thank you. And I've been practicing— yeah, yeah, Veronia Stones back in the '80s. And I read everything, I believe in it, I practice it. However, I still come up against the ego and in my work, which is sales commission, and I Yeah, so if you can just give me one tip that I can do to transcend that.

I will.

Intention.

I talk about the power of intention a lot and having an intention to be able to create sales commissions or whatever it is. Intention has to be accompanied with something called conviction. Let me ask you this question. Is it Julie?

Yes.

Where are you calling from?

I'm in California.

Okay. geographically place you someplace. If I were to ask you, which is your— your intention is to do well financially, right? That is your intention. Your intention is to make commissions, whatever it is. Would you say that's correct?

Yes, one of them.

Okay, so that— and that's what we're talking about here now, I assume. We just have a few minutes. Um, yeah, would you say that you have a conviction that you are going to attract financial stability into your life, or commissions, or whatever, or a conviction that you're not?

No, that I am.

Yeah, I'm talking about a conviction here now. I'm talking about, is there a belief system? Because even the call— I wonder if you would have made the call if you weren't thinking, a part of you thinking, this economy, what it is. And then what happens is we get a conviction about things not working out rather than, uh, you know, We may have an intention that I'm going to, you know, and we hold our intention and we do all that, we place our thoughts on our intention, but our conviction, the part of us that goes to the place of knowing, very often is saying, this economy, things aren't going to work out. I'm not able to, I haven't been able to do it. I'm going on the basis of the way things have been happening up until now, and I'm not really 100% convinced. What I would try to get you to do, because I'm getting People yelling in my ear that were losing. What I want to get you to get is to have an absolute 100% conviction that the commissions or whatever it is are going to come into your life. Put that into your imagination and assume the feeling of that wish being fulfilled.

I will.

Sorry, we've got to go. Thanks. God bless you. Oh, it went by so fast today.

It flew by. We'll talk again next week.

Okay. Thanks, Diane.

Dr. Wayne Dyer is joining us from Maui today. And how are you doing, Dr. Dyer?

I'm doing great. How are you doing?

Very good.

I became a grandpa this morning. Oh, you did? Wow. For the 6th time. But I mean, it's still— every time's a miracle.

Never gets old, huh?

No, no. It's amazing.

Amazing little boy, Graydon.

Oh, that's great.

Showed up this morning right on time.

Wow.

So you're a grandfather 6 times over.

6 times, that's what they tell me, yeah.

That's as many as you know of, right?

That's the ones I count on, yeah, the ones I know I support, yeah.

Oh, that's so exciting. I mean, it's such a great relationship. I mean, I miss my grandparents terribly. I think of them all the time, and I still think of some of them—

You know, I just, I don't even know how to be a grandpa. I don't, it's like, I never think of myself as old enough to be a grandpa, even when the kids come and say, hey, Grandpa. Just call me Wayne. I don't know what it is, but for me, grandpa always meant real old, you know?

Not anymore.

Yeah, I never think of myself that way.

No, I have a couple of girlfriends that are grandmothers, you know, now in their 40s that had married young, and they refuse, you know, the grandma label that we normally would think of it. It's just totally changed. And it's not the same aging, I think, has totally changed in a lot of ways. You know, we don't feel old. We don't look old.

Yeah, well, and we're still doing— I'm still doing the things I was doing in my 20s and 30s, um, just, just as well and, uh, just as often. So, uh, I guess it's just a funny role because I always think of my grandmother and grandfather on my mother's side. I never saw my father's side. And, um, you know, I just think, I just think they were always old, right?

They were born.

And then I look back at how old they were when I thought that. And they are younger than I am now. So anyway. That's amazing.

It's a great— it's such a great relationship and so special. And I mean, I remember things my grandparents told me, and, you know, in my grandmother's eyes, there was nothing I couldn't do. Everything was wonderful, and I was the best, you know. And you don't hear that from everybody, you know, not many people.

Yeah, my grandfather, they left— they were in Canada, and they left Uh, and just uprooted his entire family and moved to the United States. In those days, that was really easy to do, and they all became citizens. And he worked for a company called Burroughs. And when I think about what it must have been like— he had 5 children. My mother was 8, I think, at the time. It was in the 1920s. And they just uprooted because there was no work where they were in Canada, and there was— they were hiring in Detroit. So he went and rented a house in Detroit and lived there. for the rest of his life, for 60 more years. Never drove a car, never got a driver's license. All those years, I used to have to drive them everywhere. But I loved my grandparents.

They were really great people.

Yeah, it's such a great relationship to have and to cultivate. And I know now that people are so spread out and families move around, you know, more so than they used to, you kind of miss those connections.

Right.

Well, I think about also what a lot of our grandparents did. You know, a lot of them came from— we were immigrants, I guess, from Canada. But, uh, there were a lot of people who left places like Germany and France and, uh, and England and so on, and they just uprooted their entire families and got on a boat and just wanted a little more freedom to come to a place where, you know, they weren't going to be persecuted and so on. Very risky kinds of things, that generation of people. Plus, that generation of people fought in 2 big, big wars. And the Made the world safe for all the rest of us.

So very true. Yeah, and just the courage that they had.

Yes, it's incredible.

Well, I think you should be proud. That's really an awesome thing.

I am proud.

Six times over too.

Six times over, but I got eight kids, so I've got a long way to go.

Right?

There's more. There's more coming.

I'm sure.

Welcome to the show, Prue. You're on with Dr. Wayne Dyer today.

Good morning, Wayne and Diane.

Hello.

Good morning, how are you?

I'm really great, thanks. How are you both going?

We're doing great.

You're calling from Tasmania?

Yes, I am. Have you ever been to Tasmania?

Oh, I've seen all those little devils all over the place down there. Actually, I have been to Tasmania. Yeah, I was in Tasmania about 15 years ago. It's beautiful down there.

Oh, oh wow, it's a wild place.

Yes, it is.

Well, um, I'm ringing up today because I first was introduced to your work about 5 years ago, and it had such an impact on my life and still continues to do so. And so I decided I'd write you a little poem.

Oh, well, thank you. All the way from Tasmania. Yes, go ahead.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. So, um, can I read it to you now?

Sure.

Is it too— how long is it?

It's not very long at all.

Okay, great. Go for it.

Okay. Your voice was like a fall— a feather falling softly into my world, and words of wisdom and grace danced with delight around my eager heart. That pulse from within that had been so long without started to beat in harmony with a tangible truth. that dripped like nectar into my hungry soul. Your words began to weave a cocoon of enchantment around me, and I felt purpose lifting me from my knees to the clouds. An awakening can take a moment or a lifetime or anything in between, but it never fails to take my breath away. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Oh, that's beautiful.

That's nice.

What a nice, lovely thought.

I like that.

Thoughts like feathers floating down into your life.

Yeah. Well, it was like a miracle, you know? Uh-huh.

Isn't it?

I felt really strongly that I just wanted to write a poem for you. I write lots of poetry and I couldn't not write a poem for Wayne Dyer, who's been such an amazing influence in my life. So thank you very much.

Oh, you're so welcome.

And if you feel like taking another trip to Tasmania while you're in Australia, then that would be wonderful.

Okay, I just may do that. I loved it down there very much so.

Yeah, well, that'd be great.

Thank you for your call.

Thank you, bye.

You're welcome, bye sweetheart.

Wow, that's so great. So there really are Tasmanian devils? It's not just the Warner Brothers cartoon?

I don't know if there are or not. I know Tasmania was the one— was the place that they had that, uh, a horrible shooting a few years back as well. It was one of the things where they outlawed, uh, guns and so on down there, and somebody went crazy in a schoolhouse or something. Can't remember when it was, but I remember Really being surprised at it.

Wow, so there's no guns?

Wonderful, wonderful people. They have minimal guns in Australia, although there's still a lot of hunters and things like that.

It sounds like an amazing place to put it on my list.

Yes, well, you're welcome.

Let's go to Kathy. We'll come back to the States here and go to Columbus, Ohio on line 3. And welcome to the show, Kathy. You're on with Dr. Dyer.

Oh, hi.

Thank you for taking my call.

Hi, Kathy.

I have been reading your work now for probably about 5 years, And I'm on this amazing synchronistic spiritual journey that started about 30 years ago with the Tao of Pooh. So when you got into the Tao, I was really excited.

Yeah.

I was raised in a fundamental Christian church, and this idea of what happens when you die is that heaven is going to be this wonderful place, and it's going to be pretty much like it is here, only everybody's going to be happy all the time. And as I read and contemplated more of the Eastern thought, it really didn't make sense to me because I thought, how can you appreciate happiness if there's never any sadness? And then I discovered Abraham, and Abraham talks about entering this world to experience contrast, and I thought, wow, that really makes sense.

Mm-hmm.

And what I'm calling to ask about is if you could just speculate or contemplate for a few minutes on what do you think is going to be the nature of our spiritual existence when we return to source? I mean, I'm really attracted by this concept concept of shedding your ego, and there was a wonderful Buddhist phrase that I like to think about, and it's, you know, when the dewdrop returns to the ocean, does it slip into the ocean, or does it open to receive the ocean? Because I really think a lot about, are we going to lose ourselves to the point where we can no longer perceive Source?

Mm-hmm.

In other words, we're so much a part of Source that we don't recognize our separateness from it, or will there still be that little bit of self where we can appreciate Source and not just be part of it? So if you could just maybe kind of react to that thought.

Big questions, Kathy. Big, big questions and things that I contemplate a lot. I have no definitive answer, nor does anyone else. No one's ever given solid evidence of leaving there and coming back. I've just written a book called The Shift. I don't know if you've seen the book or not. And the first chapter of that book, it was really my effort to answer that question. It's so big, we can't contemplate what it must be like to live without contrast because our egos are so involved in dichotomies. You know, up— without a concept of up, there's no concept of down. Without a concept of good, there's no concept of bad, and so on. We evaluate and live and process our physical world that we're in right now in terms of opposites. When you go to oneness, when you go to the place where we, you know, we leave this body and we recombine ourselves 100% with Source, there is no contrast. And so it's almost an impossible situation to talk about because even using words to describe it creates a contrast because you've got the word, whatever you want to call it. I'm looking at a table here. You've got the word table and then you got the table itself. And so you've got the, you know, what you are calling it and what it is. For me, it's like in my meditation is when I experience it the best, is I get to that place where there is—

there's no twoness, there's no division. There's— it's like in mathematics, it's the concept of zero.

You know, you multiply something by zero, you get zero. You can't cut zero in half, you can't divide it up. Zero is a oneness kind of concept.

And that's how I think of spirit.

That's the way it's— It's where you and God are one and there's not a separation. That's how I see it, and the only time I've ever been able to experience it is in very deep and profound meditations, very often on the Tao. That oneness and that unity, that sense that there is no separation between myself and anyone else, and there is always this oneness.

And then there's the concept of—

and I talk about this in the book— of nothingness. It's very difficult for us to experience within ourselves the concept of no things, no thingness. So that's my, my sort of amateur attempt to do it. When you read The Shift, I think you'll have a little more understanding of it. And it's, again, it's just my perceptions. Who knows? You know, it might be something very, very different.

Okay, thank you.

Thanks, Kathy. God bless you.

And we're back. Dr. Dyer, ready to talk to some more people?

I am.

Very good. So let's see, where should we go? How about let's go to Meredith calling from Milwaukee, Wisconsin on line 8. And welcome to the show, Meredith. You're on with Dr. Wayne Dyer today.

Awesome.

Hello.

Hi, how are you, Meredith?

I am wonderful. How are you?

Just fine, thank you.

Wonderful to talk to you.

Thank you, likewise.

Oh, my mind is Very active right now. I met you in Chicago. I saw the shift and right soon after that, I think it was in February you came to Chicago and did a viewing.

January.

January.

After that, soon after that, I actually was fired from one of my, from a really great job.

Congratulations.

What?

I said congratulations. I always say that when someone tells me that because that's the universe The universe is saying to you, it's time to move on, you're in the wrong place.

Yes.

It's hard for us, just an aside there, it's hard for us to be grateful for the things that don't seem to be in harmony with what we think our life should be. But that's one of the really great spiritual lessons that I've learned in my life, is that everything that shows up in your life, everything, even the things that seem to take you into lower places and so on, they have something very important to teach you. And if you can learn to be in a state of gratitude when those things happen, you can get the lesson a lot faster. Anyway, just an aside. Go ahead.

On the side. Well, see, when you talk, it sounds like I don't have a question anymore. Do you know what I mean?

That's okay. That's what this show is though. We just talk. We just— it's just talking to people all over the world. I love it. I love this hour. I don't have any answers. I don't have any answers either. I mean, I just, I just give my opinions and, and that's what we do on the radio.

I guess, well, because I want to talk to you more, so I have to phrase something, right?

Yeah.

Well, then it would be maybe your opinion and such on intuition and knowledge— intuition versus, like, knowledge and fear. Sometimes I can't tell if— I don't know, I guess, sometimes what intuition is.

Really? Yeah, I know what you mean, and I don't either, because I have a very active mind just like you do, and I hear voices in there all the time. And I get almost a strong internal sense that this is the direction, that I should do this, I must do this. Sometimes it comes when I'm just walking along and I see that somebody's thrown away a plastic cup, and I walk by it, and I'll be thinking about that plastic cup, and I'll be thinking about it. And how could somebody have left it there? And it's like, is it going to end up in the ocean? And my intuitive sense is, go back and pick it up. You know, go back and pick it up. And I listened to that. I mean, I call that intuition, whatever. Maybe I did it at the time because I just did that yesterday so that I could talk to several hundred thousand people today and tell them, you know, when you see a piece of trash on the road, instead of cursing it and being mad at somebody for being indifferent and so on, Just go back and pick it up yourself, you know. And I don't know, maybe that's why I have that intuitive thought, or is it just a crazy little passing thought and it's just one little weird Wayne Dyer thing that I do? But I listen to those voices and I trust them, and I don't try to make a determination between whether that is some intuitive Tasmanian devil out there trying to encourage me to do something, or is it me, you know, just with an arbitrary thought in my mind. And most of the time when I follow my intuition, when I feel that it's strong, it always seems to guide me in the right way. And that's the only distinction I can really make between it. You know, when you ask the question, is it knowledge or is it intuition? I don't separate them.

I don't separate them at all.

You know, my favorite line about intuition is that, you know, if prayer is you talking to God, then intuition is God talking to you. When I hear that voice and when I think about it, Like, I've got something going on in my own life right now that I'm, I'm really working on in my life, and I get messages about it when I go to sleep at night. I think about it when I wake up and, and all of that. And all of that, I just think, is part of my own knowledge, my own life experiences, and it's also part of God speaking to me and saying, do the right thing, you know, even if it sounds difficult or if it's, you know, if you've gotten off the path or whatever it might be. And so I, I don't try to separate any of that. I love my mind. And I love how active it is, and I trust in it, and I know that it will always lead me in the right place as long as I get my ego out of the way. That's the best I can do with that, sweetheart. What did you do after you were fired, and why did you get fired?

Because I'm too awesome. No, I don't know.

I believe that. I actually do. I do believe that. You sound awesome.

People are in awe. No, I don't know. I mean, it's not a problem. It's sometimes, you know, It makes me wonder, and it does cause me to question things, which is fine. I enjoy that.

So, but here's the lesson of being fired: you're never going to be free. What is your first name?

Meredith.

Meredith, you're— do I know you, Meredith?

Probably. No, no, no.

I mean, you haven't— I know a Meredith that lives near you. No, no, no. Okay, the life lesson: how old are you?

I just turned 30.

You're 30.

So the life lesson that I've learned from a man who's exactly 40 years older than you is that you're never free. You're never free and you're never going to be free as long as you're working for somebody else. And so—

Right.

Well, you don't work for yourself. Yeah, your path, I believe, Meredith, is to be your own boss, to not be told when to go in, what you should do, how you should do it, what you should wear, what time you should be someplace. And so on. You're definitely, clearly a very free spirit, and that free spirit of yours does not want to be caged. It doesn't want to be fenced in. It doesn't want to be told what compartment to fit into, and so on. It is a free spirit, and anything that you do to keep it from being free, you'll end up getting fired. How do you like that? That's my lesson for today.

Well, I love your lesson.

Thank you so much.

Much love to you, beautiful. And you are awesome.

Thank you.

You are awesome.

Everyone is.

Yeah, God bless you, dear.

I like that attitude after getting fired because I was just too awesome for that company.

They couldn't take my—

Yeah, wasn't she cool? I love that. I've got a daughter that's like that. She can turn any lemons into lemonade.

That's great.

They couldn't take my awesomeness, so I had to leave.

That's right. I was too great.

Well, I think that in her case, she's going to definitely go on to a better situation. And that's always been the situation with me whenever I've gotten the boot. It's always been for a better situation. And it happens a lot in radio.

Oh, I know. I've told the story, I think, here on my show. And I know I've told it in the last few years. But I used to go out and travel a lot, city to city to city, and do radio shows for every time I'd do a book and then the paperback, and I would be doing book tours. Things I don't do anymore, but I did those for years and years and years. And I was in New York City, and I was, uh, it was a Friday afternoon, and I was doing the final interview on this radio talk, talk radio format show. And the format of the radio show had been changed from, um, talk, you know, news talk and sports and all of that kind of thing, where I would do the interview on that show, to, uh, on Monday it was going to be gospel music. So whoever had bought it just decided they wanted to just do it and, you know, just do all gospel. And there were 18 or 19 people there and who I had come to know over the years because each year I would go back and I would, you know, I knew all of the people there at the station and so on. And everybody was so glum and everybody was just so down. And I can remember saying to everybody that I would meet and say, hey, congratulations, I understand you're leaving and you're gonna— and they thought that I was just being insensitive and thinking that, that, you know, they had lost their jobs and it wasn't that terrible. But I, I was saying them that, uh, you know, that's just God's way of saying, you know, you've been here long enough, you know. Uh, so Monday, listen to some music from the gospel and just—

and move on, you know.

Right.

Don't be, uh, telling yourself that these kinds of things— that, uh, you know, years later I would meet those different people at different radio stations because you said that a lot of this happens in radio, a lot, you know, people leave their jobs a lot. And I would see them a year or two later and they would be much happier. They'd gotten promotions, they'd done other things and so on, and they just Basically, they would still be sitting back there at that radio talk show if somehow they couldn't come up internally with the courage to just leave. So the universe offers them an opportunity to do that.

Exactly.

That's how I look at—

that's how I look at life.

Opportunities will open up.

Yeah, absolutely.

Let's go to Mark, and he's looking for some business opportunities here on line 6 in Philadelphia, and he wants to remain competitive. Welcome, Mark. You're on with Dr. Dyer today.

Good afternoon. Hello, Dr. Dyer.

Hi, how are you?

I'm very well, thank you. I've been doing a lot of contemplation, Dr. Dyer, of late. I've been reading a lot of your work actually, and, uh, particularly the Excuses Be Gone series. I'm in an extremely competitive business, real estate, on an island incidentally in New Jersey. And I deal with very successful people for the most part. And I employ all the tenets and practices of your teachings, but I have a hard time— and I'm sure this has to do with the ego— but I have a hard time detaching myself from my work when I'm not there.

Mm-hmm.

For example, I keep a place in Philadelphia to care for my father, who is 80 years old, and You know, you become the parent of your parent when they become very old. He's 80 years old, but he works every day. He's actually a judge here in Philadelphia for the Parking Authority, taxis and limos. But what I'm trying to do is— and also I wanted to say that I can sense intuitively you mentioned you have some things going on with you right now. And whatever that is, I wish you the best with that. But, um, I've had 7 surgeries recently and just everything's hit me at once. I've lost my mom who was an angel. She, uh, cared for the sick and dying for the last 30 years of her life. She was a hospice nurse before it was called hospice.

Right.

And now I am at 38 years old, the real estate broker and owner of this company. And, you know, I enjoy what I do very much. A lot of people hate their jobs, but in my recovery, you know, it was a near-death experience. So of course it was a turnaround for me.

Mm-hmm.

But, um, I just wanted to know what your thoughts are on, you know, I'm sure you've dealt with a lot of people in the corporate world, very high-end, like Wall Street kind of stuff. That's what it's comparable to. And you know, I follow Christian ethics. I do unto others as I would have them do unto me, and I do that in business. It's very litigious, and I avoid conflict as much as possible. But I digress. I wonder what your thoughts are on generally what I've said.

Well, you've said a lot, and I think you have much to be proud of instead of concerned about. You had great parents. Your father, you know, you've made provisions to take care of your father. You've talked about—

We live in a—

Go ahead.

He's 20 feet from me.

Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah, I moved him into— I own, uh—

Well, tell him I got a parking ticket in Philadelphia last month. I want to talk to him. Okay.

All right, well, we can certainly take care of that.

No, I'm teasing. I'm not sure what your question is. I mean, you said— you initially said you can't separate your work from the rest of your life. But it seems to me that you've, you've taken these principles, you've applied them. It sounds to me like you worry too much, you think too much, because you got— you, you would digress in what you were saying. You would go off one point and then on to another and on to another. And I think that's from a very, very busy mind that has taken on a lot of responsibility and a lot of sorrow when things don't work out, like with the loss of your mom and so on. And I would practice what Shakespeare said, one of my favorite quotes. I've used it several times recently. It's from King Henry VI.

He says—

and he's a king who isn't like any other king— and he says, uh, my crown is in my heart, not on my head, not decked with diamonds or Indian stones, nor to be seen. My crown is called content. A crown it is that seldom kings enjoy. I would practice being content. Just be in a state of contentment. You're doing all things well and you're very blessed. And everything's going to work for you. God bless you, and thanks for calling in. Namaste.

Let's go to Deborah, and she's calling on line 9 from Charleston, South Carolina. And welcome, Deborah, you're on the air with Dr. Dyer.

Hi, Dr. Dyer.

Hi.

Wow, can't believe I got through.

Yes, you did, because it's all perfect.

First, I want to say that my father had a practice in St. Clair Shores, and Right.

Yes.

He passed away in 1997, and, um, God, what kind of practice?

What kind of practice?

He was a podiatrist.

Uh-huh.

And well, so over the last so many years since he passed away, I've become a medium. And I don't hear people discuss this a lot on your show, but, um, we went through a lot of pain with alcoholism and also dealing with my brother's death. He was an alcoholic. And just to make a long story short, I'm just wondering how to— and I needed to speak to you about it as opposed to family members, because my sister says, you know, and she went to rehab too, she says we're jinxed.

Uh-huh.

And I started a blog, and it's all, you know, I have your book, The Tao and The Shift, and so I'm just wondering how to stay positive. I can't stay out of that lower end, you know, because I go back and forth. And I actually feel my brother with me and that he's happy where he is now, but I still have this guilt and I go back and forth. And I don't know if it's because it, you know, it happened in January.

And, um, what is your guilt about? Do you think you could have done more? You could have saved him?

Or— yeah, we had— we argued a lot, and what happened was I felt like The last year that he was going to make it, but he was actually getting worse. And I was not saying a lot, you know, with my— between my mother and my siblings. There's 4 of us, and I tried not to, you know, I went to Al-Anon and did all everything I was supposed to do, but, um, he was actually getting worse. And he was Hit by someone. Now, you know, the ironic thing is I feel so much more spiritual, but when I'm around family, it's hard to, you know—

You said he was hit by someone, but you mean, uh, in a fight or something?

No, he got hit by a drunk driver.

Oh, I see. And he was an alcoholic, is that, uh—

Yeah, we knew it was going to happen.

He's been living like this for— oh gosh, Well, he was 51, and my mother, you know, my father—

I take this the same way I take everything else that takes our lives, whatever it might be, whether it's cancer or, you know, it was an accident or some kind of an illness or just, you know, wearing away or whatever it might be, that we all come into this universe, which is such a mystery, you know, where we came from and when we come into this universe. into this world of the physical, into what Lao Tzu called the world of the 10,000 things. We come in when, uh, whatever you want to call the source— I call it God, okay— whenever God decides that, that it's time for us to be here, we go from non-being to being in one instantaneous magical moment. We're nothing, we're no thing at all, and all of a sudden we're something. And we don't get to decide that. Our ego doesn't get to decide that. Our brain doesn't. None of that. That's all decided by the great source that allows everything to come from non-being to being and go through the cycle. And we all go through the exact same cycle. Every single person, every single thing goes through the cycle: birth, growth, decay, death.

All right?

And just like our birth is not under our control, under our ego's control, neither is our death. It is all part of the perfection of the universe. And your brother died when he was supposed to do—

to die.

He lived the life that he was supposed to live. He made the choices that he was supposed to make. Very likely he is, uh, wanting to make his life be more meaningful now, now that he's gone and knows the impact particularly that it would have on you. And it's very likely with you and guiding you and, uh, and trying to persuade you to, you know, whatever it might be, whatever he feels his purpose is. But all of this guilt about, um, you know, you could have done more, you could have saved, you could have this, none of that. When you think about the hugeness of the universe, when you think about, you know, that there is a source that allows all things to go from this invisible state of nothingness to the state of somethingness and then back to nothingness, your being guilty is just a complete total waste of time. Your brother did exactly what he was supposed to do. And that doesn't mean that you just give up on all the people that are alive today who have problems with alcohol and drugs and so on. It means that you don't allow yourself to be taken in by the decisions that they make and make yourself feel guilty. He's right there with you, sweetheart, and he's, you know, he's saying, I'm in a fine place. Death is not something to be afraid of, and it's an inevitability for every single thing that's ever showed up in this physical universe, including the entire universe as well. Does that help at all? Yeah, I—

well, I see I needed to hear it from, you know, you or probably my friends at Unity Church because I'm not around enough of those people and the people in Al-Anon. I don't know, sometimes I rationalize myself out of thinking, well, they're just rationalizing.

Yeah, the other thing I heard you say something in there also about this, you know, that you're jinxed.

My sister says that, and I try to tell her, you know, it's for a higher level of awareness, and it's hard for me to go there, for me to be the one to, you know, I'm starting to feel like God in my family, and I don't want to be.

But you are. You are, sweetheart. You are God.

You are.

You are God. You are a piece of God. You, you are a fragment of God. You are, you know, what, what all of us are. We all came from the same source, and we must be like what we came from.

You are all—

you— we all have a higher self within us. It's a tiny little fragment of who we are, maybe 1/1,000,000th of a percentage, but it's still God. And the idea that you could be jinxed, that's a different universe than I live in.

Yeah, well, my sister said that to me and I thought, why did you say that? Now I'm going to spin that around in my mind, you know.

And then attract the very kinds of things that you don't want to attract— more jinxed behavior. Because the universe will offer you experiences to match up to what you're thinking and believing.

Oh, I see it and I've really The past— like, it's been a huge growth spurt the past 9 months because just of all of the things that my family has been going through— illness, right? I have an older sister who's mentally ill. But I did— I wrote about this on my blog, and I write a lot about you, and I use, you know, some of your phrases. Actually, if you knew who walked beside you— I, I use that as a, like, a metaphor for the spirit world, the people who are helping you.

Absolutely.

And my brother— yeah, I, I feel contact with him, but then sometimes I, you know, because I live in this world, I think You know, there's a part of me that I just needed to hear that from you.

Yeah, well, you're very welcome. I want to take one more call because I have a feeling somebody wants to get through, really important. Thank you.

God bless you.

Namaste.

Yes, what a great call. Guilt is just a wasted feeling, I think. Yeah, well, let's squeeze in another person.

I don't know how much time we have, but I just felt for some reason there was somebody waiting who wanted to say something.

Oh yeah, definitely. Well, we have 6 minutes. That's certainly time to chat with somebody.

Okay, good.

Uh, let's go to Christine. Christine, and she's in St. Louis on line 4. And thanks for your patience, Christine.

Well, thank you for taking my call.

You're very welcome. I don't know why, but I said there's somebody waiting that needs to hear me today, so— or I need to hear one or the other. Maybe you have something to tell me. What's on your mind, Christine?

We'll see, I guess. Dr. Dyer, I just feel sort of lost, I guess. I've spent most of my time, most of my life, I feel like I'm either doing what other people want me to do or or, you know, what they think I should do. And I find myself, you know, very unsatisfied with myself, with life, and, you know, even bored.

Right.

And, you know, when I wake up in the morning, it's just like there's no enthusiasm. I have no purpose. And I just, you know, I just don't know what to do about this. I don't know how to get past these feelings and to get motivated about something, anything.

What kinds of things do other people want you to do that you do that you don't want to do?

Oh, well, you know, it could be anything. I can go back to when I was younger and maybe I wanted to take dance lessons and then, no, you can't do that, you need to do this. Or if I was in school and I never really had a chance in school to pursue or even think about what it is that I might have wanted to pursue, I had my parents telling me, no, no, No, no, you have to take typing, you have to take shorthand because you'll always be able to get a job, you know, that sort of thing.

Yeah, that's such a common story. I mean, I hear that so much and I see so much of that in my life. It's very interesting. One of the things I'm most proud of is I have 8 children. None of them have ever been told those kinds of things. And when they were told those kinds of things by teachers and friends and so on, they had parents, especially me, but parents and their mom, who would come back and say, what do you want to to do. What, you know, what's important to you. This is your life. I lived my parenting life practicing the idea of— from Kahlil Gibran in The Prophet: your children are not your children. They are the products of life's longing for itself. They come through you but not for you. And I've always lived by that. And, uh, what happens with so many parents— I mean, I just talked to someone the other day who's got a daughter who's 19 years old in college, and her mother is all upset with her because she's not taking the curriculum she wants her to take at this university at the age of 19.

Right.

And I think by the time you're 4 years old, by the time you're 4 years old, you've pretty much established your personality and the basic philosophy that you can use as a parent is guide and then step aside.

Exactly.

Because they're going to go the direction they want to go. And if they don't, they're going to feel like you do, which is upset and bored and hurt and depressed and not feeling like on purpose and so on. And the only thing I can say to you— what is your first name?

Christine.

Christine, the only thing I can say to you is that, uh, it's never too late to have a happy childhood. You know, it's, uh, you know, it's like what you can do right now is just make those decisions that you have. Have you seen the Shift?

Uh, yes, it's been some time though.

Well, you must, but that's exactly what the Shift is about. You know, it's based on the whole idea of the one of the books I wrote years back called the 10 Secrets for Success and inner peace. The second secret in there was don't die with your music still in you. You came here with music to play. You have a purpose. And just because your parents tell you that you should take typing, or your parents tell you that you can't dance, or somebody tells you that you can't do this, just because you listen to that, you know, as a youngster, doesn't mean you have to continue with those kinds of memes, you know, using them today.

And you know, I do find myself doing that even with Simple things like if someone, friends are going out to dinner, where do you want to go? And I end up, whatever you want to do. It's almost like I don't have, I don't feel that I have that choice myself. And even if somebody says, no, what do you want to do? You know, sometimes I sit there and go, I don't know. I just don't know. Because I feel like I've pushed things down inside me so much that—

Well, maybe, and maybe again you're thinking too much too. Maybe Because, you know what, I can identify with what you just said. I mean, when people say to me, where do you want to go to dinner? The truth is, I don't care where I go to dinner. You know, and it's like I don't go through a deep analytical reason why I can't make the decision and what's wrong with it. I just say, you know, wherever we go, fine. If we go to this place or if we go there, you know what, or even if we don't go to dinner.

Yeah.

It's almost like you get to a point where you're content whatever you do, wherever you are, and you may be at a much higher level than you think you are, and maybe thinking that, uh, you know, other people are pulling your strings. But I, I don't know, I hear a very strong woman in there, uh, who, uh, pretty much is in charge. How old are you?

Uh, 55.

55.

You know, are you married?

Yes.

Yeah. Children?

No.

No, I don't know.

I, I— but, but regardless, whatever it is, rewatch The Shift. Thanks for your beautiful call, and, uh, it's all, it's all perfect. Don't, don't think so. I think that's the theme for today's show, is don't think so Just let it be. Listen to the Beatles. Go back and listen to the Beatles. Let it be, let it be. There will come an answer.

Let it be.

God bless you.

Thank you.

God bless you. Namaste.

I like that. The Beatles had a lot of good philosophy.

They sure did.

They really did. In their song lyrics. Well, another great show. You got to talk to some amazing people today.

Yes.

And you will be back next week. So it was good to talk to you.

Thank you. God bless you, darling.

Dr. Wayne Dyer joins us from Maui. And Dr. Dyer, I'm just a little distracted because I heard this disturbing news about this bombing that just happened at the Boston Marathon. Details are still coming in. It's kind of sketchy, but it's just so— I don't even know what to say. It's just so disturbing that we live in a world like that where— People are just putting on random bombs.

The weapon of the terrorists these days is now bombs and killing from a distance. Yeah, I watched them. I mean, it isn't— they're going on all over. I mean, every day if you read the papers about what's going on in Iraq or Afghanistan or, you know, other parts of the world, you know, these explosions, these massive explosions that are killing, you know, large, large numbers of people. Every time I look at that and think about it and I look at all of this debate that's going on with you know, all of the guns in our society, and, and so much of our emphasis is on, uh, on what we can do to destroy each other instead of loving. I was listening to the, uh, recording that I think it sounded like your voice for Lovability, for, uh—

Yes, Robert Holden's.

Robert Holden's project. Yeah, and I've looked at that, and I think he did a really nice job. I just wonder when, when, you know, all it's going to take is just for enough of us to just Begin to sort of spread an energy and a message and a blanket of love over humanity in order to save ourselves. I mean, this whole thing about what's going on in North Korea right now with these— an army over there in that little country where everybody is starving, an army of over 1.5 million people, you know, that's just— that whole part of the world is just focused on hating people. And the answer to it is just so simple. If we just listen to If we listen to the messages of our spiritual teachers, the ones that we go to, supposedly go to synagogues and go to church and go to temples and so on to celebrate, I mean, their messages is always the same. It's just, uh, you know, just love each other. You know, that I came across a wonderful quote from Saint John of the Cross, who I studied a lot before I did my seminar on divine love in January on Maui. And he said, where there is no love, put love and you will find love. And such a simple little thing, you know. If you find places in your life and in your heart, and even as a people we need to do that. I wanted to tell this to our politicians as well, that if you, uh, where you see no love, you know, all of this anger and this hatred and so on, you see it in your relationships and you see it in your life and you see it in the way that people deal with you in business and so on. He said this way, he was a great Spanish mystic from the 16th century. The person who— you've heard the term dark night of the soul over and over— he was the person that came up with that term back in the 16th century. And he just said, where there is no love, just put love there and you will find love. And if we could just learn to do that as a people— and I'm afraid that if we don't really learn to do that, life isn't going to be able to sustain itself on this planet anyway. I mean, I was just listening the other day that if this thing in North Korea just escalated and they were to exchange the nuclear weapons that just exist between North and South Korea, if they just, you know, started exploding what they have there, that life on this planet would be unsustainable.

It's really scary. And I'm sure if you ask the people in North Korea, they just want to live and be in peace and have food to eat and live with their families just like everybody else. And it's just—

Right.

I used to say that to my— during the whole Cold War when I was out there giving so many lectures and traveling around the country and so on. And we were at the height of the Cold War. And I would ask anybody, is there anybody in this audience? There'd be 3,000, 4,000 people in the room. And I'd say, is there anybody in this audience who hates somebody in Russia? You know, some commie grandmother over there in tennis shoes that you don't like or whatever. And there was never a hand went up, never once. I said, there's no— so there's nobody. And I said, I've never had anybody come up and say that they're angry or they hate somebody in Russia. Yet we have all of these intercontinental ballistic missiles with atomic weapons potentials on them, aimed at them, and they have them aimed at us. And nobody in Russia hates anybody in America. Nobody in America hates anybody in Russia. And yet this is what we've come to. It's just that we've allowed a handful of people to just make these kinds of decisions. And the same thing is true in, uh, it's true in Korea, it's true in Iran, it's true in Iraq, it's true in Afghanistan. It's, it's true, you know. And when I was a little boy, it was, uh, we were supposed to hate the Germans and we were supposed to hate the Japanese because we were at war with them in the 1940s. I was born in 1940. And now these are our allies, and now we're supposed to love them. And some people You know, uh, we just never get the idea that whatever the problem, uh, you know, love is the answer. And, you know, David Hawkins, before he passed away, in one of his writings said that if one person that had the equivalent, uh, spiritual consciousness of Jesus Christ who walked on this planet 2,000 years ago, if we had just one person living at Christ consciousness, at Siddhi awareness, they could compensate for, and, uh, all of the negativity and the hatred and so on that exists on the planet. So that all we have to do is just begin to move more in the direction of loving each other, loving our enemies, which is what Jesus said for us to do in the Book of Luke. And where we don't find love, let's put love there and we'll find love. It's really the only solution to this thing. It's like if we just get angry at the people who are setting off these bombs and then we just come up with more bombs, it's sort of like the argument that the NRA has about, you know, how we're going to make ourselves safer. We'll make ourselves safer by having more guns, more guns and more guns and more guns.

And clearly that's not the answer.

And of course, the more of them that we make and the more weapons that we're— and the more of our energy, and how much of our world's energy is put into figuring out ways to destroy each other.

It's a cycle that we have to—

we really have to change. And I really feel that it's— I feel truly, I feel, Diane, I feel like personally responsible when these things happen, that I'm not doing enough. To get this message out. I just spoke in a Muslim country in February, in Abu Dhabi and Dubai and so on. And I look at the proliferation of hatred and weapons and, you know, ways that we are not loving each other, and know that if I could get myself to be at this level of Christ consciousness, just myself, if I could live from that, that I could really end this cycle of violence.

And that if enough of us could do it collectively, that's the 100th monkey Well, I know that there's a movement of people, and I've heard a lot of other teachers like yourself talking about it. It's just, you know, when can we finally get that to, you know, what they call critical mass, where, you know, that message will take over and be adopted by people instead of people being pushed to, you know, light these bombs and have all this violence towards each other?

Yeah, this is discouraging. There's these huge industries that are out there that their whole purpose and the reason that they exist is because of this very thing that we're talking about. If we had love in our hearts, there wouldn't be— we wouldn't have an industry that makes, um, you know, assault weapons. We just, you know, it's like, for any purpose ever, even though we have the mentality to do it. And certainly we wouldn't take our greatest scientific minds and put them in places where all of their emphasis is on creating something that can destroy all of humanity. I mean, Just think about how insane all of that is. And we absolutely know for sure that if we keep creating, just like with all of these weapons that are out there, all of these guns that are out there, the more of them that we put out there, the more accidents you're going to see, the more suicides you're going to see. You know, Rick Warren, you know, a minister in California, his son just committed suicide with a gun. He's been depressed for a big part of his life. And why are there guns available like that? You know, to that extent. And, and why do our best minds, uh, why aren't they put towards figuring out a way for all of us to live together in peace? Because ultimately, when you get enough weapons out there, there's more of them, but there's going to be more accidents. A little 2-year-old shot his mother, a 2-year-old, the day before yesterday in California, because the father had left a loaded gun under the pillow, and the little 2-year-old picked it up and put a bullet through his mother. I mean, it's just— 2 years old. I mean, it's just a baby. The more of them that are out there, the more of these kinds of accidents and things that are going to happen. The more bombs that we make, the more time we spend on nuclear energy and figuring out how to, uh, how to create bombs that are so massively destructive that they can wipe out millions of people. We have to invent new terms for it. We call it mega death now. We don't even have a term for— to describe the kind of horrific destruction that this, uh, That would take place. And we know that if we keep doing this and we keep building these and putting on, that even if people don't use them, there's going to be more accidents, incidental instances of this and so on. So my whole fear, you know, if there's so much fear out there about somebody's going to come and take away our guns, we need to have a consciousness shift where all of our guns are taken away. And anything, any instrument at all that is designed to cause harm to other people ought not to be even invented or manufactured. And anyway, that's where I come from, and I just feel kind of personally responsible. I mean, just— I don't know what happened in Boston. I mean, it's—

It just happened. That's— I was looking online just before the show started, so, you know, you'll, you'll hear more.

But it all comes— if you go to— if you source it out and find out, well, who sat down and figured out how to make this bomb, and who put it all together, and how And it all comes from hatred. It comes from this absence of having love in our hearts, of having divine love, and recognizing that who we are are pieces of God. We are all instruments of love. I don't know, I take it all very personally.

Well, we'll listen to you. And, you know, I know you're trying to share this message and spread the word. You just, you get discouraged when you hear of more and more of these kind of incidents. And my faith in mankind Hmm. Goes down a little bit.

Well, I mean, we've come to a place with hatred in our hearts where we have literally created weapons that are so massively destructive that if we were to ever use one, then we would be killing ourselves. You know, that's the kind of weapon that we've— we're such a— so much of our emphasis is on destruction and killing and so on that we now have used that within our technological know-how and so on to create things that if we were to ever use them, not only would we kill all of those other people that are out there, but the winds would blow. I don't know if you've noticed it or not, but there's no, uh, you know, there's no boundaries, uh, in the air. You know, it's like, uh, the, uh, you know, when you explode that kind of radioactive material into the air, it's gonna— the winds are gonna take it and, uh, and just end life as we know it. And instead of stopping ourselves and saying, okay, you know, so now we've got the knowledge, we know how to do things that can destroy ourselves and on our enemies and so on, but we can't even use them because if we were to use them, we would do the very thing that we just don't want to do. It's suicide. So let's just stop doing this. And somehow we don't. The hatred has— and the need to be destructive seems to be such a dominant thing in humanity.

The quest for power. Someone wants to just be in control. And if people would all collectively realize there is enough, there's abundance for everyone on this planet to have enough food, to be safe, to be happy.

And it's sad that we haven't shifted to that yet. I think that's why I was so attracted to the Tao Te Ching and the book that I wrote called Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life. And Lao Tzu, back 2,500 years ago, was just so disgusted with the warring states and the way people always wanted to fight each other and so on. And that he just said that the— just the whole concept of weapons and enemies ought not to even be a part of our consciousness. And this is what he was speaking about. That's why he, he left the warring states and didn't even want to have anything to do with that kind of a mentality. And here we are, 2,500 years later, and we just went through the bloodiest century in the history of humanity, and, um, on line to pass that up on the one that we're in now unless we create this kind of divine love. That is something that I think about in the every single day, every time I hear about another incident, another death, another war, another explosion, another ramification of the, of the kinds of thinking that— and we have to change our thoughts. And if we change our thoughts individually, we'll change our lives. And if we change our lives individually, when enough of us do it, we'll change our thoughts collectively. And that's the only possibility that we have for ending this cycle of violence that has really taken over on our planet.

It was definitely something to think about. Well, we do have all of our callers. We have about 8 minutes. Did you want to grab some?

Sure, absolutely.

Okay, this seems like a good one. Let's go to line 5, Janelle in Florida. And Janelle, you're our first caller today. Thanks for joining the show. Janet, are you there? Janet? Okay, I said I had seen the wrong name there. It looked like Janelle. I'm sorry, it's Janet in Florida. I apologize. You're on with Dr. Dyer.

Hi, how are you? Nice to talk to you, Dr. Dyer. I'm reading Wishes Fulfilled for the 3rd time.

Oh good, me too. I read it over and all the time.

Where are you in Florida?

Um, in Temple Terrace, just outside of Tampa.

Oh, okay.

And what's on your mind today, my dear?

Well, my husband has a son He's our stepson. He's 28 years old. And he has been in jail for several weeks on a burglary charge related to drug use. And we bailed him out with the promise that he would get a job. You know, he lives with his mother in Texas and, you know, pay some— pay her some rent and try to, you know, get his life back on track. And he was no sooner out and he was back in again for doing exactly the same thing again.

And this has been a repetitive Uh, for more than half his life, and we just are at a loss on how to help him anymore.

Yeah. What kind of drugs is he taking, do you know?

He takes, um, he has taken heroin. He has— smokes marijuana regularly. But, uh, we— he tells us he takes whatever he can get his hands on. All right.

Yeah, I wish I had an— I wish I had an answer for you. I've got the same thing going on in my own family. I have a daughter who's had addictions to prescription drugs, Adderall particularly, that she has battled. She's almost 30. She's been battling it since she was a teenager.

Yeah.

And so, um, the only answer I have on all of this is that, um, that you have to love them through it. And I know that sounds— and loving them through it doesn't necessarily mean being a victim to them, right? But it means— you heard what I said at the beginning of this from that quote from Saint John of the Cross. Saint John of of the Cross was a Spanish mystic. He lived back in the 16th century, and he was this beautiful soul, was the person who really wrote about divine love and what it means and so on. And what he said— this is now the 3rd time I've said it in this today, so I guess this must be important— is that where there is no love, put love, and, and you will find love. And this is a very insidious kind of thing, this, these kinds of addictions, especially if he's done these hard drugs that you've mentioned. I don't think the smoking of marijuana is the issue. I think it's, um, you know, that if he's got this kind of dependency— Carl Jung once said that you don't solve your problems, you outgrow them. And, um, I found that that was true for me in overcoming my addictions in my life. And I've, uh, you know, I haven't had any alcohol in my body in a quarter of a century, but I just, uh, I just kind of outgrew the need to, um, continuously put things into my body that were destroying my brain cells. And the same thing is true of your stepson, that if he can— but he has to know that there are people around him who aren't judging him.

It's very hard. My husband feels like a victim, like he's being manipulated to get what he wants. And he felt he would leave him in jail several weeks till he started making phone calls. He would make phone calls that were very threatening and accusatory. He left him in there long enough until he got to a point where he said, I really want to change my life. And I get the feeling that maybe he was testing the water to see which one would work for the bail money.

No, no, honestly, Janet, that's not what's happening with him. Not at all, I promise you. What's happening with him when he says he really doesn't want to do this and he really wants to get his life together is that he's just having temporary little incursions with his, uh, into his higher self. The highest place within him is a place of well-being. Believe me, he wants to be free of this, uh, this prison that he's trapped in himself. And when he says those kinds of things, it's coming from a place of this is what he wants to do. What he's also saying is, I don't know how and I don't have the strength. And sometimes the way that you show, you know, loving someone doesn't necessarily being the victim like your husband feels. But if you can just change the judgment, if you can just get the judgment out, you know, that the door doesn't open for us into higher consciousness until we have no judgment, criticism, or condemnation toward towards any of God's children. I mean, that's right out of the I Am Discourses. And this is also what Lao Tzu said as well, that as long as your, your thoughts are focused on judgment, anger, condemnation, criticism, what's wrong, you're actually in the same energy that he is. You're just expressing it in a more socially acceptable way. That makes a lot of sense. But it's still— yeah, it's still hatred, and it's still anger, and it's still condemnation, and it's still— and you have to love him Honestly, Janet, you have to love him the way that God loves you and him and your husband as well, which is a love that says that you don't have to do anything. You don't owe me. You don't have to please me. I love you not because of what you do or don't do. I love you because what I am is love, and that's all I have to give away. And as you begin to give that away, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes the best way to give it away is to let him stay in a jail cell and take the consequences of his contact. And sometimes the I remember a conversation I had with my daughter many, many years ago, and I'll share it with you. She came home and she was about 17 or 18 years old, and she would— the weekends were just horrible, and she would come home and she was drunk, or she had been drinking, or she had been doing drugs or whatever. And it was about 4 or 5 in the morning, and I had gone through another sleepless night and another sleepless night, and it was just, you know, waiting and trying to find her and not knowing quite what to do. and so on. And finally she came stumbling in and she was walking up the walkway towards the house and she looked at me and I was ready to just launch into another, you know, here you go again, this is what you've done, and so on. And she stopped me. She said, Dad, Dad, before you even yell at me, she said, could I have a hug?

Oh, nice.

And I put my arms around her and I just said, yes, yes, you can have a hug. And it was like I needed to go to be in that place where I could just love her no matter what. It's just as much a test for you and your husband as it is for him. And when you get to that, you'll see it, um, you'll see changes taking place. Love them through it.

Love him through it.

Yeah. Thank you, darling. Love you.

Let's go to Barbara on line 1. This is a good question, and she's calling from Vista, California. And welcome to the show, Barbara.

Oh, thank you so much.

And you're on with Dr. Dyer. Go ahead with your question.

Hi, Barbara.

Hi, I'm just so thrilled to be talking to you. I've seen you in person like 4 times and it's just a thrill for me.

I see myself in person every day.

Right.

And I'm actually tired of them. I'm looking for somebody else here. But as they say, you know, just be yourself. Everybody else is already taken. So there's nobody else to be.

Dr. Dyer, I'm going to be 67 in May, and I've been retired for 8 years. May 12th.

Oh, 2 days after me.

Yes, and I've been retired for 8 years and been happily retired, but I keep listening to you and I keep hearing you talk about being of service to others and how much you enjoy your work and don't even consider it work and would never consider retiring. And a new program has come into my life called Psych-K. This is Bruce Lipton's and Rob Williams' work.

Yes.

And I discovered it about 5 years ago, and it has literally changed my life. I am a totally different person now than I was 5 years ago.

Tell me about it before you go on. What is it?

PSYCH-K® is a process that's used to change subconscious beliefs. It's a very simple and easy process to identify your limiting beliefs or perceptions, and it's a streamlined way to help people change to beliefs that better serve them.

Hmm.

And I was just shocked at how easy it is. And since then, I've been working with other people, and I just— it blows me away how much it helps people. It just really changes all those subconscious beliefs that are interfering with them getting to the life they really want. It helps.

It's so amazing, yeah, that you say that, Barbara, because, you know, I mean, I wrote a book called Excuses Be Gone, which is— and these, these, what, what you're calling subconscious mind or subconscious training is really just a, just a huge catalog of excuses that we have incorporated into our lives from our interactions with our society and with our parents and with the world and the teachings and business and so on. And we've come up to this place where we kind of believe that, uh, we're very limited, that we're all ordinary, that there's only so far we can go, there's only so much we can do, there's so many limitations that are out there. And, um, changing our subconscious mind is—

and Bruce Lipton, of course.

Bruce and I just did a program together in, uh, that we taped, and it's going to be out as a program in probably the next 6 months or so. I have a great deal of respect for him. I put him on my PBS special, The Biology of Belief. In fact, when that book came to me, it was a self-published book, and I sent it to Hay House and asked them to please publish this. It was— and then I put it on PBS and it became one of the gifts on public television. So I have great affinity and love for Bruce. I don't know who's the other person with him.

Rob Williams. Rob Williams is the one who created the Psyche-K, and then when he met Bruce Lipton, it's like all of the scientific basis for Bruce's work supports the processes that Rob uses. So they have joined forces for the Psyche-K. So now I would like to—

How do you spell Psyche-K? Tell me how you spell that.

Okay, Psych-K.

Okay.

Yeah, it's for the psyche, or the mind, or the soul, and kinesiology. So you use muscle testing to access the subconscious, and then you use, you know, whole brain hemispheric work.

So give me an example before we get into your question. Give— I love this.

Give me an example of something in— you're 67 years old. Something that was embedded into your subconscious mind that you— don't tell me how you did it, but tell me if you can, something, anything that you've shifted, that you've really removed it, pulled it out of your subconscious mind and said, it's no longer going to be there for me at this time, at this stage of my life. What would be the thing that stands out the most?

The very first thing, the first weekend training that I went to, I weighed over 200 pounds.

Mm-hmm.

I had many health problems. I was on many prescription drugs, and I worked on being my ideal weight.

Mm-hmm.

I have now lost over 50 pounds. I have totally changed my eating habits, and I have gotten off of almost all my prescription drugs. I no longer have many of the conditions that I had 5 years ago. Hmm. And in addition to that— go ahead, go ahead.

No, no, you go ahead. I'm listening. You're my teacher right now. I'm very interested in what you're saying, and so are hundreds of thousands of other people as well.

Well, and it's just— it's amazing how many things— I was having a lot of problems with my daughter. I was listening to your former caller Right. And we were having some of the same issues with my daughter, and I was really struggling with how to work with her. And in using some of the PSYCH-K processes, I realized it— my difficulty really stemmed from my not loving myself.

Hmm.

And I was able to change that to where I really began to love myself. Therefore, I could then love her. And it totally changed the dynamics of our relationship.

It's interesting.

I just—

I read a wonderful book. You'll love this book. I know you'll read it too. It's actually— it's 2 books. One is called The Last Barrier, and the other one is called To Know We Are Loved, and written by a man named Rashad Field. That's F-E-I-L-D, not the other way around. He's from England. He was a, um— it's very interesting how it came to me because It's, uh, this man is still alive. In fact, he's very anxious to meet him. He's a Sufi, and, um, he met this great teacher in London and who told him to go to Turkey. And he met this, and he became a Sufi. And he wrote these 2, uh, he wrote actually a lot of books, but these 2 are basically just stories. Very easy to read, very interesting, and how things show up in your life. You know, I'm sure you think, you know, you probably thought, you know, before this showed up in your life that that you were pretty much, you know, ready now to retire and, you know, you'll move out of your body when it, you know, it's going through the aging process and you're going to be 200 pounds and you're going to be on prescription drugs and all that.

And something showed up in your life. How this came into your life, I don't really know, but it's the same energy that brought these 2 books into my life and that bring this conversation together. Mm-hmm.

And I was in Scotland and, um, there's a woman over there who's the UK, uh, director. Her name is Michelle. And I said, look, people had given me a whole bunch of books and things to— and I said, like, I'm traveling back to Hawaii, could you just mail these to me? And she said, okay. So I had this big stack of books and I put them in a box and she wrapped them up and she shipped them off to me. And they got here about a month later. I got back and about a month later I opened up the box and there's The Last Barrier right at the top in this old—

it was like this book that was written back in the '70s. I say old because then That's when I was writing books in the '70s, and I think those are brand new, you know.

But anyway, it was yellowed and it had been out in the sun, and it was just this little book. And so I called Michelle. I said, Michelle, this book, uh, The Last Barrier, I said, why did you include this in the box? She said, um, I didn't put it in the box. She said, I have no idea how it got in there.

Wow.

I said, but I was there when we wrapped the box up. I said, did you open and put it back in there? She said, no.

She said So this is one of those like wonderful mysteries, you know, that show up in your life.

So I look at this book box, uh, in this book, and I said, this— I mailed this to myself and it wasn't in there, and now it's in there.

I don't know how to explain those kind of things, not with my mind anyway.

Yeah.

So I read that and I found out that that was this part of a trilogy. It was the first of 3 books, and the second of that trilogy is called To Know We Are Loved. And, um, basically the essence of it is— it's a Sufi teaching— the essence of it is if If we could know that not only that we are loved, but that we are love, you know, that that's basically who we are. We're not this body and we're not these possessions. And we know that we're not this body because, you know, you were in a—

10 years ago you were in a 57-year-old body and there's not one cell left of that body in there.

And you believe that's who you were. So certainly now, you know, you're in this 67-year-old body and, uh, and you look at it and you say, okay, so I am—

this is who I am, this body.

But then you realize you're not that at all, that who you are is something that is beyond the world of the physical. And that thing that we are beyond the world of the physical is love. And all we have to do is know that we are loved. And once we know this, we then align ourselves with the source of all, which is God, or whatever you want to call it, the Tao. And that is love as well. And then as you're aligned with that, when you stay in alignment with that, it offers you whatever experiences that you need that are aligned with that love will be there for you. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Oh, absolutely.

And so it's like all we have to do is stay in that place of love, and you just called it loving yourself. But all you— it really is just about just staying in that place, and then you're aligned with the source of all, which is the creator of all things. So you become the creator, so you become God, you become a piece of God. And that's what Wishes Fulfilled really is about. And that's what, you know, Bruce and I have done a lot of work together But that's basically what he is teaching, what I am teaching, what we're all teaching, is just to stay in this place of love. And it's what the theme of this show, I guess, is— how we overcome our addictions. It's how we overcome our illnesses. It's how we overcome our bad backs that I'm dealing with right now, you know, and your addiction to pharmaceutical drugs to keep you— and your addiction to overeating and not exercising and so on. It all just comes back to just I'm just going to stay in this place of love. And then you're aligned with God because God is love.

That's all that God is.

And it's like to try to understand what this kind of divine love is, is to try to understand a love, Barbara, that has no opposite. You know, have you read Anita's book, Anita Moorjani's Dying to Be Me?

Yeah, and I've bought many copies and give them away.

Yeah, me too. And basically that's what she said when she was in that state, in that quote other realm. Wasn't she just saying, I was just in a state of love that was so overwhelming and so overpowering that there was no opposite? In other words, when we think of, of anything, if you think of joy, you know, just feeling joy, just feeling the sense of, oh, I feel so joyous, then you say, well, how do you know what joy is? Well, the only way that you can know what joy is is by what is the opposite of joy. Well, it's distress, it's sadness, it's depression, it's fear, it's worry.

It's all of these.

So we live in this world of dichotomies, don't we? I mean, it's like where there's ups and there's downs and there's goods and there's bads. But if you look at the Gospel of Saint Thomas, that was, um, the words of Jesus that were discovered at Nag Hammadi in 1945, the Dead Sea Scrolls. In the words of Jesus, one of the most powerful words— and I underlined this yesterday when I was reading— he said, when you make one of the two, then you know the kingdom of heaven. In other words, you take the two away The 2, which is love and hate, and you just move it to oneness, which is just love. That's what you'll experience in the kingdom of heaven. That's what you'll experience when you come to know God, that it's a love that doesn't have an opposite. It's a joy that has no opposite to it. That's all you experience is joy. And that's basically what the highest awareness is. That's what divine love really is. It's getting to that place where there are no more opposites. You know, it's just nothing but love. That's all I have to give away. That's what I am. That's, you know, and it's getting rid of all of the other stuff where we've edged God out and we call it the ego. Sorry, I'm going on a little rant there, but it's, uh—

Well, it was interesting. I had a dream last week that I was talking to you on this radio program, and I don't remember many of my dreams, but this one And I woke up, and it was so vivid, and it has stayed with me. And I think part of it is because everything we've talked about today is what I hope to help other people to achieve. It's that working with people, you know, one at a time, helping them to know that love.

Mm-hmm.

And for me, the vehicle is through the Psych-K. And as I mentioned, I really want to become an instructor. One of the first things I have to do is to sponsor 2 workshops and get at least 12 participants. And I have been using the wishes fulfilled steps and visualizing it.

Declaring it.

Yes.

Declare it as an already existing fact. This is the hardest thing to do, Barbara, for most of us, because you are thinking, I would like to attract 12 people. Instead of saying, I already have 12 people. No, they're already here. I'm not going to use my senses and what my eyes and my ears tell me is reality, because if you listen to them, there's no people there. So you have to declare it as an already existing fact. He sees things that do not exist as if they were.

This is speaking of God.

He sees those things which do not exist as though they did. That's basically your lesson for that.

Yeah.

Tell me about the dream.

Oh, it was—

like I say, it was so clear. I got through, which, I mean, how often does this happen, right?

Very, very rarely, right?

And I was talking to you, and I gave my contact information, and the workshops were full.

Hmm.

And that was the dream.

Wow.

And like I say, it's just his state with me. So can I give my contact information?

Absolutely. I was just going to ask you to do that. Yeah, do it. Do it clearly and slowly.

My website is yourharmoniouslife.com.

That's it, yourharmoniouslife.com.

And my email is bwalk4@cox.net.

Cox.

And I have— pardon?

At Cox, Cox.

Cox, uh-huh.

Mm-hmm.

bwalk4@cox.net.

Hmm.

And I have 2 workshops scheduled, and they're going to be held in Vista, which is North County San Diego. We're about 30 miles north of San Diego. We border Carlsbad and Oceanside. So it's a wonderful place. When are you doing this? The first one is June 1st and 2nd, and the second one is July 27th, 28th. Perfect place for vacations.

Absolutely. So just tell me in the real shortened version, what is it that you are doing in attempting to reprogram long-held subconscious ideas?

The first thing you have to do is to identify what those subconscious beliefs are that your higher self are ready to change, and that's done through these PSYCH-K processes. It's very quick and easy, and then you use what's called whole brain balances in order to achieve that. It can be as quick as 1 minute, some of them take 5 minutes, some of them take a little bit longer, but they're very quick and easy and they're lasting. That's the beauty of it. I've worked with a number of women who have come from out of very abusive situations, either as children or marriages. And it's also a way of rescripting those very stressful events in their life. They can release the trauma, and it's just amazing to see the difference.

I hear such an excitement in you. I wish you were coming to Denver to this writer's workshop. But more than you reaching out and teaching other people these things that you have learned, What intrigues me, Barbara, about your call is what you've done for yourself. I mean, you've gone from a person who was old and getting ready to die and sick and fat to someone who is alert and sharp and filled with high energy and knowing that you are on purpose. Your dharma is being fulfilled. You have literally found your excitement.

Mm-hmm.

And when you find your excitement, what happens is that you are supported And it becomes effortless because your excitement is who you are. Your excitement is that which makes you feel love for the moment that you're in. And when you find that and align with that, the universe, God, that which you are connected to at all times, uh, sends you experiences that match up to this new assessment that you have of yourself. And this new assessment that you have of yourself is one that eliminates your dependencies. It eliminates the belief systems that have kept you from there. And I hear a strong, dynamic woman who's thrilled with the idea, not so much of what you've done for yourself. You're not just happy that you've lost 50 pounds and that you're no longer on a lot of prescription medications. You're happy because you are, you're helping other people to feel the love that you feel.

Yes.

And that's why you're supported, and that's why you got through on this phone call, and that's why your workshops were filled up. So give your Your, your, your website one more time?

yourharmoniouslife.com.

Okay, they can get you from there. Thank you for a beautiful call, and I look forward to seeing you again real soon. Come up and say hello the next time you're in the audience.

Oh, thank you, and I will look into the Denver in 2 weeks and just see if that's possible. I hadn't thought about it before, but your personal invitation, I was like, oh my goodness.

There's only—

I think Reed told me this morning there's only There's only 6 seats left in that.

Okay, I'll look at it quickly.

It's at the Brown Hotel in Denver, but it's also going to be online.

But I'd love to see you there.

Perfect. Although you're so skinny now, I won't even be able to recognize you.

No, I just look real good.

I bet you do. God bless you, dear.

Dr. Dyer, thank you so much.

You're very welcome. Much love to you.

That's so great. And just to tell Barbara, you know, Louise Hay didn't start Hay House until her 60s.

I was going to say, I was thinking of— I was going to think of what But I was thinking also of Louise there, Diane, when she said, the only thing I had to do is learn to love myself. You know, and that's what Rashad Field says. It's like the key to all of it is to just to know that we are loved.

Right. That's it. That's the key. So we just have 2 minutes. I don't know. Shall we grab some more quick?

Oh my goodness. Yeah, let's take somebody that even if it just takes 2 minutes, let's just say hello.

This would be an easy question, I think, to answer. Let's go to Nadir in Switzerland. Nadir. And I hope he's still there. Thanks for being patient.

Yes, we've spoken before.

We've talked a couple times.

Yes, I remember. I remember the name Nadir. Yes, yeah, yeah, opposite of tennis, right?

I just wanted to once again express my gratitude for all that you've done and for the raising of the energy of this planet. We can be so grateful to have people and teachers like you.

Oh, well, thank you so much. Every time I read about another one of these, uh, these tragedies, things, I think it's just, it's just more incumbent upon myself, who has this inner calling to understand and practice and live divine love, Yeah. to put that out there instead of just my immediate reaction when I hear, you know, people sending off explosions or wanting to, you know, have more guns and so on. My immediate The immediate ego-based reaction is always, you know, we just got to get rid of those people, you know. But that's the wrong way to be. It's like we have to just say the solution to all of this is just for more of us and more and more of us to become more God-centered, God-realized people.

I practiced this with your meditation, by the way, with the japa meditation.

Yeah, the japa meditation and the I Am Wishes Fulfilled meditation.

The I Am Wishes Fulfilled, yes.

Both of them have.

Yeah. Well, thank you, Nadir, for your call. We've we've got to go. We're on our way out. God bless you.

And I thought he would have a quick meditation question, but I'm glad he was able to jump on, and we will speak again soon.

Okay.

God bless you, Dr. Dyer. How is Maui treating you today?

Maui is just perfect, and I was just looking at the at the hurricane Ike. That just went through the Houston area and Galveston and wreaked an enormous amount of damage. I always think back to the research that I read by Emoto, who was a Hay House author as well, the Japanese fellow who did all of the work on water. It always reminds me whenever I see water doing those kinds of things that, you know, that we are 75% water, our brains are 85% water, and the planet is 75% water. 75% water. And, um, you know, a lot of his research showed that, you know, even when you put water into a container that has words on it such as hatred and anger and revenge and killing and so on, that the water crystallizes in very different shapes and forms than when it is in a container that has love and kindness and caring for each other and so on. So that everything Everything, everything on the planet is energy, particularly water. And when we see these kinds of damaging kinds of things, I always think consciousness is located in us and as human beings. And when our consciousness is off, when we are out of harmony with God consciousness, which is just loving each other and caring for each other and providing for each other and serving each other and giving to each other, which is all God. Whatever the source is, whatever you want to call it, it's always in that constant state of thinking about creating and loving and giving and so on. That when we get out of that, we get out of balance. And when we get out of balance, and enough of us collectively get out of balance, we impact the environment and the world around us. And certainly water is perhaps the most important substance on the planet for all of life. If you don't think it's important, just try going without it for a few days. For a few hours or a few days and you'll see what happens. So it's just, to me, it's always a reminder to stay in a peaceful, loving place and see if we can bring a little more tranquility, a little bit more peace to ourselves and to our world. And in the meantime, you know, all of the— I made a commitment this morning to send some money to the so many of the people who are left homeless in that part of the world and had all of their belongings taken away from them. So if you're In a spirit of generosity, just, uh, even if you just send a few dollars to the Red Cross or, or people who are providing assistance and help and guidance to those who are having difficult times like this, it's a good thing to do. Also, the same thing applies to this horrible train crash that took place in Southern California just a few days ago. There's an awful lot of people who need help and assistance there, so have a generous heart. That's my message this morning.

Mm-hmm.

And stay in peace. Stay in peace and keep the water calm because we're all water. We all are it. We need it, and we we live on it and in it and around it. And if you read the Tao Te Ching or if you read Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life, you can see that 27 of the verses of the Tao refer to water as the most important teacher on our planet. It always stays low. That is, it allows all of the rivers and streams above it to flow into it. It always stays soft, and it overflows. Love overcomes everything and it enters any place where there is an opening. So, all great, great lessons for us. That's my lesson this morning.

Can I add one lesson? And when it gets really, really bad, it makes huge hurricanes.

It does. That's exactly what I was saying. The size of that storm, it was 900 miles across. It was as big as the entire state of Texas. I don't know if you've ever driven across the state of Texas, but if you start out on Monday, it takes till about Thursday to get across. It's a very, very big place, and that was the size of the storm. And I'm of firm conviction that when enough of us collectively get to a new level of consciousness in our hearts, we can slow down the impact, especially of things like earthquakes and water damage and droughts and so on. So much of it has all evolved around the concept of water. So stay at peace, have a peaceful heart.

Well, Dr. Dyer, let us maybe go to our first caller. Now who has a question for you, and perhaps you can set her heart at ease and peace.

Sure.

Marion is on line 1. She's calling from Prince Edward Island. Marion, welcome. You're listening to Dr. Wayne Dyer's Inspiration.

Oh yes, hello. Thank you so much for taking my call.

Oh, you're very welcome. How are you?

Oh, I'm well. I've called in a few times, but I've never gotten through, so I'm so excited to get through today.

Well, we We have to hang up on you now, sorry.

Oh no, please!

Okay, all right, you talked me into it.

Okay, no, just a second. Daddy?

I hear some kids there in the background.

Sorry about that.

That's okay.

We all have kids, Marian. Yeah, I know about that.

Yeah, I'm actually— I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1999.

Mm-hmm.

And since that time, I've looked at all your work and, you know, I've just gained so much strength from that.

Thank you.

Yeah, well, it's wonderful. You're like my mentor.

Oh, well, thank you.

And so what I'm dealing with now is I believe that I can heal my condition.

Mm-hmm. So do I.

And I did like the kinesiology test, and you know, I was strong in that. So because that, that says that I do believe it, right?

Mm-hmm.

So now I'm just wondering, I'm— why I seem to like not be able to kind of like improve my leg because My walking has been bad and like it's been at different times bad and worse. And now it's like I'm just wondering what I'm doing because I think it's something in my thinking that's holding it back, but I'm not—

I'm not sure.

Yeah, let me give you— let me see if I can help you with that. It's, uh, I mean, it's a pretty big challenge because you've probably been raised to believe, as so many of us have, and we watch the Jerry Lewis telethons, and, uh, you know, and we've seen a lot of the medical propaganda, if you will, or information about such diseases as this. And most of the time, our conclusions after we listen to that, or we hear about it, or we read something about it, is it becomes like an internal— they call them memes. It's a belief system that we have that's injected into us unconsciously from the minds of other people. And we begin to believe that these things are incurable, that there's nothing that we can do about it, that if you do get this disease— and because the history of this particular disease and so on is that very few people have overcome it, and the ones that have, it's been just like a miracle and so on— we get within us, uh, built into our consciousness in a subconscious kind of way, a set of beliefs that such a thing is really impossible. And banishing the doubt about your ability to heal yourself of something like MS is, um, is probably the most important, uh, undertaking that you're going to have, more so than your medication and your treatments and, and all of the other things that you do, is to, to get to that place within you where you really begin to understand that you have— that you are a piece of God and you must be like what you came from. And that God, or Source, or Spirit, whatever you want to call it, is not a withholding God. It doesn't— it isn't saying, okay, Marion, I I see that you've got this disease. I know how to cure it for you, but I'm going to withhold that information from you because you have to do the following things, or you have to pay money, or you— whatever it might be. And you have to get the fact that this isn't the way the universe works. This isn't the way Source is. This isn't the way God is. That you are already connected to a source of healing and well-being that is very, very powerful. 2 books that I think would really be very important for you to read at this time. One is called, um, The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton. I recommend that you, that you get that. The other is, which is the one that really fascinated me, it's called Train Your Mind, Change Your Brain. And, um, I can't remember the woman's name, but it's— she's the, uh, Sharon— it'll come to me. At any rate, uh, it's a real hard look at, uh, the what we can do with our mind. When we begin to have thoughts of a disease or of doubt and so on. And a lot of the real hard scientific evidence that we can literally change around the brain— and MS is a neurological thing, it's something that, you know, is located, you know, in the neurological system, in the brain. And you can change your brain, and you can, you know, then the Biology of Belief teaches us that you can even change your DNA. The problem with it is that it's so difficult to overcome— that's not the right word. It is not difficult. It is just— it's not something that we've learned.

Right.

To begin to have such an incredible, overwhelming sense of banishing doubt that there's a knowing that substitutes for that doubt. And when you get to that place, when you have an absolute knowing— that's why reading these kinds of things and looking at some of these kind of studies and seeing examples of people who have overcome, you know, that situation and much, much worse, especially with MS, there's a lot of information in that book about multiple sclerosis.

Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah. Train Your Mind, Change Your Brain. It's got a lot of science and a lot of— the Dalai Lama is all over it. It was the group of people who came to and worked with the Dalai Lama every year up in Lhasa in Tibet, and they looked at all of the research from all of the people all over the world who have been focusing on helping people to train their brain to become different than they are. One of the very simple exercises that you do that I learned in this book is that when you begin to talk to— when you begin to think of your brain as something that is— instead of like whenever you have— let's say something happens with your leg and it doesn't work the way you want it to, or you don't move the way you want to, or, you know, the progress isn't there that you want to— instead of having your brain go into this kind of a response to that which says, oh, Oh, here it goes again. Oh, I'm not— I'm doing something wrong, which is what you were saying in your call.

Yeah, and that's what I think I'm doing.

Yeah, it's exactly what you do. And see, when your brain goes into that, when you start telling your brain and your mind— remember, your mind is not necessarily in your brain. Your mind, you know, your mind is everywhere. I mean, it's in all of the, you know, the morphogenetic fields that surround you. So it's not just in your brain. But the minute that you start talking to your brain from your mind with this kind of a consciousness, It reacts the way it always has reacted before. It says, oh, this isn't working, this isn't something, and it begins to respond that way. If you can shift that— and, you know, they've done this with depression as well— when you can put your thoughts on, oh, there goes my brain again, oh, it's just misfiring, that isn't the way it's going to work any longer, and you begin to retrain it, especially when you have one of those kinds of thoughts that are going to send it back instead of make it go forward, the brain changes. That's right. Changes. They do MRI studies on it just before and just after, and they see these infinitesimally small changes, chemical changes, that take place in the brain as you begin to put your focus on it working, on moments in your life when you overcame things, on feeling powerful, on, on feeling connected to God. In other words, you've got to really get it down into the core of how you And how your brain is working and get such a knowing inside of you that this is not only a possibility, it is your reality, and you are in the process of working with it, then it begins to change. This is particularly true of MS, and it's particularly true of depression, of severe depression as well, which is very similar, by the way. How does that sound?

Well, that sounds good.

I'm right now— they recommended this. I'm on this treatment. It's a form of chemotherapy. I have it every 3 months for a 2-year period. And I'm just wondering, like, chemotherapy just seems to be such a—

Yeah, do you believe in it?

I don't know. I don't not believe in it.

I don't— Do you believe in it?

I can't say I believe in it.

It's just—

I'm just starting it, so—

Yeah, so do you use it?

And I have seen improvement, a slight improvement since I started it.

I started it.

Have you?

Yes, I have.

But the word chemotherapy is a really frightening kind of concept, isn't it?

Yes, I think that's the problem is I think that just the word makes it frightening.

Yeah, absolutely, but it isn't at all. I mean, chemo, it just means chemistry, and everything in the universe is chemistry, including water. You know, it's just hydrogen and oxygen. That's right there in the periodic tables. They're right in there. So what you've done is you've trained yourself to believe that such a concept— and there are many, many, many people, cancer survivors who've had chemotherapy and completely been healed by it. It's like, that's why I'm trying to get at you, to see that your brain changes when you don't believe in something. It's at that moment that you have that doubt that you introduce that doubt. Shakespeare said, our doubts are our traitors. And then it's like getting past the traitors in your life. And if you're going with the chemotherapy, just say, well, hell, everything is chemistry, and I'm going with it, and I'm going to embrace it, and I know that it's going to And I see these little bits of improvement, and I get encouraged by that. I get excited by that. As you do these kinds of things, as you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. Your whole consciousness will change. I also have a little CD program out through Hay House. You can get it. It's called The Secrets of Your Own Healing Power. Just ask for that. And we got to go. We're going to a break. They're giving me all kinds of clues we're going off.

I love you.

And, uh, and you're on your way to being healed, baby. I promise. God bless you.

And by the way, the author of that book is Sharon Begley.

Begley.

Sharon Begley.

That's right.

And you can find Dr. Dyer's at, of course, drwaynedyer.com. And we'll be coming right back after this break. Before we went to the break, I was trying to refer you to Dr. Wayne Dyer's website. That is drwaynedyer.com. drwaynedyer.com. You can find his touring and traveling schedule. You can find out about his weekend retreat in Maui in October coming up.

Mm-hmm.

As well as any of his books or CDs that he might talk about during this program. If you're interested, just go check out that site. Also, please visit hayhouseradio.com where you can find more of this very show archived for your listening pleasure. I also have a program there that airs every Tuesday called Flow Dreaming, and that is Tuesdays at 11 AM Pacific time, and that's where I get to talk for a little while about my thoughts on manifesting and the power of Speaking of changing your mind and changing your brain. Well, Dr. Dyer, we have many people still waiting to speak with you. A great call, I think. Interesting subject, at least. We'll find out coming up. Right now, we have Cindy from Chicago, Illinois, on line 9. Cindy, welcome. You're live with Dr. Wayne Dyer.

Hi.

Hi, Cindy.

I'm so excited to finally get through.

Oh, good.

Yeah, well, like your previous caller, I too was suffering from— I had scleroderma and just had a stem cell transplant, and it has completely turned the disease around and is eliminating it. I'm like—

Oh my goodness, wonderful.

I feel so much better. I can move again. It's just given me my life back. I mean, I was to the point where I needed help getting out of bed. I was taking over 30 pills a day. I just— and it was just progressing really, really fast and was going internal. You know, that's how that disease kills people, is it hardens your lungs and your intestines. And so that—

And you had a stem cell—

I had a stem cell transplant. So, I had a stem cell transplant where they take your own stem cells and they filter them through this magic machine that kind of looks like a dialysis machine, and they pull out healthy stem cells and they store those. And while they're storing those, they're suppressing your immune system.

Mm-hmm.

So, I also had chemotherapy to suppress my immune system. Once your immune system is basically like taken down to zero where it's like a brand new immune system, they put these healthy stem cells in that have no memory of scleroderma and they start growing and just going in and basically my vision was kind of like a Pac-Man, like just eating up, like, oh, here's some bad stuff. There's bad cells inside of Cindy, let's get rid of those. And just, you know, it's just been like a miracle. It's still— it was a study group that I was in, but it's done quite a bit for MS, remarkable results for MS patients.

Oh my goodness. So, Mary Ann, I know you're still listening, so listen to what Cindy has to say to you. And also, it just hits me that stem cells and stem cell research and all of this, there's so much talk about this in the political arena.

Oh yeah.

People in Washington and politicians, you know, sitting around in committees deciding because of some position that they may have taken through their religion or whatever that stem cells ought not to be there. You have to, you know, as this election approaches, just look at that. Look at that kind of, you know, the kind of information that we have out there. And, you know, don't let ourselves be electing people that are gonna keep people like Cindy from healing themselves.

Right. I'd say that this past 8 years of administration has probably set this kind of treatment back 20 years, you know.

Really?

So, yeah, but this happens to be where they use your own, so it's not quite controversial. But the other certainly would be beneficial. But so now, you know, here I was in this position where I was given this death sentence, and now I have a new life. And so I kind of feel like, you know, what am I supposed to do with this? I've been given this.

Well, you know what, Cindy? You just said what you're to do with this. What you are to do with this this is to get out on the campaign trail, uh, and I don't mean necessarily politically, and to write your story and to get on television and radio and to, you know, do newspaper interviews and to make— you know, this is a good start so that you can become an instrument of peace, of healing, of joy for many other people and, and begin to educate people.

Right.

I would speak in homes where people have these kinds of diseases. I mean, I would make this my That's my life's mission.

Yeah, I have, you know, for people that I have met with the disease, I have certainly done that and given them— it's being done at Northwestern Hospital here in Chicago by Dr. Byrd. He's the founder of it, and he has stood up even for the Scleroderma Foundation. They are not even recognizing it. They believe in like radiating the whole body with radiation. Which leaves people coming down with like cancers.

Right, so you die from the treatment, right?

Yeah, a couple years later, because the radiation was never meant to be used on the whole body. So this is a much better—

How does it feel? How do you feel about taking this miracle that you've been given and, um, you know, introducing it to a whole lot of people who don't have one? I'd like you to contact Marian, the one in the call that we just had just before this.

I hope she's still listening because that's the name I called when I heard her.

Maybe the person off the— somebody on there, they might have her phone number. They might be able to give you her phone number. Can that be done?

Because she certainly treats people from all over the world.

Summer, can that be done?

The only way is if Marian is able to call back, then our call screener will be able to pick Well, like I said, it's being done at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago.

She could go on the website and find out the information. Dr. Byrd is the doctor who's leading the—

Have you contacted any of the popular magazines, like People Magazine and so on, to get your story out there?

Oh, no. He's been written up, and I've seen him on the local TV stations. But I think more needs to be gotten out about it. Absolutely.

It's always about serving. It's always, Cindy, it's about whenever anything like this comes to you, it's like I call it moving into God consciousness. I just wrote a whole chapter about this in my new book yesterday called Excuses Be Gone, and it's the 17th chapter, and it's really about living, you know, like Einstein's famous observation when he said, you know, I I don't really give it— I don't care so much about the details of quantum physics. I just want to learn to think how God thinks. And the way God thinks is in this process of always reaching out, always serving, always offering. And if you can get yourself into that kind of a consciousness and see your story as a galvanizing moment in helping us to, you know, make these kinds of shifts— and I think even getting politically active, I think, would be really important. Really important for you. Really, we need to overcome some really stale, outdated, crazy kind of thinking that we have about, uh, you know, what stem cells are. I mean, stem cells are provided by God.

Exactly. It's not like these are things you go—

and God has given these scientists the knowledge to create, to come up with this theory.

Absolutely.

And who invented the This marvelous machine that can fully, you know, all of it, the whole thing.

Absolutely, everything.

With a miracle all the way down the line and all God-given.

Keep track of how much impact you make, and this is a good start. Even being now, you're talking to several hundred thousand people right now all over the world and creating a new kind of consciousness.

Of all the times I tried to get through, that's probably the reason I got through today.

Absolutely, it is. That is the reason you got— where do you live? You live in Chicago?

Yeah, yeah, Chicago.

I'm speaking in Detroit. I think it's October the 12th, if I'm not mistaken, which is right down the road from you, from Novi. Why don't you come there? You can be my guest. I'll have 2 passes sent for you if you want to come. So all you got to do is get there and find out where to stay, but you can come in.

Yeah, that's like a 20-hour bus ride from Chicago. You're up and you're down.

Yeah, maybe I can even have you speak for a few minutes to the audience there. We can use it to get started. So I'll keep this in mind. It's right after, can you believe it, I'm going to celebrate my 50th high school reunion.

Good for you.

50. I think I'm going to be the only one there.

I doubt it.

But anyway, that's on the 11th of October from 1958 when I graduated. So the next day I'm leaving. 1958?

Yeah.

Oh my God, I got shoes older than you. I'll see you in Detroit that day. And they'll, uh, just hang on there and they'll, they'll send you tickets.

Thank you very much.

That's right, stay on the line, Cindy. We'll get your information so we can get you those passes.

Did I go long? Can we, can we take another call?

Yes, we certainly can. We're switching gears now. We're going to Terry. She's calling from Long Beach, California with a different kind of question. Terry, welcome to your program today, our program today, all of us. You're listening to Dr. Wayne Dyer.

Hi, Dr. Dyer.

Hi, Terry, how are you?

Good, I'm just really shocked, shocked to be talking to you.

Oh, really? Well, yeah, I'm sitting here all alone in a room. I'm happy to have anyone to talk to.

Oh, good.

Well, I'm concerned. I lost my job this month.

Congratulations.

I guess that's good.

Oh, really?

It is? Yeah.

Oh, okay.

How long did you have it?

I had, I had the job for 4 years, but I had that position for about 6 months.

But my concern was also that the job before that I lost as well.

I was fired.

And then this brings up everything in my life like that.

I never got married, never had a family.

Yeah.

All this stuff is coming to me.

So I'm really trying to work on getting spiritual and reading things and seeing how I can make the changes in my life that I think I need to make.

Yeah. You know what, what is your first name?

Terry.

Terry. Terry, um, what, you know, just out of the few moments that I've had to speak to you, What comes up for me is that so many people evaluate their spirituality and their essence and what they're here for and their purpose and, you know, their whole being on the basis of how they perform, on the basis of what they do.

Uh-huh.

Which is just what the ego teaches us all the time, you know. I mean, we, we come from a place where we don't have to do anything, we don't have to prove anything. There's oneness. We're connected. We're connected to everything. We're in perfect harmony with God, with Spirit. All things are as they should be. And then we show up and we take on this ego and we edge God out of our lives. And not so much in a religious context, but we begin to believe that who we are, what we do, and how others think of us, and what we accumulate, and so on, that becomes our way of identifying our essence, our beingness. And then you're going to return to that place where you don't have to do anything, you don't have to prove anything, and you don't have to have any partners, and you don't have to accomplish anything, and you don't get to own anything. You know, you came here with nothing, with no-thingness, you leave with nothing.

Uh-huh.

And this little parenthesis in eternity, this tiny little space called from your birth to your death, you take on what we call a false self, and you start to identify who you are on the basis of all of these false kinds of ways of measuring measuring ourselves. If you could get past that, if you could just look in the mirror, as my friend and mentor and teacher and publisher Louise Hay always says, just look in the mirror and, uh, and say, I love you, you know.

Yeah.

And you don't have to do anything. Just like, and constantly reminding yourself, keep looking at yourself and saying these words to you, I love you, I love you, you're worthy, you don't have to prove it, you are a piece of God. If you could get that, if you could get that consciousness, I would recommend you read Louise's book if you haven't read it. It's called You Can Heal Your Life.

I did, I read that book.

Did you? Yeah, that's so much fun.

That's what's getting me started.

Is it? Yeah.

That's the good thing about getting fired, is getting me to look at this stuff.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, the firing is just like, I mean, it's like your life is a play. It's all it is. I mean, it's just a great big play and it's got a lot of acts in it. And so there's certain things that you have to do a certain amount of time. People come into it for a certain amount of time and then they leave. Some people are there for the whole play. Some people come in in the third act. Some people in the middle of the second, they leave, then they come back later in the third act. You know, it's like, it's just a play. And, you know, don't, first of all, two things. Don't take your life so seriously and don't believe everything that you think. I think I'm going to write a book with that title down the road.

I like that.

Yeah, don't believe everything that you think because almost all the stuff that you think, then you start to analyze it and figure it out and nobody even cares.

Yeah.

You know, you, Terry, are a beautiful soul. You are perfect. There's nothing in this world wrong with you. Getting fired or not fired, it's totally completely irrelevant. It means nothing. It's just another experience for you to go through. You are loved. You are perfect. And, you know, who knows, you may have Divine soul showing up in your life, and that's going to take you on a wonderful merry-go-round. Enjoy every moment, sweetheart.

We've got to go.

Love you.

Thank you.

Dr. Dyer, we have a caller on line 3 named Helena, who I suspect has a rather esoteric question for us. Helena, prove me right.

You're live on the air.

Ooh, college words here today.

Dr. Wayne Dyer.

Esoteric.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Hi.

Hi, Helena.

Hi there.

What is your esoteric question?

Well, first of all, the woman who just called, I was thinking she might be really interested in the work of Byron Katie, because when I have recently gone through some difficult times, that was a really good way to switch around how I was looking at it.

Mm-hmm.

And now, I'm really happy with being alone. I'm really happy with my work and my home, and there are still things I want to do. I have desires and passions, and I want to contribute and do fun and exciting things. Those are things I want to manifest in my life.

Mm-hmm.

I have these ideas about what that means.

I have these pictures.

Like, I want a partnership, I want to have children, I want to open a tea house. I have these pictures of things that I would like to have in my life. And at the same time, I feel at peace with where I'm at.

Good for you. That's very good. And of course, the work of Byron Katie. Byron Katie and I, we have actually a CD, a 4-CD set. I did a CD set through Hay House. Yeah, wonderful, wonderful. Yeah, and she's, she's one of my all-time favorite people in the world. In fact, this new book that I'm just finishing, it's called Excuses Be Gone. Uh, I've got one chapter left, and, and the impetus for it was really the work that I learned from, from Byron Katie that she did with me in helping me to overcome something in Wyoming a couple of years ago when she started looking I created what I call an Excuses Be Gone paradigm. One of the first questions you begin to ask yourself is, are the thoughts that I'm thinking true? It's one of the most interesting questions you can come up with to ask yourself about any thought that you're having that might be depressing, might be hurting you.

I'm so sad because I'm so alone and it's so hard. Then all of a sudden it's like, well, what if it could be different? What if I'm happy that I'm alone? You can twist it around in all kinds of ways.

Exactly. Can you really 100% be certain that the thought that you're thinking is true? And if the thought isn't necessarily true, then you ask yourself, well, what's the reverse of that thought? And the reverse of that thought is that it's not going to be difficult. Instead of that it's going to be difficult, it's not. So now you have a choice. You can make a choice to think a thought that is either— neither one of them can be certain is 100% true, but why not pick the one that's going to work for you rather than the one that It works against you. And she's a brilliant, brilliant woman, and I love her very much.

How do I pursue my intention when I know that everything is just fine the way it is?

Not how, I don't know whether it's how, but there's like, I know that I want to contribute, and I contribute today. And I— it's like, here's an— this is when you talk about how you were a professor and you had tenureship and—

Right.

Why are you going off? It's like, yes, you could have stayed there and contributed and been a wonderful professor, and you didn't have to take off in your car and go across the country. So it's like, how do I—

and it's—

and there are these fears. It's like, well, if I can contribute in my office, why do I need to go and open my own tea house?

Well, you make a very good point.

I think it's, you know, everybody listening, I always tell people you don't attract into your life what you want. The problem with what you want is that you're coming from lack. You're coming from shortage. You're coming from a belief system that says, I don't have enough and I'm not content. Everything I teach, everything about the Tao says to be content. So you don't attract what you want. You attract what you are. And that's a really important lesson to have, is that you ask yourself, who am I? What kind of a human being am I? Am I living in God consciousness? Am I living in a place in which instead of asking for something for me, I'm beginning to say, how may I serve? You know, and then I'm listening. And whatever it— and as you begin to get to this place where your focus is not on yourself and getting for yourself because you don't need anything more—

Right.

One of my favorite lines from Byron came She said, you know, the idea of insanity really means to believe that you need what you don't have. That's insanity because you already have proven that you don't need it. So now you start believing that you do need it even though you're fine without it and you're making it without it. And you start to put yourself through all of these shortage kind of conflicts that we have in our lives. And it's just remembering— I mean, for me, in writing Excuses Be Gone, it's really been about who am I? I'm thinking about myself, Wayne Dyer. Who am I as a human being, and what do I— what kind of a person do I want to be? I want to live what I call— what Lao Tzu calls the virtues. I want to have reverence for all of life. I want to have natural sincerity. I want to be gentle in my life, and I want to be in service and supportive to others. That's what Lao Tzu called the virtues, the cardinal virtues. If you live those, if you are that, rather than seeking something else, Then you begin to see the universe responds back to you in the same way. It says to you what you're saying to it. How may I serve? And it says back to you, well, how may I serve you? And you say, well, how may I help? And it says back, well, how may I help you? And how may I be of assistance? And it says back, how may I be of assistance to you? And that's the way it works. You become, you become those virtues. You live from that place. And then happiness is not something that is given to you. In Gifts from Icas, as I wrote many, many years ago, there is no way to happiness, said Icas. Happiness is the way. That's— it's what you bring to everything in your life. It's nothing you'll ever get from anything else. Thanks for your beautiful call. God bless you.

Thanks a lot.

Take care.

All right, Dr. Dyer, let's go to Sharon now. She's calling on line 4 from Albany, New York. Sharon, welcome to the program. You're speaking with Dr. Wayne Dyer.

Hi, I am great.

How are you?

I'm doing good. And, um, it's real interesting listening to the calls and, and, um, listening to what you say. I guess I'm going to present this differently than I did to the producer.

Okay, that's okay.

You talked about Lao Tzu. Is that how you say it?

Lao Tzu.

Lao Tzu.

Okay, so how may I serve? And, and then the universe responds, how How may I serve you?

Right.

Well, that's where I want to live my life from, and I'm not living my life from that. And I'm in a situation— I love the ocean. I spent about a third of my adult life near the ocean in Oahu and San Diego. Then I came back east to be with an aging parent. We had great quality time, no regrets on that. In preparing for retirement, I said, okay, I got to get back to the ocean. And I bought an oceanfront condo in Mexico. On my list was always, you know, I want to live in a place where I can hear and see the ocean. And so I met that goal, and, you know, I was elated for a while. And somehow now it's just, you know, I'm at a point where I'm feeling it's a burden, it's a distraction. It's not really what it's all about. And actually, I should have been more specific about what kind of place I wanted by the ocean. So I'm at a point where I think I'm gonna sell that, and I'm thinking, are you crazy? You know, are you crazy to sell that? I mean, that was your long life goal. And how can I be thinking that you need to sell that?

Well, I—

well, I guess—

The answer is no. No, the answer is no. I can tell already. So you don't need it. You could probably— who couldn't use a little more money? But, and if it's something that gives you this great sense of fulfillment— see, a desire like you're speaking about isn't just— it's not a selfish desire at all to have a place by the ocean. You're speaking about your soul here. You know, you're speaking about, uh, something that is, uh, you know, that calling to the ocean, very much like people who have a calling to the mountains, but particularly when That's your first 9 months, you were in the ocean. I mean, you, you were living in salt water, you know, and it's like, and that's your calling back to your spirit. And, you know, to ignore that— I know what you're talking about because I'm in the ocean every single day of my life. And yesterday was the first day this year— this is September the 15th— that's the first day this year that I wasn't able to be in the ocean, even though I got into a pool up in the mountains here in Maui. But I know what you're talking about, to be in the ocean, to be on the ocean, to be next to the ocean, to hear the ocean, to feel the heartbeat of the ocean, to feel—

Absolutely.

You're talking about— read the Tao. I mean, that is really what it's all about. It doesn't have to be that place in Mexico on that particular setting and so on, but don't treat that as some small thing. That sounds like it's something that you've been feeling deep inside of you, in your guts, that it almost defines you. Is that true or am I being too dramatic?

That is absolutely true.

Well then, don't ignore that, darling. Don't ignore that. That's your soul speaking to you. That's probably— I couldn't even begin to imagine writing one of my books or doing any— even the movie. I just spent 3 and a half weeks down in California doing a new movie, by the way, which is opening in January. In fact, I think they're selling tickets to the premiere of that movie. It's called From Ambition to Meaning. Lots and lots of people in it and so on, but the filming took place on the ocean. When I write, I'm on the ocean. When I create, when I meditate, I'm on the ocean. I don't even know how to create without having the ocean with me and next to me. And when the whales come and when I'm under that water and I'm listening to them communicating with each other, I really feel— I'm getting teary here right now talking about it. It's that important and that powerful to me. Don't demean that by thinking it's just something that you're going to sell and get a few dollars for, or, you know, coins for. Be on that ocean. Let it— because you're going to do something very profound and very great in the company of that magnificent ocean. You know, that ocean was created by— it rained on this planet. It rained on this planet. I just saw a thing on the origin of the Earth. It rained on this planet for 1 billion years. Now that's it. We can't You can't even comprehend how long that is and how much time that is. A billion years it rained in order to form those magnificent oceans and all of the creatures that are in it and so on. A billion years of rain, and you are feeling those raindrops in your heart. Don't you ignore those. Don't demean them.

So, 2 things. First of all, it's amazing what we create in our lives. So what I've created since I bought that is I have a wonderful partner and relationship in Tucson, which is the desert. And so anyway, I bought a place with him in the desert, which is far cry from the ocean, although it's beautiful. So the second thing is, you know, financially I could probably work this out.

I—

but I think I have some scarcity thoughts about that.

Yeah, you do. And I would let go of those. I would let go. You are fine, all of you, everybody out there listening. So many of the calls— and I've been doing this show for almost 4 years now— so many of the calls are about this scarcity consciousness. You don't need anything. You know, the Tao teaches, let yourself be lived by it. You're not doing anything, you know, you're being done. Let yourself be done in the perfect way that you were supposed to be done, in the perfect way that you signed up for. Before you ever showed up in this material form, when you were in non-being, you know, go back to that place. That's why meditation is so important. Get quiet, go within, find that quiet space, and let yourself be lived by it. I loved your call, and I love you. Thank you so much.

Thank you.

God bless you.

Thanks for the call, Sharon. We start with the ocean and we end with the ocean this hour.

Yes, that's right.

Well, thanks, Dr. Dyer. We'll see you and talk with you again. Next week.

You got it.

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I'm here.

As always.

Yeah, it is.

It's a beautiful morning.

I just had a nice massage. I'm getting ready to go in the ocean.